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UK O2 ROM 1.72.187 Hanged and hard reset twice in 2 days

I got a serious problem with this rom.
My xda2 hanged (can't switch on) twice and hard reset when I plugged the power supply.
Anybody had the same terrible experience.....
I suspected it's the bluetooth problem cause I started using my bluetooth headset again last few days....but not sure....anybody got some clue????
Cheers,
Chris

After upgrading to this .187 O2 ROM, My XDA II is really slow all over the place. I deleted the O2 Active User Interface thing and that seemed to stop it from being slow when turning it on and off.

Yeah, happenned to me too... hard reset twice in 2 days!!...just after upgrade to this rom...
My xdaii just didn't react to anything, not even the power button, so i did a soft reset... but it did a hard reset instead :s.
after that i changed to a belgian ROM (1.72 too) BUT kept the radio from the O2... and i wasn't able to send/receive sms after that, so i completeley installed the belgian rom to get rid of the O2 one.
see my post about it here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12656
EDIT : looks like other people have a proble with the ON/OFF button under this rom... http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12690 :| [/url]

The issue of the Xda II not responding to anything but hard reset happened to me two or three times, but I was on 1.60.44WWE.
The first time, I reinstalled almost everything to see if a particular program crashed the unit.
The second time, I narrowed it down to GPRS Tweak ... but still it happened.
The last time, I took out a program called SpaceReclaimer, that clears away cached & temporary files ... and this time, perhaps it was pure luck but the problem hasn't occurred since, it's been more than 6 months now.
I have no solutions, but just to share my experience and compare notes, perhaps the new ROM came with an app which messes with system files in background and causes this to happen. Well, at least that's what I suspected what happened to mine as I remember using SpaceReclaimer quite often before those hard resets.

Hi all,
I was wondering whether you have installed any program after the ROM upgrade or not? Coz I have no problem with my customized .187 ROM at all (what I have removed all UK O2 CABs, put some HK and AUS network settings and edited the config.txt). It works like a charm! The only 2 possible reasons I can think of for your problem would be 1) program(s) installed after ROM upgrade or 2) ROM is not correctly customized/upgraded. If worst comes to worst, phone is still messing up, try to do a SD-card ROM recover and redo the upgrade.
Hope my opinions can give you guys some hints on how to fix the problem.
Cheers!

crashing upon recieving text and overnight

Hi,
i know this has came up alot, i was just wondering if anyone has found a fix for the xda exec crashing when a text is recieved. This does not happen to me often but it does happen and is quite annoying as the text is lost sometimes.
Also i find that sometimes when i leave my phone closed in clam shell mode overnight i wake up and open the phone but it seemed to be crashed. There was one night when my girlfriend sent me 3 txts during that night and she got delivery reports saying they were delivered,once i turnt my phone on in the morning it was frozen and i had to soft reset but didnt get any of her txts. Im now trialling to leave the phone on in standard pda mpde (screen facing out) overnight to see if it happens this way or not.
Michael
p.s: im using the standard rom that came with the phone
rom: 1.13.48
radio: 1.04.02
protocol: 42.37.P8

Yes the problem is very much there still. I have been using the Jasjar for almost 3 months now. During these 3 months this is my 2nd Jasjar and the problem is on both my units.
The chances of SMS freezing the Jasjar is more likely when the available RAM is below 17 MB. So what I am doing to reduces chances of this happening is to soft reset when the available RAM is below 18 MB. However this is still no gaurantee though it does reduce the chances of the Jasjar freezing upon receiving a text message.
This is a very annoying problem as this makes the whole thing so unreliable. You will never know that a text message has come through and caused your Jasjar to freeze till you need to use your phone again, and if during this period someone tries to contact you his call will not get through.
May I also mention that a few days back I also upgraded my Jasjar with the O2 ROM but the problem was still there. Furthermore I am convinced that this problem is not being caused by any 3rd party software. I can say so with confidence because I have hard rest several times and found the problem to be there even when no third party software was installed.
My only hope is now a ROM upgrade which I heard is due in December. I this does not solve the problem at least for me I can say that I am quitting and the Nokia 9500 will be my next phone.
Regards

@mho,
which mode are you using. I had the SMS freezing problem with my JJ but with my Exec in Corporate mode I have not suffered this. However, I have noticed that since I downloaded the latest ROM from the O2 my Exec is less stable then with the original ROM!

i am using the corporate mode, its mroe stable than the basic mode but upon recieving ssm it still crashes.
i think im going to call o2 today and ask them to change my phone. I thinking of samsung sgh-i300 now.
such a shame cos i really like the exec, if i didnt need a reliable txt function so much i wouldnt really care about it.

