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can any UK users report on the youtube app

Hi guys,
Got a HD2 at the moment, and the youtube app doesn't run too smooth, and video playback suffers from audio lag. Anyone tried the video playback on the N1 yet, and able to comment on quality..
Cheers
Darrin

I have HD2 and N1, i've not notice any audio lag on my HD2. I haven't tested N1 youtube app but i think it has more option then the one on HD2 like i can login to my youtube account and pull all the bookmarked videos.

thanks for that, strange how i seem to be having audio lag, tried 3 hd2's, and all the same, using wifi.
how do you rate the N1 against the hd2?
cheers

hmm i can't really tell much about N1 yet, as i didn't get much time to play around. I only had it yeasterday.
Any way try chosing high quality settings from youtube app on HD2.

pastypacker said:
thanks for that, strange how i seem to be having audio lag, tried 3 hd2's, and all the same, using wifi.
how do you rate the N1 against the hd2?
cheers
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Can you give me the link of the you video?

Any video really, have the issue with them all, the audio lags around 1/2 second behind the video, even when the video is copied to sd and played....
Would be interested to see if the N1 youtube app is better then the hd2, i expect it will be.....

hey guys,
got my n1 today...youtube playback is laggy - over wifi aswell.
audio is fine but video lags.
Might just be a one off, im currently charging the phone, gna reboot and see if theres any improvements...

adam18488 said:
hey guys,
got my n1 today...youtube playback is laggy - over wifi aswell.
audio is fine but video lags.
Might just be a one off, im currently charging the phone, gna reboot and see if theres any improvements...
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will you keep me posted....cheers....Darrin

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pastypacker said:
will you keep me posted....cheers....Darrin
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Been on charge since my last post - youtube is now working perfectly on wifi and 3g in low quality - dont have enough patience to check vids in high quality as signal is too weak where i am.
Great quality no lag etc etc.
Also, if anyone's interested: Had a few signal problems (Vodafone) - re-inserted sim, rebooted and all is well in nexus world.

Worked like a champ on 2G where I am at! Best youtube app on any device I have ever tried, IMHO. Quick to load, even on 2G, great buffering, and so forth.

