Hi all,
First of all, a big thx to every contributer on this forum, you guys helped me out a lot so far.
Secondly, a question about TS via citrix: When i log in to a citrix portal, and choose TS to remotely administer a box on the corp. network, my mda pro seems to be launching mstsc40.exe for this purpose, as the big blue bars are popping up in the screen, with the size options at the bottom.
I was wondering, is there a way to tell my device to use the nifty VJFullscreenTSC there, instead of the standard one?
TIA!
VJFTSC runs ontop of mstsc, so run VJFTSC first (or at any point), let it load MSTSC in the normal fashion, and then hack mstsc with VJFSTSC once your in terminal services (does that make sense?!)
I was once asked to prepare a version of VJFTSC for citrix, but the guy disappeared so I never bothered. I once prepared a version for the java midlet manager too, but then that guy disappeared as well! Je pense: Alien abductions :shock:
V
thx for your answer V!
i've tried your suggestion, started VJFullscreenTSC, and i see the little bar in the upright side of the screen. I then browse to the citrixportal, logon, choose termserv from one of the availlable options, it then launches the term serv app from the portal, and then presents me the standard TS screen with the bars. When i then try to activate the VJTS it presents me a new connection screen, while i hoped i would pick up the current allready connected one. So..still stuck with the bars. Did i follow your instructions correctly or did i miss something?
thx man!
Are you sure that citrix is launching MSTSC? VJFTSC should detect any running instance. If you've got a test citrix server I can connect to, I'm happy to have a look. Otherwise, send me a screenshot of your system when connected up, to see what I can do.
V
V,
i'm not sure how this thing works, but i can imagine the citrix client is presenting me the TSclient installed on the citrix servers portal, thus only presenting me the screen, ill try to sort it out. I have no test citrix box availlable, but i'll have a chat with the citrix admin to see what we can do about it.
thx again!
Are you sure Citrix launches MSTSC - isnt it launching WFICACE ??
If so on your PDA open http:127.0.0.1 in PIE and set the FullSCreen Options there
TO save some time
Im one of the citrix Admin That Mike has refered to
He has the ICA Client on his PDA
I have Published RDP on a Citrix server
Once a connection to the portal is made the ICA clent kicks off an RPD session that is hosted on the CItrix Server
That fills in the blanks now back to the brain cells in the forum
Regards
Related
Hello, Hopefully someone has already had this problem and fixed it.
I am using the Citrix ICA client to launch Applications on my Companies Web Server.
The apps load in okay however they are always launched zoomed into the whole application at once.
Trouble is this makes the Writting very small and difficult to read.
There is a Giant bar at the bottom of the screen with the keyboard icon that takes up far to much room. and on it are the ICA zoom in and out buttons. only thing is they dont work on WM5.
Anybody got any ideas for either hiding the bottom bar or getting the zoom buttons working.
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aajs: with respect to terminal services, see here
I'm working to get a beta version of full screen terminal services out within a week; I've posted that if someone show's me a screenshot of the Citrix client (or sends me a copy of the client paying attention to pirating and copyright issues, and a test server address to test on) I'll have a play with it to see if I can sort it out as well. No promises on time frame though.
V
V,
you can download the Citrix-Client for free from www.citrix.com
Wolfgang
Thanks Wolfgang; I'll try to look into it.
If you've got a screenshot of it running, I'll be able to give you a quick idea if I can fix it. I don't quite understand how the problem looks on your PDA, and can't really install and test it right now.
V
I'd like to send you a sreenshot, but I have still some problems to configure the program.
Citrix tries to connect to http://127.0.0.1 and the MDA tries to open a connection to through the phone instead connecting to the localhost.
I'm searching still (on my Blueangel it worked without any problems)
Wolfgang
aajs said:
The apps load in okay however they are always launched zoomed into the whole application at once.
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This is working the way it should. I'm assuming that you're comparing this to the way the Citrix ICA client looks on another PocketPC. Because the Universal's screen resolution is 640x480 you'll be able to see much more of your application than you can with a 'standard' PocketPC who's screen resolution is only 320x240 (or one quarter of the Jasjar's screen). Since the screen on the universal and the screen on most PocketPC's are about the same physical size and you're able to see four times as much information on the universal that has the effect of making everything look much smaller.
