Probs with BBC website on universal... - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Not sure if anyone else has noticed this, but if I try to go to news.bbc.co.uk in PocketIE I get the mobile version of the site, despite having altered the registry so to appear as IE5.5.... no other sites recognise me as a using a pda.....
Anyone know a way around this... I use news.bbc.co.uk pretty frequently...

Use the options on the bbc website to select which version of news you want to read; text, mobile or full. It should remember when you come back to it, which is probably what is currently happening now, you visited the bbc before you hacked PIE to report that it was IE and you still have the PIE cookie on your phone.

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Embedded Flash in PIE or Opera

There are a lot of threads about this subject but somehow non of them where able to help me to get embedded Flash in websites.
I've installed the Flash 7 ActiveX plugin, installed Flash Lite. Together and separately. Reboots, instructions from this forum and instructions from Adobe.. nothing seems to help. I use the latest PIE and Opera Mobile 8.65.
When I visit www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/ in PIE I get a message that Flash version 7,0,70,0 is installed but without the embedded Flash element you would expect that says "Adobe Flash Player is installed.", like on a PC. When I visit the same page in Opera I don't get any messages about successful installations.
Is there something I'm doing wrong? If you need more details about somethings; let me know...
First post here... please be kind...
Actually, I've been looking for such a solution myself. Very easy to test my own website (www.LauraBraniganOnline.com) since I have Flash snippets on the top of each page that I purposely coded to read down to Flash 5...
Had an Axim x51v, Flash seemed to work OK... now got rid of that when I got my new AT&T/Cingular Tilt (HTC Kaiser), their latest ROM but hard-resetted and soft-resetted so I don't get AT&T's extra crap... btw doing this works fine for me.
But have Flash Lite 2.1 developer installed, had the Flash 6 installed, now have Flash 7 ActiveX installed, nothing works on any other browser but PIE (believe it or not, have Opera Mobile 8.65, MiniMo, and NetFront all installed).
Being from Philly originally, love to listen to KYW-AM news radio over the Internet, works fine on my laptop, dies on my new Kaiser... assuming that CBS coded their latest player at a Flash level higher than 7.
ANYWAY... what with all that background (are you all still awake... ), I'm wondering if there are any other back-end, side-end or otherwise workarounds to get OTHER browsers than PIE to read at least Flash applets coded for 7 or below... at least until the behemoth that is Adobe decides to actually give the incredibly exploding numbers of Mobile platform users a Flash player that actually works with WM6 and its growing number of non IE browsers. Heck, you'd think if they were so eager to push the Flash technology on everyone on the planet after buying out the much-loved Macromedia (I still use my good-ol' copy of Macromedia Dreamweaver!), that they'd have a mobile solution that actually works for those of us who still think that Microsoft is doing their own mobile users an injustice with a PIE that hasn't changed nearly at all from the old Pocket PC 2002 days...
Sorry for the rant -- spent about 5 days searching for a solution... and either I'm missing it, or it's really hidden... or it just isn't there yet... maybe we haven't bribed Adobe & Microsoft with enough $$$ to actually have them work on this...
BereanPK

How to see flash?

I tried to find an answer in the forum, but either it is an obvious question or i did not understand it (i am new to the WM world).
I simply do not see the whole page content, and i can not "click" on some of the visible content, probably because it is flash.
I checked at macro-media site and found there is an application but according to their info it supports only WM5.
Can someone help?
I am using many applications designed for WM 2002 which work just fine. I suggest you to try that one.
Can name few?
Ok. I installed the marcomedia flash support for IE, and works. Yet IE is by far slower than Opera. Is there a solution for Opera?
there is flash lite 3.1 in the development and hacking section of the forums, but i'm not sure if it works for diamond yet. :/
you can try though.
I am having this problem too, for example on Facebook if someone has posted a video that is not hosted on Youtube i cannot veiw it as my browser doesnt support flash. I have had this problem on a lot of web pages that have anysort of video on them even tho i have installed the latest flash.cab on my device is there a work around or is it just something we will have to make do with untill a newer version of opera is released?
Install this cab :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2608014&postcount=89

Best Web Browser for Treo Pro?

