Hello folks,
I'm rather new to all of this, but I've come across a problem I can't seem to work out on my own.
I purchased a second-hand HP 910c, which had WM 6.1 but in French. It is also "branded" with Rogers software as well. I followed the instructions here to "flash" a ROM on the device which worked fine... but as soon as I boot up the device, it says that there are updates available for my device, and doesn't let me do anything else until I install them. Turns out the "updates" are in fact Roger's software installing on my device, and also UNINSTALLING other useful programs!
What I hope you can help me out with is - how do I disable that automatic update? I think it's called "IPAQ CUSTOMIZATION" or something like that?
Sounds like you've got some Canuck in your extended ROM! See if this works for you: hard reset, and as soon as you see the "updates available" screen come up, soft-reset. (It won't hurt your device, promise.) If I've guessed right, your device will restart but none of the Rogers software will be installed.
I tried that - it still comes up with "HP IPAQ CUSTOMIZATION" upon reboot.
Almost as if there's a file in a "Start-Up" type folder... but I can't go anywhere past that install screen to see...
Any ideas?
i think the only way to disable ipaq customization is to edit the rom initflashfiles.dat under OEM_Lang to take it out from start
keyx said:
i think the only way to disable ipaq customization is to edit the rom initflashfiles.dat under OEM_Lang to take it out from start
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Is there a tutorial around for that, or to get me started?
Also - I'm loading a ROM from here to change the language... does that matter?
gfinockio .. have you had any luck with this?
Yeah, sort of a fluke really. I updated to one of the 6.5 ROMs, didn't like it, so I went back to a 6.1 ROM from HP. That seemed to do it!
I think the key is to do a "full" flash of the ROM. You can't use the SDLoader method, because that just flashes the OS. Using the official update from HP, with the software, should work. There is a package somewhere on these forums that is a "hacked" version that ignores language as well. Take a search (I'd use "minutes" as a key, because that's in the thread!) and keep us updated.
What happens is the clean boot image has a link to the HP customisation program in the windows\startup folder. The way to avoid this program from running is hence to remove this link from the startup folder.
My way of doing this is to connect the iPaq to my PC before starting the iPaq. When the iPaq starts, the screen asking you to click to start the customisation will come up, but until you click, the program will not run yet. In the background, while you can't see it (the customisation screen won't give way to anything else), other programs including Activesync will still run. You can therefore, from the PC, explore into the startup folder and delete the link to the customisation program, all without clicking on the iPaq and hence before the customisation has a chance to run. You can then soft reset, and with the link removed from startup, customisation will not start.
chan200606 said:
What happens is the clean boot image has a link to the HP customisation program in the windows\startup folder. The way to avoid this program from running is hence to remove this link from the startup folder.
My way of doing this is to connect the iPaq to my PC before starting the iPaq. When the iPaq starts, the screen asking you to click to start the customisation will come up, but until you click, the program will not run yet. In the background, while you can't see it (the customisation screen won't give way to anything else), other programs including Activesync will still run. You can therefore, from the PC, explore into the startup folder and delete the link to the customisation program, all without clicking on the iPaq and hence before the customisation has a chance to run. You can then soft reset, and with the link removed from startup, customisation will not start.
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Yeah, I tried that too... but if you flash again (without doing a FULL flash), it might come back on next reset, or for sure on next flash.
The good news is - it IS possible to get rid of it.
Related
Hi all,
First post and all that, so hi! I've been lurking for a few days, but thought i'd post this as a) I might be doing something wrong, and b) if i'm not, it might help someone..
Basically, I installed ozVGA last night, and it turned my exec into a nice-looking, albeit ineffective doorstop.
I may have done this completely wrong, let me know if i did, as i really would like a 640x480 res
This is what i did:
1. I had upgraded my exec to the latest ROM released by o2.
2. I downloaded ozVGA from http://oz.sciox.org/
3. I followed the instructions on the above URL.
a) "unzip this file VgaRes.zip and put its contents to the \windows directory"
b) After that you will need to unzip this file OzVGA053.zip and place OzVGA.exe file wherever you want on your PDA
4. I launched ozVGA
5. I pressed the ozVGA button, it rebooted, the o2 bubbles screen with the red writing stating the ROM versions etc. appeared, and the SELECT and EXIT buttons were visible at the bottom. These were in the 640x480 resolution! Yey!
