My TD2 is going online (EDGE or HSDPA) by itself! - Touch Diamond2, Pure General

I have the following problem: my HTC Touch Diamond 2 (from T-Mobile) is going online and stays online for hours until I notice and disconnect.
I can't be sure, but it's possible that Mobile Shell is the reason, because I don't have any other running applications. Is this maybe a built-in feature of TD2?
Is this a known issue? Any hints or tips? (ActiveSync and GMail are set to synchronize manually).

yes look in the Options of mobile shell
its the weather Programm that uses these autoConnects all the time
ive had the same "problem" as well...
if u have SPB Traveler too, then uve to look in every single programm option
SPB Traveler options
SPB MObile Shell options
SPB weather options
take out the automaticly updates...
fixed =D

I've checked Windows Update and Weather Update. Both are off.
I've found that I have a suspicious widgetmanager.exe running on my PDA. Is this coming from Opera? I'll kill it and see if it helps.

Maybe it's the (totally useless) PushInternet service of Opera.
Here's how you can stop it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532948&highlight=stop+pushinternet
But the problem is that sometimes you want to browse some saved pages.
There are some saved pages that still require connection to update something.
And the phone goes on-line automatically WITHOUT asking the user. This annoys me a lot, since I have a fixed traffic amount and I don't want to spend it unawares.
I solved this issue by modifying a letter in my default connection.
This way, when the phone tries to go on-line automatically I get an error message saying it cannot connect. Now, depending on my needs, I either dismiss the message to stay off-line or fix that modified letter to go on-line.
To modify your default connection:
Settings tab, All settings, Connections tab, Connections, Manage existing connections, Click your default connection, Edit, Next, (here change the "Access point name" -- my last letters are .ro and I delete the "o"), Next and then Finish.
Maybe this solution is a bit rough but it works for me and I'm happy .

What's the problem? I have always a data connection open on my phone, 24 hours a day. You only pay for the amount of data, not for staying online.

I was referring to traffic.
The phone transfers data without asking my permission.

> You only pay for the amount of data, not for staying online.
The phone is connecting to the Internet automatically upon necessity. The fact that the connection is open means that some program or service had the necessity and transferred the data (at least one byte, but likely more). So the traffic is not zero in this case.
Another reason is that I pay 7EUR per every day that I connect to the Internet + the traffic price.
And reason #3 is that I want to know and control what my phone is doing and not otherwise.
I'm still observing the situation, this widgetmanager.exe is likely the source of the problem, but can't confirm it 100% yet.

Try SPB Wireless Monitor, then you can see whats connected, amount of traffic etc.
No need of buying, just use the trial for 15 days

Thanks for the tip. I have used it. That's how I know about widgetmanager.exe downloading something. I keep it killed and wait for the problem to reappear. After 24 hours I'll know if it's widgetmanager.exe or not.

I like your solution and I am going to give that a try. Thank you.

widgetmanager.exe was the reason. It comes with T-Online ROM. Thank you everybody for your help. Issue closed.
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Make GPRS require an explicit okay

Is it possible to set the Wizard so you have to *confirm* GPRS access.
I've noticed it has a tendancy to go online and try and sync Mail even though I've got the schedule set to manual but I caught it sneaking downloads again today!
I would like to do this too. It happens if there is an app running in the background, or u move out of wifi.
There must be a way to do this, no?
either that or convince the telcos that people would use GPRS/EDGE a lot more if they didn't charge like every byte was gold plated and they wanted us to become timeshare owners of their celltowers!
That is probalby the reason you can not set a "ok" prompt too...
My MDA Vario asks permission when I open PIE to establish a GPRS connection. So does Opera mini. But other programs may not ask this permission, have not tried too many GPRS apps yet. Probably this option depends on the app that goes online? Not much help from me I am afraid, but just thought I should share this.

how NOT to connect to GPRS

hi all,
i have an unlimited GPRS plan and hence connected 24 hours....
however, this uses up a lot of battery and frankly, there are times when i do not wish to be online!
problem is, even if i disconnect the GPRS, it reconnect automatically after a while.
is there any way to prevent the phone to auto reconnecting?
Search the forum for the modaco nodata cab file
This great tool lets you toggle on/off the connections.
For easy use, you can create a shortcut for it on your today screen and toggle it on/off whenever you want
Hope this helps
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Do you use an exchange server? If you do, it may be due to Active Sync trying to connect to the exchange server.
pfft.. you think GPRS is bad? try EVDO.. my 6700 barely lasts a day (with Activesync/push email)
you could also use a combination of mortscript and vijay555's VJVolubilis to disconnect qutomatically at a time or period (ie, every 10 mins) you define
bbobeckyj said:
link in my signature
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is there any reason nodata would give an error on a wm 6.0 standard device?
Alkemist said:
is there any reason nodata would give an error on a wm 6.0 standard device?
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the only error that i know of is when the phone has no data connection details on it, ie a custom rom which does not include gprs settings, it will give an error until you add the settings.
use something like Advanced Config... You can disable GPRS somewhere in this program... It has many other stuff you can do with your phone...

