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I just discoverd that I cannot modify the extended rom (using Total Commander, etc.) How does one unlock it so tht it may be modified?
Thanks,
Frank

fmcgirt said:
I just discoverd that I cannot modify the extended rom (using Total Commander, etc.) How does one unlock it so tht it may be modified?
Thanks,
Frank
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It can, just try again anad again, i did it on my 4th attemps
Cheers!

Thanks for the response but I haven't had any success after several tries. I tried installing the Wizard unlock cab file and afterwards with Total Commander, I can reset the Read Only bit on all the files and copy the files to my SD card. However, I am unable to delete any files. They appear to be deleted but come back after a soft reset. I would like to especially get rid of all the operator settings files. The rest of the stuff like Skype, Anti Virus and Backgammon I can get rid of using Settings>Remove Programs.
Frank

Isn't "ROM" short for "read only memory"?

hi, I am using Buzz's unlocker for Wizard... it made the ExtROM visible but still it is read only
I need to find how can I delete and add files to it.
Any challenging minds out there?

Total commander does not work with the jamin in my case anyway.
Tried several time with no results.

shahzadkhan15nov said:
hi, I am using Buzz's unlocker for Wizard... it made the ExtROM visible but still it is read only
I need to find how can I delete and add files to it.
Any challenging minds out there?
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hi,
unlocker for wizard is not mine...
buzz

...well, if anyone can give me a dump of Prophet's bootloader + clean registry export, i can take a look at it..
buzz

Buzz,
Thanks for the great offer.
I can give you the clean reg but how can i get you the first part, bootloader thingie?
Regards

I have used the Wizard Extended ROM unlock program to unlock the ROM on my Prophet. I now have a copy of the Extended ROM on my SD Card. I'm not concerned about erasing the Extended ROM files, I just don't wan them installed, so I did a Hard Reset and just when it says that it will start installing the additional prorams in 3 seconds, I did a soft reset.
OK, now I have a Prophet without extended ROM. I can now install the stuff that I want.
Most of the cab files I've figured out, Does anyone know what the following extended ROM cabs do? This is from the latest Imate Jamin ROM.
Default_CAAVPPC_IMEI_2.6.77_range.CAB
Default_Imate_PPC_SA_V5.5.03.cab
Default_MP_Shortcut_MMS1_JAVA_VOICE_CV_051213.CAB
Default_PP_TSK.CAB
Default_PP_UAString.CAB
Default_PT_Signed_IconDll.sa.CAB
Default_PT_Signed_Patch_SD.sa.CAB
Thanks heaps,
Matterhorn

Default_CAAVPPC_IMEI_2.6.77_range.CAB is the anti-virus app which used to play havoc in slowing down the KJAM. Maybe this version is better but I uninstalled it using Remove Programs. About the rest I am not sure. At least you don't have Skype, backgammon and the Operator Settings files so I expect you will gain a fair amount.
Frank

you can use wince cab manager to see the content of the cab file.

Still nothing? Guess I will go the way of Matterhorn when I need to do a hard reset. Several others have not installed the Extended ROM at all and have reported significant speedup in the JAMin.
Frank

That would be me. I haven't installed one thing off the extended rom and my speed is really pretty good. You can see a video review at the link below to compare the m600 and the jamin (with no extended rom). Keep in mind I don't use mms, skype, antivirus anyway....so no big deal to leave off the ext rom. I also use adobe and don't need the clearview .pdf. Hope the video helps
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=849592

Thanks, Mike. I don't use the stuff either except MMS once in a while but can just as easily use email for that. I presume Voice Dial is in the Extended Rom but rather have MS VC anyway and things like Connection Manager, Messaging, etc., that I want are not in the Extended ROM so I should be fine.
Now to find time to do a hard reset and re-install my apps.
Frank

Everyone has diffrent issues, I was able to delete the files from there (verified by refreshing the dir, and I recieved no read only error) but I was unable to write files to it, which I thought was very strange, I am using APA_ext_rom_unlock.exe and it does NOT give me the success msg it acts like it hasnt even ran. I updated my ROM to teh test one that was floating auround 2.8.7 whatever, and I realized too late that aWizard has no way to reflash teh extended ROM so I am without all my Cingular apps and I have all the 2.8.7 Extended rom stuff with the 1.8 Cingular OS ROM which I reverted back to. Any suggestions how I can replace my extended ROM ?

any luck so far?
Hi guys,
Are we getting any hope/luck to unlock Ext ROM for JAMin/Prophet?