6. But...it stayed on that screen for a long, long time. It would not progress from that screen no matter what I tried, or how long i waited.
7. in the end, i had to do a factory reset, then install the new o2 rom again.
So... did i do something wrong :S I hope i did - as i would really like to have my exec in 640x480!
Cheers for any help
You need the VGA res files that are on the xda-developers ftp. The ones on the OzVGA site don't work IIRC.
You didn't need to install the ROM again. A normal hard-reset would have been fine.
Thanks for replying rilot.
Are the files you mention at the start of this thread?:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32217
If so, they dont actually seem to be on the FTP site.
Also, in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37448
"Soft resets result in it powering backon, but stopping at the boot screen, after displaying the ROM versions in red text. "
The poster also says: "I had just installed OzVGA, and was testing it when this occurred, but that is probably just a coincidence"
Do you think this could be related? Just wondering
Grab them here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=7513
I've never had any problem with running my Exec in VGA mode. I don't actually use OzVGA though. I hack the registry manually.
Those files bricked my m5000
I just downloaded the zip archive from your link, unzipped, copied the windows file folder contents to the windows folder on the spv m5000(orange switzerland), and the ozVGA.exe to the programs folder, then started the .exe.
Result: the well known imitation of a brick. The thing booted to the orange screen with the red version info, then stayed there with two buttons showing at the bottom of the screen. These buttons did show the small VGA font, but none of them caused anything to happen. Soft resets didn't help either.
A hard reset worked (without re-installing the ROM) and I'm now back to where I was before.
Has anyone with an orange device had any other(better) experiences with ozVGA?
Re: Those files bricked my m5000
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Result: the well known imitation of a brick. The thing booted to the orange screen with the red version info, then stayed there with two buttons showing at the bottom of the screen. These buttons did show the small VGA font, but none of them caused anything to happen. Soft resets didn't help either.
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Right, that's 2 deaths from ozvga... if this can be confirmed, is it worth adding a sticky on this forum or something?
Did you run the signing app (sdkcerts.cab) after coying the files?
If not, that's your problem.
rilot said:
Did you run the signing app (sdkcerts.cab) after coying the files?
If not, that's your problem.
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ahh
it's not mentioned until the 3rd page http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...der=asc&highlight=sdkcerts+cab+ozvga&start=50
which is why i didnt see it :roll:
Right then - before i try it again, is there a way to back up *everything* on my universal? So i dont have to go through the misery of setting everything up again if it goes wrong?
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rilot said:
Right then - before i try it again, is there a way to back up *everything* on my universal? So i dont have to go through the misery of setting everything up again if it goes wrong?
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Sunnysoft's Backup Manager works well for me. But don't rely on restore from a backup after a ROM upgrade, since you will be overwriting those newly upgraded files with possibly older versions. Another useful trick for those difficult to configure apps, is a registry export.
As for the OzVGA glitch. Yep, the culprit is not running the signing app (sdkcerts.cab) after coying the files. Forgot to do this once myself, just at the end of re-installing everything after a ROM upgrade , so had to start again. :evil:
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Re: Those files bricked my m5000
yezzer said:
Rapax said:
Result: the well known imitation of a brick. The thing booted to the orange screen with the red version info, then stayed there with two buttons showing at the bottom of the screen. These buttons did show the small VGA font, but none of them caused anything to happen. Soft resets didn't help either.
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Right, that's 2 deaths from ozvga... if this can be confirmed, is it worth adding a sticky on this forum or something?
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Weird enough, but after the hard reset, I tried again last night, and this time it worked. Beautiful VGA bliss on my m5000. A million thanks to the authors.
Now I can hardly wait for the international (german) version of vj555's BigPhone.
