Tom Tom 6 and Artemis. Hoping my Initial Impressions may help someone.
Hi,
I'm a newbie... not up to the high standards of others here. But I thought it might be useful to give a newbies initial impressions on running TomTom 6 (application+DVD) on an Artemis.
I ordered TomTom from TomTom online. They quoted up to 5 weeks, but it took 5 days to get the DVD which contains application and Europe map and I received my TomTom 6 this afternoon and loaded it on my XDA Orbit with no real problems. (See below)
This goes against the advice of TomTom who say that it is not supported yet.
I started by resetting the XDA Orbit clean, which obliterated CoPilot.
TomTom 6 installed easily from the installation DVD.
Using the application software, I put the main program in the memory of the XDA, but put the maps and extra bits on a 2GB card. I was nervous about buying a 4gb or larger card , and so purchased a CNEX Flash format program to give me better control of what was happening on the Flash card.
The program installs on the PC first, and shows a split screen showing what's available to you on the left (e.g. DVD) and what's on your Artemis on the right (Memory & Flash card).
Registering was easy, but if you elect to pay for the Traffic reports etc, it's advisory to read the instructions to avoid losing out on the free month.
Finally, I downloaded John Cleese's voice at 10 Euros, since I'm a Python fan. This is nice.
Comparing it to CoPilot some issues struck me.
Good News?
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First,It seems to be working well.
To my mind the range of TomTom extras seems huge and well developed. Colours, maps, layouts, voices. Good stuff.
I don't get CoPilot starting up at every opportunity.. like incoming calls. (Yes I've disabled the button)
I'll add to this thread anything I discover.
Problems?
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First, TomTom does not have an 'Exit' in the program like CoPilot. This was/is a pain.
No doubt I'll discover an answer from some helpful soul soon.
I press the red phone icon when in TomTom which brings up the XDA's menu. I can then I'm select Memory, Programs in use, and hit it over the head with a mallet.
It does raise the question what happens if someone rings me? More investigation needed.
Secondly, Tom Tom does not have a menu structure. You just touch the map which brings up options via icons. It works, but was/is not intuitive for me as CoPilot was.
I think I prefer the 2d direction maps of CoPilot to the 3D of TomTom. But it's early days.
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I have always had low Satellite reception on my XDA Orbit. Particularly in my house. CoPilot vsTomTom made no difference. In the car reception worked fine even with a heated front windscreen.
I've still got some ferreting around to do. I want to increase the warning distance from 200metres for one thing. I've also got to find out about the Traffic Alerts and how it works and can suggest rerouting etc.
All the best.
Hello!
It's obviuos you're quite new to TT, since there is an exit-button in TT, well it's somehow misplaced but it's there. When TT shows the map -> tap on the screen -> hit the next page button twice -> voila the exit button.
To edit the menu to your likings you can build your own TT menu. Onlineversion & Offlineversion. Just to make things clear the TomTom.mnu belongs in \TomTom\SdkRegistry
It does'nt make a difference if you use TT or another GPS-capable software in terms of GPS reception it depends only on the location your are roaming in (and I must say I'm more then positiv suprised with the quality of the GPS chip compared to all other devices I had before). Every software gets the same data from the Orbits inbuild GPS chip (well if you are intend to try MN6 it is likely you will experince problems with the positioning but it's cause MN6 is running slow as hell)
INFO:
There are hundreds of pois out there for TT for almost every thing, some are free and some are...well...search the internet.
...bye DonQ
DonQuichotte said:
Hello!
It's obviuos you're quite new to TT, since there is an exit-button in TT, well it's somehow misplaced but it's there. When TT shows the map -> tap on the screen -> hit the next page button twice -> voila the exit button.
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yep. Day1! Thanks Don. Missed it completely!
DonQuichotte said:
To edit the menu to your likings you can build your own TT menu. Onlineversion & Offlineversion.
