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Hello,
does anyone here drive a recent BMW that has the Bluetooth phone interface (essentially a bluetooth headset built into the car)? If yes, are you able to use it with an XDA-II?
I can't seem to bond the device with the car - the phone thinks it's done it, but the car just shows "BLUETOOTH PAIRING" and when I try to place a call the phone asks for the passkey and goes through what seems like a successful pairing process - but it does not actually work. The "BMW ULF wants to bond, enter passkey" message keeps appearing and appearing after every seemingly successful bonding attempt.
Anyone?
Marton
bmw bt
with the kind of money you paid for that car, the salesman should come over and do the pairing for you.
I remember reading somthing on this subjet on the forum.
Search the forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4258&highlight=bmw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3981&highlight=bmw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=5029&highlight=bmw
cheers
Thanks guys! I guess I'm out of luck then.
I tried to use a spare Nokia 6600 I had lying around and I got a bit further, but it's still unusable. The Nokia bonds perfectly, I can call with the car's interface, incoming calls ring in the car's speakers - but whenever the call is answered only the phone's speakers and mic work...
Apparently not only does the XDA-II not support the handsfree profile (if you think about it, why should it? it would be a surprise if ANYTHING BT-related worked on it) but the Nokia 6600 is screwed up too.
I guess I'll have to get a Nokia 6310. That's one of the the recommended phones by BMW:
http://www.circlebmw.com/parts/blue/phones.htm
I just thought that since I had a "universal phone kit" in the car it was supposed to work with any recent BT phone. Universal? That list above is shockingly short.
Have you installed the latest version of bluetooth tools?
Well, Bluetooth tools actually made things worse. It still wouldn't bond correctly with the car, but after that it kept connecting and re-connecting to my PC every few seconds, even when BT was off! (It seemed to turn itself on automatically after a few minutes.) The TDK systray notification was driving me crazy. Getting rid of BT Tools solved this partucular problem.
How is the new MDA-II ROM (1.72) in regards to Bluetooth? I hear that some bonding problems have been solved - is the handsfree profile supported yet? I'm tempted to upgrade but given that it's just a beta and it's hard to go back if I end up disliking it is discouraging.
Hi everybody,
I completed some tests using my bluetooth car kit (Audi integrated BT MMI car kit). Here is what I saw :
With the original french ROM (1.18.256.2)
Outgoing calls
90% of the calls were interrupted during dialing or connection. The main problem was UMTS stability with the french mobile operator named SFR. After deactivating UMTS/3G and falling back to GSM, 80% of the calls were interrupted during the first minute of communication because of BT unstability.
Incoming calls
Impossible to take a call : half were immediatly interrupted, half were answered using the internal micro instead of the BT one.
With the JasJam ROM (1.20.305.3)
Outgoing calls
After deactivating UMTS/3G support all the calls are stable. Every thing is working fine and the Audi BT car kit works just fine !
Incoming calls
Still impossible to take a call : quite all are not well handled. BT is still unusable to take calls.
I don't think the BT car kit is the problem, because I am using it every day with a Qtek 8310 (Tornado) and both incoming and outgoing calls are well handled.
If you've got some experience, please share it. I am so disapointed that this marvelous TyTN cannot replace my Tornado, only because this "merdique" (<------ french romantic word ) bluetooth functionnality is not working ! :evil:
Arnaud.
Hi Arnaud,
I too have problems - see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61594
Paul
Im also having problems with carkit.
Jasjam and kjam just dont connect with my carkit (while they pair with it) but Jasjam and all nokia / samsung phones work perfectly well with it. Even Palm treo 650 works.
Is this a problem with iMate sets or with Windows Mobile 5.0?
I've had a friend who also has a TyTN which we tried in my kit and it didn't work. It seems that users with other variants (e.g. Orange) don't have this issue?
Further (non-technical) tests have shown that if you answer or make a call, you can get the audio by going into the call menu and choosing "Turn handsfree off". My uneducated guess here is that there is some issue with the headset feature on the TyTN and by doing this, it resets the headset profile and bingo!
It is a pain in the ar$e doing this for inbound calls, but for outbound it is manageable - you simply dial the number and whilst it is connecting, do the menu->Turn handsfree off workaround. Hopefully the new ROM will fix it - when it arrives!!