I don't know how you guys are doing it. I have tried several times to delete items in my extended rom using total commander, at least 10 times and the result is the same. After the hard reset all that was deleted was re-installed after the reset.
I have contacted TC a while ago, and have not heard anything, maybe they are working on it.

Just curious....as I'm new to this ext rom stuff....but why don't you just "not install" the ext rom. Then use gsfinder to install whichever .cabs you want? If any? Just curious as I may be missing something. :roll:

mikewchandler said:
Just curious....as I'm new to this ext rom stuff....but why don't you just "not install" the ext rom. Then use gsfinder to install whichever .cabs you want? If any? Just curious as I may be missing something. :roll:
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No, I think the end result would be pretty much the same. For me I would like an Extended ROM for the JAMin that includes exacty what I want installed - no Backgammon, AntiVirus, Smart Dialing, Skype and a single Operator Settings file for TMO USA. Then when I hard reset I don't have to mess with anything else, just let it go. I had my KJAM setup that way and I would like the JAMin to be the same. I would also be as close to an OEM install as I can get (without the junk) so I don't have to worry about proper default settings not being there because of some file I didn't install or installed in the wrong order. Having said all this and thinking about it more I am sure you would get to the same point doing your procedure and then installing the required .cab files in the proper order.
Now I have a question:
Wonder what would happen if I did a hard reset, then did the soft reset to stop the Ext ROM install, installed the required .cab files in order, soft reset and then restored from a Sprite BU file. Wonder would I be restoring any files that could cause problems due to an imcomplete ROM install? I guess I will have to try that first since I do hate to re-install a bunch of apps and especially have to re-enter all the reg codes.
Frank

How to delete everything and install a clean version of WM5?

Hi,
I'm really tired of debranding my MDA pro after a hard-reset and I would like to do the following:
-delete everything on my device (use the extended rom unlocker to unlock)
- install a "fresh" WM5
- configure the system
- create a complete backup of the system like the Norton-Ghost in the pc-world
Is that possible, and if so, how?
Where can I get a clean version of WM5?
Has anyone of you already done so?
How can I create a complete backup of the system?
I know that are a lot of questions and I'm thankful for every hint
C ya,
Elias
Shame on T-Mobile for the annoying branding!!!

Re: How to delete everything and install a clean version of
eli_d said:
Where can I get a clean version of WM5?
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I believe you can achieve this from the provided ROM itself by unlocking then deleting the ExtROM followed by a hard reset. You can then use other hacks from this site to delete or replace the splash screen and etc... to clean it up some more.

surely if you delete the extended rom and then do a hard reset the system wont work as youll be missing the majority of the installation, there are Cooked ROMS on the FTP site which people have created which I guess you can try at your own risk. I tried to remove all of the tmobile branding but found that they'd tied in some of crucial configuration after the branding process so when I soft booted before rebranding the XDA was only half complete... I too would like a good clean install without branding, unfortunatley I have to use the tmobile rom with its gay pink colours so that I can use their blackberry client.?

eli_d said:
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- create a complete backup of the system like the Norton-Ghost in the pc-world
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There are various programs out there that allow you to make a backup of your phone. Currently, I'm using BackupManager which generate an EXE files that you can save into your SD card such that you can restore your phone without having to reinstall the backupsoftware itself. I know that there are better software out there you can use. I think they call it phone clone or something, which uses your pc to store and clone the phone.
tonyb15re said:
... I tried to remove all of the tmobile branding but found that they'd tied in some of crucial configuration after the branding process so when I soft booted before rebranding the XDA was only half complete...
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I have relatively the same problem, that my phone doesn't support MMS. However, if you were to extract the ext rom (by any means) to get the CAB files within, you can choose which to install or not. I think you pretty much need to guess what each of them means.

Thank you for your answers
I think I'm gonna try the backup-manager.
Now I wll start another post "Avoid T-mobile branding by install Jasjar or Dopod-ROM?"

