WAP/MSN/Pocket IRC - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

I phoned O2 up the other day and asked them to enable WAP/GPRS on my phone which they did and asked them for all the settings to connect to websites and such, which they did and it all worked great apart from 2 programs what i wanted to use on my xda2 wont connect
First i tried MSN and that didnt work so i did a search on google and found out that a patch was needed from microsoft. I downloaded, installed and it still didnt work. Then i tried Pocket IRC (not made by microsoft so i thought it mite work) but it didnt, so i thought i would come on here and pester you lot and see if you knew if this was a common problem or if its something that i'v done...
thanks in advance,
Skillz

thats because the above programs use ports, you only get port 80 off o2.. for the internet. Theres no way to make it work

well whats the point in having the program there if we can use it
isnt there a hack of some sort that will allow me to use more ports than 80? :roll:

You can use MSN, PIRC etc with the XDA II, but it wont work over the WAP network. You have to use the MobileWeb APN, which should already be configured by the O2 Active system as the Internet Connection (as opposed to WAP, which is designated the "work" connection), but you need to make sure that the APN is enabled on your SIM card- another call to customer services!
You could also try Agile Messenger or even ChatToGo which supports all the messaging systems, but has a small subscription charge.

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WAP and Yahoo!

On a PC, you can go to http://wap.oa.yahoo.com, and login to your yahoo account to read your emails, etc.
If I do the same from my XDA2, it says "Unable to connect: Ensure that your modems are present and inserted correctly, and no network card present".
If I try this with any other web site (e.g. http://www.bbc.co.uk) it connects and works fine.
Does anyone else get this, and does anyone know a way around it?
Thanks!
On my XDA, http://wap.oa.yahoo.com works fine.
But WAP stinks on a capable device like the XDA or XDAII. Why not use http://www.yahoo.com instead, or set up your Inbox to download your Yahoo headers and/or messages?
can i realy do that?? setup INBOX for yahoooo???
please show me how! i couldnt even set the outlook express on PC to do that!
thanks a million.
pdhenry said:
Why not use http://www.yahoo.com instead, or set up your Inbox to download your Yahoo headers and/or messages?
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You can only do this if you pay extra for POP3 access to Yahoo emails - which I don't want to do as this isn't my primary email account.
Also, going through http://www.yahoo.com means you get all the ads, graphics, etc. Even over a GPRS line, this makes it quite painfull.
d-o-h! said:
On a PC, you can go to http://wap.oa.yahoo.com, and login to your yahoo account to read your emails, etc.
If I do the same from my XDA2, it says "Unable to connect: Ensure that your modems are present and inserted correctly, and no network card present".
If I try this with any other web site (e.g. http://www.bbc.co.uk) it connects and works fine.
Does anyone else get this, and does anyone know a way around it?
Thanks!
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I just got a new XDA II and I could access Yahoo without problems. After an involutary hard reset all the O2 stuff got installed (seems it was not installed the first time I used the device), and now I'm having the same problem as you're describing. Has O2 added something "clever" so that if it sees "wap" in the path, it thinks it should use a wap connection? In any case I can't find these settings and delete it. I want it to work as it did before the hard reset! Help!
Try wsp://wap.oa.yahoo.com insted of http://wap.oa.yahoo.com
HTTP = PC
WSP = WAP
8)
cheers
WSP doesn't work either. Probably because that signals even more to the computer that you're trying to establish a WAP connection, which I don't want to do and which isn't set up either. The funny thing is that it worked before the hard reset, and I never had any problems on my old XDA I.
I managed to remove all the O2 stuff from the extended ROM, and after a hard reset, I can now access http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail again! Once you access http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail, the path changes to http://wap.oa... and from this point on it complained. Until I removed the O2 stuff. So now I'm happy it works, but I'd still like to know what settings O2 infiltrated to stop it from working. Does anyone have a clue?
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So now I'm happy it works, but I'd still like to know what settings O2 infiltrated to stop it from working. Does anyone have a clue?
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I think it have something to do with Connection settings and or Registery settings for Browser ID string (User ID String)
example:
Of youre browser ID is "Mozilla/4.0(compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320)" Than you w'll get a diffrent page if you have something else.
After I changed my Browser ID (to see more free stuff from orange GRPS/Orange World) I cant get the colored page of Yahoo Too.
Can you post here youre Browser ID please?
To see youre browser ID string, Visit http://www.showip.com on youre PPC, and let me know please.
Cheers
I just bought an XDA2i and am having the same problem with the mobile Yahoo site. Since nobody has managed to unlock the extended ROM in XDA2i yet , I cannot remove the O2 stuff that is causing the problem (forcing a different connection for web adresses starting with "wap"). On my XDA2 i could unlock the extended ROM and remove the O2 bits, and this solved the problem. With XDA2i I'm stuck...