Audio always out of sync when playing back converted video :(

How can I solve this? Ive converted using MP4ForHD and something else called encoder or something (forgot now). Yet whenever I try to play a video thats been converted for the hd2 specifically, the audio is out of sync. If doesnt happen on videos I record, just others that are converted.]
Might it be the Leo's media player? would anybody recomend using a different media player (free) for the device?
Thanks in advance

~~~BUMPETY!~~~

Please help
I used 4 convertors (handbrake, HD, MP4 and the media coder mentioned in the forum)
all of which will result in out of sync audio.. even while vieweing in computer!!!!

Mr.Observer said:
Please help
I used 4 convertors (handbrake, HD, MP4 and the media coder mentioned in the forum)
all of which will result in out of sync audio.. even while vieweing in computer!!!!
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Annoying huh? I dont get out of sync audio on the computer, only when playing on the leo

This is a well-established bug which HTC has so far refused to acknowledge. Your best bet is for you and everybody else to keep complaining to HTC tech support until someone higher up gets to hear about it.

Shasarak said:
This is a well-established bug which HTC has so far refused to acknowledge. Your best bet is for you and everybody else to keep complaining to HTC tech support until someone higher up gets to hear about it.
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Christ sake HTC have so many ****ing bugs in whats meant to be the best mobile device available. Dont get me wrong I love my device but theres just so many serious problems

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Christ sake HTC have so many ****ing bugs in whats meant to be the best mobile device available. Dont get me wrong I love my device but theres just so many serious problems
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What annoys me is not so much the bugs but the impossibility of getting hold of anyone at HTC to tell them about them; there seems to be virtually no communication at all between "tech support" and "head office". The bugs wouldn't be a problem if we could report them and get them fixed, but there isn't anyone we can usefully report them to.

Shasarak said:
What annoys me is not so much the bugs but the impossibility of getting hold of anyone at HTC to tell them about them; there seems to be virtually no communication at all between "tech support" and "head office". The bugs wouldn't be a problem if we could report them and get them fixed, but there isn't anyone we can usefully report them to.
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Yeah I know what you mean, so annoying -.-

Do the videos in this link play OOS?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5341496&postcount=32

As above, try setting an audio delay when encoding (if you can with whatever software you are using).
Works fine for me.

kenkiller said:
Do the videos in this link play OOS?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5341496&postcount=32
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Hi, erm I think they play correctly, ( I tried the star wars one ) Its hard to tell when theres no lip movement, but yeah it seems right
So do you recomend using those settings in that single thread?
(might I ask you, what starwars thing is that? it looks so epic )

I've raised this issue with HTC support. Clips that are perfectly in sync on the Touch HD2 are out of sync on the HD2. I'll let yout know what they say.

Moandal said:
I've raised this issue with HTC support. Clips that are perfectly in sync on the Touch HD2 are OPS on the HD2. I'll let yout know what they say.
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Yes Ive done the same, but Im not expecting an answer, htc never reply to m but thats probably because im rude lol

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Hi, erm I think they play correctly, ( I tried the star wars one ) Its hard to tell when theres no lip movement, but yeah it seems right
So do you recomend using those settings in that single thread?
(might I ask you, what starwars thing is that? it looks so epic )
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Sure, just go along with kr00t0n's audio delay if my profiles give OOS results.
At least for me, my current setup on that thread gives me the best looking videos without too much fuss. But it also depends on the videos you feed into it. MKVs with dts/vorbis might encounter some problems....if you have those we can talk somemore.
That's Star Wars : The Old Republic iirc....upcoming video game.

kenkiller said:
Sure, just go along with kr00t0n's audio delay if my profiles give OOS results.
At least for me, my current setup on that thread gives me the best looking videos without too much fuss. But it also depends on the videos you feed into it. MKVs with dts/vorbis might encounter some problems....if you have those we can talk somemore.
That's Star Wars : The Old Republic iirc....upcoming video game.
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Well I have a ton of mkvs lol, but Ive converted most of them to avi already so its not a problem. I tried that method, with your profile with the slight delays ect and it worked great! really high quality as well (Although I couldnt find where to change the FPS to 30)
The only problem was it took about 25 minutes to encode a 20 minute show which is pretty long @[email protected] Especially on a quad core pc

Here are some more 0.400 delayed 720p encodes:
http://www.kr00t0n.com/Kjam/Legion.mp4
http://www.kr00t0n.com/Kjam/HowToTrainYourDragon.mp4
http://www.kr00t0n.com/Kjam/Avatar.mp4