Just to make things clear the TomTom.mnu belongs in \TomTom\SdkRegistry
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Thanks. The idea of being able to construct the pages in your own desired order is very appealing.
DonQuichotte said:
It does'nt make a difference if you use TT or another GPS-capable software in terms of GPS reception it depends only on the location your are roaming in (and I must say I'm more then positiv suprised with the quality of the GPS chip compared to all other devices I had before).
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That's helpful. It's my first foray into GPS stuff, and I was suprised when I lost CoPilot over the Christmas period. The o2 rep said that it was the fog, and I still am sceptical that that was the whole story.
DonQuichotte said:
Every software gets the same data from the Orbits inbuild GPS chip (well if you are intend to try MN6 it is likely you will experince problems with the positioning but it's cause MN6 is running slow as hell)
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Could you just expand a bit on this please ? Thanks.
DonQuichotte said:
INFO:
There are hundreds of pois out there for TT for almost every thing, some are free and some are...well...search the internet.
...bye DonQ
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Thanks again
Ann D
Hello,
andromeda9 said:
Could you just expand a bit on this please ? Thanks.
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What exactly do you wanna know? The GPS reception or MN6?
I've taken a look at MN6 about 2 weeks ago and it was not usable in any way. Navigating through the menu was horrible slow and from what I've heard from others it gives voice instructions way too late, just when you have passed destination/turnings. Also calculating the route is very slow.
I had the chance to test MN6 on a PNA (Transonic 6000) the other week and even on this kind of device it was not running that well but much much better than on my Artemis.
...bye DonQ
DonQuichotte said:
Hello,
What exactly do you wanna know? The GPS reception or MN6?
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I'm new to both.. but MN6 really. (I presume MN6 is TomTom6)
DonQuichotte said:
I've taken a look at MN6 about 2 weeks ago and it was not usable in any way. Navigating through the menu was horrible slow and from what I've heard from others it gives voice instructions way too late, just when you have passed destination/turnings.
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I get you. Hence my comment earlier about wanting to give myself more than 200metres warning.
So far not yet past destinations... but it's only day two.
DonQuichotte said:
Also calculating the route is very slow.
I had the chance to test MN6 on a PNA (Transonic 6000) the other week and even on this kind of device it was not running that well but much much better than on my Artemis.
...bye DonQ
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That again is very helpful Don.
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Can you tell me whether the slowness etc is due to the software or is it something else?
I notice a thread about TomTom and T-Mobile MDA Compact 3 and it seems to run ok on that. Isn't the T-Mobile MDA Compact 3 roughly the same as my Orbit is is it the operator making a difference?
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Any tips to watch out for about running TomTom on the Orbit?
e.g. can for example the Artemis be overclocked and resolve some of these weaknesses ? What's your opinion?
Finally, I had NOT noticed but TomTom was booting up at each soft reset. I turned it off but hadn't noticed that the GPRS was still live ... hence a bigger bill for GPRS than I was expecting.
I had a look on the sd card and found the TomTom auto Autorun file called Start.exe in the root Dir of the card. I moved it into another folder and all is ok. Most of the time now TomTom does not start up unless I invoke it.
QUESTION:
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When TomTom exits can the GPRS link be broken off automatically?.. might save me a few pennies?
Thanks
andromeda9 said:
QUESTION 1:
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Can you tell me whether the slowness etc is due to the software or is it something else?
I notice a thread about TomTom and T-Mobile MDA Compact 3 and it seems to run ok on that. Isn't the T-Mobile MDA Compact 3 roughly the same as my Orbit is is it the operator making a difference?
QUESTION 2:
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Any tips to watch out for about running TomTom on the Orbit?
e.g. can for example the Artemis be overclocked and resolve some of these weaknesses ? What's your opinion?
Finally, I had NOT noticed but TomTom was booting up at each soft reset. I turned it off but hadn't noticed that the GPRS was still live ... hence a bigger bill for GPRS than I was expecting.
