GPRS connections out of control? - JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General

I am using SPB's GPRS traffic counter and have noticed that without my doing anything, my Jam will download around 100k of data every day (around £0.25 on Vodafone). I can just about survive the financial shock ;-) but I am more worried to know how control connections in general.
Does anyone know what programs on the Jam keep a GPRS connection alive? (I am not using MS Messenger, nor do I have either MS Explorer, the e-mail application or Activesync runnig in the background).
cheers.

I see that you have checked the usual suspects how about MMS this uses GPRS as well maybe you received some? The application you mention (SPB GPRS Monitor) does not tell you which application uses GPRS?

unfortunately is not the mms client - I stopped its installation after a hard reset.
I even go as far as killing off the messaging app and internet explorer with the memory control panel to make sure they don't accidentally run in the background.
my guess is a leaky tcp/ip stack, but i'm still looking for ways of controlling outgoing packets...

cseilern said:
unfortunately is not the mms client - I stopped its installation after a hard reset.
I even go as far as killing off the messaging app and internet explorer with the memory control panel to make sure they don't accidentally run in the background.
my guess is a leaky tcp/ip stack, but i'm still looking for ways of controlling outgoing packets...
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I too have the same Issue. Orange billed me for 2.5MB of data. I aint used the darn thing for GPRS.

Alternetives for SPB GPRS Monitor !?
Does anyone have any alternetives for SPB GPRS Monitor. This program makes the OS on my i-mate JAM very unstabele. So I had to remove this program.
I hope someone can help me pointing to a good alternetive app ! I also couldn't find an application like a SMS counter. Any idea's ?
Thanks for your help and kind regards,
R.

I NEVER leave GPRS connected. I always 're-connect and cancel' to drop my connection after getting email headers ....
However....
one day, in one session at 12noon I racked up £17 with 02. They can not explain it and I was sitting at my desk at work with the XDA docked at the time!!! (with internet pass through if needed!)
This is worse than premium rate calls (which are closely monitored) ... all 02 can say is that at 12noon I downloaded over 7mb !! end of story! no more details. I don't know how it is possible unless it connected to their stupid movie portal and downloaded a massive trailer on it's own? - which I would of noticed!
Well I have a complaint in with them. Just think how many people could get stung (and I know what i'm doing!)
I'm now going to try the above mentioned GPRS counter, but has anyone tried this one ? .... http://www.all-locations.com/ GPRS Traffic Counter v3.2
Rich

cseilern
Do you have a programme such as SPB Pocket Weather.. or any of those 'weather related' today pluggins?... as they connect via GPRS to download latest weather etc..
Hope you find the mischievous programme!
Gero

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GPRS - Agile Messenger / Pocket Msn Question....

I am currently on Vodafone with a Qtek 9100 in UK. I have rang vodafone to try and find out but they dont know so im assuming some clever people on here will know....
If i connect thru GPRS and chat on msn, say for 1 hour...how much data will be downloaded / used?? because Vodafone charge £2.50 per MB..
thanks
depends how much you chat
your best option is to use a GPRS monitor (SPB?) and keep an eye on your useage
You get a GPRS monitor app with the QTEK9100. Just install it and set it up, set a warning alarm when it reaches a particular amount of data (or cost).
also I have found that its better from a cost point of view to ue agile as opposed to msn messenger.
hth
Jim
onmartin said:
You get a GPRS monitor app with the QTEK9100. Just install it and set it up, set a warning alarm when it reaches a particular amount of data (or cost).
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really? what program? comes with the Qtek?
It's on a CD that comes with the handset called GPRS MONITOR. (not the activesync disk)
If you haven't got it PM me your address
onmartin said:
It's on a CD that comes with the handset called GPRS MONITOR. (not the activesync disk)
If you haven't got it PM me your address
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let me check at home
thanks onmartin

