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IIWPO: Theft protection also proven on Wizard

Based of the IIWPO solution initially meant for Wallaby devices (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=2526), I created a customizable installer for Himalaya:
See the Wiki page on IIWPO
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/IIWPO
Hopefully IIWPO suprises a lot of thiefs!!!!!
IIWPO has proven that it is also fully functional on Wizard. I guess this means it woll be working on WM5 devices in general.
One remark: Due to the different memory behaviour under WM5 you might notice IIWPO does not send an SMS immediately after you change the onwer-info (ie. for test purposes). But it definitely will when the device is woken up after some time!

I followed every step and it isn't working for me.
I checked every setting after installing and everything is in the right folder / registry.
I rebooted my Wizard several times (poweroff button / pen soft-reset) and it never send an SMS.

WM2005
edsub:
How do you get around the fact that WM2005 no longer has a useful extended rom and config.txt? Do you now install a iiwpo.exe into the \Windows\Start-up folder?
Any ideas on how to hide it successfully the way it used to be in a hidden and locked extended Rom?
M

Anyone has tried it on Kjam?

QuasaR said:
I followed every step and it isn't working for me.
I checked every setting after installing and everything is in the right folder / registry.
I rebooted my Wizard several times (poweroff button / pen soft-reset) and it never send an SMS.
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I guess you did personalize the platformxxx.reg file (put in your own data, note the phone# needs to be in international format).
If then the registry just contains the correct data, ie YOUR correct name and SOMEONE's phone# (to send to sms to) I cannot imagine it is not working. The SMS should be sent when your device is woken-up (by just pressing power button). Afaik the SMS is not sent when the device is switched on (ie. after pressing power button 5 secs) or a reset.
pneuma said:
Any ideas on how to hide it successfully the way it used to be in a hidden and locked extended Rom?
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Until there is a decent solution the trick is:
-Backup your OS & radio rom using aWizard tools
-Flash with an 1.5.x ROM using regular procedure (RUU)
-Create your own ExtROM (its writable in this version)
-Restore your backed-up OS & Radio ROM using aWizard tools
Advantage of this is the thief also cannot purge the ExtROM (without upgrading) . . .
slumpolo said:
Anyone has tried it on Kjam?
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As KJam is a Wizard also there is no reason why it should not work

is it possible to use this tool, but without locking the ExtendenRom and without rom upgrade?
even if it is less safe...I prefer using my Extended Rom for some applications but also prefer not to upgrade my Qteck9100 yet.
So I have put it all in the extended rom, but will this 'Config.txt' and 'Autorun.exe' be invoked on a hard reset when the Extende Rom is not locked...
when installing, should i install it in the extende rom or in the device itself?
thanks for the great tips!
CIAO!
VOODOOS!L

edsub said:
QuasaR said:
I followed every step and it isn't working for me.
I checked every setting after installing and everything is in the right folder / registry.
I rebooted my Wizard several times (poweroff button / pen soft-reset) and it never send an SMS.
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I guess you did personalize the platformxxx.reg file (put in your own data, note the phone# needs to be in international format).
If then the registry just contains the correct data, ie YOUR correct name and SOMEONE's phone# (to send to sms to) I cannot imagine it is not working. The SMS should be sent when your device is woken-up (by just pressing power button). Afaik the SMS is not sent when the device is switched on (ie. after pressing power button 5 secs) or a reset.
pneuma said:
Any ideas on how to hide it successfully the way it used to be in a hidden and locked extended Rom?
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Until there is a decent solution the trick is:
-Backup your OS & radio rom using aWizard tools
-Flash with an 1.5.x ROM using regular procedure (RUU)
-Create your own ExtROM (its writable in this version)
-Restore your backed-up OS & Radio ROM using aWizard tools
Advantage of this is the thief also cannot purge the ExtROM (without upgrading) . . .
slumpolo said:
Anyone has tried it on Kjam?
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As KJam is a Wizard also there is no reason why it should not work
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I personalized everything but it never sends an SMS so i tried to run the files manually.
When i run the file \Windows\iiwpo_main.exe is sends the SMS immediately.
Any ideas on where it can go wrong ?
I also tried to run the \Windows\iiwpo_start.exe and \Windows\Opstarten\iiwpo_start.exe but that did nothing.

