Make GPRS require an explicit okay - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Is it possible to set the Wizard so you have to *confirm* GPRS access.
I've noticed it has a tendancy to go online and try and sync Mail even though I've got the schedule set to manual but I caught it sneaking downloads again today!

I would like to do this too. It happens if there is an app running in the background, or u move out of wifi.
There must be a way to do this, no?

either that or convince the telcos that people would use GPRS/EDGE a lot more if they didn't charge like every byte was gold plated and they wanted us to become timeshare owners of their celltowers!

That is probalby the reason you can not set a "ok" prompt too...

My MDA Vario asks permission when I open PIE to establish a GPRS connection. So does Opera mini. But other programs may not ask this permission, have not tried too many GPRS apps yet. Probably this option depends on the app that goes online? Not much help from me I am afraid, but just thought I should share this.

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WAP/MSN/Pocket IRC

I phoned O2 up the other day and asked them to enable WAP/GPRS on my phone which they did and asked them for all the settings to connect to websites and such, which they did and it all worked great apart from 2 programs what i wanted to use on my xda2 wont connect
First i tried MSN and that didnt work so i did a search on google and found out that a patch was needed from microsoft. I downloaded, installed and it still didnt work. Then i tried Pocket IRC (not made by microsoft so i thought it mite work) but it didnt, so i thought i would come on here and pester you lot and see if you knew if this was a common problem or if its something that i'v done...
thanks in advance,
Skillz
thats because the above programs use ports, you only get port 80 off o2.. for the internet. Theres no way to make it work
well whats the point in having the program there if we can use it
isnt there a hack of some sort that will allow me to use more ports than 80? :roll:
You can use MSN, PIRC etc with the XDA II, but it wont work over the WAP network. You have to use the MobileWeb APN, which should already be configured by the O2 Active system as the Internet Connection (as opposed to WAP, which is designated the "work" connection), but you need to make sure that the APN is enabled on your SIM card- another call to customer services!
You could also try Agile Messenger or even ChatToGo which supports all the messaging systems, but has a small subscription charge.

GPRS connections out of control?

I am using SPB's GPRS traffic counter and have noticed that without my doing anything, my Jam will download around 100k of data every day (around £0.25 on Vodafone). I can just about survive the financial shock ;-) but I am more worried to know how control connections in general.
Does anyone know what programs on the Jam keep a GPRS connection alive? (I am not using MS Messenger, nor do I have either MS Explorer, the e-mail application or Activesync runnig in the background).
cheers.
I see that you have checked the usual suspects how about MMS this uses GPRS as well maybe you received some? The application you mention (SPB GPRS Monitor) does not tell you which application uses GPRS?
unfortunately is not the mms client - I stopped its installation after a hard reset.
I even go as far as killing off the messaging app and internet explorer with the memory control panel to make sure they don't accidentally run in the background.
my guess is a leaky tcp/ip stack, but i'm still looking for ways of controlling outgoing packets...
cseilern said:
unfortunately is not the mms client - I stopped its installation after a hard reset.
I even go as far as killing off the messaging app and internet explorer with the memory control panel to make sure they don't accidentally run in the background.
my guess is a leaky tcp/ip stack, but i'm still looking for ways of controlling outgoing packets...
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I too have the same Issue. Orange billed me for 2.5MB of data. I aint used the darn thing for GPRS.
Alternetives for SPB GPRS Monitor !?
Does anyone have any alternetives for SPB GPRS Monitor. This program makes the OS on my i-mate JAM very unstabele. So I had to remove this program.
I hope someone can help me pointing to a good alternetive app ! I also couldn't find an application like a SMS counter. Any idea's ?
Thanks for your help and kind regards,
R.
I NEVER leave GPRS connected. I always 're-connect and cancel' to drop my connection after getting email headers ....
However....
one day, in one session at 12noon I racked up £17 with 02. They can not explain it and I was sitting at my desk at work with the XDA docked at the time!!! (with internet pass through if needed!)
This is worse than premium rate calls (which are closely monitored) ... all 02 can say is that at 12noon I downloaded over 7mb !! end of story! no more details. I don't know how it is possible unless it connected to their stupid movie portal and downloaded a massive trailer on it's own? - which I would of noticed!
Well I have a complaint in with them. Just think how many people could get stung (and I know what i'm doing!)
I'm now going to try the above mentioned GPRS counter, but has anyone tried this one ? .... http://www.all-locations.com/ GPRS Traffic Counter v3.2
Rich
cseilern
Do you have a programme such as SPB Pocket Weather.. or any of those 'weather related' today pluggins?... as they connect via GPRS to download latest weather etc..
Hope you find the mischievous programme!
Gero

T-Mobile Internet, Working Apps (IM)?