Suddenly PIE doesn't browse to websites! Stuck "Locatin

Enough is enough.
I had the same **** with my old PDA2K and now again with the Exec... I've spent 20 hours thus far on that ****. I just hard reset my machine yesterday and now again this **** happens and I cannot fix it.
I am surfing using UMTS/GPRS.. My definitions are FINE. There's only one connection. It was always fine that way on both the pda2k and the new exec.. but it stopped working now... it could be that some program messed up this ****, but i wouldn't know which.
Trying to browse to a site.. I get PIE saying 'Locating..." then after a minute or so saying "The page cannot be displayed or downloaded blah blah blah"... But the 3GUMTS is connected just fine.. Note that MSN Messenger doesn't work as well (I think that's because it's uses the core engine the PIE uses). Strangely, using networking utilities (vx) I can ping with the machine and even get HTML pages using web addresses. So the problem is not DNS and not a connection problem.. Just probably some damn problem with the operating system not recognizing something.. The 3rd party vxutilities for networking are bypassing that **** hence why they can browse the network just fine.
Tried deleting temp internet files and cookies nada... I also tried soft reset (about 20 times).. nada.... tried deleting the connection and recreating... nada... tried searchiong the registry for my connection name after deleted to see if traces exists.. nada...
Getting tired of this ****.. only hardreset solved it last time and i'm getting sick of becoming the machine's slave rather then the machine being my slave.
Help would be grately apprecaited..... I am sure it's ****ed up registry entry or something like that... I don't have many programs isntalled on my machine as I just hard reseted yesterday and my machine is in rather clean condition except for must have apps.
Help...SOS..
Check your proxy server info (in connections).
My XDA exec just loves to grab my work proxy server and try use that for accessing the web when wifi is active.
Check your proxy server info (in connections).
My XDA exec just loves to grab my work proxy server and try use that for accessing the web when wifi is active.
$20 for a solution
dikkyboy said:
Check your proxy server info (in connections).
My XDA exec just loves to grab my work proxy server and try use that for accessing the web when wifi is active.
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Thanks for trying to help...
but that's not the issue.. it's wwaayy deeper than that... ( i would have found it after 20 hours of trying had it been this easy ...
No proxy whatsoever. I never used Wifi. No work setup.. only "My ISP Setup".
anybody else? I'm offering $20 by paypal for the kind soul who can help stop my frustration WITHOUT hardresetting my machine or doing drastic moves. I need a permanent solution. If I solve it before so.. I will post my fix here...
UPDATE:
It's working now, though I don't like the solution, I changed in 'Connections' to connect through 'My Work Network' although I don't actually have any work network and I'm using it the same way I used the "My ISP" connection. It may stop working again though. i'll update.. but I still don't get it why the normal My ISP which always worked stopped working.
Are you, maybe, using the SBSH Weather?Are you, maybe, using the SBSH Pocket Weather?
For me the same thing started after I installed SBSH PW…
zormic said:
Are you, maybe, using the SBSH Weather?Are you, maybe, using the SBSH Pocket Weather?
For me the same thing started after I installed SBSH PW…
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Thanks, but I'm actually using SPB Weather
com'on someone please help me out here. i'll donate another 20 euro to this site if i find a solution... What I did yesterday (changed it so that it will use only the 'My work' profile both both internet and work worked fine.. but only for 24 hours. it now doesn't work again even after multiple softresets as well as deleting and defining the account again.. what a frustartion.
Now only that i cannot use PIE, I cannot use Terminal Server as well.. which is a bummer
Toggle flight mode on and then off.
Have ever try to remove check box of proxy in network tab? With mine it works.
proxy issue
I noticed the same thing on my wizard, I think it may be caused by an internet explorer automatic configuration script. When I manually provide the ip address and port number of the proxy server, the problem does not appear. I changed this in Internet Explorer running on my PC and in the Work connection on my phone. I have also changed the setting in Active Sync to choose the Work Network setting by default instead of automatic.
The only way I got Internet Explorer back to work was after a hard reset.
It did not happen again in the past 1,5 week. I have been restoring the same backup after each of these hardresets so I had an identical install everytime. It seems to be fine now.
I don't know how WM5 handles Active Directory policies (if it handles them at all) that may change your IE settings as well.
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Re: proxy issue
"Check your proxy server info (in connections).
My XDA exec just loves to grab my work proxy server and try use that for accessing the web when wifi is active."
My wizard does the same, it will work for a week or so and try using some random proxy for no reason!
I just uncheck the proxy tick box and the wifi connection works great with internet explorer. (well usually I tear my hear out for 5 mins and then realise its the proxy!)
R
i had same problem! but opera browser would work fine!
i am also using spb weather but i dont think its that
i tried a few things but iv noticed if u keep the ie cach setings and location as default it may be fine, after not changing the ie cache location iv not had this problem, where asbefre i always used my card for ie cache.
all working fine now inc spb weather
PIE stuck at Locating
Hi mobiler,
I hope you have found a more permanent solution to your problem. I own an MDA Pro with TMobile UK and recently bacame plagued with the same symptoms which you reported, i.e., pocket explorer and opera mobile stuck at locating and not able to browse the web. Through some helpful suggestions on this thread I managed to find a solution which you may or may not have already tried. Like most people, I use my MDA pro at home on my home wireless Wifi network, and while away at work I use its GPRS/UMTS capabilities. I had no reason to think that these two features of the MDA Pro had any interactions with each other. In fact, I seem to remember reading somewhere that separate pieces of internal hardware provide these features. However, to my surprise/dismay I discovered that somehow the Wifi and GPRS/UMTS settings on the MDA pro are linked together. For example, if you setup a proxy server in the GPRS modem settings, which I recently did, without notifying you the Wifi connection also tries to use the same proxy setting. Vice versa if you setup a specific IP address and Gateway in your Wifi settings the GPRS modem connection also tries to use those settings and failing. The solution for getting back to normal internet browsing was to remove the proxy in modem connection by using its automatic settings ,and to tick the server assigned IP address for Wifi. This is a less than satisfactory solution, however, at least things are back to where they were before. I remain very puzzled at the interaction between these features and am dismayed and frustrated that there is nothing in the step by step procedures in each setting that warn you about a possible impact on the other.