Wizard using Wifi

Hey,
I have a G4 Wizard, Model Wiza100(With a Camera). I'm using a generic MDA Windows Mobile v6 rom. I recently bought this phone off a friend, mine broke and I didn't want to pay 100s for a rather crappy go phone. I do not have the Data Plan for AT&T and was wondering if there was a way to configure my wizard to NEVER automatically connect to the internet. I'd also like to find a way to have it be able to browse while connected to wifi. Thanks guys, -Strife
Bumb. Any help guys?
Go into start, settings, connections, tap manage existing connections, general tab and tap delete settings. I think this should remove internet connections settings and you wont be able to connect.
Your phone shouldn't connect to gprs anyway unless you open your web browser or other app (like weather program) without being connected to wifi
Sweet, thanks man. I never really need to use the internet on my phone, I was just skeptical of downloading weather addons and such because I didn't want it to access the internet. Also, everytime I let someone use my phone they end up opening internet explorer anyways. I guess we will see the bill at the end of the month, but this should stop it. Thanks again.
Strifex21 said:
Sweet, thanks man. I never really need to use the internet on my phone, I was just skeptical of downloading weather addons and such because I didn't want it to access the internet. Also, everytime I let someone use my phone they end up opening internet explorer anyways. I guess we will see the bill at the end of the month, but this should stop it. Thanks again.
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Then download apps that let YOU decide when things get updated.
Also, you could try using NoData from MoDaCo (free registration on site required to see/download attachments). Pay attention to their warnings, though: you must have GPRS settings installed for it to work
It'll basically render GPRS inoperable unless you absolutely NEED it, then you just run NoData again, and enable GPRS, and Bob's your mother's sister's husband.
Sweet, thanks for the heads up. Seems like I had No Data on my phone from the MDA Rom. Alright cool, well now I know how to use No Data. Thanks again!

IE is the only app that can connect to internet.

I'm hoping someone can help me. I have an AT&T tilt. I've had it for a year with no problems. Yesterday I tried opening Opera 9.5 and it just hung at connecting to media net. I tried a soft reset, I've tried removing the batteries and reinstalling opera. The problem still persists. I tried leaving it alone to connect to media net, and found google had loaded about an hour later. Unfortunately the browser was still non-responsive. After taking a look at other programs, I discovered, Internet Explorer is the only app that works. Even messaging doesn't, it hangs while trying to connect to download mail. I tried leaving it alone like I did for Opera an found it "logging on" about an hour later, but it was hung. I've also tried turning on WiFi, but Opera still cannot connect.
From what I can see, it looks like there's an issue connecting up to the network, however, I can't explain why IE can do it, but everything else can't. Does anyone have any idea or suggestions for troubleshooting this one?
Thanks in advance.
hi,
try this opera fix.
http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?showtopic=101958&st=430&p=749204&#entry749204
as for messager live .. good luck with that .. as far as I can see, the only solution is to do a hard reset and AVOID using the auto configurator in the email setup.
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" bad news for Windows live/ hotmail users is that they do not get the chance to select the network connection a windows live/hotmail account uses. On the very first part of the e-mail setup, as soon as you type in "[email protected], or [email protected]" , the account wizard completely takes over declaring that "settings found for hotmail.com". And even after you type in all your details you do not get to option to select the network connection to be used. (This is consequence of the fact that Microsoft Windows Mobile thinks it knows best how to configure microsoft based e-mail accounts for windows mobile.) The network connection that is automatically selected is called "The Internet". As you cannot select another network connection, you must edit "The Internet" connection so that it has the right settings for your particular mobile service provider. To do this"
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304159
But the strange thing is that I cannot find The Internet connection settings. So i cannot edit The Internet networking settings. Apparently, the end user is deem too stupid to know how to edit it correctly, so it's set automatically and hidden from view. Still investigating.

Selectively disable net access by app?

