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request: email check

Hi,
Since I use the hotmail account on my wizard I would like to have a
program that automatically checks my email every, say 30 minutes.
I was wondering if someone could create (or help me creating) a program
which does the following:
loop every 30 minutes
{
launch \Windows\tmail.exe
delay(10sec)
press Right soft-key // open "Menu"
delay (5sec)
press 'z' // on the Dutch wizard this means "Send/receive"
delay (10sec)
close program // I can see on my today screen if I received any new emails
}

Well, actually, periodic mail check has always been in Messaging. Read the Mailer Bible ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ) on how it must be configured and what needs to be known about it.

Menneisyys said:
Well, actually, periodic mail check has always been in Messaging. Read the Mailer Bible ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ) on how it must be configured and what needs to be known about it.
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Unfortunately this is not possible for I am using an hotmail account. During the email setup, when you insert an hotmail adress and then press the 'next' button, Pocket MSn is launched automatically. But this is not what I want. I want to use the regular Inbox program to check my mails every x minutes.

Menneisyys said:
Well, actually, periodic mail check has always been in Messaging. Read the Mailer Bible ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=569&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ) on how it must be configured and what needs to be known about it.
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Thanks...but i mean using standard Pocket outlook.....I need it because I use DirectPush

well i have it setup on my home computer with this
http://www.download3k.com/Internet/Email/Download-GetMail.html
i set it up and it pulls the hotmail and then sends it on to your push email, i have my set at 15mins. it is so easy to use!
But you have to have your home computer running all the time.
John

I have never used hotmail but most internet mail providers (gMail, Yahoo, ComCast.. etc) allow you to forward a copy of the mail from your inbox.
You have a few options:
Set-up an account with mail2web and use ActiveSync.
Set-up an account with a service that provides IMAP support (which pocket outlook works well with).
Set-up an account with gMail and enable POP3 Access.
Now have your hotmail account forward a copy of all messages received to the new account.
Finally set-up Pocket Outlook to gather the e-mail from the secondary account.

Have you tried nPop?

you cant forward with hotmail, that is why i put that programme!!! it pulls and pushes to other emil address

Windows live and pop3?

Hello again fellow Touch 3g owners,
So ive come across this article and i was wondering if anyone has tried this. Im not able to try it with the standard email application for the touch 3g. I have been using the windows live application to sync my emails but i dont like it because it only syncs emails i havent read and i think its kinda stupid to have to open another application just to sync ur emails. Would gladly appreciate any input on this.
EDIT:
Ok so ive got it working by following one of the comments of the article. The email program automatically detects settings for these 3 domains: live.com, hotmail.com and msn.com. You do not want this to happen, so what you have to do is enter a fake domain like [email protected] and then enter the settings found in the article. Remember to tick the box for ssl and authentication for both ingoing and outgoing in the advanced settings. when ur done you can change the accountname to ur real email. this worked for me (accessed my emails, havent tried sending yet but i dont think that will be a problem).

just an update
So ive got it working, however its not to my liking. It works great exept for a few things. One is that i cant preview the messages in touchflo, it shows when and from who but not a preview of the content. Second is that mails already read elsewhere it downloads as unread. And last but not least, it takes a long time to sync. So if any of you has found a workaround pleas let me know.

Why don't you just configure all your pop3 in the mail tab. There you can easily and quickly send/receive or sync.

azahidi said:
Why don't you just configure all your pop3 in the mail tab. There you can easily and quickly send/receive or sync.
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I thought the same and configured my Hotmail account thru mail tab screen but, it opens inside the Opera browser which I am not happy..
Is there any way to see email accounts in the Mail tab screen only alike gmail etc ?

