Phone Off on Power On, outgoing call problems, etc. - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I am using the latest HTC ROM in the UK with Radio v. 1.03.03.10. When I restart the unit in the morning after switching the power off overnight the phone is off enough times to be a nuisance if I do not notice it. Occasionally it switches into flight mode when the unit is on as well, but this seems to be happening less frequently. I also sometimes have difficulty making outgoing calls, ie the call ends before even getting connected, and redialling will not work until I switch the phone off and back on again. Is anyone else having these problems? Is this an issue with the radio ROM? I have read about the difficulties with the latest Radio ROM upgrades on the forum, and if a Radio ROM upgrade would solve the problem I would appreciate some advice on the best one to go with for use primarily in Europe, with occasional travel to the US and Japan.

Hi, Sorry to hear about your issues, I and a couple others here have or had the problem with the phone being off/flightmode after turning it off, then back on.
Theres a another post about this somewhere..I was just too lazy to find it before I posted, and last I checked a true fix hadn't been found.
If I am correct it shouldn't occur if you only do a softreset, and if you look at your signal bars when you shut it off, it looks like it turns the phone/radio off during the shutdown process...that is normal I'm pretty sure, cause even when it worked correctly it still shut the phone off before a power off, I think the issue is related to the startup process and it isn't correctly turning it back on.
I have had it work fine for the longest, and then when I installed some software it quit, after the fresh installation of software it has worked again, also I notice if I power off the phone while its charging and then power it back on, it always works correctly.
I haven't had any actual incall/call issues myself I can't say if a Radio upgrade would help with that, but I don't suspect a radio only upgrade would help with the flight mode being on after a power down, but I am far from being positive, I think its installed software/ROM related, sorry I can't be of some real help, I'm dealing with it myself..its aggrivating to me, I have forgotten to turn flightmode off and missed calls for half a day untill I looked and noticed.

Start the improvement way by upgrading the Radio ROM
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
Here you can find the 1.20 ROM, extracted from JASJAM ROM. Try to install it on your device.
Tell me about this.

Thanks for the feedback and the suggestions. Most helpful.

yes - i get that too - constantly (on a t-mob vario) - i get bumped off the network at least 5-10 times a day and it takes me anywhere between and 10 minutes to get back on. i also get bumped off systematically every night (i am always off when i get up).
calls too are a disaster - an average, it takes me 3 or 4 tries to complete a call when i have full network. (sometimes as much as 10-15 tries)
took my sim and put it into a magician and all went away, so *suppose* it could be a 3g thing, but i am really not convinced because the hermes does have a 2g radio as well (so it should fall back onto 2g whenever 3g fails...)

Not a Fix but a Working Solution
I started having the issue of the radio being off on startup a few weeks ago.
So I invested($10) in a copy of SK Softwares Scheduling Manager SKScheMa.
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?skschema/m_skschema.html
This has a powerful scripting language and one of the script commands is "GPRS on"
I created a shortcut in the startup folder to a GPRS On script. and since then I have had no more problems.

i´ve the some problem, what do you do for no more problems ?¿?¿
thanks

Thanks for this. I will give it a try. Do you know by any chance if this also provides a way to have the phone ring through the speaker when it is connected to a Bluetooth headset?

>Thanks for this. I will give it a try. Do you know by any chance if this also provides a way to have the phone ring through the speaker when it is connected to a Bluetooth headset?<
If you are refering to SKSchema, then this should be possible. You can create a script that runs when a call is received.
The script can then instruct the phone to play a sound file.

We turned off the UMTS service and reverted back to GSM and that seems to have solved the issue.
Hope that helps.
Cheers,
J.

Just a slight update to maybe help find the cause, I had created a backup with spb before the problem occurred (minus pim data and emails not sure if it mattered) and after having the problem arise again and a few other issues, I decided to hard reset and try out the backup I made.
After installing my backup the problem was gone, and then I got bored the other day and installed some software, and I think removed some, and I had it happen once again after I had ran memmaid 1.72 and rebooted.
I don't know if it the software installaions that are causing it..but one thing that has been a constant is the memmaid, and it could even be my fault.
Is anyone having this happen to a basically oem device?