Personally, I love the fact that it does this and this is one of the only reasons why I got a universal. It is much more useful to me because you can see so much more information on the screen at once.
Anybody got any ideas for either hiding the bottom bar or getting the zoom buttons working.
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The zoom buttons do work, but they don't do what you think. Because the Universal's screen does have those bars on the top and bottom of the screen you don't get the full 640x480 resolution for your Citrix session - you need to scroll up or down to see the parts of the screen that the bars are covering. The zoom buttons can 'shrink' the citrix screen so that the whole height of the screen fits between the two bars - it actually makes the screen smaller so that you don't have to scroll up and down.
As far as I know there is no way to completely hide the bars unless vijay is able to work his magic on them
Brett
Brett, if you've got a screenshot I'll get an idea of what you guys mean.
I'll be working on the Terminal Services client this weekend hopefully, and then I'll see what else can be thrown together!
V
Hi! Hope you could help me (again) :?
First I need to tell - I was searching the forum and net, but unfortunately I can't find what I'm exactly looking for.
(I'm asking about Wizard not Universal / Himalaya...)
What is in your opinion the best (easiest, fastest, most readable with 320x240 resolution, working full screen and in landscape mode, cheapest...) way to remotely connect to the desktop workstation?
[1] Connecting to the Linux box
1A. Command line / shell via ssh/ssh2 – there’s no need to use any special server software nor configuration, but there’s a question about the best client software. Right now I'm going to use http://www.pocketputty.net/. Did you try any of these with Wizard?
PocketPuTTY 0.1 for WM2003 (stable)
PocketPuTTY 0.2 for PPC2002 (highly experimental, unstable)
PocketPuTTY 2006-05-04 dev snapshot for WM2003 (latest, highly experimental)
How stable is the “dev snapshot” version and is there any other (free or almost free) ssh/ssh2 client for PocketPC?
I used to use PuTTY for Symbian S60 and it worked like a charm...
1B. Remote Desktop – what is the best client-server software to do it?
I used to use VNC for Linux PC – Linux PC connection, but I’m not sure if it’s good idea to use VNC with (so) small screen. Any tips and tricks or suggestions how to configure both ends?
[2] Connecting to WindowsXP PC
2A. Command line / shell via ssh/ssh2 – is it possible at all?
Will I need software acting as a server on the PC or there is this kind of software already in the system? Tips & Tricks & configuration examples are very welcome
2B. Remote Desktop – the best client & server software to do it?
Should I use VNC (server and client, like under Linux) or Remote Desktop server already incorporated in WinXP (what about the client in this case)?
And finally – where I can find a manual, help files or specification of the TSC pre installed on my device? Is this software useable?
Maybe I’m looking for something I already have…
Sorry for plenty of questions, but longer I'm searching - more questions I have.
I really appreciate yours opinions
All advices, links, PM's are very, very welcome
Thanks in advance
exbros
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And finally – where I can find a manual, help files or specification of the TSC pre installed on my device? Is this software useable?
Maybe I’m looking for something I already have…
exbros
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To use the pre installed terminal server you need to turn on remote desktop (winxp pro) and input your ip address on the wizard in the terminal server application, as long as your firewall is configured to allow the connection you should be able to control your pc using the software you already have, alternatively you can use services like log me in etc.
good luck
post back if you hit trouble
Rob
I use logmein.com's basic, free service. simple, quick, encrypted and you dont have to remember ip's or anything.
try http://gomyplace.com/ if you need something simple just to browse files on the remote and execute commands in the command shell
you will need just a regular internet browser to access the remot host
free, open source (GPL), works in NATed, firewalled environments, dynamic IPs, etc.
runs on Linux/Win32/Mac requires Java on the host machine
client needs only internet browser
Linux
PocketPuTTy is the way to go for connecting to a linux machine remotely, I'm using the latest dev build on my PDA and haven't found any issues yet, although i have only been using it for about 2 days. It works fine on the screensize too as its only command line.
Windows
I wouldn't even bother with command line for windows, as its horribly underpowered and wont provide you with much usability. It is possible to run SSH on windows, but like I said, I would see no reason too.
