Hi,
I was wondering. Can u only install apps with activesync, or can u also install from the sd card?
I'm new to pocket pcees, and i work with apple computers. Activesync does not run on them.
Also i was wondering were is the file were my contacts are stored, and can i copy this file from the device to my sd card in it?
My parents do own a pc, but it would be cool if i could install and back up things without it.
Tenx guys and gals
You can install from the SD Card. One way is to put the *.CAB file on your card open explorer click the cab file and it will install. I think the path will stay wih the Card though ( Correct me if I'm wrong here someone) so the app will be on the card as aposed to the device.
Ok tenx,
Is it bad if the app is installed on the sd card?
From what has been posted, the install mechanism is completely replaced in WM5. The install routine will always ask where you wish to install apps on the device itself, like happens on Symbian smartphones.
So installing from SD should be no problem at all.
Ok tenx for the info guys!
Oh yea , forgot e bit where it asks !! Thanks
Ok, I am exchanging my phone tommorrrow because.... well I should do it at least once... LOL, no just some issues... but seriously I am using spb backup and I want to know does this program save everthing and then I will be able to load my programs and files onto my computer when I am done and then load my phone with the same programs and what have you...
sorry I am a noob and don't want to screww this up...
christian15213 said:
Ok, I am exchanging my phone tommorrrow because.... well I should do it at least once... LOL, no just some issues... but seriously I am using spb backup and I want to know does this program save everthing and then I will be able to load my programs and files onto my computer when I am done and then load my phone with the same programs and what have you...
sorry I am a noob and don't want to screww this up...
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in spb backup, you can selesct what you want to backup. if you want to backup your entire phone memory and microsd memory you can. you then specify the save location (specify microsd location) and its done after a few minutes.
when you receive your new pdaphone, just double click the cab file in the microsd and the restore process will begin. Just ensure that your new replacement has the same ROM as the one you have backed up from.
I'm a noob myself, but I will swear by this program. I have had to do a few hard resets with my TyTN and have loaded a specific back up day and voila...everything was great again.
I didn't notice that anything was missing. And heck...even if there was something missing, I didin't feel it.
Ok, but the memory on the microsd card? not the whole sd card right... but the stuff on the phone like any files and what have you that will sync correct... lastyly there isn't a cab file it is a WCE file. just making sure because that is what it made...
oh and one more thing... do you use the unpackage tool from the pc or just use the file on the micro device and place it in the new phone...
in spb backup, you can backup your entire phone with all the settings and apps etc as well as all your files on the microsd card.
spb backup should create a .cab file. to restore, you simply click that cab file and the restore process will begin
jasjamming said:
in spb backup, you can backup your entire phone with all the settings and apps etc as well as all your files on the microsd card.
spb backup should create a .cab file. to restore, you simply click that cab file and the restore process will begin
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Maybe I am crazy but I don't think it does the cab thing... and the file it saved is only 15 megs big... I know my sd card has about 800 megs on it...
can't be that small of a back up could it?
nope, something is seriously wrong.
800mb cannot be compressed into 15megs
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nope, something is seriously wrong.
800mb cannot be compressed into 15megs
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lol lmao... I knew that sounded wierd as heck... but, I don't think it backs up the card. I think just the device onto the card. I don't think this backup program would back up a card because you would have to back it up through the pc... that is not what this does.
my version of spb backup backs up all files - phone mem and sdcard, and places the cab file on he sd card.
not sure which version you have, mine is the latest
how could it compress the file of the storage card and place it on there. If I have a gig card and have used 900 megs... what size file would this possibly create to back up the card and the device. 900 megs is a lot. I am thinking minimum I dunno 300 megs. perhaps 600 megs. Where would this posibbly go to. not the storage device. SPB backup?
OH GEEZ/... I appologize... I am MORON... I was using the full backup selection ASSuMING it meant full back up including card. LOL... NOPE.. you have to choose custom... ahhh so silly.
now I have to remove the musica on the card... but really right now i don't need to deal with the card huh...
also... do you use WMP sync with WMP 11 on the pc... I need to reset my sync... I will post to my other thread so you can see what I mean... it will be at the top.