ChaoticDruid said:
Just a slight update to maybe help find the cause, I had created a backup with spb before the problem occurred (minus pim data and emails not sure if it mattered) and after having the problem arise again and a few other issues, I decided to hard reset and try out the backup I made.
After installing my backup the problem was gone, and then I got bored the other day and installed some software, and I think removed some, and I had it happen once again after I had ran memmaid 1.72 and rebooted.
I don't know if it the software installaions that are causing it..but one thing that has been a constant is the memmaid, and it could even be my fault.
Is anyone having this happen to a basically oem device?
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Well, I can't exacly tell why but I get the same feeling about extra software.
After a hardreset or ROM upgrate (now Cing 1.34/radio 1.16) everything's fine. I deactivate ActiveSync and install some extra software (PocketZenPhone, Total Commander, Regedit, TomTom). After a few days still everything's fine. So I install some other software (SPB PocketPlus, Jetware, a today- and phoneskin) and still everything's fine for a few days. But then on a (not so) fine day: it hangs! The phone doesn't react or TomTom is hanging on the startup screen or the whole device is freezing. Why? I don't know, softreset and everythings fine for a few days.
I notices a few situations while it happened: first when I connected the carpower adapter and second a few times while receiving a phonecall (in my carkit and on poweroff).
Uninstalling everything doesn't seem to do the trick: it still hangs now and then. Also I dont have the patience to hardreset and use my device clean, without extra programs for a few weeks. But I guess in that case everything would be ok (?). But a device without the extra's has no use to me...
My feeling is that the installing the extra's causes a instability in the registry or elsewhere. I also have the feeling that the hardware causes certain instability: the gliding keyboard, the screen (alignmentproblems), the buttons, the SD-card, the network cards, bluetooth... (I had my device in repair with HCT because of the too easy gliding keyboard, the stylus, and the instability with TomTom, but those problems are solverd for now, exept for TomTom). So much hardware, so much software, all in one small device...

A small addition to my previous post: I think another possible cause for instability are the famous memoryleaks. Starting and stopping programs in my opinion never clears the whole memory, in spite of "real" programstoppers like SPB PocketPlus. After working a few days this could cause a freeze (?)