1st post as XDA EXEC owner some ???

Just got my EXEC XDA this weekend, tried setting up my GPRS,MMS settings (using T-mobile USA) all my settings seem right; but I can't get get pocket IE to open, I can however get Opera to open and surf, so I think my settings are correct? I also cannot connect to my email accounts(yahoo,gmail) it tries to connect then says connection lost, but actually the GPRS connection is still active. What do I need to do to fix this? All help welcomed. Thanks
sounds like pie is corrupt (outlook uses it's tcp/ip stack as well)
i'd hard reset.
Damn, I was hoping I could go awhile without having to do that already, I don't have Outlook on my computer so I skipped that portion of active-sync. How would it have corrupted?
well grats on your exec dude, its something you will like
Maybe if it was ebayed someone had 'tried' things with some of the xda files, im not sure how to fix this but not installing the office outlook on your pc shouldnt have caused a problem.
Thanks, It's a new unit, so I hope thats not the problem maybe I should run it in corporate mode?
If it's just a settings issue (and not a corruption problem), there's a cab file that youn can install that has the T-mobile USA GPRS settings. I can email it to you if you PM or IM me with your email addy. It doesn't do the MMS settings, which I can't seem to get working on my device.
well if thats the case, try get in touch with the suppliers of the phone, ask them if theyve had any probs etc, im sure you'l get it fixed

