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There is a free instant messenger app that comes with all WM5 phones. SDA, etc. My Qtek 9100 only has the MSN messanger app. I am looking for a free aol im app. Also I use Mac.....so how do i get it to my phone. It seems you can only do it from a PC. There has to be a way around this. Does anyone know a download place for the aol im for WM5? Has anyone figured this one out....I know you can buy one, which is lame.....when it is free on most WM5 phones. Please someone out there......give the answers.....lol.
u can do this by using agile messenger
i dont have my wizard already, but i found in the internet this free messenger:
http://www.movsoftware.com/products/imov/imov.htm
they say it is for WM 5.0
Agile says the WM 5.0 comes soon. (But i guess the 2002 Beta works too)
this agile messenger u can try it, i use it in my pda2k wm2003
Ahem...hello Alex. The T-Mobile messenger app is called OZ. It's actually pretty cool, but it only integrates AIM, ICQ, and Yahoo. Here is the Cab file.
Hey Yung. Thanx for answering his question and not giving him a whole bunch of alternitives. I was looking for this to, and every time I asked soemone would post; "use this, use that, I recommend this..." You get the idea. Anyways, thanks man.
Later; Lew
I tried out the OZ program and it seemed to work just fine. What I don't like is that it appears to use SMS for your IM's instead of your data connection. I talked with two people at TMO Customer service, but they just kept trying to tell me about regular texting. But on the TMO site, it looks like all instant message programs that come on their phones use SMS.
That is probably true since th eOX program dosent seam to work on my cingular 8125. It installs and all but it never can connect.
Later; Lew
OZ does appear to use text messaging, since T-Mobile just charged me for 45 text messages after I installed and started using it. :shock:
The T-Mobile extended ROM also included the T-Mobile Comm Manager. It has the phone on/off setting. See attached Cab...
Your list of PDA/Phones is longer than any of your posts. Cool 8)
I may try that comm manager, but I am going to wait till I will have the time to do a hard reset, just in case.
Later; Lew
I installed the OZ messenger on my cingular 8125 and it worked fine. I also hope that it doesnt use SMS as I've been using it like mad and don't want to get charged... The GPRS/Edge icon changes to connected when I connect using OZ messenger, so i'm hopeful that it doesn't use SMS.
Wow. Are you on Cingular network? Please let me know what you find out about how it works, SMS or Direct.
Later; Lew
I installed the cab. Yet when I try to sign on, I get the sms yet it doesn't successfully work. Newbie apologies if I'm not doing something obvious.
Probably not, I tryed, not long, but I tryed to get it to work. It kept failing to connect. Meh... what can you do?
Later; Lew
So... I couldn't get it to connect. I uninstalled, but there is a ghost icon left in programs. How can I get rid of the shortcut?
It needs to be installed to the phone, not the card. ONce I reinstalled, it worked fine.
so has anyone been successful in runnin a free aol program from their MDA?? i hate the fact tmo charges 14.99 in addition to the 29.99 dataplan for unlimited text messages.
so has anyone been successful in runnin a free aol program from their MDA?? i hate the fact tmo charges 14.99 in addition to the 29.99 dataplan for unlimited text messages.
agile works fine, its not designed for wm5, but it still works. there is supposed to be a beta wm5 version coming out soon
I tried loading OZ on my Qtek 9100 with cingular and it will not connect. When I look in the registry under HKCU\OZ Communications\Configuration\1
Data: Network
Value: http://wirelessvillage.t-mobile.com
It appears to point to T-Mobile which is not my carrier and may be why I can't connect.
Has anyone been able to get OZ IM to work with Cingular? If so, what is this registrry value in your registry?
Thanks.
I hate that the OZ messenger constantly occupies the notification slot. It keeps you from using the soft key on the today screen for calendar. Also i have noticed that even if i get kicked offline the little man is still on my top bar telling me im online.