Related

JJ Freezes on Arrival of a new SMS

Now that the honeymoon period is over I have started noticing a few problems with the JJ. The most serious I noted is that when the JJ has gone through some use after its last soft reset it tends to freeze when a new text message arrives in the in-box. This does not happen when the JJ has been freshly soft reset and only when some time has passed since it was last soft reset. Since I have set the unit to vibrating alert on receipt of a new message the vibrator continuously starts operating and the phone freezes. To stop the vibrator you need to do a soft reset again.
Anybody had this problem??? I am planning to do a hard reset and see what happens.
Regards
Definitely related to some software that you have installed. I use sms everyday and havent faced any such problem.
Yes it does freezes your device when you receive new SMS, some time even I lost the SMS which was coming tru,..
Once I lost the MMS Account itself, then had to go for softreset and got it back again...
I've had the same thing happening. Very annoying. That's just Microsoft as we know it. We can't get out of the habbit of frequent softresets.
I did a complete ROM upgrade today and I replaced the Arabic ROM which came preinstalled on my JJ with the english version as available at the clubimate site. Without installing any 3rd party software I tested the SMS freezing problem and unfortunately it is very much there. This at least proves that no 3rd party software is to blame for this.
Now I am thinking that maybe I will have to dispose of the JJ as I so much depend on text messaging. The worst part is that as the JJ freezes on arrival of a new SMS the message itself is also lost and after doing the soft reset you can never tell from whom the message was.
I will really appreciate if anyone can help
Kind Regards
Inherent
If you have an SD card inserted try removing it and see if the problem persist.
What i dont get is why this problem is unique to a very small percentage of devices. Many of use the device for SMS quite frequently and dont face this problem. I wonder what the triggering factor is.
universaldoc said:
What i dont get is why this problem is unique to a very small percentage of devices. Many of use the device for SMS quite frequently and dont face this problem. I wonder what the triggering factor is.
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I have this problem since I updated my ROM.
I posted this a few days back that the Jasjar tends to hang not all the time but most of the time when a new SMS arrives and in fact the SMS is also lost when you recover after a soft reset.
I thought that I will re-post this question because now more users would have had more experience with their Jasjars. For me this problem does not seem to go. I have tried even a hard reset and the problem keeps coming back even with no third party software installed.
I shall be obliged if anyone else who has had this problem may kindly post his views because this may put some pressure on the people at i-mate to come up with a fix. I fear that since this problem is being faced by a very small minority of JJ users a fix may never see the light of the day.
Kind Regards
I have a himalaya device with WM5 and have the exact same 'sms-lockup' problem.
Also, somethimes all the incoming calls are forwarded to my voicemail, even when my phone ison and the signal is strong and im not using my device. This can only be solved by a reset or after i made a call myself. Till that time no-one could call me!
The problems started when i installed another WM5-rom and a new radio-rom( 1.18 ). This was the first time a upgraded the radio-rom, so i think this could be the problem.
Im going to install the older radio-rom ver1.08 (recommanded in combi with WM5 by buzzdef.net). I hope this solves it!
I to have the same problem... Every time you open a new text message or even after sending message and when you get delivery report it freezes and you will have to reset.. but if you are in the middle of a call the phone still works fine but not able to use the PDA part because its freeze...
Have installed another, older, radio-rom( 1.08 ) and used it for almost a week... no freezes sofar!! I dont know if this rom can be used for a Universal device...
Just uncheck the "turn off device after..." option in battery settings and this problem will go away.
This was pointed out by user Khaled in another thread.
im also experiencing this after i upgraded to Second Edition. my Himalaya tends to freeze when receiving SMS. applications starts to slow down but will eventually recover after the SMS receipt notification, no need for softresets. i also noticed that currently, it would take about 10 seconds before SMS notification appears in the screen. im sure about this because i would know that an SMS is coming because my computer monitor, adjacent to my XDA, would flicker. so the turn-around time from the flickering of the monitor to the SMS notification would last around 10-12 seconds. is this normal?
I was so fed up with the SMS freezing problem that I sold my Jasjar, albeit at a much loss and exchanged it for a new one.
Just my bad luck the problem is also there on my 2nd Jasjar. It is exactly the same as the one I have sold. When I get a new SMS the unit freezes and has to be soft reset. Please note that this does not happen every time but say 1 in 10 times. Anyways this makes the whole system very unreliable. When your phone is in your pocket and an SMS causes it to freeze you will never know if now somebody tries to make an urgent call because your unit is not responding.
I have also tried the remedy / fix mentioned in this fourm to to Uncheck Turn Off Device but does not work.
My only hope is that this problem is fixed in the next ROM upgrade.
In the meantime I am evaluating prospects of leaving the WM platform altogether and going for a Nokia 9500
a friend just adviced me that it was my Radio version that is causing the problem. 1.18 has a lot of bugs including this freezing issue. so he suggested that i reflash my ROM and go back to Radio version 1.17. could somebody point me where the bug issues of 1.18 are listed here in the forum? thanks