Hi All,
Just to put in my experience.
I have an Audi A4 with a Gen II car kit. As there is no handset holder for the TyTn I am using the Bluetooth function.
I have the Orange SPV M3100 variant, which works absolutley fine with the Audi Bluetooth, with one problem....
As I don't yet have a car charger, when the phone goes into sleep mode, it appears to disable bluetooh (I occasionally get a 'BT OFF' signal on the car display). Switching off bluetooth, then switching on again on the phone tends to kick it back into life where it stays live for another ten minutes or so until the phone dozes off again..
I have heard of a few people who have also diagnosed the problem as possbily the phone going to sleep to conserve battery, and solved the problem with an in car charger. I will report back when I have a charger.
Again, I do not suspect the Audi car kit as I have previoulsy used this (on Bluetooth) with a Nokia 6230 and MDA Vario, with no problems at all (the Vario was externally powered from the car).
Maybe you TyTn owners can flash to the Orange ROM ;-)
Same Scenario Different Cast
I have a Lexus GS with BT.... here's my Undesired results
actually, the only Problem i am having is very annoying.
If i receive or make a call after i pair with the Car kit, EVERY Thing is fine,
The sound quality is good, the response time is good (no Delay).
BUT after that call is ended, the BT itself on the jasjam TURNS off...
so i have to turn the BT on After EVERY Single Call (either made or received)
Is this Normal, I don't think so, but i had to ask
I have the Original Ship ROM Arabic version
My BMW handsfree works just fine with my TyTN. No issues other than an occasional BT off (loss of pairing). Interestingly, it's not sleep mode related since it usually works just fine in that mode. Generally, disabling Bt then re-enabling it re-establishes the connection then all is well. I have no issues making or receiving calls.
No doubt CarKit issues will be addressed when HTC releases their ROM update. Recent information tells me that this update is pretty much guaranteed to be an AKU3.0 variant. There's a tremendous amount of BT stack improvements in this AKU that should improve this as well as A2DP bluetooth issues.
.. No issues other than an occasional BT off (loss of pairing). ..
Interesting! I have the same issue with MTeoR.. I wonder if MteoR and TyTn are based on the same HTC device PLATFORM.
Updated my Parrot CK3100 to the newest version and things still don't work too well. When I start a call on the Parrot it takes around 20 seconds to start dialing on the phone, and when I receive a call I have to pick it up, place it on hold, and retrieve from hold to be able to hear the other side.
I wonder what/why they changed in the Bluetooth stack, it worked perfectly on my Wizard...
Renault Laguna II integrated BT kit
Works OK with my Laguna system except for the signal strength indicator. It appears that this information is not sent or translated onto the screen in the car.... Calls are fine though, and I noticed that the car rings immediately, the moment the phone does. Could be because the TyTN has the "turbo lag" explained in another thread tho
Cheers
rmorby said:
Works OK with my Laguna system except for the signal strength indicator. It appears that this information is not sent or translated onto the screen in the car.... Calls are fine though, and I noticed that the car rings immediately, the moment the phone does. Could be because the TyTN has the "turbo lag" explained in another thread tho
Cheers
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Try installing Jetware mobile extender, that adds signal and battery bars as well as network name.
I enabled Remote SIM Acces in the Bluetooth Menu and now my contacts sync on my Audi Bluetooth Car kit with WM 6.1.
Just bought a x7501 and I love it so far with 1 exception, it doesnt appear to like my bluetooth car kit in my 2007 nissan altima
It paired perfectly and everything seemed to go ok, but when I receive a call I can pick it up with the car kit but then it drops the call off the car kit (within 1-2 seconds) then reconnects but without sound (I cant hear people through the device speaker or the car kit). Whats weird is it does not drop the call, it seems to lose connection with the car kit then reestablish (the call timer goes 00:00, 00:01, 00:02, CALL ENDED, 00:00, 00:01, 00:02).
My x7501 seems to work fine with my BT800 headset, and the car kit worked perfectly with my old cingular 8125 (wm5). I did some searching on the forums and saw people with similar issues with car kits but nothing quite like this and nothing specific to this device...On my old 8125 I was using a replacement widcomm stack, is there a replacement stack for the athena I could try to see if it solves my issues?