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Well I have a ton of mkvs lol, but Ive converted most of them to avi already so its not a problem. I tried that method, with your profile with the slight delays ect and it worked great! really high quality as well (Although I couldnt find where to change the FPS to 30)
The only problem was it took about 25 minutes to encode a 20 minute show which is pretty long @[email protected] Especially on a quad core pc
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This is why you should turn your pc on in the morning, queue up the videos, start encoding, then go to work, lol!

After some testing, I have found that the resolution of the original video needs to be factored in to the resolution used in WinMEnc.
Most videos are 1280x720, which is 16:9, but 800x480 is 16:10.
This will cause encoded videos to be stretched upwards slightly, or in the case of more cinematic resolutions (the Legion trailer is 1280x608) stretched quite a bit.
Using this website, you can find out what settings you need in WinMEnc.
Find out the original resolution and put it in the lefthand boxes.
Then put 800 in top righthand box, and calculate.
1280x608 needs 800x380 to maintain aspect ratio (no stretching).
I edited the ini to be 800:380, as you can't edit this in WinMEnc itself, save, then load.
Comparisons:
http://www.kr00t0n.com/Kjam/Legion.mp4
http://www.kr00t0n.com/Kjam/Legion800x380.mp4

no sync issues here. I use HDencoder @1000kbit Video 128kbit Audio and check Normalize Audio.
Never had a out of sync problem converting MKV to MP4.
Some MKVs contain an audio delay for specific audio tracks, which most converters cannot read. Have the same problem when converting/muxing MKVs for PS3. Maybe this is your problem here....?!

why bother converting??? just get coreplayer and play avi's....happy days??

My thoughts after two weeks (for what it's worth)

I have had my Galaxy S for about two weeks now, previously being a very happy HTC Hero owner for about a year. Below is a short list of the things I have learned during this time, some good, some bad.
1.) Firstly, this is a FANTASTIC device; easily the best handset I have ever used. From the Super AMOLED screen that to this day still blows me away every time I pick up the phone, to the amazing 3D performance. No doubt, the Galaxy S is a desirable piece of kit.
2.) Despite this, it is let down by a single CRIPPLING flaw that we all know so well by now... The RFS file system. Make no mistake, without a lagfix installed, the Galaxy S performs at about 50% of its potential. This is true of ALL firmwares, including xxJPK. I've heard people on the forums claiming that JPK doesn't need a lagfix... Well, all I can say to that is that they haven't played around for long enough to notice, or they haven't tried OCLF at all. The difference is like night and day.
3.) So the lagfix makes the Galaxy S a monster; truly a pleasure to use. Why then does Samsung not recognise this potential and fix the problem? Looking at xxJPK and the build-date, I would say it's a pretty safe bet that Samsung are going to be sticking with RFS in the upcoming official Froyo release. That fact alone is a huge disappointment for me, and one which weighs heavily on my mind. Why should we have to rely on 3rd party "fixes" from the community to get the full performance from our phones? All of the current lagfixes have their own negatives. What we NEED is Samsung to come to the party! I wonder whether the Galaxy Tab will suffer from the same problems...
4.) The GPS problems that are well documented on the net have not affected me at all. I have successfully navigated from point A to B using Google Nav (Brut), and I have recorded a 6km trail using My Tracks, all without a single problem. I'm not saying the GPS issue doesn't exist, but if it does, it hasn't affected me yet. If anything, I would concede that the GPS is "weaker" than that of my Hero, but still fine for day to day use.
5.) My biggest concern coming in was the plastic construction of the phone, and Samsung's legendary (at least in my eyes) poor build quality. I'm pleased to report that on the contrary, the phone feels great in-hand, the weight is perfect and build quality is just fine. Now, I am not sure I would WANT to go back to one of the beefier HTC handsets I have coveted for so long.
6.) AllShare + DivX Certification + Hardware video acceleration = WIN! I tell you, the fact that I can lie in bed and stream all my media to this phone wirelessly and watch it on that gorgeous display is worth the price of admission alone.
7.) TouchWiz > Sense. When I had my Hero, I couldn't stand Sense. It felt bloated, and I always preferred a vanilla Google experience. TouchWiz is light enough that it doesn't get in the way of Android, and the overall look and feel is actually better than vanilla Android in my opinion. I'm happy to stick with stock ROMs, provided Samsung keep churning them out (something they haven't done too well so far!).
And yeah, that's about it... Thanks for reading if you got this far. Hopefully my thoughts and opinions echo true for some of you and trigger discussion.

I think you shoulda posted in general ..

PaulForde said:
I think you shoulda posted in general ..
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Sorry, you are right... Too used to posting here in Dev. Can a mod move it for me?

StNickZA said:
6.) AllShare + DivX Certification + Hardware video acceleration = WIN! I tell you, the fact that I can lie in bed and stream all my media to this phone wirelessly and watch it on that gorgeous display is worth the price of admission alone.
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May I ask what kind of server you are using? A NAS or some software, if the latter, which exactly? I gave up experimenting with PS3 Media Server a while back, though that is by far the best solution for the namegiving media renderer (and compatible to some others).