So just to check (before I end up hard resetting from not following instructions!) In the VGA files I downloaded from this thread, it contains ozVGA.exe, some files that need copying to my windows directory and sdkcerts.cab.
What order do I do things? I would first copy the windows files and the ozVGA.exe, then run the sdkcers.cab I take it i then need to soft reset. Where do I put ozVGA.exe? Does it just perform a registry hack or does it need to be placed in the Startup folder so it runs every time I soft reset?
Any help would be great!
Cheers
Fin
1. Copy files
2. Run SDKCerts.cab
3. Run OzVGA
4. Soft reset
OzVGA performs registry hacks so doesn't need to be placed in start-up.
Thanks for your help. Will try it tonight!
Unable to copy files in Windows directory
rilot said:
1. Copy files
2. Run SDKCerts.cab
3. Run OzVGA
4. Soft reset
OzVGA performs registry hacks so doesn't need to be placed in start-up.
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Stuck at Step1. None of .dlls or gifs that already exist can be overwritten!
2. I am able to copy SDKCerts.cab in the WIndows folder and run it.
Tried a soft reset as well. But still can not do the step 1.
Please advise.
to all,
look at new Helmi3.5 rom
ozvga is integratted
very easy to use and if necessary to revert back to qvga
Those who stuck at the boot screen, suspect that it is not properly install.
Only way out is hard reset, you will lose everything if you do not have the habit of backup.
You need to copy the *.96.* files into Windows directory. Think Windows hang when seaching for this files.
yezzer said:
Hi all,
First post and all that, so hi! I've been lurking for a few days, but thought i'd post this as a) I might be doing something wrong, and b) if i'm not, it might help someone..
Basically, I installed ozVGA last night, and it turned my exec into a nice-looking, albeit ineffective doorstop.
I may have done this completely wrong, let me know if i did, as i really would like a 640x480 res
This is what i did:
1. I had upgraded my exec to the latest ROM released by o2.
2. I downloaded ozVGA from http://oz.sciox.org/
3. I followed the instructions on the above URL.
a) "unzip this file VgaRes.zip and put its contents to the \windows directory"
b) After that you will need to unzip this file OzVGA053.zip and place OzVGA.exe file wherever you want on your PDA
4. I launched ozVGA
5. I pressed the ozVGA button, it rebooted, the o2 bubbles screen with the red writing stating the ROM versions etc. appeared, and the SELECT and EXIT buttons were visible at the bottom. These were in the 640x480 resolution! Yey!
6. But...it stayed on that screen for a long, long time. It would not progress from that screen no matter what I tried, or how long i waited.
7. in the end, i had to do a factory reset, then install the new o2 rom again.
So... did i do something wrong :S I hope i did - as i would really like to have my exec in 640x480!
Cheers for any help
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I see your post is sent WELL after I've published the tutorial on all these questions (see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1197&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ). Please make sure you follow my latest articles; they are all cross-posted to the General forum here at XDA-Dev.
Menneisyys said:
I see your post is sent WELL after I've published the tutorial on all these questions (see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1197&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ). Please make sure you follow my latest articles; they are all cross-posted to the General forum here at XDA-Dev.
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Is he supposed to apologize for not following your articles and having the nerve to ask questions? Get off your high horse, seriously.
OzVGA v0.53
Noting the cumbersome method of installing/uninstalling OzVGA - I just decided to make a CAB Installer from the resources listed in this thread.
Also, given the fact that http://oz.sciox.org seems to be offline or maybe defaced, the attached archive might become even more relevant.
The attachment, OzVGA v0.53.zip, contains 2 CAB files:
1. OzVGA + DLLs
2. SdkCerts for DLLs
It's advisable to run the CABs in the order above.
hi,
i am a former palm user and proud new owner of a spv m600. i have been surfing around but still am a little lost.
how does one delete one of the standard programs delivered with the device. for example, orange has delivered internet explorer or zip. i would like to delete them and add a different program, but i do not see them in the unistall list.
how is it done ? thanks in advance,
scott
u cant, those files are in rom and belong to the operation system.