I used to have a VNC client for my old Axim X50 which ran great, it supported screen scaling, so it would fit my entire 1600x1280 screen onto the PDA no problems, and zoomed in when I required. It was only really usable to perform very simple tasks, but thats all I needed. Unfortunately I don't remember the clients name, however there are a number on the market that provide the same features.. maybe trying the following?
http://www.parystec.demon.co.uk/pt_vnc_WM5.htm
I use realVNC for my server. Oh and any VNC client should work with any VNC server, so if you installed VNC on linux, this should work fine.
Hope that helps
Hi,
i am looking for an apllication to control myuniversal from a desktop computer.I have read it somewhere but i can't find the topic. What i want, is to use my PDA directly from desktop PC. As i remeber tha application was able togiv the full control to the PC and you was able to reach, run all appliacation and others from desktop monitor as if the desktop monitor would be display.
I need this because my screen had broken and before i send it to the service i need to use my PDA.
THX
Kucsi
Try Microsoft Remote Display Control from this web link - but like with most applications you'll need to install it and run it on the Exec before you can connect to it so this may not be of much use...
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/wce/downloads/ppctoys.mspx#ELD
Start the "Remote Display Control Host" on your PC
Then on my Exec the key combination get this running once installed is:
Windows key->P (Open start menu and get to programs listing)
C then right arrow twice (Program is called "cerdisp" so on mine it's the 3rd application who's name starts with C, the first 2 being Calculator and Camera)
Enter then OK (Start the application and bypass the Microsoft copyright message)
C and then Enter (Connect and then accept the default hostname assuming you are using ActiveSync)
I hope this helps!
G
p.s. In my experience if you are using 640x480 this application only works in landscape. Not entirely sure why.
You want Pocket Controller from SOTI.
I use it at work - makes it easier to reply to texts - looks like I'm working while I'm actually arranging which pub to meet at that evening after work :wink:
That microsoft one is slick. Thanks!!! I have a wizard but this thread had recent activity so i checked it out. nice little app!!!.
You may also wnt to read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=514&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 - it lists and compares ALL the available solutions.
Is it possible?
this does the job. not cheap though.
http://www.salling.com/Clicker/windows/
Or you can use Puppet Master
http://www.lim.com.au/PuppetMaster/
or you PEBBLES remote commander, available free; just google it and you will find it. it works great.
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Is it possible?
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I like "Logmein". It will switch off and on if you have wake on LAN. In short you can start and run any programme you would normally, including print etc etc.
Logmein is free though you have to register for obvious reasons as you can control any computer with internet access.
Find it here:
https://secure.logmein.com/
I beleive Menneisyys will be reviewing this type of application soon.
Mike
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I like "Logmein". It will switch off and on if you have wake on LAN. In short you can start and run any programme you would normally, including print etc etc.
Logmein is free though you have to register for obvious reasons as you can control any computer with internet access.
Find it here:
https://secure.logmein.com/
I beleive Menneisyys will be reviewing this type of application soon.
Mike
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Yup, the reveiw will be published, it seems, tomorrow - I'm doing the last small fixes on it.
in the meantime, I recommend the "Shutdown?" row in the comparison chart at http://www.winmobiletech.com/PPC2PCRemoteRoundupTable.htm . In a nutshell, all remote controller apps can shut down the desktop PC, except for RDP-based ones.
What can I say, looks like menneisyys (the man who never sleeps!) is about to do it again. Even the comparison table is brilliant.
Mike
y pay (for software) to shut down your home pc! i use terminal client service to shut down home pc all the time!
MakaveliReturns, although remote control applications probably do more than ud like for them to do, they can accomplish ur purpose and i think ull love what they can do for u..
its just cool neway and comes in handy when im at school n such.
and a vote for logmein, a free wonderful tool, just got to register and install on ur pda and the computer u want to connect to, doesnt require the remote pc to confirm, just a psw ull have to input upon connection
good luck =)
Hi all, not sure if anyone wants to go this far, but I found an old Compaq DL580 server, and bought a remote lights out 2 card for it, bacisally the remote lights out card is a small webserver that has its own NIC and power, it detects for CE devices at login, and even has a slightly trimmed down admin page for it, I have had issues with RD spazzin out on me at times, and didn't really like the other remote login choices, I have to admit it put a big smile on my face powering on my server from my tytn with the tap of the screen, sorry if I went a bit off topic, I know this was just about powering off a pc, but for about $200 or less you can have total control, and not rely on 3rd parties, or microsoft.
mikechannon said:
I like "Logmein". It will switch off and on if you have wake on LAN. In short you can start and run any programme you would normally, including print etc etc.