I have tried agile, but it disconnects everytime you make a call or loose connection for any amt of time.
i just wish we could use aim like on a sidekick2. when some1 im u a phone number u can click and dial the number from the aim screen
This is my biggest complaint with the MDA so far... The OZ messenger is VERY SLOW and does not have the ability to "keep connection alive" so the GPRS will timeout every so often and only come back on when you send an IM out, then ALL of the imcoming IMs will be sent to you. One plus is that the OZ messenger stays logged on while I make phones calls during the day. IM+ and agile both disconnect when i make or answer any call!! are they serious?!? That is so damn annoying. Does anyone here have an advice on how to keep the IM on while making a call like the OZ messenger??? so sort of setting somewhere?!? please help, I've been researching til the end of time and can't figure it out. I have been through 3 different ROMs so I know that can't have much to do with it since OZ stays online just fine... any other IM progs out there that will help me? thanks...
The reason it disconnects you from the gprs/edge network when you receive a call is because it uses the same chip to process calls and data. So if you accept a call in it will take the call and stop data until the call is finished.
The reason OZ IM does get disconnected is because it works on TXT msessaging...which is really bad and it will cost you everymessage you send so you better have a large amount of free message as its not like IM+ or Agile which send it through the internet instead of trhough the tmobile txt message service.
I use VeriChat for IM. Its so much supperior to Agile and IM+ in many ways.
THe have a 30 days trial on their website. Give it a shot.
Hope this helps
I've heard that OZ messenger works using SMS, but you guys make it seem like it uses GPRS to send/receive instant messages. So which is it?
i guess u guys dont like the way u can click a link in aim on a sidekick no1 has answered any of my ?'s about y cant any of the im software allow u 2 click a number or webpage and view or dial it
Thought I would start this thread to identify the best IM for WM5.0 or Wizard. We are looking for a universal IM that connects to MSN, ICQ, AOL and Yahoo.
I have Agile Messenger but it seems to disconnect all the time while in a call or just randomly. Not to reliable. My wife has the sidekick and the IM is flawless.
What do you use and recommend?
Agile Messenger
Pro:
Nice interface that allows you to see all contacts from different services
You can pull ICQ info so you can see who are ebhind those numbers
Separate tabs for each IM window
Alerts when an IM appears
Con:
Connection drops when on call
Connection drops randomly (should be a buffer for lost connections before it disconnects)
The application will randomly close
I use Agile
About the cons:
Connection drops when on call (It uses GPRS/EDGE, which is the same part of the phone that makes/takes calls. The only other way is to use text messages, and that is costly)
Connection drops randomly (should be a buffer for lost connections before it disconnects) (I've never had that happen to me)
The application will randomly close (I've never had that happen to me)
Does anybody use the AIM that comes setup on the MDA? If not, why not? I don't use anything other than AIM, and the one that came with the phone seems to work fine (although I've only had it for a day now).
From what I've heard, the OZ messenger app which comes installed on tmobile mda uses sms to chat. this means you pay for each sms message unless you have unlimitted sms plan. also, i've found it to be painfully slow.
I think agile is great, especially the WM5 alpha build. agile must disconnect during a call because GPRS/EDGE and voice cannot be used at the same time. I also had random disonnects before I updated to the qtek AKU2 rom. Now that i have updated, agile works flawlessly.
the oz communicator does not use sms. i dont know why people start these nasty rumors. the problem i have with oz is that it constantly occupies the notification slot telling you that you ar available. the led will always blink orange when it is on. and i actually caught it disconnected with the available icon still in the notification tray.
if they fixed the notification to only when you get a new message then i would probably use it.
my agile closes its self too.
eguess said:
the oz communicator does not use sms. i dont know why people start these nasty rumors. the problem i have with oz is that it constantly occupies the notification slot telling you that you ar available. the led will always blink orange when it is on. and i actually caught it disconnected with the available icon still in the notification tray.
if they fixed the notification to only when you get a new message then i would probably use it.
my agile closes its self too.
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OZ absolutely does use SMS. I have performed tests on this where the ONLY use that could have been made of the SMS was the OZ client, and the counter got hit for EVERY message.
