I'd like to know if anyone has made an effort to install all their apps on the SD card and not on the universal.
ive installed tomtom 5.1 onto the SD card with my maps on, thought it would keep it all tidy and together,
cant really see any issues in installing all apps onto sd, maybe a bit slower??? not sure
I have (on my 2 GB SD) Listpro, eWallet, PhatPad, RDCalc,
Resco FileExplorer, Photoviewer, Radio and Audio recorder, MathTablet and more. They seem to work ok (Omega Journal Bar somehow prevents to install other apps so I removed that
I have (on my 2 GB SD) Listpro, eWallet, PhatPad, RDCalc,
Resco FileExplorer, Photoviewer, Radio and Audio recorder, MathTablet and more. They seem to work ok (Omega Journal Bar somehow prevents to install other apps so I removed that
I read that apllications, which have today screen plugins, should not be installed in a sd card.
Is this (still) true?
What about the folder "my documents", did anyboy sitched it totaly to an sd card?
What about ActiveSync? Can it sync whith the md-folder on an sd?
I read that apllications, which have today screen plugins, should not be installed in a sd card.
Is this (still) true?
What about the folder "my documents", did anyboy sitched it totaly to an sd card?
What about ActiveSync? Can it sync whith the md-folder on an sd?
MBastian said:
I read that apllications, which have today screen plugins, should not be installed in a sd card.
Is this (still) true?
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That's something I did not consider. I currently have resco and ms voice command loaded to the universal built in memory.
really would like to put My Documents on the SD.
Is that possible, without too many problems?
Huib
herpi said:
really would like to put My Documents on the SD.
Is that possible, without too many problems?
Huib
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no problems whatsoever
You shouldn't have any trouble installing most apps to the memory card. I would like to add that in addition to not installing apps with today plugins to the memory card, you should also not install apps that load automatically at startup to the memory card.
I tried installing Voice Command to the memory card once, and every time I reset the device, I would get errors when the device started as the memory card had not initialized yet.
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Hi all,
i have a fresh JasJar and i need to install the .Net Compact Framework 2.0 but when i try to install (main memory) it gives me an unknow error number 4.
I have a lot of free space in my device, approx 30 Mb, so where is the problem ?
I need the .Net Compact Framework to run IBE Mail.
Bye
nicoska
Me too. I've tried closing applications, but without luck
RE
Using ActiveSync may give problem. I installed using the cab file method
You can get the cab file ffrom here (near to the bottom)
http://www.gopherking.com/download/
If you cannot install try install WiFiFoFum with the CF installer Package. After that remove WiFiFoFum (if not needed) and you'll have the CF left behind
http://www.aspecto-software.com/xoops/modules/wfdownloads/newlist.php
Why install it in the main memory? I installed it to my SD Card and it went without any problems.
cktlcmd said:
Why install it in the main memory? I installed it to my SD Card and it went without any problems.
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Hi,
did you installed by .cab file or trough ActiveSync ?
thanks
Nico
nicoska said:
cktlcmd said:
Why install it in the main memory? I installed it to my SD Card and it went without any problems.
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Hi,
did you installed by .cab file or trough ActiveSync ?
thanks
Nico
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I used the .exe file through active sync. I had reformatted my computer, I had performed hard resets numerous times on my EXEC and Net Framework 2 always installs without any problem to my SD Card and works very well.
cktlcmd said:
Why install it in the main memory? I installed it to my SD Card and it went without any problems.
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Are you sure it's actually on the SD card?
I tried telling it to install to SD-card three times (uninstalled between each attempt) and practically nothing went onto the SD card - it just created an empty folder there. :roll: Took out over 5-MegaByte of main memory though and didn't recover all of that when it was removed! :evil:
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cktlcmd said:
Why install it in the main memory? I installed it to my SD Card and it went without any problems.
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Are you sure it's actually on the SD card?