Logmein is free though you have to register for obvious reasons as you can control any computer with internet access.
Find it here:
https://secure.logmein.com/
I beleive Menneisyys will be reviewing this type of application soon.
Mike
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I also use logmein. The great thing about this is that you can also use another pc to remote control your pc instead of you pda.
Ok, i know this one has probably been done to death, and yes i have searched the internet and this board for an answer and i couldn't find it. So what is my question you may ask?
My question is this. Where do i find a working remote desktop application for windows mobile 6.5 (OS version 5.2.21869) rom version 1.66.405.2 (FYI my provider is O2-UK, the device is fresh out of the factory and not O2 branded). I have an app installed at the monent that is supposed to work but all i get is a "connecting" message and nothing more and that's using wifi to a windows 2003 SBS server or my windows 7 pro desktop. I have tried IP address's and hostnames and still nothing. I did notice that if i connected to the server from my desktop while my phone was trying to do the same i did get a "connection failed" message on the phone. I'm also having issues getting vnc to work (it's acutally pretty much the same problem as i get with RDP).
I do know my wifi works becuase i use it all the time in the house and the GSM radio is definitely able to talk to my home network on the external side because exchange direct push is working perfectly in secure mode.
So ideas or links will be welcome.
Thanks guys and it's good to be back.
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I just had a thought. Would the activex control for IE that RWWP work?
The problem is your setup on your PC. Remote desktop on the phone works out of the box (as long as it can connect then it will.)
There have been discussions on this forum about Windows 7 and remote desktop, so it's there to find (I know you said you searched, but it is there!)
I use Windows XP and had my home PC setup for RDP connections already as I connect from other PCs, so when I got my HD2 it worked straight away.
I should say at this point i am an IT Engineer. I have tested this to death. I have tried it with firewalls on and firewalls off. Exceptions allowed and not.
Please also note i was trying to connect to my windows 2003 SBS server which does work from my desktop (and if i really wanted to i can connect from the server to the desktop using RDP or VNC) and my preivous HTC touch diamond and the HTC artemis i had before that. Although since my last RDP install on a phone (and considering my last phone ran WM6.1) i've lost the cab file i had.
John, thanks for the fast response. I really do appreciated it but i think you missed the mark a little. If you wanna have another stab feel free.
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I should say at this point i am an IT Engineer. I have tested this to death. I have tried it with firewalls on and firewalls off. Exceptions allowed and not.
Please also note i was trying to connect to my windows 2003 SBS server which does work from my desktop (and if i really wanted to i can connect from the server to the desktop using RDP or VNC) and my preivous HTC touch diamond and the HTC artemis i had before that. Although since my last RDP install on a phone (and considering my last phone ran WM6.1) i've lost the cab file i had.
John, thanks for the fast response. I really do appreciated it but i think you missed the mark a little. If you wanna have another stab feel free.
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I'm not a Windows 7 user, so I can't vouch for any of the conversations that I've seen on here, but there have been many regarding this exact issue. It usually turns out that they don't have a version of Windows 7 that will allow them to host RDP sessions, or that there was a setup issue that could be resolved.
Have a look at this thread and see if anything there helps...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533664
I got this from searching and was a little confused as to why, until I got past the first 2 posts
Hope you find something useful mate.
Nope that's of no use. It's only discussing very basic and standard things i have already done but i must emphasize that i am not really that concerned with connecting to my desktop from the phone (i'm just using it in my testing to prove that RDP is actually open and working on both computers). The server is the most important thing right now and as i have said it has worked in the past. I have not changed any settings on either of my machines and i can not get it to function with this new phone.
I'm pretty sure it's something wrong with the rdp client i had to install on the phone because it didn't come with one. I have read that there is one that works and one that doesn't but there was no further clarification of which was which. Right now i would settle for a verified known working client for the phone but i just can't seem to find a link. Hell if someone out there knows of a VNC client that works i'd settle for that.