Himalaya + WM2005
edsub:
Referring to your reply, sorry I failed to mention I am using Himalaya and enjoyed the iiwpo up until I upgrade to WM2005, after which the extended rom became a useless memory area for Hima devices and was therefore re-claimed with buzz's DOCtools.
Does the extrom in wizard wm5 still have a purpose? As far as I know the files like config.ini never get called by wm5?
Also, Is the current release a rewrite for WM5 or still the same version since 2003 1st edition?

How can i unnistall IIWPO ? I need real HELP pls
Hi guys
I installed IIWPO in my Qtek9100 (Wizard), followed all steps and it doesnt work.
So I decide to unistall it.
I did it from Revome Programs option and with resco i removed registry key .
Now when i do a soft reset i receive allways a Notification Error Mess : Cannot execute \windows\IIWPO_main.exe
This appears also during phone calls !!!
Apps are not in \windows and no more in \windows\startup, registry key is not there. What can i do more ?
Please I need HELP
Thanks
Jorge

My guess is that non-functioning has to do with localized versions of WM5.
The cab uses hard-coded pathnames (needed by setup.dll, especially during the customisation process)

It is confirmed that un-install issues have to do with a left-behind notification in the notification db.
Use Check Notifications by scarybear software to get rid of all IIWPO notifications OR do a hard reset :wink:
I updated the IIWPO wiki on this

HIDE / SHOW ExtROM on HTC TyTN (Registry Tweak)

Hide/Show Hidden ROM (at least works on my TyTN - German ROM)
SHOWN:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\EXT_FLASHDRV] "Bootphase"=dword:00000002
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV] "MountHidden"=dword:00000000
HIDDEN:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\EXT_FLASHDRV] "Bootphase"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV] "MountHidden"=dword:00000001

For me this was the default:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\EXT_FLASHDRV] "Bootphase"=dword:00000002
So, I only had to change this from 1 to 0:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV] "MountHidden"=dword:00000000
Now I can see the extended rom, my device is an HTC TyTN WWE, I will post the ExtROM to FTP in a while.
I also have updated the wiki page with your hack:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unhide_Extrom
Thanks!

pof said:
I also have updated the wiki page with your hack:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unhide_Extrom
Thanks!
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GREAT !
Now we still need 2 very important Registry Hacks (or missing links to get them work):
1. A hack for presenting a differentiation between GPRS/EDGE and UMTS/HSDPA
2. A hack for invoking the EngineeringTest Mode
I've been unable so far to get that working on the Hermes platform. Keep trying.

pof said:
I also have updated the wiki page with your hack:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unhide_Extrom
Thanks!
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GREAT !
Now we still need 2 very important Registry Hacks (or missing links to get them work):
1. A hack for presenting a differentiation between GPRS/EDGE and UMTS/HSDPA
2. A hack for invoking the EngineeringTest Mode
I've been unable so far to get that working on the Hermes platform. Keep trying.

pof said:
Now I can see the extended rom, my device is an HTC TyTN WWE, I will post the ExtROM to FTP in a while.
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Thank you.

I finished uploading my ExtROM, I also created a wiki page with the contents of all the available Extended ROMs on FTP so far:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtendedRoms
If anyone has a different version not listed, please do the following:
1) Unhide it
2) Zip it
3) Upload it
4) Update the wiki page
Thanks!

pof said:
I finished uploading my ExtROM, I also created a wiki page with the contents of all the available Extended ROMs on FTP so far:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtendedRoms
If anyone has a different version not listed, please do the following:
1) Unhide it
2) Zip it
3) Upload it
4) Update the wiki page
Thanks!
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Heh, youre busy one.
I added a registry tweak to change the titlebar clock to an annalog one, if someone is interested.
Hopefully we can keep the wiki growing and useful.

My default setup was also:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\EXT_FLASHDRV] "Bootphase"=dword:00000002
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV] "MountHidden"=dword:00000001
So I just changed to:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV] "MountHidden"=dword:00000000
and did a soft reset. The extended rom then appeared but it was still write protected. How do I get rid of the write protection?
LJ

Use the cab file in the wiki, it unlocks and unhides ExtROM.

After using the cab fille and/or making the tweaks myself, and the are the same as described as above, the result is that I can see the ext. rom, but it is still write protected. I can't delete any file or write a file to the ext. rom. I've got a Tytn WWE. What is the problem, or better: what is the solution???

Should be wrtitable using this cab:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/HERMES_MountExtROM.CAB
If it's not, then try to hard reset and then use the cab without messing with registry keys before.