I had a look on the sd card and found the TomTom auto Autorun file called Start.exe in the root Dir of the card. I moved it into another folder and all is ok. Most of the time now TomTom does not start up unless I invoke it.
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When TomTom exits can the GPRS link be broken off automatically?.. might save me a few pennies?
Thanks
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Hi Ann,
I just got my MDAC3 as well and have just installed TT6 from a DVD. These are my thoughts to your questions above. I did a bit of web searching before I got one though, to find out that YES, the MDAC3 = O2 Orbit = Dopod P800W = HTC Artemis (with(out) various options made possible by Texas Instruments(the makers of the hardware) [MDAC3, Orbit, Dopod P800W are corporate brand names of the various carriers in their relevant countries, but are all know and referred to as ARTEMIS in the development circles.]
Answers to Q1 and Q2: -
I think the slowness may be due to a combination of several things.
a.) The type of microSD card you have in your set - when I was searching to buy one, I noticed there are 2 types : a normal one and and ultra II. The difference is the ultra II has a faster read/write speed, which is affects the general speed/performance of the TT6.
b.) AFAIK(As far as I Know) The orbit has a bit more capabilities than the MDAC3 such as WIFI. This additional function the same processor-OMAP850 has to cater for. Now, this porcessor is not necessarily the most efficient or the fastest available, so impacts performance as well.
c.) If you overclock, there will be a noticable improvement in performance, and a corresponding increase in battery consumption, but this may not translate to an improved experience with TT6, if you have it on a normal card vis ultra II.
The speed of refreshing the map overlay and playing the sound files associated I believe is the reason you hear the instructions after passing the landmarks/turnings, all of which I think is due to the card read/write spead again, plus the processor speed.
Answer to Q3
Its surprising that you mentioned GPRS - as this differs from GPS which the TomTom uses, though I was made to understand that a SatNav software may also use the GPRS (wierd - as this is VERY expensive if you dont have the unlimited package only available cheaply on T-Mobile). You may want to check the the connection settings of the TomTom, changing it to connect using the GPS on a port you set on the hardware.
Start Menu > Settings > System> GPS > Hardware (You may also set the port for TT6 to connect on the Program window.
TT6 starts the GPS receiver upon request for navigation (which I thought was intelligent - to save battery power)
Lastly,
IMOE (In my own Experience) I initially installed the TT6 software + maps from the DVD + POI overlay to the microSD ULTRA II, and noticed it froze up many times then I installed in the phone memory, removed the overlay (TT6 has a manageable one), maps still in the microSD and it stopped freezing up, plus refresh of map was every second.
Now I have overclocked with the hope of a good performance whilst multitasking, which is Ok with some combinations and not with others. Hence my conclusion as stated above. The processor really can be better, but Vs price, it will not be marketable in its class with the many ther products out there at the price it is given.
I hope I have been of some help.
Cheers
AD10
You can use a 2D map mode if you really want to, go to change preferences/ Turn off 3D display.
You can overclock the unit but I have found no valid reason to actually do this.
The GPRS charges are only applicable to the actual data transferred to/ from your device, so don't worry about it remaining connected - if there is no data traffic there will be no extra charges.
Leave the GPS applet alone (the one that exists in the settings menu) this often leads to confusion and is only really needed to be used/ set-up IF you want to run two applications at the same time (not something the Artemis excels at due to the processor power). Set to Other NMEA GPS receiver/ Baud 9600/ COM4 should be all that is required.
As for poor GPS reception, you mention the car has a heated screen, is this Athermic glass which is known to attenuate the signal or a standard wire heater element embeded in the glass (which do not affect GPS performance) - make sure the Quick GPS data is up to date, and don't drive around until the device has actually locked on to the signal - Mike
AD10 said:
Hi Ann,
I just got my MDAC3 as well and have just installed TT6 from a DVD. These are my thoughts to your questions above. I did a bit of web searching before I got one though, to find out that YES, the MDAC3 = O2 Orbit = Dopod P800W = HTC Artemis (with(out) various options made possible by Texas Instruments(the makers of the hardware) [MDAC3, Orbit, Dopod P800W are corporate brand names of the various carriers in their relevant countries, but are all know and referred to as ARTEMIS in the development circles.]