I tried telling it to install to SD-card three times (uninstalled between each attempt) and practically nothing went onto the SD card - it just created an empty folder there. :roll: Took out over 5-MegaByte of main memory though and didn't recover all of that when it was removed! :evil:
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YES, I explored my SD Card and it has a folder named NetFrame2 or something like that under Windows>Programs
I did not loose any internal memory. As of now after a soft reset, I have about 32MB of internal memory with 31 different applications installed. 26 applications installed to my SD Card and 5 system applications installed on my internal memory. No freezes, no delays, no missed calls, no loss of system preferences, switching from landscape to portrait or vice versa takes 1 second, so I am pleased with my settings.
YES, I explored my SD Card and it has a folder named NetFrame2 or something like that under Windows>Programs
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So did mine, but the folder was empty :?
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So did mine, but the folder was empty :?
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I didn't actually clicked on the folder, I'll have to check that the next time I sync. I just assumed it was installed there.
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So did mine, but the folder was empty :?
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I didn't actually clicked on the folder, I'll have to check that the next time I sync. I just assumed it was installed there.
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I hope you're lucky and it worked for you!
Might be worth checking the \Windows folder, however, as that's where I found all the .Net v.2 stuff dumped. The .Net v.1.x stuff is in ROM, so I'm hoping that a future ROM update will have v.2 in ROM.
Pants - just noticed that CF2 folder on SD card is empty!
Any solution to this?
Cheers,
Steve
(Am using Opera - apologies for double spaces)
I've looked into this a bit further, and according to the guys at Microsoft http://blogs.msdn.com/netcfteam/default.aspx - the Framework will always take up storage space, and it wouldn't work if it were only installed on the SD card.
Let's hope that a future ROM release will include it.
Cheers,
Steve.
Here is what I noticed on mine. I just performed a hard reset. I started out with 31MB internal memory. I opted to store NetFramework to my SD Card which is around 5MB in size. So if what you guys claim that NetFrameWork does not install to the card is true, it should eat up the 31MB internal memory right? But I still end up with 31MB internal memory after the install. I did check my SD Card and found the folder there which is empty if I clicked on it. But, my SD Card has less memory than I started with, close to 5MB. So my conclusion is: It installs to the SD Card but maybe active sync does not allow us to see the actual file and size, so it appears the folder is empty.
According to what Microsoft say:
Installing NETCF V2 to storage card
While it is technically possible to redirect installation of NETCF onto storage card via standard Active Sync/WCELOD capabilities, it won’t save precious RAM on device. NETCF files have to be in \Windows folder in order for NETCF to function properly.
If NETCF is installed to storage card, NETCF files will be initially deployed to it. However, at some point they would moved to \Windows folder taking out exactly the same space as normal installation would.
In some cases attempt to use storage card would lead to installation failure due to some subtle storage card issues. Thus it’s not recommended to install NETCF V2 to storage card or embedded storage and there are no benefits of doing so.
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So try installing WifiFoFum (or another .Net CF2 app) and see how your memory availability alters.
Cheers,
Steve.
I also use WiFIFoFum and stored it to my card. It works great. After use of WiFiFoFum, my Internal Memory goes down to about 27MB, I already expected that. Closing all applications via settings puts my internal memory to about 29MB, also expected that as Windows Mobile 5 leaves some parts of the application open for faster reference the next time you open it up. After performing a soft reset my Internal Memory goes back to 31MB. So this still does not change my conclusion that NetFrameWork 2 was installed to my SD Card.
I had a problem installing .NET 2.0 and I found that if I rename/remove previous attempted installs (eg, the dir and files), my 2nd attempt is usually successful.
This goes for most any program that doesn't install properly. I've noticed that this usually happens to me after an upgrade of the same app.
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I also use WiFIFoFum and stored it to my card. It works great. After use of WiFiFoFum, my Internal Memory goes down to about 27MB, I already expected that. Closing all applications via settings puts my internal memory to about 29MB, also expected that as Windows Mobile 5 leaves some parts of the application open for faster reference the next time you open it up. After performing a soft reset my Internal Memory goes back to 31MB. So this still does not change my conclusion that NetFrameWork 2 was installed to my SD Card.
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Are you talking about "Program" memory? I'm talking about "Storage" memory - I don't think that's affected when you open/close applications or perform soft resets...