That's not a "nasty rumor" - its a FACT.
I totally agree that OZ uses SMS. I don't have unlimited SMS, so I never use it. After testing OZ, I suddenly had 45 text messages on my bill. Coincidence? NO! Like I said, I never use SMS, so it certainly was OZ that was using SMS to transmit those IMs back and forth.
Yung said:
I totally agree that OZ uses SMS. I don't have unlimited SMS, so I never use it. After testing OZ, I suddenly had 45 text messages on my bill. Coincidence? NO! Like I said, I never use SMS, so it certainly was OZ that was using SMS to transmit those IMs back and forth.
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I agree, we don't use unlimited SMS either, OZ is definitely SMS-based.
The SMS charges even say "IM" or "AIM" (can't remember which now)
hi, im new to the ppc phones. im using a wizard/o2 xda mini s... and i have a problem.. i can connect to the internet but all my messaging programs cant.. i tried agile, im+ and verichat.. all say cannot connect with current settings.. what should the gprs settings be for tmobile us/ny
help please? thanks in advance
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
gavinfabl said:
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
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except the website doesn't load and Handango wants $40 for it.
voodoomurphy said:
gavinfabl said:
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
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except the website doesn't load and Handango wants $40 for it.
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lol
sorry, thinking of game by astraware. Try www.shapeservices.com
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gavinfabl said:
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
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except the website doesn't load and Handango wants $40 for it.
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lol
the website is www.shapeservices.com and somehow I don't like IM+ very much. I like agile better.
new IM software half price
http://www.webmessenger.com/wm5.htm
just seen this. just for wm5 as well.
http://www.webmessenger.com/wm5.htm
just seen this. just for wm5 as well.
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Hmm. Not free though...
I have been using the T-Mobile USA messenger software. It works, but the incoming messages are very slow. Outgoing ones are fast but the incoming take about 5 mins or so. Where can I download the OZ software?
I went to dl agile and the site says WM5 version coming soon. what version are you guys using?
the WM5 version of agile is due in the next 1-2 weeks...
there's a link to an alpha version of the WM5 agile in another xda-dev thread...
I realy need a good messenger like IM+...or something like Yahoo.Go(i know it's for symbian only)..but a messenger thet realy work...
By the way...i use only Yahoo Messenger.
Tnx in advance...
I have tried all of them. Most people seem to like Agile and I even thought I did at first. Problem is, with GPRS/EDGE it disconnects constantly. If you receive a phone call, your connection drops and you will still appear online for a little while after. So if someone sends you a message when in this state, you never receive it. I have an issue with dropped messages.
I found the most stable backend IM client to use is Verichat. It is both TCPIP and SMS based from what I have seen. You always appear online no matter what state your phone is in. If you receive a message when your phone is off or on a call, the message will be sent via SMS. If your device is on and you have the app open, you will receive the message via TCPIP. It also has BOTS that can be added to your bud list for handy things like movie times, driving directions, etc. It also supports all major IM services.
Free to try:
http://www.verichat.com/verichat_ppc/index.html
I Hard-SPL'd my Wing and threw Touch-It 4.4 on it. From what I am understanding, this means I can now use my phone with any carrier. Does this also mean that while using it with T-Mobile that they won't be able to charge me for AIM messages that I sent thru wi-fi now? They have a nasty policy of charging for AIM messages even if you send them thru private wifi.
hidavi said:
I Hard-SPL'd my Wing and threw Touch-It 4.4 on it. From what I am understanding, this means I can now use my phone with any carrier. Does this also mean that while using it with T-Mobile that they won't be able to charge me for AIM messages that I sent thru wi-fi now? They have a nasty policy of charging for AIM messages even if you send them thru private wifi.
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You have tp PAY when you are using wifi????
when gprs isn´t connected and you are using wifi - that COULD not happen in my eyes.