When I tried the O2 ROM on my i-mate Jasjar I also opted for the corporate mode and this still did not solve the text message freeing problem. I therefore shifted back to the original i-mate Jasjar ROM
Regards

Did you guys have Pocket Informant or TCMP + ffdshow/ac3 codec pack installed by any chance?
My SMS was perfectly fine until yesterday I installed the above, and upon receiving an SMS my exec (corp) hung...
Hard resetting now...

doody said:
Did you guys have Pocket Informant or TCMP + ffdshow/ac3 codec pack installed by any chance?
My SMS was perfectly fine until yesterday I installed the above, and upon receiving an SMS my exec (corp) hung...
Hard resetting now...
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I have TCMP installed and running on the original corporate ROM and NEVER had the crash upon receiving SMS.

When I had my JJ I did get the freezing problem with receipt of a SMS - but I was also using Pocket Informant. On my Exec on Corp mode I don't use Pocket Informant but use Agenda Fusion and have never suffered the SMS issue. Looks like it could be a third-party app (I also may have used a Today screen plug-in on my JJ, which I don't use anymore) causing the SMS problem.

OK this is starting to peeve me..... hard reset, didn't install TCMP, only installed PI trial and SMS hang issue is back...argh!

no, i had no 3rd party apps and it still hung. I think someelse also didnt have any 3rd party apps and had this problem too.

thx mho... I'll test it out for a day or two more and if it still hangs I'm calling O2. I have a suspicion that it's an issue to do with the memory leaks, probably due to filehandles not being closed when accessing an SD card with LOTS of files in it.

Happening again after being ok for 2 days... calling O2 today...

Yes it is true... I am having same prob too... Even after hardreset without any 3rd party applications, after a while after softreset, my phone does freeze... Some time I am not even able to read the message.

Not sure how scientific this is - but I had the 'crash on SMS' quite a bit in the first week or so of using my Exec.
The first time it happened, I thought it might be to do with insufficient resources, so I regularly closed down background tasks and did occasional soft-resets to 'clean it up'. This didn't seem to make much difference.
HOWEVER, this week I've basically just made sure POutlook is actually running at all times, and I've not had a single problem.
When I fancy the old 'close all tasks' if I've got a load of apps running in the background - I just follow it with a swift press of the "envelope" button.
It SEEMS to be working!

FunkyMagic said:
It SEEMS to be working!
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Except I spoke too soon. Graaagh. :evil:
Came back to a flashing orange LED, opened up to see, and the thing had frozen.

doh! :evil:

I had the SMS freeze problem with my JJ now I only have it with email download over GPRS. Unfortunately a lot of Universal fans here don't think there are any problems with the Universal while the rest of us are trying to find workarounds. A bit annoying really.

It must be from the service provider, because someone already tested it after a hard reset with nothing installed and still getting these SMS freezes. It could also be the phone. It is hard to pinpoint because I don't see any Cingular-USA complaining of SMS freezing. As most Universal users are in the UK.

If it's any consolation.....happens to me once in a while too.....don't think it could be the network.....but maybe some O2 files??

no freeze but SMS just not received
see my post - only receiving some SMS - this is related to an XDA 2i
on O2 network
the more I trail this forum for SMS issues the more I am concerned that this is a serious bug with the phone.
I have done extensive troubleshooting on this and can confirm that it is a) not related to any loaded SW or backup, b) happening on nearly all XDA derivates to some extend, C) is mainly related to the unit trying to "wake up" (which is normal for SMS receive). Pattern seems to be that combined with a weak signal the XDA wakes up, looses network, re-aquires but the receive failed. The confirmation that the message was received is however already deliverd as the XDA woke up. I can re-create this behaviour at will now. If you send two messages within a short time frame the Second message only will be received. So it is definitely related to the unit waking up.
My XDA was with O2 for repair twice and no change in behaviour. they have agreed to exchange - but see above - form the posts here I think that it is a general problem with the unit