You can possibly
Check out this link. You have to do a hard reset first
http://wiki.howardforums.com/pocketpc/index.php/Selectively_Bypassing_the_Extended_ROM
Device manufacturers are beginning to place unnecessary third party software preloaded onto PDA's, the same way computers come from the factory. Unfortunately, this new software is often buggy and of questionable usefulness. Also, there is no clean way to remove some of this third party software once it is installed. The best way to keep it from making your device buggy is never to install it in the first place.
Unfortunately, since many devices have no way to edit the Extended ROM since it is locked, we need a way around it. This How to details how we can get around the Extended ROM by soft resetting before it gets a chance to install and then selectively running the cab files with a nifty little program called Total Commander.
1. The first step to selectively bypassing your Extended ROM is to download Total Commander from here:
http://ghisler.fileburst.com/ce/tcmdpocketarm.cab
You need to take this file and place it on a storage card on your device. You can do this by syncing your device, opening up my computer double clicking on mobile device, double clicking on My Windows Mobile-Based Device, and then Double Clicking on the Storage Card. Copy the CAB file there, but DO NOT INSTALL IT ON YOUR SYSTEM.
2. The next step is hard reseting your device. Since all devices are different, I can't explain how to do this precisely. On my Windows Mobile 5.0 device, I just goto Programs then tap Clear Storage, and watch the device reset. After it resets, the Windows Mobile menu will come up and ask you to align the screen, teach you how to copy and paste. When it ends, a Screen will come up and tell you that configuration is finished and tell you to tap to continue. Now pay attention, timing is crucial. As soon as you tap to continue, you need to soft reset your device before the device customization menu gets a chance to install. You don't want the extended rom to begin installing.
3. Now after the device hard resets, you should get the today screen. If you don't and you're back in the align screen section then you should complete it again and soft reset a little bit later than when you started. If it says device customizing then soft reset immediately, before anything gets installed. From the Today Screen you need to goto Start>Programs>File Explorer. In File Explorer, navigate to your storage card and run the total commander cab. Total Commander should now install. After it's installed, goto Start>Programs and open it.
4. Now type "\Extended_ROM\" (match exact case) into the location bar of total commander to make your Extended_ROM suddenly appear. From this screen you will see the cab files . Choose the CAB files you would like to install. You have now bypassed the Extended ROM. You have some choices now. If you are like me and don't want specific programs to install such as antivirus, skype and backgammon. Run every cab, but those specific cabs. They won't install and muck up your system and you will be all set. If you want to do research and only install the cabs you need you can do that too. Sites like XDA-Developers often keeps lists of all cab files found in device extended roms and what each file does so you can decide what you want and what you don't.
Hope this helps you out
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/04/28/586453.aspx
On the WM Team Blog they address the reaction to the nearly worthless battery icon replacing the clock. Good news is that ROMs using AKU2.2 and later will allow you to add the clock back in, bad news is that the current JasJar ROM (1.30.76) doesn't seem to have the 2.2 release of AKU.
Can people with other carrier's ROMs check to see if the registry edit they provide works with your ROM?
The egistry edit is to add a DWORD titled ShowTitleBarClock with the value of 1 in the HKEYLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Shell location.
Didn't work for me
Doesn't work in the latest dopod rom 1.30.111 either...
The message on the MS site is from yesterday, and the guy is speaking of a "further release", i think AKU 2.2 don't exist yet
btw: isn't working on my wizard too
AKU 2.2.1 exists...
this is the nessesery file, you need to replace the existing one with this one (windows directory)
and add
[HKEYLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Shell]
"ShowTitleBarClock"=dword:1
this is only for AKU 2.0!
!!!Attention: Make a backup and read through this tropic!!!
Problems with Universal roms!!!!
Perhaps related to the certification. Plz someone with removed certification try this... and post the results.
RE
The shell32.exe file in my QTEK 9000 is located in ROM something which you cannot copy out.
Does a soft reset reverts back to original battery icon if I'll to replace with the attached shell32.exe file?
After the battery icon is replaced by the clock icon, can I add a date to it also using any known method to put a date on top of the clock?