sas_sas said:
I thought the same and configured my Hotmail account thru mail tab screen but, it opens inside the Opera browser which I am not happy..
Is there any way to see email accounts in the Mail tab screen only alike gmail etc ?
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I configured my mails (including hotmail) using the Mail Tab. Once configured it gives the icons on the right as to which accounts I am looking at. And when I tap Menu - Send/receive, the individual icons (accounts) shows how many e-mails have come in (still unread) for each account (if any).
Follow this link http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/22/enable-hotmail-pop3-in-all-countries/ for hotmail configuration.
When first configuring, do not put [email protected][U]hotmail.com[/U], put something else (e.g. [email protected][COLOR="Red"]zzxxyy.com[/COLOR]). Configure manually, do not let it search. The rest follow instructions from above link. Once completed, then update - which gives fail. Then Tap Menu-Tools-Options-tap the hotmail email acc - and input all the correct info from there (the actual account login name, password.) Tap send/receive... Wallllla !!!!

azahidi said:
I configured my mails (including hotmail) using the Mail Tab. Once configured it gives the icons on the right as to which accounts I am looking at. And when I tap Menu - Send/receive, the individual icons (accounts) shows how many e-mails have come in (still unread) for each account (if any).
Follow this link http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/22/enable-hotmail-pop3-in-all-countries/ for hotmail configuration.
When first configuring, do not put [email protected][U]hotmail.com[/U], put something else (e.g. [email protected][COLOR="Red"]zzxxyy.com[/COLOR]). Configure manually, do not let it search. The rest follow instructions from above link. Once completed, then update - which gives fail. Then Tap Menu-Tools-Options-tap the hotmail email acc - and input all the correct info from there (the actual account login name, password.) Tap send/receive... Wallllla !!!!
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ths.
but it seems too complicated..

sas_sas said:
ths.
but it seems too complicated..
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Well, it depends on the beholder. I configured it in less than 5 minutes, just once. Well that's the only way now, that I know and would like to share. Others may have a much more simpler, easier and less complicated way. I don't know.

Outlook in WM - sending emails from Outlook Account

Hi Everybody,
I recently got TP2 rhodium. The 1st WM system for me.
I tried to use Outlook in a "natural" way but I found some simple things I can't do.
Explain.
I have 3 accounts in my phone:
- "Outlook", which is synced with my company PC via ActiveSync.
- A "work account", that I use to receive and send emails using my company ISP (i.e. [email protected]) when I am away.
- A "personal account", that I use to receive and send emails using my personal ISP (i.e. [email protected]) when I am away.
Everything works: Outlook sync, work send-receive emails, personal send-receive emails.
The most simple thing I expect I can do is:
1) I sync Outlook via Activesync. So I get an updated copy of my pc inbox/outbox in my TP2. Including emails I didn't read yet.
2) I go away, get in the inbox of my phone outlook account and read emails. There's one I need to reply immediately!
3) I reply to that email, but...
the reply goes into the outgoing box but it remains there. It will be sent the next time I'll sync, but it will be next week.
I didn't find a way to use one of the 2 other accounts to send that email from inside the "outlook account". It's a reply, so I have to write it inside that account.
The most natural thing would be:
- an option in the "from" field allowing me to use one of the two accounts
- send the email
- watch it going in the outbox of my "outlook account", so that it will be synced the next time.
in addition,
if I send an email from my "work account", it will go into its outbox, but I cannot move it to the "outlook account" outbox, so that it can't be synced when I connect to my pc!!
I suppose many people encountered the same problem.
I tried to search, but I couldn't find any.
Anyone can address me to a solution?
I thank you all in advance.

Hi..
Thats what i did in the past.. i sync emails so that i know which ones i need to reply... but found it a hassle at times...
why not try using pop3 directly? Jus save a copy of emails on server.... i pop as and when i need... but only my outlook in laptop downloads emails.. i find it better in sense i have contorl when i use outlook.. but thats jus me and my 2cents..