AKU2.2 will re-enable clock in Title Bar

http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/04/28/586453.aspx
On the WM Team Blog they address the reaction to the nearly worthless battery icon replacing the clock. Good news is that ROMs using AKU2.2 and later will allow you to add the clock back in, bad news is that the current JasJar ROM (1.30.76) doesn't seem to have the 2.2 release of AKU.
Can people with other carrier's ROMs check to see if the registry edit they provide works with your ROM?
The egistry edit is to add a DWORD titled ShowTitleBarClock with the value of 1 in the HKEYLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Shell location.

Didn't work for me

Doesn't work in the latest dopod rom 1.30.111 either...

The message on the MS site is from yesterday, and the guy is speaking of a "further release", i think AKU 2.2 don't exist yet
btw: isn't working on my wizard too

AKU 2.2.1 exists...
this is the nessesery file, you need to replace the existing one with this one (windows directory)
and add
[HKEYLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Shell]
"ShowTitleBarClock"=dword:1
this is only for AKU 2.0!
!!!Attention: Make a backup and read through this tropic!!!
Problems with Universal roms!!!!
Perhaps related to the certification. Plz someone with removed certification try this... and post the results.

RE
The shell32.exe file in my QTEK 9000 is located in ROM something which you cannot copy out.
Does a soft reset reverts back to original battery icon if I'll to replace with the attached shell32.exe file?
After the battery icon is replaced by the clock icon, can I add a date to it also using any known method to put a date on top of the clock?
I believe a hard reset will definitely reverts back to the original battery icon, right?
Thanks

only a hard reset reverts back to the original.
add a date: I think so... not tested, but it should work.
I have a special rom where it is possible to overwrite system files, but It could be difficult to replase shell32.exe on a normal rom and I cant make a cab, because I dont know how to sign that.
plz someone with the knowledge about that make a cab.

don't bother, because even if you replace the shell32.dll, it wont restart, displaying the keyboard and getting stuck there.
You will have to hard reset and restore from a backup to get back your device.

A word of warning - back up before trying this. It hosed my universal. It would not even finish booting, and I had to hard reset.
Surur

Ok, I realy sorry.
It works for me...
Himalaya (rom based on 2.00a)

On my ROM (Qtek latest) in \Shell\Taskbar there's a regkey LimitedClock set to 1. If I set that to 0, the clock will at least display everywhere except Today, both in landscape and portrait modes. With it set to 0 as per standard, the clock only shows up while in apps *and* landscape, apps/portrait it doesn't. As long as the Today screen time&date plugin is switched on, this means you've always got the clock. BTW, needs a softreset to activate, Taskbar settings apparently are only read on first startup.

bepe said:
Ok, I realy sorry.
It works for me...
Himalaya (rom based on 2.00a)
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I'm sure you realise this is a universal forum? You should edit your post to remove your file before somebody else zaps it's unit.

I dont think so, because the os is the same.
My rom is not realy Himalaya, it is a ported wizard os and only the drivers of Himalaya.
So the file should work on all WM5 devices, perhaps the problem is related to the removed certification on Him 2.0 rom's.
(This file is from an Atom rom not Himalaya)
But you are right, I edited the post.

Disablesecurity.cab, replace shell32.exe with new, softreset
Hangs at boot with the soft keyboard superimposed over the boot screen. Hard reset to fix.
Basically, avoid this for a while.

......or use Wisbar Advance 2 and you have your clock back on the Today screen....
Cheers
hrb

JasperJanssen said:
Disablesecurity.cab, replace shell32.exe with new, softreset
Hangs at boot with the soft keyboard superimposed over the boot screen. Hard reset to fix.
Basically, avoid this for a while.
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I can confirm this - same result on the latest O2 AKU2 Rom.
Cheers,
Steve.

Same on the Dutch SPV M3000 AKU2 ROM. Phone doesn't reboot.. ..had to hard reset...

JasperJanssen said:
On my ROM (Qtek latest) in \Shell\Taskbar there's a regkey LimitedClock set to 1. *zap*
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You can access that feature simply by going to the date/time settings and enabling "Display the clock on the title bar in all programs" on the |More| tab.