I believe a hard reset will definitely reverts back to the original battery icon, right?
Thanks
only a hard reset reverts back to the original.
add a date: I think so... not tested, but it should work.
I have a special rom where it is possible to overwrite system files, but It could be difficult to replase shell32.exe on a normal rom and I cant make a cab, because I dont know how to sign that.
plz someone with the knowledge about that make a cab.
don't bother, because even if you replace the shell32.dll, it wont restart, displaying the keyboard and getting stuck there.
You will have to hard reset and restore from a backup to get back your device.
A word of warning - back up before trying this. It hosed my universal. It would not even finish booting, and I had to hard reset.
Surur
Ok, I realy sorry.
It works for me...
Himalaya (rom based on 2.00a)
On my ROM (Qtek latest) in \Shell\Taskbar there's a regkey LimitedClock set to 1. If I set that to 0, the clock will at least display everywhere except Today, both in landscape and portrait modes. With it set to 0 as per standard, the clock only shows up while in apps *and* landscape, apps/portrait it doesn't. As long as the Today screen time&date plugin is switched on, this means you've always got the clock. BTW, needs a softreset to activate, Taskbar settings apparently are only read on first startup.
bepe said:
Ok, I realy sorry.
It works for me...
Himalaya (rom based on 2.00a)
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I'm sure you realise this is a universal forum? You should edit your post to remove your file before somebody else zaps it's unit.
I dont think so, because the os is the same.
My rom is not realy Himalaya, it is a ported wizard os and only the drivers of Himalaya.
So the file should work on all WM5 devices, perhaps the problem is related to the removed certification on Him 2.0 rom's.
(This file is from an Atom rom not Himalaya)
But you are right, I edited the post.
Disablesecurity.cab, replace shell32.exe with new, softreset
Hangs at boot with the soft keyboard superimposed over the boot screen. Hard reset to fix.
Basically, avoid this for a while.
......or use Wisbar Advance 2 and you have your clock back on the Today screen....
Cheers
hrb
JasperJanssen said:
Disablesecurity.cab, replace shell32.exe with new, softreset
Hangs at boot with the soft keyboard superimposed over the boot screen. Hard reset to fix.
Basically, avoid this for a while.
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I can confirm this - same result on the latest O2 AKU2 Rom.
Cheers,
Steve.
Same on the Dutch SPV M3000 AKU2 ROM. Phone doesn't reboot.. ..had to hard reset...
JasperJanssen said:
On my ROM (Qtek latest) in \Shell\Taskbar there's a regkey LimitedClock set to 1. *zap*
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You can access that feature simply by going to the date/time settings and enabling "Display the clock on the title bar in all programs" on the |More| tab.
O2 xda Atom have AKU2.2.1 and it really works no more battery icon.
bepe said:
AKU 2.2.1 exists...
this is the nessesery file, you need to replace the existing one with this one (windows directory)
and add
[HKEYLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Shell]
"ShowTitleBarClock"=dword:1
this is only for AKU 2.0!
!!!Attention: Make a backup and read through this tropic!!!
Problems with Universal roms!!!!
Perhaps related to the certification. Plz someone with removed certification try this... and post the results.
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Hello,
It is my first post on this forum.
Yesterday, I unlocked my frensh SPVM3000 (Wizard) and tried to replace my "shell32.exe" by the "shell32.exe" downloadable on this post.
It was a BAD idea! My SPV starting crashed because it was for Universal smartphone. I used the button sequence to re-install the original software.
Have you an address where I can download the "shell32.exe" of the Wizard AKU 2.2 software?
Thanks for your help.
Seb...
WMDC icon
Installation:
1 - install the attached cab file: "_light" means it only has the full color versions of the icon, low-colour icons have been removed to save space;
2 - remove the pocket pc driver: connect the pocket pc to the computer, right click 'Computer' on the start menu, select Manage, select Device Manager and expand Portable Devices category, right click PocketPC and select Uninstall;
3 - disconnect and reconnect the device to the computer for Vista to reinstall the driver and copy the icon from the Pocket PC
And you're done!