Answers to Q1 and Q2: -
I think the slowness may be due to a combination of several things.
a.) The type of microSD card you have in your set - when I was searching to buy one, I noticed there are 2 types : a normal one and and ultra II. The difference is the ultra II has a faster read/write speed, which is affects the general speed/performance of the TT6.
b.) AFAIK(As far as I Know) The orbit has a bit more capabilities than the MDAC3 such as WIFI. This additional function the same processor-OMAP850 has to cater for. Now, this porcessor is not necessarily the most efficient or the fastest available, so impacts performance as well.
c.) If you overclock, there will be a noticable improvement in performance, and a corresponding increase in battery consumption, but this may not translate to an improved experience with TT6, if you have it on a normal card vis ultra II.
The speed of refreshing the map overlay and playing the sound files associated I believe is the reason you hear the instructions after passing the landmarks/turnings, all of which I think is due to the card read/write spead again, plus the processor speed.
Answer to Q3
Its surprising that you mentioned GPRS - as this differs from GPS which the TomTom uses, though I was made to understand that a SatNav software may also use the GPRS (wierd - as this is VERY expensive if you dont have the unlimited package only available cheaply on T-Mobile). You may want to check the the connection settings of the TomTom, changing it to connect using the GPS on a port you set on the hardware.
Start Menu > Settings > System> GPS > Hardware (You may also set the port for TT6 to connect on the Program window.
TT6 starts the GPS receiver upon request for navigation (which I thought was intelligent - to save battery power)
Lastly,
IMOE (In my own Experience) I initially installed the TT6 software + maps from the DVD + POI overlay to the microSD ULTRA II, and noticed it froze up many times then I installed in the phone memory, removed the overlay (TT6 has a manageable one), maps still in the microSD and it stopped freezing up, plus refresh of map was every second.
Now I have overclocked with the hope of a good performance whilst multitasking, which is Ok with some combinations and not with others. Hence my conclusion as stated above. The processor really can be better, but Vs price, it will not be marketable in its class with the many ther products out there at the price it is given.
I hope I have been of some help.
Cheers
AD10
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Truly excellent stuff.
Thanks!
mikealder said:
You can use a 2D map mode if you really want to, go to change preferences/ Turn off 3D display.
You can overclock the unit but I have found no valid reason to actually do this.
The GPRS charges are only applicable to the actual data transferred to/ from your device, so don't worry about it remaining connected - if there is no data traffic there will be no extra charges.
Leave the GPS applet alone (the one that exists in the settings menu) this often leads to confusion and is only really needed to be used/ set-up IF you want to run two applications at the same time (not something the Artemis excels at due to the processor power). Set to Other NMEA GPS receiver/ Baud 9600/ COM4 should be all that is required.
As for poor GPS reception, you mention the car has a heated screen, is this Athermic glass which is known to attenuate the signal or a standard wire heater element embeded in the glass (which do not affect GPS performance) - make sure the Quick GPS data is up to date, and don't drive a
round until the device has actually locked on to the signal - Mike
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Thank you Mike
They are very very useful tips!
Appreciated
hi there
i have just fot the xda orbit and just trying to find me way round it but i was hopeing for a helping hand from anyone on here , i want a sat nav on it but is there any software you can get which means you dont have to pay to use and i want a to try obatin spb pocket software any ideas how i would get that please
i look forward to hearing form anyone lol
briancross said:
i have just fot the xda orbit and just trying to find me way round it but i was hopeing for a helping hand from anyone on here , i want a sat nav on it but is there any software you can get which means you dont have to pay to use and i want a to try obatin spb pocket software any ideas how i would get that please
i look forward to hearing form anyone lol
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This thread is all about TomTom6. Best Sat-Nav software I have found for the Orbit. Doesn't cost anything to use after you purchase the software, unless you want to add the extra's, like Traffic data or Weather data.