Hi guys!
i´ve just donwloaded the new opera 9.5 beta for my treo pro and at the beggining worked fine, but now, when i close the app, and try to re-open it later, it freezes and do not open at all. it only appears the name of the last webpage i tried to open. so i have to do a soft reset and will work again, but soon or later, it happens once more
what do u think about it?
i´ve tried to install it on the main memory, and it ´s the same
it doesn´t re-open after close it by clicking in the upper-right corner.
hi jumanjii,
I've had the same experience with the treo pro and opera mobile 9.5 beta. Basically if you use the built in task manager to kill Opera, it causes problems. There must be part of Opera that is not fully shutdown.
Until they resolve this, use the menu in the bottom right and select exit. This will shut opera down properly.
Im not certain but i think this is related to a bug with the opera widgets. Im not sure why but when ive had this problem sometimes the opera widgets folder/app is still running.
Id say get used to using the exit command in the menu, switch back to 8.6 or wait for the final version of Opera.
Skyfire FTW!
I vote for skyfire as well.
Merrijk said:
hi jumanjii,
I've had the same experience with the treo pro and opera mobile 9.5 beta. Basically if you use the built in task manager to kill Opera, it causes problems. There must be part of Opera that is not fully shutdown.
Until they resolve this, use the menu in the bottom right and select exit. This will shut opera down properly.
Im not certain but i think this is related to a bug with the opera widgets. Im not sure why but when ive had this problem sometimes the opera widgets folder/app is still running.
Id say get used to using the exit command in the menu, switch back to 8.6 or wait for the final version of Opera.
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thanks, i´ll try this
lewcamino said:
Skyfire FTW!
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why is the best web brower 4 u???
Originally Posted by lewcamino View Post
Skyfire FTW!
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Im sure Skyfire is great, unless your not in the US or Canada.
As far as im concerned international capability is a pretty key feature.
Merrijk said:
Im sure Skyfire is great, unless your not in the US or Canada.
As far as im concerned international capability is a pretty key feature.
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why would skyfire NOT work in any country except us and canada. its only a browser and thats it. It depends on weather u have a good signal or bad signal that mostly dictates how fast the internet.
Opera 8.65 works perfect for me. I haven't tried the Skyfire yet.
have u experienced very slow speed when browsing the net?¿?¿ i mean, with opera and internet explorer either. even loading google´s webpage takes ages!!!
Will IE 6 mobile be released as as installable app or will it only be available in ROM on new devices?
sschlesinger said:
why would skyfire NOT work in any country except us and canada. its only a browser and thats it. It depends on weather u have a good signal or bad signal that mostly dictates how fast the internet.
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Skyfire's website says that the browser is only supported in US and Canada. Apparently you can put in random numbers for the phone number during the registration process and get the cab. So i stand corrected.
BUT, they still dont official support its use outside the US. I think the reason is that skyfire uses its own servers (probably located in the US) to render the page and then sends it as a compressed image; Being outside the us means your introducing a 200ms delay (for us aussies atleast) to every action.
*completely non technical comment: does anyone else find the skyfire ceo product demos to be a bit weird and off putting; They seem way to sure of themselves and dismisive of other technologies they are borrowing from; it reminds me of the attitude of people during the dotcom boom. i dunno...
Merrijk said:
Skyfire's website says that the browser is only supported in US and Canada. Apparently you can put in random numbers for the phone number during the registration process and get the cab. So i stand corrected.
BUT, they still dont official support its use outside the US. I think the reason is that skyfire uses its own servers (probably located in the US) to render the page and then sends it as a compressed image; Being outside the us means your introducing a 200ms delay (for us aussies atleast) to every action.
*completely non technical comment: does anyone else find the skyfire ceo product demos to be a bit weird and off putting; They seem way to sure of themselves and dismisive of other technologies they are borrowing from; it reminds me of the attitude of people during the dotcom boom. i dunno...
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Thanks for enlightning me about that I had no Idea guess I take somethings for granted here. To me though a browser is still a browser however now that u said the skyfire servers are most likely in the US it does make sense.
IRIS browser
Ive been trying the open source IRIS browser the last few days. Its been good so far, very thumb friendly.
Opera Mini
I still am a fan of Opera Mini which works great after installing JRebeiro_EsmertecJbed.cab
I will try SkyFire today though
Best web browser
I live in Chile, in south america, and SKYFIRE work with any problems... great. but i use this only for web page with flash content, like youtube or others 'tubes' ... but for the rest, Opera is the better choice. IMHO.
Regards from the south of the world.
jumanji1212 said:
Hi guys!
i´ve just donwloaded the new opera 9.5 beta for my treo pro and at the beggining worked fine, but now, when i close the app, and try to re-open it later, it freezes and do not open at all. it only appears the name of the last webpage i tried to open. so i have to do a soft reset and will work again, but soon or later, it happens once more
what do u think about it?
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I use Opera 9.5 with Tf3D and haven't had any issues at all with it freezing or locking up or anything along those lines at all. Not sure if it is a function of the TF3D or the build I am using. The issue may be the build...
hi
with my blackstone i use opera 9.5 but with the treo netfront 3.5 rc9 is the best solution... you can download it for free on the access web site.
My treo Pro get some curious issue with Opera 9.5 : when launched, all my "sounds & notifications" choices was deleted, no alarms at all was selected. It happens every time i launch Opera !
Are you experienced the same Issue with Opera ?