Hi chuachongchee,
I hope I'll find a straight way for you and for me to do what I mean.
I can't believe it is not possible to do such an elementary thing with an almost 600€ gear and a WM at its 6th release!!! And such a cool design !!
Do outlook mobile developers ever work away from their pc?
I am not good in WM software "handling", but a lot of people is, and I am sure someone has already solved this issue.
Just hope I'll find one...

hi asamax,
Just confirming that I have a similar problem that would be solved if I could change the "From" field in the outgoing message (as with your problem).
I also have done a lot of searching and found nothing yet.
I have found that its possible to write "plugin" apps for
tmail (aka Outlook mail for WM) but found none that allow the change of the "From" field - annoying!

haongusa said:
hi asamax,
Just confirming that I have a similar problem that would be solved if I could change the "From" field in the outgoing message (as with your problem).
I also have done a lot of searching and found nothing yet.
I have found that its possible to write "plugin" apps for
tmail (aka Outlook mail for WM) but found none that allow the change of the "From" field - annoying!
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Don't mind,
I am sure this will be solved.
Such simple change + Such evident miss.
Please skilled-xda-developers write an outlook hacked rev. allowing:
- choose the account in the email "from" field
- copy/move emails between different accounts folders
- some additional options for each accounts would be useful: default c/c and hidden c/c recipients.
the 3rd in the list allowed me to solve this issue in my old Nokia E70 (!!).
I just put a rule for incoming mail in my PC outlook: when I receive a mail in whic i am in hidden c/c AND in the from fields, move it in the sent items folder. But it was not a very clean way... I expect more from my brand new rhodium!!!

HD2US: It won't delete my emails?!

So I notice I have a new email notification, when I check my email in SenseUI, I hit:
Menu > Delete Message
but about 10 or 15mins later, ill get another email notification, it's the same email I just deleted (or so I thought). I've tried this repeatedly and it will still come back. Ill even click the 'Inbox' and see it's gone, only to find out, it came back. The only way it will delete is if I click 'Inbox' instead of 'Menu' and view my email through WinMo, than click the email and hit 'Menu' > 'Delete'.
This is gotta be a bug, how do I go about fixing this? It's really annoying -_-

"Delete" works for me for Exchange account, doesn't work for gmail.

I'm using Gmail, so make sense, but why on earth would it not work for Gmail? This is frustrating.

this just started to happen to me about an hour ago.

I looked through the settings to try to find the keep a copy on the server option but cannot find that for accounts outside of exchange (windows life / outlook) My yahoo and gmail accounts keep pushing emails.
I recreated both accounts and never saw the option to delete the message from the server as well. I have not had time to really look though.

Any update?

Dont use Menu>delete. Just use the soft leftkey DELETE and it wont come back.

have you tried
emails tab - inbox - menu - tools - options - tap the account you are interested in
click send/recieve schedule - bottom of screen click advanced settings and check teh dropdown 'when deleting messages' is set to delete them off the server.

I had this problem with AOL on my HD2 (shush, now. I like AOL mail, dammit!). I found that opening the mail and then deleting it from the menu got rid of the notification, but the mail, itself, would get pushed back every time I got new mail on the server (although without a notification of it being new). It would only truly be deleted when I did so from my PC. It's no biggie as it no longer tells me I have a new message when I don't, but I guess it could be bothersome for folks that get more e-mail than I do.
Note: I don't have this problem with G-mail at all.

Hotmail/MS OfficeLive on Android

Thanks everyone in advance for any help you may give me.
I have just bought an HTC Desire and my company e-mail runs through MS Officelive (i.e. Hotmail/Windows Live for Business).
I have heard previous Android devices syncing with Hotmail (probably through 3rd party apps installed).
Does anyone know of a good email app that enables HTML etc. and syncs with Hotmail/Windows Live which isn't POP3 (which is terrible as it doesn't sync).
Tried Maildroid and it will only work over POP3 again (even though it says it works with Windows Live).
Would be great if there's a push one too!
Don't mind if it's a paid app either to get it working without POP3.
Any help?
Thank you again.