Random soft reset on Cingular 8125 - runs perfect otherwise

Bizzarre is the only way to describe what's happening - my 8125 is running super, fast, no issues, everything works, wifi, etc. No complaints whatsoever.
But for whatever reason after about 2 - 3 days of being used it will randomly soft reset for no apparent reason. One of these times it was on a table infront of me so I caught it soft-resetting and before that it had just been sitting there in standby.
It never soft-resets when I'm using it but when it's in standby so I can't figure out what is causing it. Could it be email checking?
Only apps I have running at the times of soft-resets are:
Messaging
Contacts
Calendar
Internet Explorer
Verichat
Phone
Resco Today Plugin
PocketWeather Plus
ActiveSync (only to sync to PC - no wireless syncing)
Any ideas?? It's really annoying
:x

Not sure this experience applies but....
I have the Imate K-jam and before Imate issued their new ROM many of us were experiencing same problem -- periodic resets -- among other issues. The new ROM has resolved them. I know Cingular is expecting to come out with a new ROM for the 8125 so they may be "fixing" the same kind of issues.

Phone Off on Power On, outgoing call problems, etc.

I am using the latest HTC ROM in the UK with Radio v. 1.03.03.10. When I restart the unit in the morning after switching the power off overnight the phone is off enough times to be a nuisance if I do not notice it. Occasionally it switches into flight mode when the unit is on as well, but this seems to be happening less frequently. I also sometimes have difficulty making outgoing calls, ie the call ends before even getting connected, and redialling will not work until I switch the phone off and back on again. Is anyone else having these problems? Is this an issue with the radio ROM? I have read about the difficulties with the latest Radio ROM upgrades on the forum, and if a Radio ROM upgrade would solve the problem I would appreciate some advice on the best one to go with for use primarily in Europe, with occasional travel to the US and Japan.

Hi, Sorry to hear about your issues, I and a couple others here have or had the problem with the phone being off/flightmode after turning it off, then back on.
Theres a another post about this somewhere..I was just too lazy to find it before I posted, and last I checked a true fix hadn't been found.
If I am correct it shouldn't occur if you only do a softreset, and if you look at your signal bars when you shut it off, it looks like it turns the phone/radio off during the shutdown process...that is normal I'm pretty sure, cause even when it worked correctly it still shut the phone off before a power off, I think the issue is related to the startup process and it isn't correctly turning it back on.
I have had it work fine for the longest, and then when I installed some software it quit, after the fresh installation of software it has worked again, also I notice if I power off the phone while its charging and then power it back on, it always works correctly.
I haven't had any actual incall/call issues myself I can't say if a Radio upgrade would help with that, but I don't suspect a radio only upgrade would help with the flight mode being on after a power down, but I am far from being positive, I think its installed software/ROM related, sorry I can't be of some real help, I'm dealing with it myself..its aggrivating to me, I have forgotten to turn flightmode off and missed calls for half a day untill I looked and noticed.

Start the improvement way by upgrading the Radio ROM
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
Here you can find the 1.20 ROM, extracted from JASJAM ROM. Try to install it on your device.
Tell me about this.

Thanks for the feedback and the suggestions. Most helpful.

yes - i get that too - constantly (on a t-mob vario) - i get bumped off the network at least 5-10 times a day and it takes me anywhere between and 10 minutes to get back on. i also get bumped off systematically every night (i am always off when i get up).
calls too are a disaster - an average, it takes me 3 or 4 tries to complete a call when i have full network. (sometimes as much as 10-15 tries)
took my sim and put it into a magician and all went away, so *suppose* it could be a 3g thing, but i am really not convinced because the hermes does have a 2g radio as well (so it should fall back onto 2g whenever 3g fails...)

Not a Fix but a Working Solution
I started having the issue of the radio being off on startup a few weeks ago.
So I invested($10) in a copy of SK Softwares Scheduling Manager SKScheMa.
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?skschema/m_skschema.html
This has a powerful scripting language and one of the script commands is "GPRS on"
I created a shortcut in the startup folder to a GPRS On script. and since then I have had no more problems.

i´ve the some problem, what do you do for no more problems ?¿?¿
thanks

Thanks for this. I will give it a try. Do you know by any chance if this also provides a way to have the phone ring through the speaker when it is connected to a Bluetooth headset?