TT6 and WM6 sloww processing
I updated my Orbit to WM6 yesterday and was a bit annoyed that TomTom has slowed down to a point where it's pretty useless for navigating. this is made worse by the fact that on WM5 it was faultless, and a lot faster to process than an Eten glofiish X500, which has a 400MHz processor!
Can I roll my Orbit back to WM5? If so, how do I do it?
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I updated my Orbit to WM6 yesterday and was a bit annoyed that TomTom has slowed down to a point where it's pretty useless for navigating. this is made worse by the fact that on WM5 it was faultless, and a lot faster to process than an Eten glofiish X500, which has a 400MHz processor!
Can I roll my Orbit back to WM5? If so, how do I do it?
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You can download O2 UK WM5 ROM from these forums. just run this and you should be OK back to WM5.
On a different note. I too installed WM6 onto my Orbit and noticed NO slow down in speed of navigation. If anything I noticed it was slightly faster. Not sure why you experience the opposite from me.
Only thing I can think of is:- Did you install O2 WM6? or B&B v4?
Shand359 said:
You can download O2 UK WM5 ROM from these forums. just run this and you should be OK back to WM5.
On a different note. I too installed WM6 onto my Orbit and noticed NO slow down in speed of navigation. If anything I noticed it was slightly faster. Not sure why you experience the opposite from me.
Only thing I can think of is:- Did you install O2 WM6? or B&B v4?
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I've got my upgrade from the official O2 site. tell me more about B&B v4? What is it, where is it, and is it any good? Can I do another install over the O2 WM6? Thanks in advance.
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I've got my upgrade from the official O2 site. tell me more about B&B v4? What is it, where is it, and is it any good? Can I do another install over the O2 WM6? Thanks in advance.
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Go into the mobile 6 thread in the forums. Black & Blue version4 looks a lot better that O2's WM6 and runs a damn site faster too. Do not upgrade to O2 WM6 first though. You need to be running WM5 and then upgrade to B&B 4 as the upgrade does something to the handset and seems to block any further update.
Before you do anything you need to download and install USPL on your handset. If you don't do USPL first you will end up with a stylish "brick"
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Go into the mobile 6 thread in the forums. Black & Blue version4 looks a lot better that O2's WM6 and runs a damn site faster too. Do not upgrade to O2 WM6 first though. You need to be running WM5 and then upgrade to B&B 4 as the upgrade does something to the handset and seems to block any further update.
Before you do anything you need to download and install USPL on your handset. If you don't do USPL first you will end up with a stylish "brick"
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Many thanks for that. I searched the site last night, and found B&B v4, and V3.7, and also USPL. Unfortunately, I had already upgraded with the O2 WM6, so although I have also been able to roll back to WM5 (and TomTom is now back up to speed), I am getting the "Image file corrupted" message with any attempted update, including USPL. Looks like I've been blocked from any updates unless anyone has a solution? I still have my Glofiish X500 running WM6, but the XDA runs TomTom more quickly.
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Many thanks for that. I searched the site last night, and found B&B v4, and V3.7, and also USPL. Unfortunately, I had already upgraded with the O2 WM6, so although I have also been able to roll back to WM5 (and TomTom is now back up to speed), I am getting the "Image file corrupted" message with any attempted update, including USPL. Looks like I've been blocked from any updates unless anyone has a solution? I still have my Glofiish X500 running WM6, but the XDA runs TomTom more quickly.
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This has happened to a few people. Download the file again and try.
P.S. Are you using XP or Vista. Vista seems to be a bit problematic. Some people have gotten Vista to flash ok, I on the otherhand have not.
For complete trouble free flashing use XP.
Run start_uspl.exe file, then after phone has rebooted again, run the ROM of your choice and upgrade to WM6. You won't be disappointed.........unless you run the O2 WM6 which I have found to be a big disappointment.