RE: MailDroid
Hi Urp,
MailDroid will work for it over IMAP if you have set the correct settings. Most people have POP3 so it defaults to that, but if you add in your username/pass and click manual setup, you will be able to add in your imap settings.
PM me if you need some help.
-Joe
P.S. I did not even know live supported IMAP

I tried Seven Beta and if kinda works with hotmail but is very buggy at the moment and support is lacking as it's only beta.
It may work better for you so give it a try
Sully

Thanks guys, I appreciate the support. Do you know the IMAP settings for Windows live then? Everywhere I've read said it isn't supported.
Thank you again guys!
Matt (urp)

RE: Windows Live
Right, that is what I thought. MailDroid works over POP3 for hotmail/live/msn etc. and will do a poll of the server. My understanding is that windows live mail means that the desktop client can access other IMAP accounts and not that Hotmail itself has IMAP.
You can get push mail by signing up for other companies (shangmail and maybe seven (not sure how seven does it)) and they will poll and get UIDs and then push to you. Essentially, they are polling and pushing from their application. Personally, I am biased, but I will tell you that I have many happy hotmail/live/msn users.
Are you seeing issues using MailDroid?
edit: Go to windowslivehelp.com and search for IMAP and you will see that it is not supported.

I have my hotmail account synced directly to my desire, i simply told it to set up an account used my hotmail addy and it got the settings from the internet for me.
However in case yours isnt picking them up for some reason I have provided them below for you- Htc Desire on Tmobile Software number 1.15.110.11
incoming settings
protocol =pop
pop server = pop3.live.com
security type =ssl
server port =995
outgoing settings
login required =ticked
username =hotmail addy ie [email protected]
smtp server=smtp.live.com
security type=tls
server port=587
Account name =Hotmail
Your Name =what ever you want it to display
hope that helps you.

The op doesn't want to use pop access he wants imap or push email, where it deletes messages from server and shows read items as already read etc
Sully

Then simply select your live/hotmail account and select the three vertical bars from the widget to take you into the full email app.
then from there you need to press the menu button and select more.
then select settings and under send and receive settings select
Delete mail on server to be on ie ticked.
this will then delete them from your hotmail account as you delete them from your device when you press refresh to resync the account.
This wont mark them as read on the server however, what you can do as a workaround is to select the unread function on the device to read your unread from the device or to switch off the delete from hotmail account setting and delete them all from your device after you have deleted the ones you dont want which will leave the ones you want to keep on the server but remove them from your device. Then when you sign into hotmail you can mark them all read.
isnt perfect but better than nothing.
btw just to add the delete settings can be set up seperately for each account etc etc

haggisuk99 said:
Then simply select your live/hotmail account and select the three vertical bars from the widget to take you into the full email app.
then from there you need to press the menu button and select more.
then select settings and under send and receive settings select
Delete mail on server to be on ie ticked.
this will then delete them from your hotmail account as you delete them from your device when you press refresh to resync the account.
This wont mark them as read on the server however, what you can do as a workaround is to select the unread function on the device to read your unread from the device or to switch off the delete from hotmail account setting and delete them all from your device after you have deleted the ones you dont want which will leave the ones you want to keep on the server but remove them from your device. Then when you sign into hotmail you can mark them all read.
isnt perfect but better than nothing.
btw just to add the delete settings can be set up seperately for each account etc etc
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I am aware of the delete function, I was just giving examples of what imap has over a pop account. If you delete a message from hotmail after your phone has synced then it will remain on the device, I know what you are saying but it just doesn't offer the functionality of imap or push email
Sully

Appreciate that but unless you want to hand over your login details to a third party to handle that we are stuck with the above as there is no imap support with hotmail for paid or free accounts to the best of my knowledge, the only item i know that uses imap in conjunction with live mail is the windows desktop live client however there is no visible settings shown on what ports or settings are used.
Until someone can figure them out we are stuck with the above.

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Correct, or until Microsoft decides to catch up and implement IMAP

Thank you so so much guys, you've been so helpful. One reason I need IMAP or push is because I quite often move mail between folders. I need something like mboxmail on iPhone but on a far superior OS!
The nearest looks like seven but it isn't perfect by any means.
Thank you again guys, you've been so helpful.
P.s. noticed an engadget post saying HTC desire had overnight upgraded its Google maps to include turn by turn and its fantastic!!!!