PlanetJumble said:
May I ask what kind of server you are using? A NAS or some software, if the latter, which exactly? I gave up experimenting with PS3 Media Server a while back, though that is by far the best solution for the namegiving media renderer (and compatible to some others).
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Unfortunately, I could not get PS3MS to work either, no matter what I tried. I use it already for streaming to the PS3.
To stream to the phone, I use Media Player 11. It works fine, but obviously only for formats that the phone can play natively (which fortunately is most of them).
Ultimately, I'd like to find a way to get PS3MS to transcode ALL formats for me into something the i9000 recognises.

StNickZA said:
To stream to the phone, I use Media Player 11. It works fine, but obviously only for formats that the phone can play natively (which fortunately is most of them).
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Transcoding isn't much of a problem, since the alternative I use is to download to the phone and play it natively anyway.
But having to feed WMP the media collection is cumbersome. On PS3MS, I just give it the base folder and then navigate on my PS3. Adding new files on the fly works just fine if they are moved somewhere in that tree. Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I seem to have to manually add each file for WMP and then I have them all mixed up in flat hierarchy, which sucks badly.

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Transcoding isn't much of a problem, since the alternative I use is to download to the phone and play it natively anyway.
But having to feed WMP the media collection is cumbersome. On PS3MS, I just give it the base folder and then navigate on my PS3. Adding new files on the fly works just fine if they are moved somewhere in that tree. Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I seem to have to manually add each file for WMP and then I have them all mixed up in flat hierarchy, which sucks badly.
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Actually, I thought this to be the case as well. WMP seems to scan the mdia folders that you have added. And you don't need to browse using the library, which I agree is a pain.
In AllShare, go to Videos, then scroll down to Folders. From there you have the familiar layout you are used to from PS3MS.

StNickZA, I agree 100% with everything you have said! This should be in General though.
I haven't used AllShare that much, since I have a method that I prefer more:
First grab an app called 'File Expert' off the market. Set up an SMB file share to your movies and eps on your PC using normal windows sharing.
Then when you want something on your phone, just make sure you're on wifi, go to the SMB file share, hold down on the video and select copy. Then go back to local and paste it into the device. It will now say copying, and you can press the home button and go on with other stuff while it copies across.
The main benefit of this is that you don't have to worry about going out of range of wifi signal or anything, and it only takes a couple seconds to get the transfer started. Plus, no worrying about incompatibility or anything with streaming. Could be better, but it works.

If u have a nas like me, or wish to play videos from shared folders use CIFS Manager
No need to copy
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I just use an HTTP server (HFS, installation is extremely simple) and the Browser to get the files on my phone.
But that is exactly what I want to get rid of, copying the files. Haven't tried CIFS Manager yet, but got that on my list.

True.. buut, another launcher, removing glasslock and taskmanager under touchwiz makes it an even smoother ride imo. )
Tapatalk, Sgs elite.

PlanetJumble said:
But that is exactly what I want to get rid of, copying the files. Haven't tried CIFS Manager yet, but got that on my list.
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That's the beauty of DLNA. AllShare works perfectly off Media Player 11, and streaming is flawless. Very happy with it indeed!

How Can I Limit Amount Power of Youtube on HD2?

i got an unmodded, TMOUS WM 6.5 HD2. youtube expends lots of power on my HD2. is there an app or add-on that limits the amount of power that yourtube expends on the phone?

koolxx said:
i got an unmodded, TMOUS WM 6.5 HD2. youtube expends lots of power on my HD2. is there an app or add-on that limits the amount of power that yourtube expends on the phone?
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Hey koolxx
I do not think there is anything out there that will do that, but I could be wrong. Wait and see what some others might say about it. You do have to realize though Youtube plays streaming video and that takes a good bit of battery power as it requires several processes to be running at once.

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Hey koolxx
I do not think there is anything out there that will do that, but I could be wrong. Wait and see what some others might say about it. You do have to realize though Youtube plays streaming video and that takes a good bit of battery power as it requires several processes to be running at once.
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thanks t-mac. i wish there was at least a registry tweak that limits power on youtube. i appreciate your input, nonetheless.

you cant do such a thing.you can only make quality of videos low

If you can limit the amount of power it uses, then there wont be anyone complaint about battery life in almost all smartphones right?
Sent from HTC HD2 with Android