OK so I am new here, but I am not new to mobile devices at all. In fact I was a Mobility Admin in different forums. So please don't get mad at me for posting here. I have some questions. PLEASE don't play the FLAME the noob game. I swear that I searched far and Wide for my answers but have failed to find them.
So my question: is there anyway to tweak the T-Mobile T-zones Internet?
I can:
Connect to the internet
Download Files
Stream Music (orb)
Stream Video (badly[orb])
Use Google Maps
I can't:
Connect To IM servers, I have tried all of the programs. OZ for T-Mo is the only one that works, but it's horrible.
No YouTube, I can live without this but I hope to get it working.
MIDP can't connect.
Basicly nothing, that doesn't connect from, IE works.
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I have played with the Proxy settings and nothing. I know that with my Treo 650 I could connect through VeriChat, but I can't connect on WM6.
Is there a program out there that can help me fix this?
Again I'm sorry if this is a repost, or an overkill of something, but I want to get this stuff working.
Thanks
-CD85233
I do not have an obvious solution but have also seen plenty of similar comments here from others - not just with T-Mobile either. I am using T-Mobile in the UK and have none of your problems.
I obviously had the original T-Mobile Vario II build (WM5) but now have the Black MAJIK build with WM6 and all has been fine with both. Some people directly accuse T-Mobile of blocking their IM, but I have no issue with it - albeit I use it rarely. Of course it "may" be that T-mobile are indeed blocking some services to 'offenders' (IM is not allowed) but I wonder if their system is that capable.
Obvious questions for you are: what OS are you using? Have you changed ANY comms settings from the original T-Mobile build? Have you tried a hard reset to restore original settings (including the all important T-Mobile extended ROM)?
If you still have the original OS ROM build running then you might try installing the configuration .cab files that are stored on the Extended ROM separately - some apply directly to such device settings. Access to that Extended ROM on the WM5 build is easy and you just need an application such as "HTweakC 2.0" (available here). Of course, and as ever, start with backing-up your device - but you will know that.
I hope this helps.
I have VSWL Rom.
I have setup the internet (GPRS) settins like they are suppose to be.
I believe that it is a fact that T-Mo has blocked ports, and has only left http smtp and pop3 open. So my dilema is why did verichat connect on my Treo 650 and not on my MDA or my 8525.
First we need to know if you are in tmobile usa, uk...????
if you are in tmo usa then you can't
if you have the proxies 216.155.165.50:8080 the most you can use is PIE (pocket internet explorer)
the best thing is to get the blackberry $20 dollar add-on plan and just setup without proxys. wap.voicestream.com and you have full internet access.
I am in the USA, and I have the T-zona 5.99 plan.
I am less than reluctant to close my mind for this not to work, since google maps works. and, as I said, on my Treo 650 using verichat worked perfectly.
I don't know what the difference in the way the Treo 650 connected and the way my 8525 connects.
Perhaps the programs that can connect are ones that ones that connect through port 80 and are proxied to 8080.
I am so lost on this topic though.
too many contractidicting points.
such as streamining works on win but not on palm
IM worked on Palm but on Win.