I have a Touch Pro2 which connects to the net every 15 minutes for reasons that I'm not aware of (I have Outlook and Weather set to Manual, have disabled Latitude in Google Maps, etc). SPB Wireless Monitor tells me only that system.exe or services.exe are doing the accesses.
Since my provider charges per session this can get quite expensive, so I've been forced to turn 3G/GPRS access on/off manually using NoData.
Is there a way of selectively enabling net access for designated applications only? e.g. allowing it to Opera and Outlook only by default, and selectively enabling other apps on demand?
Alternatively, is there a way of finding out which apps are trying to access the net without my knowledge? (e.g. by forcing a prompt every time an application attempts 3G/GPRS access)?
TIA for any tips
Ian
itm said:
Alternatively, is there a way of finding out which apps are trying to access the net without my knowledge? (e.g. by forcing a prompt every time an application attempts 3G/GPRS access)?
Ian
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Hi,
If you grab a trial of SPB Wireless Monitor,that will show what apps and how much data has been used per application.
i think this is a greate idea. someone should really develop this.
basically the user would provide the application with an approved list of applications that can connect using the 3g/edge connection. the rest can only connect using wifi or activesync
GLO said:
Hi,
If you grab a trial of SPB Wireless Monitor,that will show what apps and how much data has been used per application.
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but it doesnt do anything after it tells you this stats.
a simple application similar to "no data" should still be developed. what do you all think?
look into your taskmanager
RSSHub ? QuickGPS ?
good look
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Alternatively, is there a way of finding out which apps are trying to access the net without my knowledge? (e.g. by forcing a prompt every time an application attempts 3G/GPRS access)?
Ian
THE GRIZZ said:
but it doesnt do anything after it tells you this stats.
a simple application similar to "no data" should still be developed. what do you all think?
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Sure, this wont stop the apps, but as the OP had asked, this will let him know what apps are accessing the NEt
GLO said:
Hi,
If you grab a trial of SPB Wireless Monitor,that will show what apps and how much data has been used per application.
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SPB Wireless Monitor tells me only that system.exe or services.exe are doing the accesses.
Mamamam said:
look into your taskmanager
RSSHub ? QuickGPS ?
good look
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I tried installing and runnign TaskMgr but it hangs during startup on my TouchPro2. What's the best alternative Task manager app?
itm said:
SPB Wireless Monitor tells me only that system.exe or services.exe are doing the accesses.
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I suspect that they are your Network Operator settings checking for updates or
something like that.
GLO said:
I suspect that they are your Network Operator settings checking for updates or
something like that.
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They make 87 connections in 18 hours - does that sound likely? It works out very expensive for those tariffs which charge a per-connection fee.
Any idea how I could disable this (or confirm that this is indeed the explanation)?
Hutchison3G sets up virtually all their supplied phones with network configurations to connect very frequently like what you describe.
See if you can simply disable your data connection. As with H3G in Australia, you dont get charged when it is simply accessing its own intranet, and when its roaming it only displays a 'lite' homepage.
Perhaps consider a non-network issued rom, or determine whether that data is 'free intranet' or not.
GLO said:
See if you can simply disable your data connection. As with H3G in Australia, you dont get charged when it is simply accessing its own intranet, and when its roaming it only displays a 'lite' homepage.
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I already use NoData to manually enable/disable the data connection when it's required/not required. I was just hoping for a more elegant solution to stop unauthorised apps incurring data charges, while not sacrificing the convenience of automatic access for apps that I use alot (like Opera and Outlook)
hope someone develops this
You can try PPC version of ProxyCap to restrict or proxify access per application - http://www.proxycap.com/
It doesn't pop up when an aplication attempts to communicate with the Internet, so manual configuration is required. You'll need to set up proxy bypass for the applications you want to be allowed to connect and use localhost as a proxy by default, so that other applications can't communicate with external hosts. You can also filter traffic based on destination IPs and ports. E.g. an easier solution may be to allow http and https traffic only for all applications and drop everything else if you only need to use a web browser.
ProxyCap may not prevent your GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA connection from being established every time, but at least there will be application or protocol filtering in place and thus less unexpected traffic. ProxyCap does not seem to be able to filter ICMP traffic. It appears to be allowing DNS traffic through regardless of the filtering configuration too, as it can't be proxified and is required for proper name resolution.
Another alternative is PPC firewalls like
http://www.airscanner.com/products/firewall/
and
http://www.anthasoft.com/anthafirewall-firewall-for-mobile-device.php
I haven't used any of these products though and can't recommend them.
Both seem to be more user friendly than proxycap though.

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