If the old icon is still displayed, reboot.
previews attached
[070622]UPDATE: black v3, wm6 default today screen
thanks to mrailing for the tutorial on pdaphonehome, plenty of icons for other devices and other info available there.
Works great !!! TY
impecável
Bem haja,
Aprt
Great Work !!!!
unique! a more personalized Trinity and Vista experience
Nice to see some people liked this.
I was having an issue with the Vista cache the other day, a test icon I made was a little bit reluctant about leaving the icon cache, so that I had a mixed icon([email protected] [email protected] [email protected]).
The only way to completely rebuild the Vista icon cache is to change the DPI, reboot, change them back to the original value and reboot again.
Glad you like it
I am glad everyone is benefiting from it. If you are looking for more icons, there are 25 different icons in the original thread.
Glad the information was helpful.
Here's my version of the P3600 with a drop shadow.
Unzip, copy to the \windows folder and reinstall the drivers.
Who has a good looking MDA VARIO II for me please?
And not slid open like my Avatar but cool like the trinity here
Hoho....Really really cool...Great Job!
updated the black icon
Thanks Apoc,
Great job...
nice!
Apoc said:
Nice to see some people liked this.
I was having an issue with the Vista cache the other day, a test icon I made was a little bit reluctant about leaving the icon cache, so that I had a mixed icon([email protected] [email protected] [email protected]).
The only way to completely rebuild the Vista icon cache is to change the DPI, reboot, change them back to the original value and reboot again.
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Hey there!
Does this thing work with WM6? I had some troubles with another device using WM6, sync.ico was read only and hidden so could not have been overwritten. Can anyone confirm this works on WM6?
tnyynt said:
Hey there!
Does this thing work with WM6? I had some troubles with another device using WM6, sync.ico was read only and hidden so could not have been overwritten. Can anyone confirm this works on WM6?
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It does work on WM6. You can always overwrite files in ROM, a new 'temporary'(will stay there until hard-reset/deletion) file can be created and it'll be seen as the only one on the device, you may have to use resco explorer or copy via activesync for that tho. And have you followed those steps enumerated on the 1st post? especially the second one.
thanks for so much...
Please help. I have tried everything with no success. I have tried uninstalling, rebooting.
I have Windows Vista x64 and WM6. Somehow windows Vista has a cache of the generic icon somewhere. Where can I delete it? (I have tried the uninstallation of the usb device).
When you do a factory format, it installs the windows mobile, then the phone starts normally and locks for a bit and starts installing the SE programs. Is there a way to halt the automatic initial installation of these programs ? I just want to see whether my phone will be faster and crash less if none of these initial programs were installed on top of win mo. oh yeah, I was hoping to do this without changing the original rom installed. any idea ?
EDIT: found my answer just hit the reset button when it wants to do the installation.
EDIT2: NO, that doesn't work, read post #3. Still looking for a way to do it.
so how is it? any good?
i take it you dont have any pannels and its just a standard win mo device and how is the speed?
I've just tried that method and it doesn't work. I can't believe some people would just post you solutions that they have never tried -_- (I read this solution in another thread and then posted it in my edit).
Anyways, anyone knows of another way to do it ? and have tried it?
do you know HOW the initial setup works? what registry keys or files are used to control the setup? And where are the cab-files located after hard reset? that might offer some possibilities.
a simple soft-reset before the setup launches is not enough, after the reset it is lauched again. After the setup is complete, it is NOT launched again, so there must be some reg-key or file, that is set at the end of the initial setup. if you can set this manualy, it may stop the setup.
another way might be to remove the cabs completely, so they cant be executed.
the only working way I KNOW is to reflash the rom completely. that works
I dont like this way because its kind of risky and there may be problems with the warranty. But i am sure, you have to modify the flash-rom-content anyway to stop the setup. And i like the branding-stuff even less
I don't mind reflashing it, but I don't have the expertise.
I just wish someone would release a clean lite rom and let us install the cabs separately, without any modifications (so no registry tweaks or anything).