Problem with Extended ROM
I have tried all the methods in the wiki and also all the reg. edit trick but I still can't see my extended ROM. When I run the cab to Mount Extended ROM it crashes my TyTN. Locks it up befor making it to the windows screen. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this or tell me where to look? I was going to mess around with bootloader but I am not that computer savy.

hard reset and install the unhider&unlcoker cab file. it should work after hard reset.

Have tried to Hard Reset my Taiwanese CHT9000 and only apply the HERMES_MountExtROM.CAB tweak, now can see the Extend ROM, but still cannot "unprotect" the ROM. Cannot make it writable. Any other methods? Like modifying the registry? Thanks a lot in advance!!

ghl10000 said:
pof said:
I also have updated the wiki page with your hack:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unhide_Extrom
Thanks!
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GREAT !
Now we still need 2 very important Registry Hacks (or missing links to get them work):
1. A hack for presenting a differentiation between GPRS/EDGE and UMTS/HSDPA
2. A hack for invoking the EngineeringTest Mode
I've been unable so far to get that working on the Hermes platform. Keep trying.
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On my Vario 2, when I'm using 3G (and therefore, HSDPA) the [3G] icon is shown in the top bar (and when it connects a small connecting icon with the moving arrows and 3G in it is diplayed, next to the square 3G indicator) - when it drops back to GPRS, it just changes to [G].
Does yours not do this?

rcyh said:
Have tried to Hard Reset my Taiwanese CHT9000 and only apply the HERMES_MountExtROM.CAB tweak, now can see the Extend ROM, but still cannot "unprotect" the ROM. Cannot make it writable. Any other methods? Like modifying the registry? Thanks a lot in advance!!
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http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=453&PN=1
Unsure whether it works myself, as I've not tried it yet, but I'd put (a small amount of) money on it that it works

Hi Chris, Thanks for your reply!!
Unfortunately, my device is still un-protectable after following the whole process. And the registry settings I have checked are exactly the same as the described. The Extended_ROM directory is still write-protected. Couldn't add or delete files in it.
Maybe I am the unlucky one that couldn't change the extended ROM at all...

Since the digital signature security autentification for CABs in ExtROM is on by default, putting in any CAB file that is either not digitally signed, or loses its authenticity because it was modified will not be installed during the Customization phase after a hard reset.
Any ideas how to solve this problen on TyTN?
There was the soluton for the Universal devices wiht the Default_Signed_DisabledSecurity.CAB. This CAB has the right signature for Universal, but it dosn’t work on TyTN.

From this MSDN discussion about Windows Mobile 5 code signing,
"Looks like you won't have to sign the cab if wceload.exe isn't used to install it. Although if it is used to install the cab file you will need to sign it."
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http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/12/17/security_model_faq.aspx#506035
A possible gap? If someone could come up with a third party CAB installer that could be used during customisation, maybe it could bypass the official CAB installation procedure (and therefore the signed certificate verification) entirely? Just a thought.

For Universal this problem i think was decided here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33638&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=150) with the help of Default_Signed_DisableSecurity.CAB. But this CAB not work on my TyTN. I think it because of wrong digital sign.

Blank screen of writing a new text message on 818pro

Blank screen of writing a new text message on 818pro.
Is there anyone can help? There will have no problem after hard reset, it seems one of the programs causes this problem. But does anyone know the reason? Is it memory insufficient?

scott4 said:
Blank screen of writing a new text message on 818pro.
Is there anyone can help? There will have no problem after hard reset, it seems one of the programs causes this problem. But does anyone know the reason? Is it memory insufficient?
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I have absolutely not clue what you want here. Could you rephrase your problem again and explain it a bit more clearly please ?

Spatzm said:
I have absolutely not clue what you want here. Could you rephrase your problem again and explain it a bit more clearly please ?
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when I press "New" button in order to write a new SMS (text message) of my 818pro. The content of the message is just a blank screen, I can do nothing with it except closing it. This also affects on MMS and Email.
Is there anything corrupted?

scott4 said:
Is there anything corrupted?
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This reminds me of something yes. Could you please do these things and reply with answers to my questions ?
a) How much space do you have remaining on your device (how much free ram) ?
b) Go to Start -> Settings -> Installed Software or hows it called (the place where you see what software is installed) and tell me if the list is still there. Do you see your installed programms in the list or is it empty ?
http://www.choiceway.com/content/gsi/ppc_rem9.gif
c) Can you uninstall or install new software ? Please test with some small CAB file on your device.

is Arabizer installed on ur deivce?!when im using unofficial pdamobiz roms on my prophet,after installing arabizer,the new message window becomes exactly as u said!after disbaling the arabizer it worked again.i hope this helps.