>Thanks for this. I will give it a try. Do you know by any chance if this also provides a way to have the phone ring through the speaker when it is connected to a Bluetooth headset?<
If you are refering to SKSchema, then this should be possible. You can create a script that runs when a call is received.
The script can then instruct the phone to play a sound file.

We turned off the UMTS service and reverted back to GSM and that seems to have solved the issue.
Hope that helps.
Cheers,
J.

Just a slight update to maybe help find the cause, I had created a backup with spb before the problem occurred (minus pim data and emails not sure if it mattered) and after having the problem arise again and a few other issues, I decided to hard reset and try out the backup I made.
After installing my backup the problem was gone, and then I got bored the other day and installed some software, and I think removed some, and I had it happen once again after I had ran memmaid 1.72 and rebooted.
I don't know if it the software installaions that are causing it..but one thing that has been a constant is the memmaid, and it could even be my fault.
Is anyone having this happen to a basically oem device?

ChaoticDruid said:
Just a slight update to maybe help find the cause, I had created a backup with spb before the problem occurred (minus pim data and emails not sure if it mattered) and after having the problem arise again and a few other issues, I decided to hard reset and try out the backup I made.
After installing my backup the problem was gone, and then I got bored the other day and installed some software, and I think removed some, and I had it happen once again after I had ran memmaid 1.72 and rebooted.
I don't know if it the software installaions that are causing it..but one thing that has been a constant is the memmaid, and it could even be my fault.
Is anyone having this happen to a basically oem device?
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Well, I can't exacly tell why but I get the same feeling about extra software.
After a hardreset or ROM upgrate (now Cing 1.34/radio 1.16) everything's fine. I deactivate ActiveSync and install some extra software (PocketZenPhone, Total Commander, Regedit, TomTom). After a few days still everything's fine. So I install some other software (SPB PocketPlus, Jetware, a today- and phoneskin) and still everything's fine for a few days. But then on a (not so) fine day: it hangs! The phone doesn't react or TomTom is hanging on the startup screen or the whole device is freezing. Why? I don't know, softreset and everythings fine for a few days.
I notices a few situations while it happened: first when I connected the carpower adapter and second a few times while receiving a phonecall (in my carkit and on poweroff).
Uninstalling everything doesn't seem to do the trick: it still hangs now and then. Also I dont have the patience to hardreset and use my device clean, without extra programs for a few weeks. But I guess in that case everything would be ok (?). But a device without the extra's has no use to me...
My feeling is that the installing the extra's causes a instability in the registry or elsewhere. I also have the feeling that the hardware causes certain instability: the gliding keyboard, the screen (alignmentproblems), the buttons, the SD-card, the network cards, bluetooth... (I had my device in repair with HCT because of the too easy gliding keyboard, the stylus, and the instability with TomTom, but those problems are solverd for now, exept for TomTom). So much hardware, so much software, all in one small device...

A small addition to my previous post: I think another possible cause for instability are the famous memoryleaks. Starting and stopping programs in my opinion never clears the whole memory, in spite of "real" programstoppers like SPB PocketPlus. After working a few days this could cause a freeze (?)

Can't make calls & won't hang up (HD2/leo)

Can anyone help??
I've had my leo for a while now and I love the phone with one major exception.....
Sometimes when I call a contact nothing happens then after an eternity, 2minutes, the call is placed. I have good network connection and have tried it with and without 3G.
When this error is present I also get a problem whereby I can't hang up.
This seems to be a software problem. I'm on the T-mobile network in the UK. Does anyone else have the same problem?
I couldn't find anything on the forums. I've tried stripping programs/software off and have tried both hard and soft resets. The problem appeared to go away after a hard reset but then appear again weeks later for no apparent reason.
I have the original ROM version (1.43.110.2) and no significant mod's apart from Cookie home screen tabs and a few simple registry tweaks.
Any help guys, I'm contemplating taking the phone back but will I just end up with a reconditioned model? Mine's in mint condition and I don't want to end up with some banged up phone.