Wizard using Wifi

Hey,
I have a G4 Wizard, Model Wiza100(With a Camera). I'm using a generic MDA Windows Mobile v6 rom. I recently bought this phone off a friend, mine broke and I didn't want to pay 100s for a rather crappy go phone. I do not have the Data Plan for AT&T and was wondering if there was a way to configure my wizard to NEVER automatically connect to the internet. I'd also like to find a way to have it be able to browse while connected to wifi. Thanks guys, -Strife
Bumb. Any help guys?
Go into start, settings, connections, tap manage existing connections, general tab and tap delete settings. I think this should remove internet connections settings and you wont be able to connect.
Your phone shouldn't connect to gprs anyway unless you open your web browser or other app (like weather program) without being connected to wifi
Sweet, thanks man. I never really need to use the internet on my phone, I was just skeptical of downloading weather addons and such because I didn't want it to access the internet. Also, everytime I let someone use my phone they end up opening internet explorer anyways. I guess we will see the bill at the end of the month, but this should stop it. Thanks again.
Strifex21 said:
Sweet, thanks man. I never really need to use the internet on my phone, I was just skeptical of downloading weather addons and such because I didn't want it to access the internet. Also, everytime I let someone use my phone they end up opening internet explorer anyways. I guess we will see the bill at the end of the month, but this should stop it. Thanks again.
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Then download apps that let YOU decide when things get updated.
Also, you could try using NoData from MoDaCo (free registration on site required to see/download attachments). Pay attention to their warnings, though: you must have GPRS settings installed for it to work
It'll basically render GPRS inoperable unless you absolutely NEED it, then you just run NoData again, and enable GPRS, and Bob's your mother's sister's husband.
Sweet, thanks for the heads up. Seems like I had No Data on my phone from the MDA Rom. Alright cool, well now I know how to use No Data. Thanks again!

My TD2 is going online (EDGE or HSDPA) by itself!

I have the following problem: my HTC Touch Diamond 2 (from T-Mobile) is going online and stays online for hours until I notice and disconnect.
I can't be sure, but it's possible that Mobile Shell is the reason, because I don't have any other running applications. Is this maybe a built-in feature of TD2?
Is this a known issue? Any hints or tips? (ActiveSync and GMail are set to synchronize manually).
yes look in the Options of mobile shell
its the weather Programm that uses these autoConnects all the time
ive had the same "problem" as well...
if u have SPB Traveler too, then uve to look in every single programm option
SPB Traveler options
SPB MObile Shell options
SPB weather options
take out the automaticly updates...
fixed =D
I've checked Windows Update and Weather Update. Both are off.
I've found that I have a suspicious widgetmanager.exe running on my PDA. Is this coming from Opera? I'll kill it and see if it helps.
Maybe it's the (totally useless) PushInternet service of Opera.
Here's how you can stop it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532948&highlight=stop+pushinternet
But the problem is that sometimes you want to browse some saved pages.
There are some saved pages that still require connection to update something.
And the phone goes on-line automatically WITHOUT asking the user. This annoys me a lot, since I have a fixed traffic amount and I don't want to spend it unawares.
I solved this issue by modifying a letter in my default connection.
This way, when the phone tries to go on-line automatically I get an error message saying it cannot connect. Now, depending on my needs, I either dismiss the message to stay off-line or fix that modified letter to go on-line.
To modify your default connection:
Settings tab, All settings, Connections tab, Connections, Manage existing connections, Click your default connection, Edit, Next, (here change the "Access point name" -- my last letters are .ro and I delete the "o"), Next and then Finish.
Maybe this solution is a bit rough but it works for me and I'm happy .
What's the problem? I have always a data connection open on my phone, 24 hours a day. You only pay for the amount of data, not for staying online.
I was referring to traffic.
The phone transfers data without asking my permission.
> You only pay for the amount of data, not for staying online.
The phone is connecting to the Internet automatically upon necessity. The fact that the connection is open means that some program or service had the necessity and transferred the data (at least one byte, but likely more). So the traffic is not zero in this case.
Another reason is that I pay 7EUR per every day that I connect to the Internet + the traffic price.
And reason #3 is that I want to know and control what my phone is doing and not otherwise.
I'm still observing the situation, this widgetmanager.exe is likely the source of the problem, but can't confirm it 100% yet.
Try SPB Wireless Monitor, then you can see whats connected, amount of traffic etc.
No need of buying, just use the trial for 15 days
Thanks for the tip. I have used it. That's how I know about widgetmanager.exe downloading something. I keep it killed and wait for the problem to reappear. After 24 hours I'll know if it's widgetmanager.exe or not.
I like your solution and I am going to give that a try. Thank you.
widgetmanager.exe was the reason. It comes with T-Online ROM. Thank you everybody for your help. Issue closed.
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