iplayer website not working fully with Opera 10 beta

I've trawled other thread on both Opera and iplayer, without success, hence opening this one.
Don’t ask me how, but I’ve ‘lost’ the version of Opera which was preloaded on my Vodafone UK HD2, probably by having moved the shortcut via which the browser used to open.
I have since installed Opera 10 beta, and changed the custom user agent to ‘HTC_Touch_HD_T8282’ as per other thread, which is fine, and gets me on to the iplayer site as a recognised/supported device.
BUT, when I click on the ‘play’ icon on the TV show I’ve selected, I get a message from iplayer saying they don’t allow overseas users to view the content. The same can be said for any radio content, live or catch=up.
I’m very much in the UK, and get the same issue whether I use the home or office wireless networks, or over the data connection which was auto-configured for me when I first started on my stock Vodafone UK HD2.
I can get the stream working on Skyfire, but not view it at all well, as it doesn’t open within the application which I used to use with the older version of Opera for streaming media such as that from iplayer.
I looked for an Opera support forum, but the ones I founds aren’t that enlightening. Posters on the slightly better Skyfire forums seem to think that it’s down to the server via which the request to the iplayer server is routed is non-UK, and they start talking about proxy server settings and the like, which means zilch to me I’m afraid.
I’d like to watch via my Opera browser, but I’m at a loss to what to do next. Has anyone any ideas? Do I need to tweak some Opera settings in opera:config, change some settings elsewhere on my device, or find a way of making the iplayer server think (as I indeed am) in the UK? Any help or suggestions anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated, please.
Oh, and the great looking iplayer app isn’t working, as I get consistent error code, which I’ve posted about on the thread for that app.
Yorkshire Yellow said:
I've trawled other thread on both Opera and iplayer, without success, hence opening this one.
Don’t ask me how, but I’ve ‘lost’ the version of Opera which was preloaded on my Vodafone UK HD2, probably by having moved the shortcut via which the browser used to open.
I have since installed Opera 10 beta, and changed the custom user agent to ‘HTC_Touch_HD_T8282’ as per other thread, which is fine, and gets me on to the iplayer site as a recognised/supported device.
BUT, when I click on the ‘play’ icon on the TV show I’ve selected, I get a message from iplayer saying they don’t allow overseas users to view the content. The same can be said for any radio content, live or catch=up.
I’m very much in the UK, and get the same issue whether I use the home or office wireless networks, or over the data connection which was auto-configured for me when I first started on my stock Vodafone UK HD2.
I can get the stream working on Skyfire, but not view it at all well, as it doesn’t open within the application which I used to use with the older version of Opera for streaming media such as that from iplayer.
I looked for an Opera support forum, but the ones I founds aren’t that enlightening. Posters on the slightly better Skyfire forums seem to think that it’s down to the server via which the request to the iplayer server is routed is non-UK, and they start talking about proxy server settings and the like, which means zilch to me I’m afraid.
I’d like to watch via my Opera browser, but I’m at a loss to what to do next. Has anyone any ideas? Do I need to tweak some Opera settings in opera:config, change some settings elsewhere on my device, or find a way of making the iplayer server think (as I indeed am) in the UK? Any help or suggestions anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated, please.
Oh, and the great looking iplayer app isn’t working, as I get consistent error code, which I’ve posted about on the thread for that app.
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I remember reading some where that if you downloaded a US version of opera then it won't work. Try downloading a UK version (I could be talking rubbish though).
HD2 iplayer working in Opera 10 beta2