Tmobile USA MDA Hanging/GPRS Problem

Hi All, new wizard/MDA owner here. I have been a Jam owner for quite some time and just got the wizard. Everything has been great except one problem.
Sometimes when I turn the wizard on after it has been asleep for a little bit (10min +) the buttons or touch screen do not respond for 30sec to 1min. Also, during this time GPRS disconnects, the icon still shows connected, but agile messenger will disconnect. Afterwards everything is fine, buttons respond and GPRS is connected.
Needless to say this is annoying. This was never a problem with the Jam so I'm pretty sure its a problem with the wizard.
Some background, this is a Tmobile USA MDA.
OS ROM 1.8.10.2 WWE
Radio ROM upgraded to 1.13.10 (thought maybe the radio ROM was the prob)
Installed Apps:
MS Voice Command 1.5
Agile Messenger
Total Commander
Plus all of the standard TMO apps (I did not prevent the extended rom from executing)
I've tried a lot like hard resetting, not letting the extended rom install, etc. Anyway, I'm a pretty advanced user and have searched all over for a possible answer. Any help is much appreciated.
Ok, here's an update.
I've narrowed the problem down to a suspend/resume issue.
The problem goes away if I use pTravelAlarm Wakeup Tweak and check the option "Always wakeup PPC to full power mode". The problem with this fix is when I have email running in the background, the device turns on every time it syncs messages.
Another solution is to use mortsaver to turn off the screen only, but this reduces the battery life.
Any ideas? is there a way to tweak the suspend/resume options?
well it seems like nobody else is experiencing this problem or has any solutions.
Perhaps a new ROM will help. Can anyone suggest a good stable ROM to use on a US MDA? Has anyone tried the AKU2 ROM on a US MDA? Suggestions please.
you should see if you have the same issues without those 3 apps you listed.
MS Voice Command 1.5
Agile Messenger
Total Commander
I have no problems and leave GPRS/Edge on all time. I get 100+ emails everyday and everything is fine.
I had this same problem on a TMobile MDA. No idea what caused it (hadn't installed any new apps in the 48 hours prior to the device beginning to freeze), but a hard reset fixed it.
I had this same problem on a TMobile MDA. No idea what caused it (hadn't installed any new apps in the 48 hours prior to the device beginning to freeze), but a hard reset fixed it.
OK, this problem was still plaguing me. I tried everything, hard reset, various combinations of the software listed above (including no software). But I still had the problem. That is until I upgraded to the Qtek AKU2 rom (modified for tmobile, http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44631).
Everything seems great so far with this rom. More stable, none of the annoying bugs mentioned before. Anyway, from my experience, upgrading to this rom is a big improvement!
Hope this helps some people out there.

feedback problem, Herm200

So I posted a while back about a problem that I was having, which has yet to be resolved, but I figured it would be best to narrow down the problem until working towards a solution.
I'm sure you've all experienced chirping feedback when you put your cellphone too close to a speaker or other audio device (not consistent, happens for a few seconds every now and then). Well, whenever this happens, or whenever it WOULD happen if my phone was close to a speaker, my TyTN decides to cycle through the SMS/Text/Outlook a million times over. The only way this stops is when the "chirping" ends.
This happens when browsing the internet.
This happens when making a phone call.
This happens when receiving a phone call.
Here is the info of what I am currently running.
Hermes 200 (TyTN) HT636
ROM 1.18.255.3
I also do NOT have a 3G sim yet (I need to get one)
applications:
opera
pocketsnes
im+
So now I have 4 questions on how to resolve this.
1. Would upgrading to a 3g sim reduce the chirping feedback/resolve the problem?
2. Would getting better shielding (maybe battery?) stop it?
3. Would a ROM upgrade fix the problem?
4. Would a Hard reset fix the problem?
Any help would be awesome.
just a small update for anyone who might have the same problem.
I tried upgrading to the most recent HTC ROM, and it did not solve the problem. I then upgraded to the most recent Cingular ROM, which has so far (knock on wood) fixed the problem.
On the downside, moving to the cingular rom somehow blew up all my contact backups on my computer. But then again, I just cut 200 numbers out of my phone that i rarely/never use anymore.

HTC TyTN (Hermes) Radio ROM problem.