Spatzm said:
This reminds me of something yes. Could you please do these things and reply with answers to my questions ?
a) How much space do you have remaining on your device (how much free ram) ?
b) Go to Start -> Settings -> Installed Software or hows it called (the place where you see what software is installed) and tell me if the list is still there. Do you see your installed programms in the list or is it empty ?
http://www.choiceway.com/content/gsi/ppc_rem9.gif
c) Can you uninstall or install new software ? Please test with some small CAB file on your device.
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Hello Spatzm,
Thanks for your reply.
a) 23.85MB RAM left
b) ce-star suite v2.8 r2a
c) yes, i can uninstall and install new software.
--> this problem exists right after I sync the data and then press soft reset button. Is this the point? because whenever I press reset button, the SMS I wrote disappear even my pda has been just done a hardreset.

niloofari said:
is Arabizer installed on ur deivce?!when im using unofficial pdamobiz roms on my prophet,after installing arabizer,the new message window becomes exactly as u said!after disbaling the arabizer it worked again.i hope this helps.
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I dun think "Arabizer" is installed. Is it a program? or something about "Arab"?
Anyway, I can't find it from "Remove program". Tks.

scott4 said:
I dun think "Arabizer" is installed. Is it a program? or something about "Arab"?
Anyway, I can't find it from "Remove program". Tks.
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I hardreset my 818pro again, but never press the soft reset button, so far ---- OK!!! Why the reset button cause such problem on serveral version of ROM?
AKU2.3.1, AKU3.2, AKU3.3

Arabizer is a program which enables your device to show arabic fonts.when i install it on official roms,there is no problem but when i install it on pdamobiz roms then i have a blank new sms window.as i said,after disbaling the arabizer it works again.hope it helps.

niloofari said:
Arabizer is a program which enables your device to show arabic fonts.when i install it on official roms,there is no problem but when i install it on pdamobiz roms then i have a blank new sms window.as i said,after disbaling the arabizer it works again.hope it helps.
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There is no such program installed on my 818pro.
I am using AKU3.3 clean rom.

scott4 said:
There is no such program installed on my 818pro.
I am using AKU3.3 clean rom.
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Probably a ROM issue then. If you recall my reply above with the few questions. I initially had in mind that you might run into the security stuff (certification messup) issue but this is not the case.

scott4 said:
I hardreset my 818pro again, but never press the soft reset button, so far ---- OK!!! Why the reset button cause such problem on serveral version of ROM?
AKU2.3.1, AKU3.2, AKU3.3
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You have the answer right there. The registry is only written back periodically. After doing any changes you should not quickly follow up with a soft reset otherwise any new information will be lost. At the very least switch off and on again before doing a soft reset. This is not a ROM fault it is simply that writes to the registry are not carried out immediately.
If you want full details see here:
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=898&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
Mike

mikechannon said:
You have the answer right there. The registry is only written back periodically. After doing any changes you should not quickly follow up with a soft reset otherwise any new information will be lost. At the very least switch off and on again before doing a soft reset. This is not a ROM fault it is simply that writes to the registry are not carried out immediately.
If you want full details see here:
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=898&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
Mike
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Hello Mike,
Thanks alot for your explaination. The data cannot be written immediately, so that should not press soft reset button right after a SMS (text msg) is written. This question is answered well.
However. My main problem is why the SMS writing page became blank and never recover until a hardreset? I had this problem after sync PIM and then pressed soft reset button.

scott4, nice to meet u Do u come from HK?
I have the same problem before...
At that time , I used AKU2.? (forget XD) and ce-star too!!!
After hard reset for about a week.....the problem will appear again= =
SO i always reset -> blank -> reset -> blank -> loop....
until I upgrade my 818pro to 2.3, ...
and I don't use ce-star again....since it always hang= =
firstly i use monster chinese...but i found that the font is very ugly.....
so at last , i don't use monster chinese anymore, I only copy mingliu font from my winXP, and edit the registry to let my 818pro can read chinese....
Also , I download the Chinese input method from monster website, but without using monster XDDD
I don't know it's the problem of AKU? or ce-star? or just i'm very lucky.......
I want to upgrade to AKU3.3 too!!! many people say that it's very fast when you compare 3.3 to 2.3.........i wanna try it~>< But now....I'm afraid the SMS blank problem will appear again= =XD

it's the problem of cestar, i used to have the same problem with cestar installed, after uninstall it the problem was gone