Suddenly PIE doesn't browse to websites! Stuck "Locatin

Enough is enough.
I had the same **** with my old PDA2K and now again with the Exec... I've spent 20 hours thus far on that ****. I just hard reset my machine yesterday and now again this **** happens and I cannot fix it.
I am surfing using UMTS/GPRS.. My definitions are FINE. There's only one connection. It was always fine that way on both the pda2k and the new exec.. but it stopped working now... it could be that some program messed up this ****, but i wouldn't know which.
Trying to browse to a site.. I get PIE saying 'Locating..." then after a minute or so saying "The page cannot be displayed or downloaded blah blah blah"... But the 3GUMTS is connected just fine.. Note that MSN Messenger doesn't work as well (I think that's because it's uses the core engine the PIE uses). Strangely, using networking utilities (vx) I can ping with the machine and even get HTML pages using web addresses. So the problem is not DNS and not a connection problem.. Just probably some damn problem with the operating system not recognizing something.. The 3rd party vxutilities for networking are bypassing that **** hence why they can browse the network just fine.
Tried deleting temp internet files and cookies nada... I also tried soft reset (about 20 times).. nada.... tried deleting the connection and recreating... nada... tried searchiong the registry for my connection name after deleted to see if traces exists.. nada...
Getting tired of this ****.. only hardreset solved it last time and i'm getting sick of becoming the machine's slave rather then the machine being my slave.
Help would be grately apprecaited..... I am sure it's ****ed up registry entry or something like that... I don't have many programs isntalled on my machine as I just hard reseted yesterday and my machine is in rather clean condition except for must have apps.
Help...SOS..
Check your proxy server info (in connections).
My XDA exec just loves to grab my work proxy server and try use that for accessing the web when wifi is active.
Check your proxy server info (in connections).
My XDA exec just loves to grab my work proxy server and try use that for accessing the web when wifi is active.
$20 for a solution
dikkyboy said:
Check your proxy server info (in connections).
My XDA exec just loves to grab my work proxy server and try use that for accessing the web when wifi is active.
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Thanks for trying to help...
but that's not the issue.. it's wwaayy deeper than that... ( i would have found it after 20 hours of trying had it been this easy ...
No proxy whatsoever. I never used Wifi. No work setup.. only "My ISP Setup".
anybody else? I'm offering $20 by paypal for the kind soul who can help stop my frustration WITHOUT hardresetting my machine or doing drastic moves. I need a permanent solution. If I solve it before so.. I will post my fix here...
UPDATE:
It's working now, though I don't like the solution, I changed in 'Connections' to connect through 'My Work Network' although I don't actually have any work network and I'm using it the same way I used the "My ISP" connection. It may stop working again though. i'll update.. but I still don't get it why the normal My ISP which always worked stopped working.
Are you, maybe, using the SBSH Weather?Are you, maybe, using the SBSH Pocket Weather?
For me the same thing started after I installed SBSH PW…
zormic said:
Are you, maybe, using the SBSH Weather?Are you, maybe, using the SBSH Pocket Weather?
For me the same thing started after I installed SBSH PW…
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Thanks, but I'm actually using SPB Weather
com'on someone please help me out here. i'll donate another 20 euro to this site if i find a solution... What I did yesterday (changed it so that it will use only the 'My work' profile both both internet and work worked fine.. but only for 24 hours. it now doesn't work again even after multiple softresets as well as deleting and defining the account again.. what a frustartion.
Now only that i cannot use PIE, I cannot use Terminal Server as well.. which is a bummer
Toggle flight mode on and then off.
Have ever try to remove check box of proxy in network tab? With mine it works.
proxy issue
I noticed the same thing on my wizard, I think it may be caused by an internet explorer automatic configuration script. When I manually provide the ip address and port number of the proxy server, the problem does not appear. I changed this in Internet Explorer running on my PC and in the Work connection on my phone. I have also changed the setting in Active Sync to choose the Work Network setting by default instead of automatic.
The only way I got Internet Explorer back to work was after a hard reset.
It did not happen again in the past 1,5 week. I have been restoring the same backup after each of these hardresets so I had an identical install everytime. It seems to be fine now.
I don't know how WM5 handles Active Directory policies (if it handles them at all) that may change your IE settings as well.
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Re: proxy issue
"Check your proxy server info (in connections).
My XDA exec just loves to grab my work proxy server and try use that for accessing the web when wifi is active."
My wizard does the same, it will work for a week or so and try using some random proxy for no reason!
I just uncheck the proxy tick box and the wifi connection works great with internet explorer. (well usually I tear my hear out for 5 mins and then realise its the proxy!)
R
i had same problem! but opera browser would work fine!
i am also using spb weather but i dont think its that
i tried a few things but iv noticed if u keep the ie cach setings and location as default it may be fine, after not changing the ie cache location iv not had this problem, where asbefre i always used my card for ie cache.
all working fine now inc spb weather
PIE stuck at Locating
Hi mobiler,
I hope you have found a more permanent solution to your problem. I own an MDA Pro with TMobile UK and recently bacame plagued with the same symptoms which you reported, i.e., pocket explorer and opera mobile stuck at locating and not able to browse the web. Through some helpful suggestions on this thread I managed to find a solution which you may or may not have already tried. Like most people, I use my MDA pro at home on my home wireless Wifi network, and while away at work I use its GPRS/UMTS capabilities. I had no reason to think that these two features of the MDA Pro had any interactions with each other. In fact, I seem to remember reading somewhere that separate pieces of internal hardware provide these features. However, to my surprise/dismay I discovered that somehow the Wifi and GPRS/UMTS settings on the MDA pro are linked together. For example, if you setup a proxy server in the GPRS modem settings, which I recently did, without notifying you the Wifi connection also tries to use the same proxy setting. Vice versa if you setup a specific IP address and Gateway in your Wifi settings the GPRS modem connection also tries to use those settings and failing. The solution for getting back to normal internet browsing was to remove the proxy in modem connection by using its automatic settings ,and to tick the server assigned IP address for Wifi. This is a less than satisfactory solution, however, at least things are back to where they were before. I remain very puzzled at the interaction between these features and am dismayed and frustrated that there is nothing in the step by step procedures in each setting that warn you about a possible impact on the other.

XDA Atom - My GPRS connection start by itself! How stop it?