BUT often when GPRS is connected AND wifi also the programs go through GPRS!!!!!! ths the problem. allways disconnect GPRS!
there is a liitle app "MoDaCo - Nodata" that prevents GPRS for connecting - if you don´t wish it to...
Trust me. I had the GPRS connection deleted from the connection manager. It could not connect thru there at all. I even called them and they said themselves, "there's a portion of the IM that travels thru T-Mobile" They wouldn't tell me for what, just that it has to. Bull**** because when I'm using hacked AIM 2.0 (they block the official AIM 2.0.), guess what? No AIM charges...
But I hate AIM 2.0. The software is ancient and therefore annoying.
How does Tmobile charge you for the AIM message? As data? As a sms?
Like the other guy, I dont understand how Tmobile would even "know" your aiming if you are doing so via WAN. Hmmmmm strange.
hidavi said:
I Hard-SPL'd my Wing and threw Touch-It 4.4 on it. From what I am understanding, this means I can now use my phone with any carrier. Does this also mean that while using it with T-Mobile that they won't be able to charge me for AIM messages that I sent thru wi-fi now? They have a nasty policy of charging for AIM messages even if you send them thru private wifi.
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what you said means that Hard SPL " Sim Unclock Herald" Is that true? !!!
chris30_2001 said:
How does Tmobile charge you for the AIM message? As data? As a sms?
Like the other guy, I dont understand how Tmobile would even "know" your aiming if you are doing so via WAN. Hmmmmm strange.
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Tmobile's OZ instant messaging application allows you to use AIM, YIM and ICQ .. but the catch is, it uses the text plan in order to avoid having to use a data plan. So people use the IM application then get a bill for 1,000,000 SMS messages and they have no idea where it came from.
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Tmobile's OZ instant messaging application allows you to use AIM, YIM and ICQ .. but the catch is, it uses the text plan in order to avoid having to use a data plan. So people use the IM application then get a bill for 1,000,000 SMS messages and they have no idea where it came from.
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I swear, my OZ messenger would not work if I wasn't on Wifi.
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Tmobile's OZ instant messaging application allows you to use AIM, YIM and ICQ .. but the catch is, it uses the text plan in order to avoid having to use a data plan. So people use the IM application then get a bill for 1,000,000 SMS messages and they have no idea where it came from.
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Yeah thats exactly the way I understand it. I figured b/c he was talking about going over wireless he was using IM+ or something.
hidavi, have you tried a third party program like IM+ ??
Doesn't matter, they still charge thru IM+. I know cuz for a whole month I used IM+ thru wifi and I got overaged $80 for AIM messages. I swear, if I'm not on data or wifi, my IMs won't go thru, not thru OZ not thru IM+.
This is from a product review
What I didn't know is that it is not a true online instant messenger application. Behind the scenes, it sends instant messages using SMS, and on the other person's end, repackages those SMS messages into the IM application. It seems like a novel idea, but the side effects are awful: OZ Messenger's ability to stay "connected" for chat, report the online/offline status of others, and report YOUR status as online/offline is hit or miss. Sending and receiving messages is also very unreliable. During the three days I struggled through this, roughly half of my messages weren't sent due to a "network error", despite having 4 or 5 bars and a full EDGE connection. (Side note - I'm also worried T-Mobile will bill me for SMS usage when I used this instant messenger)
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Doesn't matter, they still charge thru IM+. I know cuz for a whole month I used IM+ thru wifi and I got overaged $80 for AIM messages. I swear, if I'm not on data or wifi, my IMs won't go thru, not thru OZ not thru IM+.
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Wow doode.....that sucks....
Well, I'm not getting charged nowadays since I'm using hacked AIM 2.0, but I really wish this program had a Today plugin and a easier to use interface...
From what I found in the guts of the registry, OzIM uses a T-Mobile server as a portal for the IM system. Since every IM you send filters through their server, they have full control to see where and what you are sending, saying, seeing, etc, even if you are on a WiFi connection.
I've seen several recommendations for alternate IM systems that Don't Suck. Slick was recommended by somebody, but I haven't personally tried it yet.