O2 xda Atom have AKU2.2.1 and it really works no more battery icon.

bepe said:
AKU 2.2.1 exists...
this is the nessesery file, you need to replace the existing one with this one (windows directory)
and add
[HKEYLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Shell]
"ShowTitleBarClock"=dword:1
this is only for AKU 2.0!
!!!Attention: Make a backup and read through this tropic!!!
Problems with Universal roms!!!!
Perhaps related to the certification. Plz someone with removed certification try this... and post the results.
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Hello,
It is my first post on this forum.
Yesterday, I unlocked my frensh SPVM3000 (Wizard) and tried to replace my "shell32.exe" by the "shell32.exe" downloadable on this post.
It was a BAD idea! My SPV starting crashed because it was for Universal smartphone. I used the button sequence to re-install the original software.
Have you an address where I can download the "shell32.exe" of the Wizard AKU 2.2 software?
Thanks for your help.
Seb...

JAMin + changing ROM

Hi Guys i own a imate JAMin that i bought and it has telstra branding on the phone/pda, it isnt locked to this carrier, but i need to get rid of there loaded stuff on the pda
what i need to know is a few things if possible please
1. is there a walk through somewhere on how to change the rom to a standard one
2. where can i download a new rom from
3. can i screw it up bad ?
any other help would be great
Thanks
t0ne

Easy, just download Total commander from http://www.ghisler.com/
Open it up and at the top type \Extended_Rom
This will show the contents of your extended rom, you will see loads of things but the ones you want are the cabs relating to your provider. Or all providers actually, Delete allt the cabs that dont start with Default_ these are what brand your device when you hard reset.
Now just hard reset, it will isntall all the normal stuff but will leave you with a brand free jamin.

Hi dannyoneill,
thanks for the program, only problem i have is how do i add the jamin to it so that i can see it and do what u r saying ?
thanks

You need to download and install Windows CE FS plug-in. You will then see a mobile device entry in the file window. I recommend dragging it to the toolbar so you will always have a button for convenient access (total commander can open files directly form the device).
Also I don't remember it now, but if you search this forum there is a registry tweak that will unhide your extended ROM so you can use it for extra storage space (and manipulate files in it using regular explorer both on device and PC). You can use the free PHM Registry editor to apply the tweak.

Just follow the instructions to install total commander onto your PPC. Make sure you click the link to the mobile version and not the desktop version.

thanks dannyoneill, got it working..
jsut a few other questions if u dont mind
im in the \Extended_Rom folder with the default stuff but the telstra stuff i want to get rid of has Default_Telstra_australia_SA_UN_V2.20.CAB and also Default_Australia_Telstra.CAB as the file names, will these be ok to delete still ?
thanks

Yes, you can delete them.
If you really want everything here is safe to delete. What it usually contains are patches like driver updates, applications like the backgammon, antivirus and Skype.
Below is taken from another post, its a little out of date but still good to see whats what. For me. I removed all the operators apart from my own (as it doesnt brand) plus got rid of backgammon, antivirus (totally useless on a PPC) and skype as the latest version is better (especially if you apply the registry fix to get it working)
Autorun.exe
Default_Backgammon_PPC_IMAM001.CAB >>> Backgammon
Default_CAAVPPC_IMEI_Wiz_range.CAB >>> THE DREADED ANTI VIRUS STUFF
Default_CAB-shortcut-CDL-08Sep05.CAB >>> Clearview PDF
Default_cdl_wwe_version.cab >>> Some Imate stuff (Harmless)
Default_ie_view.sa.cab >>> Some Imate stuff (Harmless)
Default_Imate_PPC_SA_V5.5.03.cab >>> Some Imate stuff (Harmless)
Default_SkypeForPocketPCnonxScale.CAB >>> SKYPE FOR NONE XSCALE !!!
Default_SmartDialing_enable_0915_signed.CAB >>> The pretty Dialer and smart-dialer stuff
Install_Tsk.exe >>> This Installs all the “Default_” Files
Setup.exe >>> This allows for Selection of the “Operator Settings”
These are the “Settings” which is not needed at least in the GULF STATES
KPN_Nederland.CAB
MTN_SouthAfrica.CAB
O2_UK_Contract.CAB
O2_UK_PAYG.CAB
Optus_Settings.CAB
Orange_Nederland.CAB
Orange_UK_Contract.CAB
Orange_UK_PAYG.CAB
T-Mobile_Nederland.CAB
T-Mobile_UK.CAB
Telfort_Nederland.CAB
TelstraClear_NZ.CAB
Telstra_Australia.CAB
Virgin_UK.CAB
Vodacom_SA_WAP1.2.CAB
Vodacom_SA_WAP2.0.CAB
Vodafone_AU.CAB
Vodafone_Nederland.CAB
Vodafone_NZ.CAB
Vodafone_UK_Contract.CAB
Vodafone_UK_PAYT.CA
I made a copy of all of the above to an SD card BEFORE DOING ANYTHING else (NoBackUp…learned his lesson……Harry Potter !!!)
So I Reduced my ER to Just
Autorun.exe
Default_Backgammon_PPC_IMAM001.CAB
Default_CAB-shortcut-CDL-08Sep05.CAB
Default_cdl_wwe_version.cab
Default_ie_view.sa.cab
Default_Imate_PPC_SA_V5.5.03.cab
Default_SkypeForPocketPCnonxScale.CAB
Install_Tsk.exe
Setup.exe
How just simply Delete !!!
Don’t forget to hard reset let the imate setup run (will not only install the stuff you did not delete) and try out your new toy.
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dannyoneill thanks heaps,
deleting those to files worked a treat
thanks again
t0ne