Hello.
I need your help since my Atom is lauching the GPRS connection without any instruction to do that.
I closed all the resident memory programs but still go on dialing!
How can I avoid the connection start withouth promptin it or only if I need it?
Thank You
Regards
There must be some program you have installed that's initiating it. I would suggest that you did a hard reset (after backing up your documents and contacts, of course) and then install program after program, testing a while after the installation, to see what the offenting app is.
same problem for me
Moved to proper section
Main reason
EMAIL - once an account is setup it will auto connect to internet for new email, default every 2 hours, but Windows Mobile do not disconnect GPRS after trying to get new mails.
ACTICE SYNC - if you have setup connection to EXCHANGE SERVER eg, google push server.
wil also auto connect all the time
Down side of Microsoft is that they didnt design to disconnect after trying to get email like Symbian(Nokia) do. so other manufacture will offer to design their comm manager to disable data auto connection but O2 & Quanta didnt go to the extend to offer this function back then.
Download NoData from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467813
toggle to DISABLE GPRS
this will stop auto connection to GPRS but it may stop receiving MMS as MMS also require GPRS connection.

Weather report without GPRS

Hi guys!
Already asked in other sub-forum, but no reply there, hopefully more luck here.
Since GPRS and other mobile internet is expense in Belgium, isn't there an application that loads the weather report for the next week, everytime you sync your Touch Dual (or whatever HTC...) to your PC/Laptop. That way, you wouldn't have to use GPRS to get weather reports.
In my case it would drastically lower my gprs cost(since I sync every day!), and still have the eye candy of all those fancy apps you guys made here!
Grtz & thx very much!
in my country gprs is also so expensive..so I need it too..anyone can help us?
try this
1-turn on flight mode
2-sync your phone
3-tap update on weather app you use
Doesn't it work to turn on wifi (if your phone has it) and instead of using GPRS, it loads the data over the wifi? I know I've done this with Google Maps, and many other programs since I don't have a data plan.
Spb Weather does exactly what you want.
In the options you can specify to sync when docked and otherwise to sync only manually.
I'm using it since a while and had no sync through GPRS till now.
Don't know where it is getting it's info from or how, but i have just put Mobile Shell on a Himalaya, XDA II, and put a pay-as-you-go SIM in it with no credit.
Left it for a while after telling the weather bit where i am and lo and behold the weather forecast has updated.

My TD2 is going online (EDGE or HSDPA) by itself!

I have the following problem: my HTC Touch Diamond 2 (from T-Mobile) is going online and stays online for hours until I notice and disconnect.
I can't be sure, but it's possible that Mobile Shell is the reason, because I don't have any other running applications. Is this maybe a built-in feature of TD2?
Is this a known issue? Any hints or tips? (ActiveSync and GMail are set to synchronize manually).
yes look in the Options of mobile shell
its the weather Programm that uses these autoConnects all the time
ive had the same "problem" as well...
if u have SPB Traveler too, then uve to look in every single programm option
SPB Traveler options
SPB MObile Shell options
SPB weather options
take out the automaticly updates...
fixed =D
I've checked Windows Update and Weather Update. Both are off.
I've found that I have a suspicious widgetmanager.exe running on my PDA. Is this coming from Opera? I'll kill it and see if it helps.
Maybe it's the (totally useless) PushInternet service of Opera.
Here's how you can stop it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532948&highlight=stop+pushinternet
But the problem is that sometimes you want to browse some saved pages.
There are some saved pages that still require connection to update something.
And the phone goes on-line automatically WITHOUT asking the user. This annoys me a lot, since I have a fixed traffic amount and I don't want to spend it unawares.
I solved this issue by modifying a letter in my default connection.
This way, when the phone tries to go on-line automatically I get an error message saying it cannot connect. Now, depending on my needs, I either dismiss the message to stay off-line or fix that modified letter to go on-line.
To modify your default connection:
Settings tab, All settings, Connections tab, Connections, Manage existing connections, Click your default connection, Edit, Next, (here change the "Access point name" -- my last letters are .ro and I delete the "o"), Next and then Finish.
Maybe this solution is a bit rough but it works for me and I'm happy .
What's the problem? I have always a data connection open on my phone, 24 hours a day. You only pay for the amount of data, not for staying online.
I was referring to traffic.
The phone transfers data without asking my permission.
> You only pay for the amount of data, not for staying online.
The phone is connecting to the Internet automatically upon necessity. The fact that the connection is open means that some program or service had the necessity and transferred the data (at least one byte, but likely more). So the traffic is not zero in this case.
Another reason is that I pay 7EUR per every day that I connect to the Internet + the traffic price.
And reason #3 is that I want to know and control what my phone is doing and not otherwise.
I'm still observing the situation, this widgetmanager.exe is likely the source of the problem, but can't confirm it 100% yet.
Try SPB Wireless Monitor, then you can see whats connected, amount of traffic etc.
No need of buying, just use the trial for 15 days
Thanks for the tip. I have used it. That's how I know about widgetmanager.exe downloading something. I keep it killed and wait for the problem to reappear. After 24 hours I'll know if it's widgetmanager.exe or not.
I like your solution and I am going to give that a try. Thank you.
widgetmanager.exe was the reason. It comes with T-Online ROM. Thank you everybody for your help. Issue closed.
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