Cheers,
Steve.
StevePritchard said:
Are you talking about "Program" memory? I'm talking about "Storage" memory - I don't think that's affected when you open/close applications or perform soft resets...
Cheers,
Steve.
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Ohhhhhhh! My mistake.
Cheers mate!
FOSA said:
Using ActiveSync may give problem. I installed using the cab file method
You can get the cab file ffrom here (near to the bottom)
http://www.gopherking.com/download/
If you cannot install try install WiFiFoFum with the CF installer Package. After that remove WiFiFoFum (if not needed) and you'll have the CF left behind
http://www.aspecto-software.com/xoops/modules/wfdownloads/newlist.php
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Great that worked for me!! Many thanks!!
J
Is there any way I can make Windows detect or recognize programs on the storage card after a rom update? without having to reinstall them again..?
thanks!
of course you cant, you have to install them once again.
depends, if it will run from the storage card simply make new shortcuts, depends how many u have to do and how easy to hand the cab files are i guess
i usually keep all my cab files in a "cabs" folder on my sd card incase i need to redo my phone if i'm away from my pc. it helps if i'm at work and it starts acting up.
It also might not be a bad idea to keep a backup of your wizard on the sd card with just the programs (and if you havean exchange server) already installed on it, that way a quick, fresh start doesn't involve a lot of work.
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Is there any way I can make Windows detect or recognize programs on the storage card after a rom update? without having to reinstall them again..?
thanks!
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Any program on the storage card will run after the ROM update as long as it is not one that needs to write registry changes or dll's to the registry itself.
I have approximately 50 apps installed to my storage card. After doing a ROM flash/upgrade, I only have to reinstall around 10 of them. You'll just need to try launching each one from the card to see if it will work without reinstalling to find out which ones will work and which ones won't.
well i wanted to know because i just recently upgraded to nbd 7.0 and some programs i want isnt detecting in htc home plugin...
I have installed HTC Kaizer Home Plugin, HTC X-Button, HTC Audio Manager, JUVS CommMgr6 button, reTouched Dialer, etc.
These applications I installed in the Storage Card.
I notice when i start my HTC Softbank X01HT, it become slower... until I have run most of the application, then only the speed become more stable.
So, I wondering I should install these applications into Main Memory or Storage Card? Will it be more stable if I install into Main Memory?
i just think that every app you installing tooks a small part of your hermes memory.... so as many startup application you have as you hermes will slow down
understand that.
what i worried is if i install those applications into storage card, it will load slower than if i install into the main memory.
will this happen?
wailoon said:
understand that.
what i worried is if i install those applications into storage card, it will load slower than if i install into the main memory.
will this happen?
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No, not really - except you turn off or soft reset your device entirely, then it takes a while until your pda read out all contens on SD card - other than that they load as fast as installing in the phone. I always install my apps on SD, except for system application, never had any problems.
It's my understanding that you should install programs that run on startup, like today plugins, into main memory.
This is so that if the programs are called to run before the storage card is initialized they are available.
I believe it was MikeChannon that said this...
intrglctcrevfnk said:
It's my understanding that you should install programs that run on startup, like today plugins, into main memory.
This is so that if the programs are called to run before the storage card is initialized they are available.
I believe it was MikeChannon that said this...
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Yeah, might be a good advice even though I never install in phome memory as long as I can avoid it. But you shouldn't take me as good example anyway (I never had issues with installing everything on SD card but I might have been only lucky up to now!)
How about this solution?:
Try to install your application on SD card first! If they do not run properly after starting up your phone then just uninstall them and reinstall them in your phone memory ...
The only 3 programs I installed in phone memory are:
SPB MOBILE SHELL (It won't install on SD)
RESCO EXPLORER 2007 (to be able to use Explorer, REGISTRY PLUGIN and FTP even when I switch SD cards or card fails)
Microsoft Reader (because of activation)
I turned on my Hermes this morning and it started giving me a lot of errors on the today screen. They were errors regarding programs that were installed on the storage card and the device couldn't display everything (such as HTC Home, etc.) and locked-up. After a few soft-resets, still the same. I took out the card and put it in a card reader, but it seems that almost everything is gone from there and what's left, both files and folders, has weird names (»╣SöôdεÑ.z╕ë , ╔╞DGV)0.╡En , φE}░wx÷,.Γö6 , £#╚Ç3.3c, etc.). Also, the contents of the storage card show up as having 33.8 GB!!! How come?