Hi I had a similar problem with my installed opera 9.7 on my vodafone hd2 which stopped working, & rather than factory reset the phone I installed Opera 10 beta 2 which is much better than 9.7 & i dont really miss the pinch zooming much. Anyway I got the same message that said iplayer only available to uk, and as i had recently checked the turbo option in the settings I decided to uninstal 10 beta2 & reinstal it but didnt check the turbo setting & went into the user pref & entered the ‘HTC_Touch_HD_T8282’ as per other thread, & also set the user agent to 2 instead of 1. I then saved & exited went into iplayer mobile & it works the only little niggle is the "download file - iplayer_streaming_n95_wifi.sdp" box which appears each time you want to use it. you have to click save & its only 4kb (THEN PRESS open to play the file) but it is annoying as opera 9.7 didnt bring it up. Im sure there is a setting somewhere that will do the streaming automatically but i havent found it as yet.
Re: Overseas user problem
In some situations (opera mini, new opera turbo mode, etc) opera route the traffic through their own proxy servers, so the bbc website sees their home as the connection country, which in the case of opera is norway,.
Just use myplayer instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501131
Thanks for all your suggestions
keith43 - You may be wrong, as I've searched and searched, and found nothing about a UK-specific version of the Opera 10 beta, or any other version in fact.
Samsamuel – Thanks for that. How would I route the traffic through a UK IP address, or fool the iplayer site into thinking that’s what I’m doing?
Shasarak – I did start to use myplayer, but to be honest didn’t find it the easiest to get on with, particularly when searching for programs. The iplayer app was better, but is no longer supported, apparently.
Rabidrat – Followed your tips, and now have iplayer working just fine. Brilliant! As you say, a little bit of a annoyance having to download a file for each program I want to view, but if it gets me to what I want to be doing, not a huge hassle I suppose. Am I right in thinking the site thinks I’m an N95? Isn’t that a Nokia device?
Yorkshire Yellow said:
keith43 - You may be wrong, as I've searched and searched, and found nothing about a UK-specific version of the Opera 10 beta, or any other version in fact.
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I suspect Keith was remembering something about Skyfire rather than Opera; it is possible to get Skyfire to use a UK-based proxy server which makes it compatible with iPlayer (although the result isn't that watchable - good resolution, but poor frame rate).
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Shasarak – I did start to use myplayer, but to be honest didn’t find it the easiest to get on with, particularly when searching for programs.
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Well, whatever works for you.
Personally I find the video quality you get when using the Opera user-agent hack is so atrocious that I'd really rather not bother; myplayer downloads are still pretty bad quality, but at least they don't actually make my eyeballs bleed.
The latest version of myplayer (1.96) supports iPlayer categories, which helps a little with searches.
I am using Latest Opera 10 Beta 3, I get download "iplayer_streaming_n95_wifi.ram" message, then when i click open nothing happens. Any ideas?
NickR said:
I am using Latest Opera 10 Beta 3, I get download "iplayer_streaming_n95_wifi.ram" message, then when i click open nothing happens. Any ideas?
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I am on beta 2, and get offered the option to 'save'. If I then open it, I get the stream okay.
I have disabled the 'opera turbo' option and changed the user agent from '1' to '2' (as per rabidrat's post above).
i also have the custom user agent altered to 'HTC_Touch_HD_T8282’ as per the Leo hint and tricks thread.
Yorkshire Yellow said:
I am on beta 2, and get offered the option to 'save'. If I then open it, I get the stream okay.
I have disabled the 'opera turbo' option and changed the user agent from '1' to '2' (as per rabidrat's post above).
i also have the custom user agent altered to 'HTC_Touch_HD_T8282’ as per the Leo hint and tricks thread.
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Thanks, I tried doing the opera:config setting made no difference, still get same problem.