Hi everyone,
I'm sure this question has been asked before but I searched Google as well as here, but couldn't find any trace.
My problem is that, from time to time, GSM functionality on my Windows Mobile 6 HTC Hermes stops to respond even if I press the 'Call' button or launch the 'Phone' application. If I try to call my no. from different line, it rings, but no activity on the HTC. A soft reset usually fixes this, but this means I'm missing alot of calls. The same goes for WiFi (Although I know the Radio ROM has nothing to do WiFi) from time to time, it will just keep on searching although I'm within the same distance it usually connects and if I open 'WiFi' option under 'Connections' I can see the network being available.
I've read somewhere that, both these problems are caused by applications on the SD Card, and it advised to 'Defrag' the card from time to time. I'm not sure if there any other fixes for this.
Many thanks for reading.
Regards.
well I have pretty same problem in my new (Kaiser HTC TYTN II) I can't stablish a phone call, because it is cancelled in 10 seconds max.
I really don't know what more to do (desperated). This happened in the opriginal wm6(with radio 1.27.x), then I tested with a cooked rom from dutty(radio 1.65.x), same problem in both.
I really don't know what more to do, it is unusable.
htctytnowner said:
Hi everyone,
I'm sure this question has been asked before but I searched Google as well as here, but couldn't find any trace.
My problem is that, from time to time, GSM functionality on my Windows Mobile 6 HTC Hermes stops to respond even if I press the 'Call' button or launch the 'Phone' application. If I try to call my no. from different line, it rings, but no activity on the HTC. A soft reset usually fixes this, but this means I'm missing alot of calls. The same goes for WiFi (Although I know the Radio ROM has nothing to do WiFi) from time to time, it will just keep on searching although I'm within the same distance it usually connects and if I open 'WiFi' option under 'Connections' I can see the network being available.
I've read somewhere that, both these problems are caused by applications on the SD Card, and it advised to 'Defrag' the card from time to time. I'm not sure if there any other fixes for this.
Many thanks for reading.
Regards.
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I experienced the same thing with my Vario II WM5. HardReset the phone, do not install any applications for a few days. If the problem subsides it was due to some applications that you might have installed on the Storage Card. Install applications on the Device once you are ok with the device.
Had a similar problem on my tytn, I described it in another post.Couplu months ago my phone started to loose signal from time to time, especially during phone calls...and these losses continued till it lost the signal for good. When booting in the first days of the issue it show me the 'NO GSM' line, and after another few days the red lines that indicate the radio version and protocol (G and R) show the line "NONE" . So , a working pda but no phone...tried hard spls, flashed duzins of radios and roms, nothing solved it...till yesterday,after two months of an almost dead and forgoten device. I made a SuperCID +Sim unlock with the common tool for hermes, and it came back to life!! not to forgot that the device was cid-unlocked already (a year ago I think).
So the signal came back as it was new....I then made hard spl and flashed the latest radio (1.54.30.10) because the radio installed by the Cid unlock tool didn't let the device to start data connections. And everything's fine now...hope to be useful with this. Just try Cid/Sim Unlock if you have bad radio issues.

Can't make calls & won't hang up (HD2/leo)