MDA, IM, $5.99 t-mobileweb

well I did a search and didn't find out exactly what I wanted so I'll ask it. I think I know the answer but wanted to make sure.
I have have the $5.99 t-mobileweb plan on my MDA using the proxy. After the May 9th patch, obviously only basic ports are allowed now. I can still use the OZ IM that came on the MDA but the MSN Messenger will not connect. I assume this is because it uses full data (as opposed to SMS with OZ) and it uses a non standard port. Is there any way around this without upgrading my plan? Is there possibly another MSN or IM application that uses SMS only or that the ports can be changed on how they connect?
You're doing good if you can even get anything to connect. I cant even get to the t-zones. ie just says opening and then it sticks there after I click the t-zone link. Eventually it comes up with a pop up box that says that it lost the connection, to try again later.
Nevermind, fixed that using the proxy settings. I don't know what to tell you about your MSN messenger though. You'd think they would still allow that connection. You might try IM+ it has msn built in and has a free trial.
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ok...thanks for the spam lol

T-Mobile Internet, Working Apps (IM)?

OK so I am new here, but I am not new to mobile devices at all. In fact I was a Mobility Admin in different forums. So please don't get mad at me for posting here. I have some questions. PLEASE don't play the FLAME the noob game. I swear that I searched far and Wide for my answers but have failed to find them.
So my question: is there anyway to tweak the T-Mobile T-zones Internet?
I can:
Connect to the internet
Download Files
Stream Music (orb)
Stream Video (badly[orb])
Use Google Maps
I can't:
Connect To IM servers, I have tried all of the programs. OZ for T-Mo is the only one that works, but it's horrible.
No YouTube, I can live without this but I hope to get it working.
MIDP can't connect.
Basicly nothing, that doesn't connect from, IE works.
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I have played with the Proxy settings and nothing. I know that with my Treo 650 I could connect through VeriChat, but I can't connect on WM6.
Is there a program out there that can help me fix this?
Again I'm sorry if this is a repost, or an overkill of something, but I want to get this stuff working.
Thanks
-CD85233
I do not have an obvious solution but have also seen plenty of similar comments here from others - not just with T-Mobile either. I am using T-Mobile in the UK and have none of your problems.
I obviously had the original T-Mobile Vario II build (WM5) but now have the Black MAJIK build with WM6 and all has been fine with both. Some people directly accuse T-Mobile of blocking their IM, but I have no issue with it - albeit I use it rarely. Of course it "may" be that T-mobile are indeed blocking some services to 'offenders' (IM is not allowed) but I wonder if their system is that capable.
Obvious questions for you are: what OS are you using? Have you changed ANY comms settings from the original T-Mobile build? Have you tried a hard reset to restore original settings (including the all important T-Mobile extended ROM)?
If you still have the original OS ROM build running then you might try installing the configuration .cab files that are stored on the Extended ROM separately - some apply directly to such device settings. Access to that Extended ROM on the WM5 build is easy and you just need an application such as "HTweakC 2.0" (available here). Of course, and as ever, start with backing-up your device - but you will know that.
I hope this helps.
I have VSWL Rom.
I have setup the internet (GPRS) settins like they are suppose to be.
I believe that it is a fact that T-Mo has blocked ports, and has only left http smtp and pop3 open. So my dilema is why did verichat connect on my Treo 650 and not on my MDA or my 8525.
First we need to know if you are in tmobile usa, uk...????
if you are in tmo usa then you can't
if you have the proxies 216.155.165.50:8080 the most you can use is PIE (pocket internet explorer)
the best thing is to get the blackberry $20 dollar add-on plan and just setup without proxys. wap.voicestream.com and you have full internet access.
I am in the USA, and I have the T-zona 5.99 plan.
I am less than reluctant to close my mind for this not to work, since google maps works. and, as I said, on my Treo 650 using verichat worked perfectly.
I don't know what the difference in the way the Treo 650 connected and the way my 8525 connects.
Perhaps the programs that can connect are ones that ones that connect through port 80 and are proxied to 8080.
I am so lost on this topic though.
too many contractidicting points.
such as streamining works on win but not on palm
IM worked on Palm but on Win.

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