Opera10 Help

Sorry I have to ask this, but I am no where near as savvy with a Windows Mobile device as most of you guys are, but maybe you can help? Just installed Opera10 on my HD2 "T-Mobile US," and for some reason it always defaults to "mobile' sites. Example, I type in youtube.com, but I go to m.youtube.com is there anyway to get to the actual youtube, I know it's possible I've seen it video. Please any help would be greatly appreciated.
John Wagner III said:
Sorry I have to ask this, but I am no where near as savvy with a Windows Mobile device as most of you guys are, but maybe you can help? Just installed Opera10 on my HD2 "T-Mobile US," and for some reason it always defaults to "mobile' sites. Example, I type in youtube.com, but I go to m.youtube.com is there anyway to get to the actual youtube, I know it's possible I've seen it video. Please any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I don't use Opera 10, but I know the m.youtube problem is also present in Opera 9.7. In the m.youtube homepage, you should see a "Show Full Version" (something like that) at the very bottom of the page.
Just a thought: Do you have anything in the Opera 10 Settings/Menu page that says "View Mobile pages"? If so, make sure that is unchecked.
I have both Opera browsers on the HD2. Not sure what opera version is the default, but I have no issues with getting the mobile sites. The default Opera will go to the real sites "non-mobile." I decided to get Opera 10 because a saw a video of it installed and you could enable flash, show I can watch "real' youtube videos. I really want flash so I can watch TV from fancast.com. I didn't see and full version option, but there is a check box for "mobile view;" checked off or on there is no difference.
At rhe bottom of the page there are two options Mobile and Desktop,chose the Desktop and bookmark it.
hagba said:
At rhe bottom of the page there are two options Mobile and Desktop,chose the Desktop and bookmark it.
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There is no desktop setting, only mobile and fullscreen. I have the mobile setting turned off, and still getting only "mobile sites"
John Wagner III said:
I have both Opera browsers on the HD2. Not sure what opera version is the default, but I have no issues with getting the mobile sites. The default Opera will go to the real sites "non-mobile." I decided to get Opera 10 because a saw a video of it installed and you could enable flash, show I can watch "real' youtube videos. I really want flash so I can watch TV from fancast.com. I didn't see and full version option, but there is a check box for "mobile view;" checked off or on there is no difference.
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opera 10 doesn't play flash any better than opera 9.7. Youtube and a select few other videos can be watched, but something like fancast will probably require skyfire.
Opera 10 issue
I have recently had a problem with Opera 10. I no always get an error message stating 'could not find proxy server' or 'the url address is busy' etc. Reverting to opera mobile 9.7 removed this problem. Something to consider.
(If anyone knows how to fix this I'd be chuffed. I don't want to hi-jack the thread).
Desmac
John Wagner III said:
There is no desktop setting, only mobile and fullscreen. I have the mobile setting turned off, and still getting only "mobile sites"
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Facebook started doing that to me - I don't want to use m.facebook, but it's quite hard (even with bookmarks) to stay on the full web site.
It was working fine - and I didn't change my version of the browser - so I assume facebook themselves changed something, but it must still be something to do with the way opera mobile identifies itself with a web site.
And certainly don't want to use the Microsoft fb app - what a stunning demonstration of how not to write an app that was
The User-Agent field in the http request is identifying your device as a mobile so the web site is serving it's mobile version. The are ways to edit the User-Agent string to fool the web site into providing the full version straight off..
Airborne Aircrew said:
The are ways to edit the User-Agent string to fool the web site into providing the full version straight off..
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Apparently (I haven't tried it myself yet)
In the address bar, type in
about:config
scroll down on the page to item User Agent and click on it.
It says Spoof user agent ID
Change it to one of the following numbers:
1 is Opera Mobile
2 is Firefox
3 is desktop IE 6

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