I have never successfully restored a phone with any of the backup programs availible.
They always miss something (like owner configuration, phone config, e-mail settings and so on..)
i have always done full backup included the sd-card. My reason for doing this was that I were the projectleader for buying and configuring 10 Hermes phones to my Boss's that would look the same, and then be able to restore everything in a flash..
although, this didn't work very good, i went fine as long as I used the backup on my phone, but when trying it on another phone (same model, same rom etc. ) some things would be restored and some weren't
so , just be careful, it might not go well, but then again , it might go very well.
I've never understood the logic behind SPB Backup. From what I understand, it's supposedly possible to back up the entire device, including the SD card, however, from the trial version that I used, it was not possible to save this file on the PC when connected with ActiveSync. So the problem is, if one has a full storage card, and wants to back up their entire device including the storage card, where could the output backup file be stored?
I use SPB Backup and I dont know why I would want to include my storage card in the backup. If I want to back up my storage card I just put it in a cardreader or use sync and copy the entire card over to a directory on my computer. If your device crashes or you just need to do a hard reset, programs installed on your storage card will not be effected. If you have a backup that works, all you need to do is restore from that file. Any program that was installed on your storage card will work fine as ong as you still have the card in your device.
Worked flawlesly... Thanks so much... but I think the card back up is just smarter to just put the whole card on the computer then take it back off...
christian15213 said:
Worked flawlesly... Thanks so much... but I think the card back up is just smarter to just put the whole card on the computer then take it back off...
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glad to see you got it working
brettatk said:
I use SPB Backup and I dont know why I would want to include my storage card in the backup. If I want to back up my storage card I just put it in a cardreader or use sync and copy the entire card over to a directory on my computer. If your device crashes or you just need to do a hard reset, programs installed on your storage card will not be effected. If you have a backup that works, all you need to do is restore from that file. Any program that was installed on your storage card will work fine as ong as you still have the card in your device.
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This is true, but for the same reason, SPB is not a complete backup solution. Do you backup your storage card every time you back up your device internal memory? I have many files that I store on my storage card that are working files - that is, they change in content frequently. Included is an 80Mb SQL Mobile replicated database file. I have actually had a program corrupt my SD card at one point - such that I had to restore it (I did have a manual backup of this, but it was out of date).
At the moment, I still do SD card backups manually anyway, and just use Activesync for incremental backups every time I connect, because it's basically the same as using SPB, and saves having to use a 3rd part program to swap and copy files.
When restoring from Activesync, all I need to do is a soft reset, do a forced refresh of PIM data (contacts, tasks, appointments) from the PC, and everything else is fine. The only thing I find necessary is, after a hard reset, to soft-reset my device on the first 'boot' before the 3 second auto-installation. I don't use a cooked ROM because the programs I like to have on my PPC change all of the time.
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Just to clarify for me as I am a noob to WM5 and HTC.
If I use SPB to backup EVERYTHING except my SD card (which I can manually backup whenever and often using a card reader and PC), I will have a single CAB file with all settings.
So if I do a Hard Reset and lose everything, then before the 3-sec auto installs from the service provider I do a Soft reset to stop those. Then I run the backup CAB file and supposedly everything will be back to the way it was...meaning all registry hacks, email accounts setup, user info, today screens, ringtones, and other installs like previously installed jars and other cabs I had before.
Is this an acurate description of the SPB program?
hi there.
Ive a 2 gig sd card and loads of stuff stored all over the place. if i download Windows Mobile 6, whats the best way to migrate everything? will the unit upgrade link win2k does to XP ?
Mark
No. Rom upgrades wipe the device clean. You will lose all files and programs on the device. Files stored on a memory card will still be there but any programs installed to a card may not function after the upgrade.
yup. And usually you need to perform a hard reset before your upgrade process. So, don't forget to backup all your important stuff.