Success!
Hi Shand359
The Artemis USPL successfully "unlocked" my XDA, and after that it was an easy ROM update - I know have a fully functional B&B v4! Many thanks for your help and advice - donation to PDAViet on it's way.
TomTom v660.1256 map now working just as well as before - just in time for my 10 day driving trip to Spain at the end of the month. I thought I was going to have to buy a TomTom unit, but no need now.
Incidentally, I haven't worked out what "Touch Flo" is all about - can you enlighten me?
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Hi Shand359
The Artemis USPL successfully "unlocked" my XDA, and after that it was an easy ROM update - I know have a fully functional B&B v4! Many thanks for your help and advice - donation to PDAViet on it's way.
TomTom v660.1256 map now working just as well as before - just in time for my 10 day driving trip to Spain at the end of the month. I thought I was going to have to buy a TomTom unit, but no need now.
Incidentally, I haven't worked out what "Touch Flo" is all about - can you enlighten me?
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If you press the windows key ( beside the GPS key) then drag your finger across the screen from left to right, the cube should spin with different icons on it. Looks cool.
Touch Flo
Got it now. Even my teenage son thinks it's "way cooooool"!
Hi all, new here. My MDA Compact lll takes quite some time to get a fix on satellites. It usually takes a couple of minutes or so in my car. Someone on another forum said he upgraded to the Dopod Rom and it made a huge difference in how fast he gets a lock on. I'm using tomtom navigator 6. I don't know anything about dopod rom, what version or how to install it, can someone fill me in please? My MDA is using WM5. Thanks in advance!
Are you using QuickGPS? As the name of this program kinda gives away what it does,so using it will greatly reduce the seek times in finding satellites. Basically it downloads a small file which has the location of satellites valid for the next 3 days or so, so that when TomTom (or any other GPS app) opens it already has a better idea where abouts in the sky to look.
I'd imagine the other person is using that regularly, it can be configured to automatically download the file and can do it when connected to a pc via ActiveSync which is the best way I think. (No GPRS charges incurred this way)
Thanks mark. I've already been using quick gps, ( I have unlimited internet access via my mobile service provider ) but it doesn't make much if any difference. Still curious as to whether this dopod rom will help, and/or, if a hard reset would make any difference. Having said that, I've only had the compact 3 for a few weeks so not sure a hard reset would be necessary.
Anyone else got some advice? I'm just trying to find out how to speed up my gps, whether it's just a hard reset needed or a new rom.
I had the same.
With my original ROM (T-Mobile NL) it took like 1 minute average to get a fix and even then it was only 3 sats.
With the Dopod ROM (WWE) it takes about 30 secs average and i get like 6 sats right away.
Didn't check what makes the differents though, my guess is that it's probably just the updated QuickGPS which you may also find as a seperate .cab to install in WM5.
For updating to WM6 there are a lot of posts already, try looking for the complete idiot's guide post.
I have tried the GPS now for a while and I cant get it to work. I use TomTom 7
I have had it outside for atleast 4-5 minutes and it cant find any satellites
Is there anything I have to do to get it to work?
It only says "Searching for GPS-satellites"...
Hello, what is the version of radio have you got ?
Have you test with Google Maps if the GPS get satellites ?
Look at this post if you find a solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2563369&postcount=6
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Hello, what is the version of radio have you got ?
Have you test with Google Maps if the GPS get satellites ?
Look at this post if you find a solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2563369&postcount=6
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I have the 1.00.25.05
ok normaly with this radio is correct but you can try with the ver .08 here
tell me if is ok now
do you have quickgps enabled ?
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do you have quickgps enabled ?
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Normaly no. Just active it for very bad reception satellites i think.
the gps uses the file you get with quickgps to faster identify the satellites. after 3 days (i think) the file is out of date. if the file is out of date the gps part dose the identification and cycles through the satellites. this can take up to several minutesl. try to activate quickgps und you will get a much faster fix.