I have Jetware installed, tried with and without it same problem.
AdmiralUD said:
Just bought a x7501 and I love it so far with 1 exception, it doesnt appear to like my bluetooth car kit in my 2007 nissan altima
It paired perfectly and everything seemed to go ok, but when I receive a call I can pick it up with the car kit but then it drops the call off the car kit (within 1-2 seconds) then reconnects but without sound (I cant hear people through the device speaker or the car kit). Whats weird is it does not drop the call, it seems to lose connection with the car kit then reestablish (the call timer goes 00:00, 00:01, 00:02, CALL ENDED, 00:00, 00:01, 00:02).
My x7501 seems to work fine with my BT800 headset, and the car kit worked perfectly with my old cingular 8125 (wm5). I did some searching on the forums and saw people with similar issues with car kits but nothing quite like this and nothing specific to this device...On my old 8125 I was using a replacement widcomm stack, is there a replacement stack for the athena I could try to see if it solves my issues?
I have Jetware installed, tried with and without it same problem.
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Hi,
try the following:
Before you enter your car, disable bluetooth on the x7501. (Make sure your headset is turned off to prevent autoreconnection from your headset to your x7501)
Enter the car, turn on bluetooth on the x7501 and after that turn on your car kit.
This procedure helped me with nearly the same problem.
Cheers
c0rnholio said:
Hi,
try the following:
Before you enter your car, disable bluetooth on the x7501. (Make sure your headset is turned off to prevent autoreconnection from your headset to your x7501)
Enter the car, turn on bluetooth on the x7501 and after that turn on your car kit.
This procedure helped me with nearly the same problem.
Cheers
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hmm ill give it a try, ill have to figure out how to turn off the carkit. thx
AdmiralUD said:
hmm ill give it a try, ill have to figure out how to turn off the carkit. thx
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Shouldn't be to hard. I think it is off when the car is off...
c0rnholio said:
Shouldn't be to hard. I think it is off when the car is off...
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haha yea i thought about that as i got int the car. sadly i tried it and it didnt work, any other ideas?
Whats weird is the cingular 8525 is on the official approved working devices list on the nissan website. I assume the 8525 uses the default microsoft bt stack which gives me some home. Could it just be registry setting differences between the device that would cause the problem?
I'm having much fun with my new Legend, and I love android 2.1!
Everythings goes smooth except the connection with my car.
I have a pretty new Audi TT from 2008, and with my old phone (t-mobile G1), I used it without a problem for over a year.
One month ago I bought the Legend, and bluetooth connection to the car seems to hang!, Even when I disable bluetooth, the phone becomes slow, and the bluetooth icoon keeps displaying in my notification erea.
One thing works, when I reset the phone, I can use the carkit for about 10 minutes, then it starts to disconnect. The adress book never syncs.
Can people please reply if they got their legend work properly with their bluetooth car kit.
Also when other people have problems, please reply here!
Thnx
I have a mini cooper S with BT car kit.
The connection is good and all the contats are correctly transferred but sometimes the connection has been lost.
It seems it happens during the net switch (between UMTS/GSM).
Same problem here. Kenwood DDX7029 with BT. 5 out of 10 times the phone won't connect when starting the car. Dis- and enabling BT does the trick.
David67 said:
I have a mini cooper S with BT car kit.
The connection is good and all the contats are correctly transferred but sometimes the connection has been lost.
It seems it happens during the net switch (between UMTS/GSM).
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This implies that if you disable data-roaming, it would work all the time?, I'm gonna try that out! Thanks for your reply!
Hi there. My first post in XDA
So cool that I found this thread because I have the exact same problem. I have an Audi A3 and the bluetooth connection is 9 out of 10 times lost during conversations and then the bluetooth icon just hangs until I boot the phone.
I'm gonna try to disable the data-roaming and see whether it works.
Still problem carkit/bluetooth Legend!!
Hi all,
I still/also experience problems with my Audi A4 carkit.
Also my colleague with a Opel Insignia experiencing the same problems.
I have to reset the bluetooth or reboot the phone te fix it
It is very annoying when you loose the bluetooth connection within a call.