Also, you might not want to restore your files from a wm5 back-up. I tried it and nothing worked correctly. Had to load each program and tweak from scratch so make note of any serial numbers you may have for your programs.
I turned on my Hermes this morning and it started giving me a lot of errors on the today screen. They were errors regarding programs that were installed on the storage card and the device couldn't display everything (such as HTC Home, etc.) and locked-up. After a few soft-resets, still the same. I took out the card and put it in a card reader, but it seems that almost everything is gone from there and what's left, both files and folders, has weird names (»╣SöôdεÑ.z╕ë , ╔╞DGV)0.╡En , φE}░wx÷,.Γö6 , £#╚Ç3.3c, etc.). Also, the contents of the storage card show up as having 33.8 GB!!! How come?
What's to be done to recover my files?
I could hard-reset the device, but the data on the storage card is still gone! I don't care about the programs on it (I can reinstall those) but My Documents and other files that I had on it are important!!!
tibster said:
What's to be done to recover my files?
I could hard-reset the device, but the data on the storage card is still gone!
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Try an application like memmaid or stk tools (or perhaps other people have better ideas/applications) to repair the content. Don't format the card yet!
Good luck
Optimistisch_nl said:
Try an application like memmaid or stk tools (or perhaps other people have better ideas/applications) to repair the content. Don't format the card yet!
Good luck
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But there's nothing I can do with the device, since it locks-up, it doesn't synchronize with the PC... I actually had MemMaid installed, but the device does not respond. Also, MemMaid was installed on the storage card.
After hard-reset, device working, but still have the same problem with the storage card data (corrupted, lost?).
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After hard-reset, device working, but still have the same problem with the storage card data (corrupted, lost?).
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So install a 'repair utility' on the device and see what you recover on the SD card.
btw, I NEVER install an application on the SD card
Optimistisch_nl said:
So install a 'repair utility' on the device and see what you recover on the SD card.
btw, I NEVER install an application on the SD card
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I have MemMaid installed on device, now. What's next? There's no data recovery tool in it (is there?).
I always had lots of programs installed on the storage card and had absolutely no problems (until now). I usually do that because the device memory fills-up tooooo fast. I had my Hermes for about 1 1/2 years with no problems of any kind.
Hi there,
On my old HTC Diamond I installed everything to phone memory and so when I flashed it I just reinstalled all my apps. However, this time I have installed a large amount of them to the storage card. I don't remember my Diamond's storage card being flashed - so thats not the issue (I will probably remove the card before doing it anyway) - but my question is will my phone still see the installed apps on the memory card and put them in the start menu etc? Or will I be better off just uninstalling everything and re-doing it from scratch?
Also, is the new HTC Rom available in the UK yet?
bump?
surely someone can tell me
ftr2k8 said:
Hi there,
On my old HTC Diamond I installed everything to phone memory and so when I flashed it I just reinstalled all my apps. However, this time I have installed a large amount of them to the storage card. I don't remember my Diamond's storage card being flashed - so thats not the issue (I will probably remove the card before doing it anyway) - but my question is will my phone still see the installed apps on the memory card and put them in the start menu etc? Or will I be better off just uninstalling everything and re-doing it from scratch?
Also, is the new HTC Rom available in the UK yet?
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Check your HTC site in the UK to answer your own question.
Perhaps you should read more about how a flash works before you try with your HD2. Think of it this way: You have two hard disks in your computer, C and D. With Windows XP on C you installed all your programs on D. Then you decided to install Windows 7 on drive C, which copied over your XP. Do you think that Windows 7 will run the programs in D? The answer is obviously no.
The situation is similar when you flash a new ROM. With a file manager you could see the programs on your storage card, but that is all. You would have to reinstall all the programs for them to work.
Take care and understand everything you really need to know before you do decide to flash.
rlydiard said:
Take care and understand everything you really need to know before you do decide to flash.
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That's why I was asking
Thanks for the info.