What's to be done to recover my files?
I could hard-reset the device, but the data on the storage card is still gone! I don't care about the programs on it (I can reinstall those) but My Documents and other files that I had on it are important!!!
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What's to be done to recover my files?
I could hard-reset the device, but the data on the storage card is still gone!
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Try an application like memmaid or stk tools (or perhaps other people have better ideas/applications) to repair the content. Don't format the card yet!
Good luck
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Try an application like memmaid or stk tools (or perhaps other people have better ideas/applications) to repair the content. Don't format the card yet!
Good luck
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But there's nothing I can do with the device, since it locks-up, it doesn't synchronize with the PC... I actually had MemMaid installed, but the device does not respond. Also, MemMaid was installed on the storage card.
After hard-reset, device working, but still have the same problem with the storage card data (corrupted, lost?).
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After hard-reset, device working, but still have the same problem with the storage card data (corrupted, lost?).
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So install a 'repair utility' on the device and see what you recover on the SD card.
btw, I NEVER install an application on the SD card
Optimistisch_nl said:
So install a 'repair utility' on the device and see what you recover on the SD card.
btw, I NEVER install an application on the SD card
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I have MemMaid installed on device, now. What's next? There's no data recovery tool in it (is there?).
I always had lots of programs installed on the storage card and had absolutely no problems (until now). I usually do that because the device memory fills-up tooooo fast. I had my Hermes for about 1 1/2 years with no problems of any kind.
Hi first post...new phone.....great product, I love it......to get to the point, I have down loaded a couple of simple apps from the in-house market place, the second one "i spy wifi" wouldnt complete because "quote" ...reqs newer version microsoftR.net compact framework, this wouldnt download because I dont have enough free space, even though there is a 4 gb micro card with loads of room.........how do i get things onto the card storage?.......can I put a 16gb card in place of the 4 ?
cheers
Yes you can use 16gb card, normally when you install an app, it give you the option to install on device memory or Storage Card. I install everything on the the Storage Card and I've got a rude amount of apps installed .
Hi, do watch the cache in the main storage - this can fill up.
And, when you install apps from the Market Place it seems these automatically go to main storage and there is no option to install to storage card.
I'm using a 16 gb card with no problems.
thanks for the reply, not noticed an option offered for phone/card storage...will look for it next time....cheers..........
Just to follow on from this can all cabs and apps be downloaded on the card rather than the device? For instance I have cabs for home page transparencies and max manila, text removal on home page etc. Also cab games, official hot fixes, clocks, market place apps as well. And these are ALL on t he device.
Are there certain apps or items that MUST go on the device or can everything go on the card?
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Just to follow on from this can all cabs and apps be downloaded on the card rather than the device? For instance I have cabs for home page transparencies and max manila, text removal on home page etc. Also cab games, official hot fixes, clocks, market place apps as well. And these are ALL on t he device.
Are there certain apps or items that MUST go on the device or can everything go on the card?
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Anyone?
Pretty much everything can go on the card.
but I cannot seem to move anything onto my card, am I missing something ?
Just use file explorer to move the cabs to your storage card. Once you have installed cab's you can do what you want with them, move or delete them. When installing them it will prompt to install on the device or storage card. Choose storage card.
I always install to the storage card but when you install using Market Place it doesn't give you the option it just installs to the device. Does anyone know if this can be changed or if the cab files is stored somewhere so that you can uninstall from device and install on the card??
As far as I know, isn't possible to choose a different location when installing from Marketplace. However, is possible to move the applications from the phone memory to the SD card. To do that you have to use this app. Although there are some applications that you must install in the phone memory.
Many thanks, I will give it a go. I already have SK Tools do you know if that has a similar feature as I've not quite got to grips with everything it can do?