Poll for sticking this 3d!
THANKS !!!
..._
P.S.: may I install basic stuff to the ExtROM while it's hidden ?
Or, if I need to unhide it, install, then re-hide, will such software still playable ?
I mean for example:
- Total commander itself
- Resco explorer
- Storage tools
- Sprite Backup
- and so on...
Is it a strange idea ?
Thanks again for this illuminating thread.

You can unlock and install things no problem, not done it myself, done know if they will still be usable after its re-hidden i would think not.
The extended rom is reserved so empty or not its not going to give you more ram or rom storage at all. The best thing to do is unlock it and use it for storage. The annoying thing is if you hard reset you then have to re-unlock it.

t0ne said:
dannyoneill thanks heaps,
deleting those to files worked a treat
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BTW, on the i-mate website's JAMin support pages, you will find specific operator settings for Optus in a downloadable CAB file, which will setup the wireless settings for your device.

Question about uninstalling trial software

I have been using a small utility to SHOWS MY PHONE NUMBER on the today screen AND SWITCH SIMS. The utility has a 15 day trial. This software was "modded" to work in WM5. The official version only works in 2003SE. While it works OK in WM5, there are many bugs. Unfortunately, the company no longer is working on this utility, so no WM5 compatibility.
What I did was install the utility. The 15 days counts down. After 15 days it stops working. Very normal.
Because I need this utility, I want to install and reinstall it. Here is what I tried to do:
1) I installed a clean ROM. Made a registry backup using SKTools right away.
2) Installed utility
3) When 15 days is up, I uninstall
4) Tried restore original registry using SKTools
5) Reinstall utility
Unfortunately, the utility is still expired. How can this be? Normally, a program puts "keys" in the registry to indicate status. If I restore the registry to before the utility was ever installed, all traces of the utility SHOULD BE gone. What else can the utility be reading that is not unstalled? Another registry somewhere? Am I missing something?
Please help because I do use this and would buy it if it was ever made to work with WM5 by the developer. Until then I have to find a work around.
Thanks for any help.

Could the begining date from which the countdown started have been imbedded in the software at the time of the download from the website to your PC?

APK-1 said:
Could the begining date from which the countdown started have been imbedded in the software at the time of the download from the website to your PC?
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I don't think so, because if I flash a new ROM and install the software, it goes back to 15 days trial. I don't want to reflash my ROM every 15 days. So it must be reading the original install date from somewhere other than the registry. Any ideas where?

any ideas?

which software are you talking about - SIMName?

DoctorT said:
which software are you talking about - SIMName?
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WiVit Sim Switcher

often some software hides such data crypted in the registry, someone never find it or doesnt know hot to change...

Ricci82 said:
often some software hides such data crypted in the registry, someone never find it or doesnt know hot to change...
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You only need to make a WinDiff comparison - or, use SKTracker. I've published a complete tutorial on this: http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=215073

Nevertheless, it's not only the Registry that can hold such files / info, but als the file system (mostly under \Windows) and the WinCE databases.

Menneisyys said:
Nevertheless, it's not only the Registry that can hold such files / info, but als the file system (mostly under \Windows) and the WinCE databases.
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if this is the case, there is no way to know where the info is stored then?

anubus12 said:
if this is the case, there is no way to know where the info is stored then?
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Sure you can - just keep track of what has been changed upon installation / first start. SKTracker is an excellent tool in this respect.