T-Mobile MDA w/ OZ IM client... notification won't go away? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Hi,
I have recently switched back from using AgileMessenger to using OZ IM, which is the "Instant Messaging" program bundled with T-Mobile MDAs. I did this because I hate how I miss messages when I'm in an area with poor service using AgileMessenger. OZ IM uses SMS messages, so it doesn't have that problem, but it does have one ASTOUNDINGLY annoying feature - it constantly shows a notification entitled "AOL Instant Messenger" that seems to just serve to tell me that its available and let me switch to it. I think this is a convenience for people who aren't using a replacement task switcher like Magic Button, and in that context I can see it being good, but personally I find it quite annoying. Is there any way that anyone is aware of that I can disable that notification? I'd prefer to use Magic Button to switch to OZ IM and use the notification feature for what it was intended for.

I've been having the same problem on my new MDA and just searched to find this single thread about it. Anyone have a solution?

ANNOYING AS HELL!!!!!!!!!!!

i also agree
on another note i checked the oz.com site and it shows that they have a version that does msn messenger too, i would like to get one that does them all wonder how i can get that version??? also would like to get it with google talk...

hey i just found this on HowardForums, I haven't had a chance to try it out yet, but am going to right now will post results in a few
"Posted by: goombalife
As for Agile Notification options, there is some bug that appears to constantly be neglected, at least for our wizards. To remove the annoying balloon notification run the client once, look inside of \program files\agilemessenger... and using a text editor (total commander for example) open preferences.xml look for the dual entry of <text_balloons>, remove the first entry and notice the second entry is the option you have chosen inside the client... OFF! "

dumbass me, this was for agilemessenger
sorry jumped the gun..

Does anyone know if T-Mobile OZ works with any other provider? I am with Fido and cannot get it to go.

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Newbie still getting to grips with XDA-II

ok ive had my XDA-II now just over a month and loving it, upgraded from a symbian mobile history, ive pretty much got the phone sussed but i still have a few niggles which i would be most greatful if any one could help me
1. GPRS counter?? are there any freeware GPRS counters?? or am i missing the built in one??
2. is it possible to recieve SMS delivery reports on my XDA-II??
3. after sending an SMS i occasionally get the "Message Sent" box stuck at the top, just a pic of envelope which pressed brings it up, and the only way to loose it is a soft reset
4. Are there any applications that take advantage of the built in camera??
thats all i can thinki of at this instant
Most greatful for answer i can be provided with!!
Many thanks
Lee
For reports try putting *0# in the subject line.
In relation to the message sent envelope stuck on the top of the screen. If you close down the inbox application before the message sent indication is received it is stuck there until you do a soft reset. its a glitch in the software.
Steve
I found the envelope is caused by SPB's Pocket Plus closing the Inbox application. PP has a feature where the close button actually shuts down the application as opposed to minimising it in the case of deafult WM2003 behaviour.
Dave
yeah i had issues with plus terminating my applications too
i set it to minimize like default and use
PHM task manager
when i want to really close applications
it's a close of the task manager in windows and it's free
great stuff people!! thanks for your help, funnily nough i do have pocket plus installed!!! ill have to have a play with it

The Best Instant Messenger (IM)