Urgent Problem, Blue Angel Freezes

I upgraded my Blueangel to windows mobile 6 a couple of days ago, yesterday i was reset it. when it powered on i have the windows mobile 6 screen and nothings happens thereafter, it is not connection to activesync and i m not able to ROM Upgrade.
Please help me ASAP

read the wiki carefully
try a hard reset after and do the no+yes+yes ritual in the hard reset.. it should worked...
regards
adri

baybe it is because third party software you installed, it happened to me with the touchflo which replaced the touch.dll with another one for another device, also with HTC Plus today plugin

I had it after installing VBAR... you have to reset it and press the record and camera button, then clear the registry HIVE and press the mail button... it will be hard resetted but in wm6 you don't lose any data, just some settings and cabs...

Yeah, I got this problem too a few days ago.. annoying...
When I tried to back up my data using Sunnysoft backup manager, BA had to restart, and then it stuck in the WM6 page... ended up clearing the whole thing again using the no yes yes option...BA was able to start up on safe mode though... weird
I only had this problem once though....
Hmmm, interesting few people have this problems with different circumstances, however leading to the same problem...
is it really WM6 issue or is it 3rd party apps issue?

joseph.sapri said:
is it really WM6 issue or is it 3rd party apps issue?
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good question!
it just happened to me as well.... i had an almost fresh install of WM2006 (just downgraded, merged Extrom and upgraded again).
I installed some few cabs and eventhough it worked fine for a day, it then started to freeze while booting again and again....
i never had the problem before merging the rom though...

it happened to me also, after doing a soft reset using pbar. it ends up in the green screen with the microsoft logo without going any further. i've tried several soft resets after but it always ends up in that mode.
had to perform a hard reset and install my favorite apps again.

well maybe there are some incompatiblityes with those programs you mentioned, i have not use them my BA has the default apps (the posted cabs) Sprite Backup 6, Htc Home 1.5, Adobe Flash Lite and i have no problems at all

xplode said:
well maybe there are some incompatiblityes with those programs you mentioned, i have not use them my BA has the default apps (the posted cabs) Sprite Backup 6, Htc Home 1.5, Adobe Flash Lite and i have no problems at all
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have you installed all cabs you posted (cabs & cabs2)?
in what order?
whats Sprite Backup?
and which one is the HTC Home 1.5? (i only see HTC Home6?!?)
sorry, but i am really getting more and more confused...
regards,krz

Sprite backup is the best backup softweare IMO, yes all cabs (cabs and cabs2) Home6 is HTC Home 1.5

thank you very much for your answer, xplode!
there are three HTC HOME6 cabs out there:
1) Helmi HomePlug_Comp.cab: found in Helmi_C's WM2006 archive FLASH.zip
2) Helmi_HtcHome6_WM5_comp_sdkcert.cab: found in Helmi_C's WM2006 archive AddOn.rar
3) HOME6: an archive with two folders (WM5 + WM6) and HTCHome.cab
are there any differences?
is one better than the others?
i never found an answer to these questions...
regards,
krz

KRZTF said:
thank you very much for your answer, xplode!
there are three HTC HOME6 cabs out there:
1) Helmi HomePlug_Comp.cab: found in Helmi_C's WM2006 archive FLASH.zip
2) Helmi_HtcHome6_WM5_comp_sdkcert.cab: found in Helmi_C's WM2006 archive AddOn.rar
3) HOME6: an archive with two folders (WM5 + WM6) and HTCHome.cab
are there any differences?
is one better than the others?
i never found an answer to these questions...
regards,
krz
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Use Home6 if you want to be able to modify the HTC Home tabs from 6 (default) to less than 6..... this is the only one working....
With Helmi_HTCHome6.. it also works, but cannot modify the tabs......
never tried the other one....

OK OK I had this problem and it solved it without losing data. First i tried to reset the device , like 30 times with no success. Even with a hard reset it didnt work. So you just Put ur device in the booloader mode and then soft reset it and voila. i dont know if it's really the correct solution but it worked for me for 3 times when i had that dumb WM6 screen. It's because of Battery status software ( 100% sure )

BA Freezing
xplode said:
baybe it is because third party software you installed, it happened to me with the touchflo which replaced the touch.dll with another one for another device, also with HTC Plus today plugin
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Can anyone tell us which third parties programs that cause the freezing or which are compatible whit WM6. To used or avoid them.