I have already sent a message to HTC...and still waiting!
Switching off the data roaming or fix the UMTS/GSM settings doesn't help
Somebody a sollution?
Br Dide
Audi UHV 6654 problems
I have a BIG problem with this car kit connection...BIG means the device is useless till now.
I've paired the Legend with my A4 factory car kit and there are several problems:
1. No sounds come from the speakers (car speakers), still the michrophone is working fine. I had to put the phone on loudspeaker to hear something but of course this is not the normal way of using a car kit
2. There is no sound till the call is actually ongoing (the other party respond)...that means no ringing, busy tone, or whatsoever sound... I don't even know if the call is made if I'm not looking to the phone (and if it's entering power saving mode, I stare at a blank screen).
I don't have any problems of this kind using a Nokia phone and also they (especially point 2) are happening with all smartphones I've tried (WinMo or Android ones).
Is there any software (even a paid one) to outcome this?
Please don't tell me to "try" this and that, I don't want to spend money "trying" things...I would appreciate if someone had a similar problem and managed to solve it somehow.
P.S The phone is brand new (got it for 2 days by now) and it is not rooted.
P.S.2 The car kit is a "basic" one, don't have navigation, contacts downloading and all that stuff...It's a plain BT car kit, I would just like to be able to make and receive phone calls with it.
Seems like many have bad experience in making the legend and car kit work together.
As of yet I could only pair my legend with my blaupunkt audio system, but they have not yet connected each other successfully to make use of the bluetooth feature. I've had no problem at all using my audio set with my samsung galaxy spica's bluetooth. So it probably is not an android issue.
Is there anyone who didn't experience any such trouble with their legend and car audio system's bluetooth ?
To add some more details...
I search for BT devices, phone finds the Audi UHV car kit. Then I'm asked for the pairing password and I enter it, than I get that "connection sound" from the car speakers but the phone is still "connecting..." endlessly. The BT icon on the phone appears but is the standard one, no headset or car kit icon appears (does it have such an icon after all?)
From here...nothing special happens. When I make or receive a call only the phone is ringing, no sounds came from the car speakers. Only when the call is connected, then I have the bord computer showing "Call..." and the radio/CD is muted...and that's all. The conversation can be heard only into the phone not from car speakers as it was the case with the ringing tone before. When call ends, music resumes.
Hi Folk
Ive had a quick search and not found anyone with the same issue.... might be cos the phone is new out.
I have a parrot bluetooth hands-free kit in the car and since changing from the iphone to the DHD i cannot use the call pickup button to call out like i would nomally do in the iphone.
Is there something i need to do or is this function not availble on this phone? Im new to the android software so ive probably missed the obvious.
Thanks in advance
Muzzy
A also have a parrot BT kit ( Mki-9000) but I don't have such issue. I can play music via a2dp, and also I can make calls and everything works fine.
The only issue I have is when i want to answer an incoming call - if I answer through the phone ( by pressing the green button) the sound is not forwarded to the BT kit. I don't have such issues with my Nokia.
I can't test right now what will happen if I answer through the BT kit because my Steering Wheel remote control is out of power.
To resolve your problem try to search the parrot website's forum also check for the latest firmware updates for your device. In the past I have similar issue with HTC3300 but after firmware update it was fixed.
The issue I have (mki9200) is that A2DP seems to be on permantly, so when listening to my ipod through the parrot, if I have satnav on, then the directions come through the parrot kit. If a new email or txt comes in, the notification comes through the parrot. With my old Omnia, I could deactivate the Headset profile (A2DP) and keep the Hands Free profile when I was connected to my parrot.
Can this be done on the DHD.
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jazzymc said:
... The only issue I have is when i want to answer an incoming call - if I answer through the phone ( by pressing the green button) the sound is not forwarded to the BT kit. I don't have such issues with my Nokia.
I can't test right now what will happen if I answer through the BT kit because my Steering Wheel remote control is out of power. ...
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Check out ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834983&page=3 .... my post #22. Should answer your *problem*. I had the same thing when switching from Nokia to HTC .... But if you check a couple of posts later I've also found that I can use the phone to initiate a call and the sound *does* go to the Bt device ....
Dave