Just to show how dedicated and willing i am to get this sorted i did follow the instructions for creating a vpn (well tbh i had already created one ) that connected no worries. Then I fired up the rdp client and tapped in the internal ip address for the server, username, password and local domain. It's come back and said it's "connecting..." but i can see no activity on my internet connection coming to or from my phone. Yet if click the shortcut on my Desktop that has the same details it connects faster than i can blink.
Also please take into account that windows 2003 SBS only has a firewall on the external interface. So the internal network is unprotected. The VPN connection bypasses the firewall for authenticated external devices and users. That is why it was suggested in the link you posted because the same situation is created when you use it on windows Vista or Windows 7.
p.s while i was proof reading this i tested it on the wifi (so on the internal side of the network) and nothing. I'm pretty sure from monitoring the wifi link activity that the RDP client isn't sending out any data at all which sort of comfirms that there is a working and non working client. Seems i have the wrong one. Has anyone got any links to windows mobile 6.5 RDP or VNC clients that i can test?
Thank you everybody.
I didn't realise that there was a non-working version of remote desktop out there. That sort of explains it then doesn't it!
I know it's overkill, but if you can't find a working version of the app then you could always flash a ROM that has it, but like I said, the version that was on my phone when I got it (1.43 ROM WWE) worked from day 1.
You may not have an answer yet, but at least you've ruled a lot of stuff out.
Hope you get it sorted mate.
Now isn't a good time to reflash the rom because i'm a bit busy with other things but it is something i was considering solely because the HTC text messaging application is awful and i'm pretty sure it has a memory leak in it.
So what's the recommendations for roms taking into account that according to HTC i have the latest version for my provider.
Also i'm still open to suggestions on the VNC front?
RDP works flawlessly here too, but then again I had it in my ROM. You say you saw 2 versions of the RDP client, I'd recommend trying the other one, and if it still doesn't work... happy flashing The ROM in my signature works fine, but it's just one of many.
Well i read it in a post on another forum as a response to someone having a problem like mine BUT with windows 7 home prem which isn't ever going to work. Unfortunately there was no links provided.
I think i better go and get the kettle and move it into my office and start some hardcore searching. Man, I hate hardcore searching.
VNC Viewer
Attached is a FREEWARE VNC viewer I have been using on various HTC devices I have owned over the years, and it works perfectly well for me. I know you guys are discussing RD Protocols and Services, but if you have UltraVNC server available on your "host" PC, then this little beauty will work like a charm!
I use it all the time to dial into my home PCs and switch torrents on and off of downloading etc. and it is faultless. I also use it on my work phone to connect to our customers PCs in order to remote fault find / rectify etc..
N.B. This viewer IS NOT written by me, nor have I anything to do with it, all I know is that it is based on FREEWARE public domain code, and issued as freeware, and on an "as is" basis to the WM community.
interesting to see you have the exact same version of the phone as me. I have tried that VNC viewer already with no luck at all but i'll give it another go and see what happens.
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just tried it out and with good results. Hooked up to the server on the wifi just fine but i really wouldn't wanna have to click n drag something. so that will buy me sometime while i work on the RDP thing.
Thanks namwollem
Ok spent almost an hour search and got a couple of hits. Thanks to a thread on social.microsoft.com i found the cab file should be called wm6rdp.cab. Ran a search for it in google and found 2 different versions. One cooked by a guy called finster and another one (looks more offical) the finster version installed and seemed older than the version i had as it didn't support remote storage. That failed to do anything new. I next tried the more official looking cab and this removed the finster version, soft rebooted the phone and looked promising but alas it didn;t do anything different. Interestingly i now have 2 RDP icons on my start menu. both run the same app so i'm a bit confused as to how that happened.
I'm really quite stuck now and, as i mention before, i want to avoid flashing the phone for now so i'm still open to ideas.
I hate it when things get wierd. I removed all the rdp clients i had installed in an effort to tidy up a little bit. There was one that would not remove. It was marked "bengalih productions windows mobile..." so i figured i would give the phone a reboot and try see if it worked and hey presto it does. This is the original client that i installed and the first that didn't work and i haven;t changed the config at all so i'm completely baffled. I have noticed in further testing that if i select any options (like fit to screen, or colour depth) it will not connect but if you give it the user and machine details it seems to work. It also is not not RDP version 7 compatible (so you can't use it to connect to windows 7 pro or ultimate machines) but who cares when you have VNC and RDP working?
So i am happy. Thanks for all your help guys.