I don't think his problem is about getting a faster fix or not.
He's GPS function just does not work properly and cannot read properly the datas received from the satellites, if it ever receives some...
I know the problem because i'm having exactly the same trouble with my Diamond right now, and I even started a thread about this.
You can read it also as a reference if you want.
I used to own a Trinity before, so I can tell without any doubt that there is something wrong with the GPS function on some Diamond, and it is not just a problem of waiting longer or so.
I read the experience from other users and only some radical measures have managed to make their GPS 'wake up' for good:
- erasing the old GPS log files stored in the phone
- taking the battery out of the phone for more than one day and then try to reset it again
- many hard resets and flashing
etc.
If someone who was having the same kind of major GPS problems (GPS not detected at all, Satellites not localized at all etc.) can tell us how he managed to wake his GPS up, that would be great.
With Google Maps you have a GPS Fix or not ? What soft do you use for GPS ?
Perhaps you can test with this soft if it active a good signal. Efficasoft GPS Utilities for Pocket PC
I finally found a solution to wake up my sleeping (beauty) GPS.
The most helpful infos were in that post below, but I did pick other datas here and there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2563369&postcount=6
The funniest thing is that this problem looks like a hardware one, but in fact it's all software related. A problem of configuration, due to the A-GPS function probably.
From what I understand, if you use A-GPS (I mean if you really have access to this special service through your phone operator) everything is fine.
If you don't, then you may get into big troubles like I and many others did...
1) make sure A-GPS function is desactivated (nothing to do with the Quick GPS function)
2)
... just follow the instructions provided by the Oijkn on the link above.
3)
delete as well the file(s) GPSlogs.txt in the windows directory
4)
soft reset
5)
enjoy a very efficient GPS
Thanks everyone, now it works
It seems to be a problem with the A-GPS
Ok i'm happy for you if all it's good
Hi, the link to the post of Oijkn doesn't work, would you mind describing the procedure step by step to improve the GPS performance?
Thank you
peppepep said:
Hi, the link to the post of Oijkn doesn't work, would you mind describing the procedure step by step to improve the GPS performance?
Thank you
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Hi, i paste my post here if you can't read it.
Oijkn said:
hello excuse for my poor english (i'm french).
1 - Soft reset your PPC
2 - Find the file “xtra.bin” (dans \windows et \temp)
3 - Delete the file “xtra.bin”
4 - Reboot your PPC
5 - Prove that there is no more validity of GPSRapide.
(don't download the update)
6 - Try with TT7 now to pick up satellites
7 - If TT7 still does not work put has GPSRapide day by downloading the updating.
PS: Or try in manuel settings, Bauds 57 600 / COM : 4
You can try to launch Google Maps and activate the GPS signal then wait 1 or 2 minutes for the fix.
And then try with TOMTOM, i think with the two solution it's will work fine for you
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riri22 said:
1) make sure A-GPS function is desactivated (nothing to do with the Quick GPS function)
2)
... just follow the instructions provided by the Oijkn on the link above.
3)
delete as well the file(s) GPSlogs.txt in the windows directory
4)
soft reset
5)
enjoy a very efficient GPS
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Hi, how can I make sure that the A-GPS is deactivated?
I desactivated it automatically using a soft called 'Diamond Tweak'.
(I only have a French version of this soft, but if you make a research, you should find the English one)
Otherwise, you might be able to find this tweak in some other post, or in the wiki, as a registry key you can manually edit.
Hi
I use my 3G with Tom Tom maps and the internal GPS. Always worked ok but about 2 days ago it started only connecting for about 10 seconds or not even finding a GPS signal at all. It seems to find the internal GPS unit but then can't find any signals. Have tried it with an 'external' GPS unit and it works fine.
(I tried Orange support and they said it was my GPRS settings !!!!! - at that point after spending 5 mins on the phone I gave up !!)
Any help appreciated
Have you tried using updating the QuickGPS program?