Hi,
same problem here. I just installed the cabs from helmi (Thanks again!), the HTC Home (Helmi_HtcHome6_WM5_comp_sdkcert.cab), Acrobat reader and powerpoint (out of this cabs in the first message in the central BA6 Thread) and no additional software. I've re-installed it two times, but that doesn't help .
@ Xeon: Maybe a good work-around, I will give him a try,
UPDATE: @ XEON: Doesn't work for me
regards
Andreas

OK im again facing the same problem it seems my solution didnt work. As far as it seems to, i had to soft/hard reset more than 20 times to solve it. i dont get it. when i reset it the problem is still bla bla bla.. but when u leave it stuck for 10 mins and then reset it , it will work. the point is that after all , u dont need to format/clear registry. All u need is to keep trying. WEIRD [email protected]#[email protected]$#$

I keep having the problem after installing a new cab with a soft reset. The only way to get out of the WM6 screen is to go into bootloader and a soft reset. Just like Xeon said. However, I don't think it is the battery issue because if I just do a normal soft reset, it starts up fine. The problem arrives only when a soft reset is required to finish an installation from cab.

"De-Branding" HP 910c...

Hello folks,
I'm rather new to all of this, but I've come across a problem I can't seem to work out on my own.
I purchased a second-hand HP 910c, which had WM 6.1 but in French. It is also "branded" with Rogers software as well. I followed the instructions here to "flash" a ROM on the device which worked fine... but as soon as I boot up the device, it says that there are updates available for my device, and doesn't let me do anything else until I install them. Turns out the "updates" are in fact Roger's software installing on my device, and also UNINSTALLING other useful programs!
What I hope you can help me out with is - how do I disable that automatic update? I think it's called "IPAQ CUSTOMIZATION" or something like that?

Sounds like you've got some Canuck in your extended ROM! See if this works for you: hard reset, and as soon as you see the "updates available" screen come up, soft-reset. (It won't hurt your device, promise.) If I've guessed right, your device will restart but none of the Rogers software will be installed.

I tried that - it still comes up with "HP IPAQ CUSTOMIZATION" upon reboot.
Almost as if there's a file in a "Start-Up" type folder... but I can't go anywhere past that install screen to see...
Any ideas?

i think the only way to disable ipaq customization is to edit the rom initflashfiles.dat under OEM_Lang to take it out from start

keyx said:
i think the only way to disable ipaq customization is to edit the rom initflashfiles.dat under OEM_Lang to take it out from start
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Is there a tutorial around for that, or to get me started?
Also - I'm loading a ROM from here to change the language... does that matter?

gfinockio .. have you had any luck with this?

Yeah, sort of a fluke really. I updated to one of the 6.5 ROMs, didn't like it, so I went back to a 6.1 ROM from HP. That seemed to do it!
I think the key is to do a "full" flash of the ROM. You can't use the SDLoader method, because that just flashes the OS. Using the official update from HP, with the software, should work. There is a package somewhere on these forums that is a "hacked" version that ignores language as well. Take a search (I'd use "minutes" as a key, because that's in the thread!) and keep us updated.

What happens is the clean boot image has a link to the HP customisation program in the windows\startup folder. The way to avoid this program from running is hence to remove this link from the startup folder.
My way of doing this is to connect the iPaq to my PC before starting the iPaq. When the iPaq starts, the screen asking you to click to start the customisation will come up, but until you click, the program will not run yet. In the background, while you can't see it (the customisation screen won't give way to anything else), other programs including Activesync will still run. You can therefore, from the PC, explore into the startup folder and delete the link to the customisation program, all without clicking on the iPaq and hence before the customisation has a chance to run. You can then soft reset, and with the link removed from startup, customisation will not start.

chan200606 said:
What happens is the clean boot image has a link to the HP customisation program in the windows\startup folder. The way to avoid this program from running is hence to remove this link from the startup folder.
My way of doing this is to connect the iPaq to my PC before starting the iPaq. When the iPaq starts, the screen asking you to click to start the customisation will come up, but until you click, the program will not run yet. In the background, while you can't see it (the customisation screen won't give way to anything else), other programs including Activesync will still run. You can therefore, from the PC, explore into the startup folder and delete the link to the customisation program, all without clicking on the iPaq and hence before the customisation has a chance to run. You can then soft reset, and with the link removed from startup, customisation will not start.
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Yeah, I tried that too... but if you flash again (without doing a FULL flash), it might come back on next reset, or for sure on next flash.
The good news is - it IS possible to get rid of it.