Thought I would start this thread to identify the best IM for WM5.0 or Wizard. We are looking for a universal IM that connects to MSN, ICQ, AOL and Yahoo.
I have Agile Messenger but it seems to disconnect all the time while in a call or just randomly. Not to reliable. My wife has the sidekick and the IM is flawless.
What do you use and recommend?
Agile Messenger
Pro:
Nice interface that allows you to see all contacts from different services
You can pull ICQ info so you can see who are ebhind those numbers
Separate tabs for each IM window
Alerts when an IM appears
Con:
Connection drops when on call
Connection drops randomly (should be a buffer for lost connections before it disconnects)
The application will randomly close
I use Agile
About the cons:
Connection drops when on call (It uses GPRS/EDGE, which is the same part of the phone that makes/takes calls. The only other way is to use text messages, and that is costly)
Connection drops randomly (should be a buffer for lost connections before it disconnects) (I've never had that happen to me)
The application will randomly close (I've never had that happen to me)
Does anybody use the AIM that comes setup on the MDA? If not, why not? I don't use anything other than AIM, and the one that came with the phone seems to work fine (although I've only had it for a day now).
From what I've heard, the OZ messenger app which comes installed on tmobile mda uses sms to chat. this means you pay for each sms message unless you have unlimitted sms plan. also, i've found it to be painfully slow.
I think agile is great, especially the WM5 alpha build. agile must disconnect during a call because GPRS/EDGE and voice cannot be used at the same time. I also had random disonnects before I updated to the qtek AKU2 rom. Now that i have updated, agile works flawlessly.
the oz communicator does not use sms. i dont know why people start these nasty rumors. the problem i have with oz is that it constantly occupies the notification slot telling you that you ar available. the led will always blink orange when it is on. and i actually caught it disconnected with the available icon still in the notification tray.
if they fixed the notification to only when you get a new message then i would probably use it.
my agile closes its self too.
eguess said:
the oz communicator does not use sms. i dont know why people start these nasty rumors. the problem i have with oz is that it constantly occupies the notification slot telling you that you ar available. the led will always blink orange when it is on. and i actually caught it disconnected with the available icon still in the notification tray.
if they fixed the notification to only when you get a new message then i would probably use it.
my agile closes its self too.
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OZ absolutely does use SMS. I have performed tests on this where the ONLY use that could have been made of the SMS was the OZ client, and the counter got hit for EVERY message.
That's not a "nasty rumor" - its a FACT.
I totally agree that OZ uses SMS. I don't have unlimited SMS, so I never use it. After testing OZ, I suddenly had 45 text messages on my bill. Coincidence? NO! Like I said, I never use SMS, so it certainly was OZ that was using SMS to transmit those IMs back and forth.
Yung said:
I totally agree that OZ uses SMS. I don't have unlimited SMS, so I never use it. After testing OZ, I suddenly had 45 text messages on my bill. Coincidence? NO! Like I said, I never use SMS, so it certainly was OZ that was using SMS to transmit those IMs back and forth.
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I agree, we don't use unlimited SMS either, OZ is definitely SMS-based.
The SMS charges even say "IM" or "AIM" (can't remember which now)
hi, im new to the ppc phones. im using a wizard/o2 xda mini s... and i have a problem.. i can connect to the internet but all my messaging programs cant.. i tried agile, im+ and verichat.. all say cannot connect with current settings.. what should the gprs settings be for tmobile us/ny
help please? thanks in advance
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
gavinfabl said:
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
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except the website doesn't load and Handango wants $40 for it.
voodoomurphy said:
gavinfabl said:
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
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except the website doesn't load and Handango wants $40 for it.
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lol
sorry, thinking of game by astraware. Try www.shapeservices.com
voodoomurphy said:
gavinfabl said:
IM Plus by www.shapeshifter.de is the best. Does all the IM transports incl Google.
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except the website doesn't load and Handango wants $40 for it.
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lol
the website is www.shapeservices.com and somehow I don't like IM+ very much. I like agile better.
new IM software half price
http://www.webmessenger.com/wm5.htm
just seen this. just for wm5 as well.
http://www.webmessenger.com/wm5.htm
just seen this. just for wm5 as well.
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Hmm. Not free though...
I have been using the T-Mobile USA messenger software. It works, but the incoming messages are very slow. Outgoing ones are fast but the incoming take about 5 mins or so. Where can I download the OZ software?
I went to dl agile and the site says WM5 version coming soon. what version are you guys using?
the WM5 version of agile is due in the next 1-2 weeks...
there's a link to an alpha version of the WM5 agile in another xda-dev thread...

OZ messenger on 8125

it is suppose to work? i installed it on my cingular phone, but when i went to sign on. i get a message saying please send ten digit phone # and some random gibberish in a text file.
whats happening here?
isn't OZ that Java messaging program?
If so, I don't believe it'll work on the 8125.
There are better programs that are native to the Windows Mobile platform anyway
As far as I know, OZ only comes on tmobile phones. If it's anything like everything else that comes with tmobile phones, they've done something to lock it to tmobile and will probably prove worthless on cingular. And really, it's pretty worthless on tmobile, too. It constantly sets notification flags, causing the light to blink and the "Notification" softkey to display and there's no turning it off. It uses SMS for messaging, it doesn't close (it hides) and you can't kill it easily, if at all. I've never been able to kill it once I started it, anyway. I use the MSN app that comes with the phone and that crappy old AIM client. Neither is anything to write home about but they get the job done and they're a magnitude better than OZ. Agile is nice but I don't entirely trust it yet and it's still kinda buggy in places.