Hi, Did the phone work before the reg tweaks and software installation? A new T-Mobile UK ROM was published on the 15th, it might be an idea for you to flash your phone, test it then tweak, if it doesn't work after you flash it then speak to T-Mobile. If it workls after you flash it but not after you tweak then there's your problem Here is the link to HTC's UK web site with the download. I'd guess that T-Mobile will have a link on their support site for it too, somewhere: http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownloadList.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=2.
Hope this helps.

Mine does the same thing. Also mine also freezes when I get incoming calls. After I talk to the other person, I can't hang up. It's frozen. I have to hit the reset button on the back or take out the batter. I have two HD2's T-Mobile US Versions on release day.
I did do some HD2 tweaks to turn on the LED when I get messages though.
I'm going to reset both devices and see what happens. Maybe the old softwares don't work on the HD2 even though it's for WinMo 6.5.
I really hope it work, because I hate to return the unit. It's a beautiful hardware.

Thanks CMMY, I'll try installing the new ROM as soon as I get a chance.
I didn't have the problem before installing software/tweaks; but then again it was only probably a couple of days before I played around with it. After I did a hard reset and reinstalled some software it was working fine for at least a week before the problem re-occured, which seemed quite strange. Today the phone is working fine but will undoubtedly return, the fault seems entirely intermittent.
Daily driver: I also have the same problem when recieving calls. I'll let you know how I get on.

Same problem here, my phone is 3 days old and I have to remove the battery to end most calls, did a master reset and thought that fixed it. Couple hours later it was back at it. I'm using a tmobile hd2. This seems to be a very common problem, hope they come out with a patch soon..

Same problem here, hope it gets fixed someday

same problem
all the same..
t mobile croatia..
cant make phone call
cant hang up
...
all other provider sim works fine
help..

Do any of you use BSB tweeks?

steveianson said:
Do any of you use BSB tweeks?
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I am using it and i also have the same problem with the calls. This issue manifested before and also after BSB instalation.
I am using an orange branded rom 1.48

hionuth said:
I am using it and i also have the same problem with the calls. This issue manifested before and also after BSB instalation.
I am using an orange branded rom 1.48
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Try un-ticking "Tap Time"

it seems its a network related problem...
sim related...
got to ask for super sim..
like the data connection stops calls..
with a super sim the problem is much smoller.. :?

steveianson said:
Try un-ticking "Tap Time"
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This worked for me, thanks

I have this issue across diffrent roms, soft reboot does not fix it. just fixes itself after a while

Hi
Did you find a solution to this problem?
I'm using GSM HD2 Europe.
This problem start occurring after a while when I was using 29 Aug Energy rom.
After a reset the phone work ok for few hours.
When to problem start, the send physical button does not work.
if I want to make a call I must use the "phone" from the start menu.
When I try to end the call, the phone software stop responding, but the operation system keeps working.
In order to end the call I must remove the battery.
I when back to the original rom 1.66 from HTC site.
the problem still exist but less frequently.
(by the way the original rom work much slower then the energy custom rom.)
I’m wasting so much time on this phone, and I’m on the verge of giving up .
I will be happy to get some help.
Thanks
Ran S

If you do not have BsB tweaks, but used tweak #44 in "Leo's tips and tweaks", this can cause problems for some.

can't hangup
I found the reason for this problem. (at least for the specific problem I had)
I'm using resco keyboard.
if I leave the Caps lock on after using the keyboard, then the "Send" HW button does not work, and you can't hangup calls.
by opening the keyboard again and releasing the caps lock the all work fine again.

I've also had this problem... Made me consider selling this otherwise great HD2, sometimes even running it over with a car
When I want to make a call, phone just won't dial - it freezes, but everything else works fine (only "phone app" freezes). So, I give up the call. Few minutes later, it unfreezes, and phone starts calling. Usually, from my pocket. Also, after a call, I can't hang up. I often ended up with removing the battery.
I tried everything...
Restarting the phone makes everything ok, but only for a few minutes.
Installing different app, tweaks, etc - nothing.
Removing everything and returning the phone to factory settings - nothing.
Then, I remembered to disable Sense. That was it. I have used the phone without Sense for months, and it didn't happen. Not even ONCE!
Can anybody here do anything with this?
I still want to use Sense because it looks awsome, way better than Windows interface...

You could try a custom rom. I have been using Dutty's latest and greatest without any of the problems you're describing.