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you cant do such a thing.you can only make quality of videos low
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yeah but the problem with that is the quality of videos will suck. i tried it and i changed it back to optimal quality. thanks for the reply anyway

koolxx said:
yeah but the problem with that is the quality of videos will suck. i tried it and i changed it back to optimal quality. thanks for the reply anyway
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Well, as the saying goes, one can't eat one's cake and have it too.
All apps require a certain amount of battery power in order to function. Developers can make apps more efficient so it uses less, but Youtube is a special case. It's an app that simultaneously plays audio, video, and uses constant data. Such apps can't be very efficient and will always use an immense amount of battery power.
For Youtube, if you want it to use less power, switching to low quality is pretty much the only method. If you want high quality, then bearing the high power consumption is all you can do.

[Q] picture rendering time problem?

I didn't notice any problem like this in any of my other devices.
but whenever i take a picture with G2, and try to have a look at it in gallary,
the picture would first look really blurry at first.
and after 0.5~1 second, the the blur image would get cleaned up from top to bottom of the screen in multiple section, from right to left.
is this normal? or do i have a defect phone?
sorry for the multiple threads, my computer froze up for a second :/

It's normal. These are HUGE images and it is just essentially needing time to "load" it up and process it.
You can also try using a third-party app like Quick Pic which I think does a little better job of caching things.
But no, you don't have a defective phone just because of that.

burningembers said:
It's normal. These are HUGE images and it is just essentially needing time to "load" it up and process it.
You can also try using a third-party app like Quick Pic which I think does a little better job of caching things.
But no, you don't have a defective phone just because of that.
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okay, thanks for the info.
can i ask you few more question? i don't feel like starting another thread.
first question is about the camera. whenever i try to record something while moving the camera, the camera would try to focus itself very often. it feels like it's doing it too much. is this normal?
second, i don't know if you would know this, but would outdated router prevent G2 from getting connect to the home network?
thx XD

ILLHYHL said:
okay, thanks for the info.
can i ask you few more question? i don't feel like starting another thread.
first question is about the camera. whenever i try to record something while moving the camera, the camera would try to focus itself very often. it feels like it's doing it too much. is this normal?
second, i don't know if you would know this, but would outdated router prevent G2 from getting connect to the home network?
thx XD
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1) Yea, its normal for the G2, but its hardly ideal. It is something that has been mentioned in reviews and hopefully a future patch fixes it and makes it more stable.
2) Yes, it would. I've owned routers flat out incompatible for whatever reason with some devices I own. You may have luck forcing the router into a particular channel and/or G-mode -- or upgrading its firmware.

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1) Yea, its normal for the G2, but its hardly ideal. It is something that has been mentioned in reviews and hopefully a future patch fixes it and makes it more stable.
2) Yes, it would. I've owned routers flat out incompatible for whatever reason with some devices I own. You may have luck forcing the router into a particular channel and/or G-mode -- or upgrading its firmware.
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sorry to bother you with so many questions.
one last question
when i record a video with 60fps, and look at the video in the gallary, the video seems to studder alot. the video looks more like 6 fps than 60 fps
i assume this is not normal, right?

ILLHYHL said:
sorry to bother you with so many questions.
one last question
when i record a video with 60fps, and look at the video in the gallary, the video seems to studder alot. the video looks more like 6 fps than 60 fps
i assume this is not normal, right?
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Yeah, video sucks right now. It's really unfortunate as this is mostly an excellent phone. I'm sure DEV support or a official patch will fix it.

ILLHYHL said:
sorry to bother you with so many questions.
one last question
when i record a video with 60fps, and look at the video in the gallary, the video seems to studder alot. the video looks more like 6 fps than 60 fps
i assume this is not normal, right?
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lattiboy said:
Yeah, video sucks right now. It's really unfortunate as this is mostly an excellent phone. I'm sure DEV support or a official patch will fix it.
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Hmm, my 1080p 60fps video is fine on playback...
I usually opt for 720p though just to conserve space and because the video usually ends up on facebook or youtube anyway so it isn't like 1080/60 is necessary.

burningembers said:
Hmm, my 1080p 60fps video is fine on playback...
I usually opt for 720p though just to conserve space and because the video usually ends up on facebook or youtube anyway so it isn't like 1080/60 is necessary.
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really? hm... i should go back to the tmo store and compare mine with the display ones...