Visual Voice Mail is Here!! (SimulScribe)

www.simulsays.com
I have been using this program for about 3 days now and I must say that it is pretty good. You really have to follow the setup to get it right. I did not select to do the transcribe feature but I am thinking about it now that I like the Visual Voice mail side of the program.
My only downside now is the program is not giving me a notification that I have new emails. They say it is supposed to work......but! The way I overcame this is that on the setup screen, I have notification set to send me a email to let me know. This is a work around but still a great app.
Anyone else using this..........if so let me know what you think and how it is working for you.
CallWave does this too...
...and it is free.
i saw this on boygenius.com. but i also read that the .cab file is only for the smartphone and not for pocket pc.
dgduris said:
...and it is free.
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I use callwave as well...it's so awesome! I LOVE IT!
Been trying to sign up for callwave but it doesn't recognize my phone number format and I'm in Canada.
How should it be written?
as for simulscribe, yes make sure u follow instructions or it wont work
I tried callwave.....it seems pretty good, but there is not a program for the PPC that will allow you to see each voicemail that you have. It does send to your email. If you have push email turned on, it is ok. SimulScribe still seems to be a little further in with its PPC Visual Voice Mail. Maybe someone will come out with something better quick!
tomcat777 said:
www.simulsays.com
I have been using this program for about 3 days now and I must say that it is pretty good. You really have to follow the setup to get it right. I did not select to do the transcribe feature but I am thinking about it now that I like the Visual Voice mail side of the program.
My only downside now is the program is not giving me a notification that I have new emails. They say it is supposed to work......but! The way I overcame this is that on the setup screen, I have notification set to send me a email to let me know. This is a work around but still a great app.
Anyone else using this..........if so let me know what you think and how it is working for you.
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You mention you were having problems with email notifications. Does this work with your email, or is it a standalone app (there's not too much info on the simulsays website). Also, the website mentions it's compatible with a few Blackberry devices and Windows Mobile Smartphones (not Pocket PC's). You didn't have any problems installing it?
It is a .cab file that you download. After you do setup on their site and download the cab file, it will update itself with a new .cab. The second .cab is for PPC not smartphone. I have no trouble with anything but it's internal notification. As a side note you can setup a notification via email and this works great. I just hate having to apply this fix! Anyone out there without this problem.
What does transcribed do?
ZzFDKzZ said:
What does transcribed do?
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You can get your voicemails transcribed and sent to you via email or text message. You have to pay for this feature.
Tomcat - have you noticed any extra battery drain using this app? I'm wondering if it works sort of like push email, where it's constantly checking if you have new voicemail, or if it only works when you actually get a new voicemail.
I'm removing this. My phone doesn't alert me when I have a voice message. I have to go to the program to check. Also the voice mail volume is really really low.
This looked quite cool, but it seems to require a monthly fee for the service (which is fine, but I wouldn't use it enough to make it worthwhile).
However, I am wondering something now....
I have a wizard and it was said that a wizard is not capable of accessing the audio for the phone, but I see that you can "record" calls on a Hermes. I'd guess this is limited to you recording your side, but if you could record/monitor the incoming signal and I have free voicemail, would it be possible to transcribe messages on the phone when the program is activated by an incoming voicemail notification?
Ahhh pipe dreams...
PT Barnum was right

AIM for the 8525

i currently have the UK version of aim on my fone and its a hassle to have to login by sending a message and even more annoyin to press the send button instead of enter. ive tried other free versions of Aim such as IM+ and didnt like them except Agilemessenger which was good but last only a week. I saw a link to this site that mods the uk version to work by pressing enter but idk how to install it? it just downloads the file and i dont know wat to do with it? can ne1 help me or give me sum other options for free aim messengers that work on the 8525?
here is the link to the file i downloaded.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29210&d=1153123292
thx in advance
I've attached is a modified version of the AIM I use that I snagged off a Treo site back when i had my 700w. Basically, it takes the File Menu that's usually on the bottom, and flips it to the top. It works AWESOME
To press enter to send a message, go into the Preferences and uncheck where it says 'Enter key sends return' or something along those lines.
Other people had problems with AIM staying open.. while using this version of aim and X-Button from HTC (task manager) and my connection 'Always On' in HTCustom AIM runs forever, unless you lose service, in which you have to re-sign on. The sounds and everything work great while it's running in the background, even with the phone off it works. I haven't noticed a big change in battery life either.
Only if there were some type of today plugin for this..
If you need any help feel free to message me..
EDIT: included a screenshot so you can check it out.
cant see text
hey i am using a 6800 on sprint i can sign in and im anyone on a computer but when someone logged in on a cell phone ims me i cant see their text they see mine but i dont see thiers just the time stamp dont know if their is a fix for this or why it happens any info would be great
You can give this one a try. It came with my ATT Tilt. It has all three messengers in one. AIM, Yahoo, and MSN. Hope it helps
Does the OZ IM program that comes on the Tilt use data or SMS?
gthing said:
Does the OZ IM program that comes on the Tilt use data or SMS?
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it uses sms but it won't work on mogul will say md5 digests don't match or something like that.
I've found and begun using palringo. Nothing else I've found so far really compares.
I just wish verichat had a wm version.

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