Hi
Yes - it didn't make any difference however
Thanks
Petez1 there a lotsa options, you did try a soft reset i assume, but you can also:
- check if AGPS (assisted GPS) is active on your phone, if so...disable it.
- use the HTC GPS tool to check your GPS status
- re install TT Navigator, and maybe try another version
- in TT Navigator you can either choose 'build in GPS' or 'Other NMEA GPS', both should work, play around a bit....see if it solves your problem.
Last but not least you could give your Jade a hard reset (whipes all the information on your phone, bringing it back to factory state).
Anyways, i sometimes have the same problem as you, esp when i've used the GPS in another application then TT Navigator (GoogleMaps or Footprints). In my case a soft reset solves it.
Put the bold words i used in the excellent Google search function of this forum and you'll find lotsa information.
Hi
Thanks - I checked all these and did a hard reset but still didn't work. I am getting a replacement from Orange
Grateful for your advice
Thanks
YvW...and i'm glad Orange gives you a replacement, cuz when you've tried everything with no solution at all it's probably a hardware issue.
I have a p3300 obviously that i bought with wm6 already on it. The problem is, there is no trace of gps in the registry and in the settings there is only an option for external gps, nothing more. Is there a way to install drivers for the gps only? I'm not sure i'm comfortable flashing seeing as there are so many roms out there for different carriers.. I'm on fido in canada btw
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I have a p3300 obviously that i bought with wm6 already on it. The problem is, there is no trace of gps in the registry and in the settings there is only an option for external gps, nothing more. Is there a way to install drivers for the gps only? I'm not sure i'm comfortable flashing seeing as there are so many roms out there for different carriers.. I'm on fido in canada btw
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Hi
If you mean GPS program, you could always install Navigon.
http://www.navigon.com/portal/sites.html
There is a 30 days free testversion of their Navigator7.
Just remember to change COM-port from 4 to 7 on either the device or in the program.
Oh my mistake, what I meant was that I can not get any satellites with any program. I flashed it yesterday to WM6.1 (Andrew82) but aside from some slight improvements, it made no difference to the function of the gps. I cannot get a fix from any software that i've tried, it's as if the GPS isn't there (although gps test 1.04 says that the gps is starting up, nothing happens). Are there some drivers or something that I can install?
I tried setting com ports to 7/none/4800/auto However, I though it was supposed to be 4/none/4800/auto in the settings, no?
Also if it helps, I only have a setting for external gps, there is nothing with just GPS there in system...
I've tried all kinds of resets, factory rom, but its the same story im afraid... Any ideas HIGHLY appreciated
Also, the HTC gps tool says "Fix not available"
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I tried setting com ports to 7/none/4800/auto However, I though it was supposed to be 4/none/4800/auto in the settings, no?
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It is only the NAVIGON software that uses COM7.
Others I have seen, use COM4. - (So unless you change to Navigon, use COM4.)
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I've tried all kinds of resets, factory rom, but its the same story im afraid... Any ideas HIGHLY appreciated
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I also use AndreW82, but it has no GPS software.
So I use Tomtom Navigator 7
If you use other GPS-software, - have you checked that the program asks for COM4?
Probably som .dat file or something that needs to be altered to COM4.
I had the same problem when I tried Navigon.
First it reported "no GPS found" But after I altered one of the .dat files to COM4, it found the GPS.
(But it took a veeeeeeeeery long time before it found the first sattelites.)
If you want to try, I have attached a test-version of Tomtom. (tomtom7.cab below)
According to Tomtom, NO such testversion exists.
But if you try it, you will at least see if your GPS is working.
(I don't know if it has any maps for Canadian Cities, but at least it should let you see if it finds any sattelites.)
1. Install the cab.
2. Start Tomtom Navigator
3. If settings does not come up automatically, just tap somewhere on the screen.
4. Select, Change preferences
5. Tap blue arrow 5 times
6. Tap Config GPS
And wait for it to find sattelites. Be patient, first time it takes a little longer time.