Can anyone help??
I've had my leo for a while now and I love the phone with one major exception.....
Sometimes when I call a contact nothing happens then after an eternity, 2minutes, the call is placed. I have good network connection and have tried it with and without 3G.
When this error is present I also get a problem whereby I can't hang up.
This seems to be a software problem. I'm on the T-mobile network in the UK. Does anyone else have the same problem?
I couldn't find anything on the forums. I've tried stripping programs/software off and have tried both hard and soft resets. The problem appeared to go away after a hard reset but then appear again weeks later for no apparent reason.
I have the original ROM version (1.43.110.2) and no significant mod's apart from Cookie home screen tabs and a few simple registry tweaks.
Any help guys, I'm contemplating taking the phone back but will I just end up with a reconditioned model? Mine's in mint condition and I don't want to end up with some banged up phone.
Hi, Did the phone work before the reg tweaks and software installation? A new T-Mobile UK ROM was published on the 15th, it might be an idea for you to flash your phone, test it then tweak, if it doesn't work after you flash it then speak to T-Mobile. If it workls after you flash it but not after you tweak then there's your problem Here is the link to HTC's UK web site with the download. I'd guess that T-Mobile will have a link on their support site for it too, somewhere: http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownloadList.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=2.
Hope this helps.
Mine does the same thing. Also mine also freezes when I get incoming calls. After I talk to the other person, I can't hang up. It's frozen. I have to hit the reset button on the back or take out the batter. I have two HD2's T-Mobile US Versions on release day.
I did do some HD2 tweaks to turn on the LED when I get messages though.
I'm going to reset both devices and see what happens. Maybe the old softwares don't work on the HD2 even though it's for WinMo 6.5.
I really hope it work, because I hate to return the unit. It's a beautiful hardware.
Thanks CMMY, I'll try installing the new ROM as soon as I get a chance.
I didn't have the problem before installing software/tweaks; but then again it was only probably a couple of days before I played around with it. After I did a hard reset and reinstalled some software it was working fine for at least a week before the problem re-occured, which seemed quite strange. Today the phone is working fine but will undoubtedly return, the fault seems entirely intermittent.
Daily driver: I also have the same problem when recieving calls. I'll let you know how I get on.
Same problem here, my phone is 3 days old and I have to remove the battery to end most calls, did a master reset and thought that fixed it. Couple hours later it was back at it. I'm using a tmobile hd2. This seems to be a very common problem, hope they come out with a patch soon..
Same problem here, hope it gets fixed someday
same problem
all the same..
t mobile croatia..
cant make phone call
cant hang up
...
all other provider sim works fine
help..
Do any of you use BSB tweeks?
steveianson said:
Do any of you use BSB tweeks?
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I am using it and i also have the same problem with the calls. This issue manifested before and also after BSB instalation.
I am using an orange branded rom 1.48
hionuth said:
I am using it and i also have the same problem with the calls. This issue manifested before and also after BSB instalation.
I am using an orange branded rom 1.48
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Try un-ticking "Tap Time"
it seems its a network related problem...
sim related...
got to ask for super sim..
like the data connection stops calls..
with a super sim the problem is much smoller.. :?
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This worked for me, thanks
I have this issue across diffrent roms, soft reboot does not fix it. just fixes itself after a while
Hi
Did you find a solution to this problem?
I'm using GSM HD2 Europe.
This problem start occurring after a while when I was using 29 Aug Energy rom.
After a reset the phone work ok for few hours.
When to problem start, the send physical button does not work.
if I want to make a call I must use the "phone" from the start menu.
When I try to end the call, the phone software stop responding, but the operation system keeps working.
In order to end the call I must remove the battery.
I when back to the original rom 1.66 from HTC site.
the problem still exist but less frequently.
(by the way the original rom work much slower then the energy custom rom.)
I’m wasting so much time on this phone, and I’m on the verge of giving up .
I will be happy to get some help.
Thanks
Ran S
If you do not have BsB tweaks, but used tweak #44 in "Leo's tips and tweaks", this can cause problems for some.
can't hangup
I found the reason for this problem. (at least for the specific problem I had)
I'm using resco keyboard.
if I leave the Caps lock on after using the keyboard, then the "Send" HW button does not work, and you can't hangup calls.
by opening the keyboard again and releasing the caps lock the all work fine again.
I've also had this problem... Made me consider selling this otherwise great HD2, sometimes even running it over with a car
When I want to make a call, phone just won't dial - it freezes, but everything else works fine (only "phone app" freezes). So, I give up the call. Few minutes later, it unfreezes, and phone starts calling. Usually, from my pocket. Also, after a call, I can't hang up. I often ended up with removing the battery.
I tried everything...
Restarting the phone makes everything ok, but only for a few minutes.
Installing different app, tweaks, etc - nothing.
Removing everything and returning the phone to factory settings - nothing.
Then, I remembered to disable Sense. That was it. I have used the phone without Sense for months, and it didn't happen. Not even ONCE!
Can anybody here do anything with this?
I still want to use Sense because it looks awsome, way better than Windows interface...
You could try a custom rom. I have been using Dutty's latest and greatest without any of the problems you're describing.

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