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JAM extended rom apps / patches

I have the following in the extended rom on my JAM and am trying to save space so which out of the following need to be installed thanks :
Default_Backkeysound_RC10
Default_Caller_ID_WWE_RC10
Default_Delete_vdisk
Default_imateV1.00.10
Default_JMM101257_wwe_1004
Default_KSE_Fax_v2.09_unremovable
Default_MMS_V2.0.0.16_WWE_1115
Default_Patch_103_3
Default_Phonepad_WWE_RC10
Default_Smartdialing_WWE_RC11
Default_Version_WWE_103143.sa
Also what is each 1 for,Thanks

I'm trying to find out the same thing. Hope someone can help.

Default_Backkeysound_RC10
Installs a MIDI file for Back Key
Default_Caller_ID_WWE_RC10
This is the Caller ID application (consumes memory, but necessary if you want pictures pop up when ppl call you)
Default_Delete_vdisk
Not sure about this one!
Default_imateV1.00.10
Installs the imate splash screen, plus some other imate visual customisations.
Default_JMM101257_wwe_1004
JAVA patch - Recomended to install
Default_KSE_Fax_v2.09_unremovable
TrueFax software, allowing you to send/recieve faxes - Consumes lots of memory.
Default_MMS_V2.0.0.16_WWE_1115
MMS patch. Without it MMS will not work properly!
Default_Patch_103_3
Not sure about this one. Name suggests it includes patches for the 1.03 ROM version. I would install it.
Default_Phonepad_WWE_RC10
IntelliPad software that allows you to search for names in the Phone app. I like this one.
Default_Smartdialing_WWE_RC11
Not sure about this one!
Default_Version_WWE_103143.sa
Not sure about this one either.

Help please!
How can I make visible the Extended ROM?
THX

Simple run \windows\loadvdisk.exe
Darek

Thanks

kta said:
Default_Backkeysound_RC10
Installs a MIDI file for Back Key
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What exactly is "back key"?

Just to complete:
Default_Delete_vdisk
Just makes the extended_rom invisible again.
Default_Patch_103_3
I've heard it updates the battery, radio and some other internals. Unless you have a problem I don't see the need - you can't shift this stuff from \windows so it will eat memory. Personally I'm just going to wait for the latest ROM update, then the above wll be out of date.
Default_Version_WWE_103143.sa
Updates some registry info, no practical effect that I know of.

Can't run LoadVDisk.exe
I can't run LoadVDisk.exe with my Mini, I can see the file but it won't run.
Is it locked ?
Or should I make changes with registry first ?

Thanks
Great thanks alot guys

Re: Can't run LoadVDisk.exe
Dihon said:
I can't run LoadVDisk.exe with my Mini, I can see the file but it won't run.
Is it locked ?
Or should I make changes with registry first ?
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You simply click on it! It doesn't display any message. Then you can access the extended_ROM...!!

Thanks guys great help. I personally did not install anything and my phone works still. Even without the patches. I will probably wait for rom update as well.

Can anyone help figure out how to get back smart dial?

Hi guys,
First of all, I'm really new to this(learning all the time!) as I just got my O2 mini 2days ago from ebay.
I have a problem whereby my phone doesn't have smart dial function. I've spent hours reading the threads and trying but to no avail.
Can anyone kind ppl out there help me pls?
FYI, under "device information/version/ExtROM version" section is BLANK. Is this normal?
Really appreciate anyone that can help me out. Thanks a lot!

You can download and install the cab file attached.

Thx Zerimar!!!
But I toy around more with my phone I realise that my phone doesn't even have the ExtROM installed at all! That's main culprit for those missing functions. I don't even have MMS function installed
Can you kindly share with me a complete ExtROM that has all the preloaded softwares?
And also can you give me so simple instructions on how to put back the ExtROM in the phone (I'm really new...)
Again, really appreciate your help!!! Thx man....

I suggest that you keep your Mini the way it is (with BigStorage ROM). The advantages are;
1. You can choose which customization software from O2 to install.
2. 27MB is gained for installing 3rd party software, ie. Navigationi softare, Destktop enhancements, etc.
Before you upgraded your Mini, did you keep a backup of the original ROM and/or the Extended ROM? If you have a backup of your Extended ROM then all you have to do is to copy the .CAB files you want to the SD card, main memory, or storage and to install the .CAB files just click on them from where it was copied to.
If you don't have your Extended ROM backup, then I suggest you go to this forums ftp or wiki and download what you need. I don't have the complete Extended ROM .CAB files since I only keep what I like/need. Secondly, my unit is a generic since here in Switzerland we can buy the units without any contract, or when we renew our contract, we can get a new phone but usually it is a generic model. Out of the 3 providers here, only Orange SIM locks and makes customization to the units.
If still you prefer to put your Mini back to its original form, then all you have to do is to flash your Mini with your ROM backup (if you have it), otherwise download from the ftp any of the latest ROMs available.

Very good advice here.... makes me understand more now.
Ok, I agree with you to keep it's current status now.
I did not upgrade my mini, I bought it new from ebay, thus there is no backup ROM or ExtROM available.
I'm not able to use this forum's ftp. This is how I try, I paste below link in IE,
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Magician
user:xda
paswd:xda
I'm denied access. Any idea on this?
Thx...

by the way, Switzerland is really a nice & beautiful country... Love it!

In your first post you mentioned that "device information/version/ExtROM version" section is BLANK, this somehow indicates that the Mini is configured with BS.
Check using File Explorer or via Active Sync. If you see a folder called Storage from My Device via File Explorer, or My Pocket PC via Active Sync then it's configured with BS. The other way to find out is to do a hard reset by pressing (and keep pressed) the Camera+Power button while pressing the reset switch. Note: This will eventually erase all your data. Be sue to backup first. If you did a hard reset, then at some point in time you will see that something is being installed automatically, meaning no BS.
For more info and guidance, check out the following threads contributed by very generous and dedicated members.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46628
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33305
As for downloading files from the ftp, you should be logged in. The link you attached works perfectly for me. You could also use a ftp client software like CuteFtp.
ps. yep, CH is a nice country but quite expensive. If my memory serves me right, Zurich is the 3rd most expensive city in the world. I guess the only things cheaper here are the Swiss watches, Swiss knives, Swiss cheese, and Swiss chocolates (yummie) :lol:

Hey... it's working now! Thx to you, hehehe.... :lol:
So far so good after I manage to pull out the ExtROM using cuteFTP. Now in experimental mode to try out different stuffs.... getting more interesting.
If I do encounter any problem, I'll post again and hope you can help me once more
I miss the Swiss chocs.... yummy (especially white ones)... hopefully I can go there again soon. Btw, love the Swiss army too!

You're most welcome. Whenever you need help, continue posting on this thread or pm me.

windows mobile 2003 software

HELLO,
IS THERE ANYWHERE ON THIS SITE WHERE I CAN DOWNLOAD A COPY OF WINDOWS 2003SE SO I CAN REINSTALL IT ON MY SPV M1000.
PLEASE HELP.....................

Hello didgeridooplayer.
First, welcome to the forum!
Second: Please refrain from typing in all uppercase letters, it's considered shouting.
As to your question:
I saw you other post in the Himalaya forum, but I reply to this one because I don't know what causes the camera problem.
I don't think you can solve it by 'reinstalling' the OS. This is not a PC. Windows Mobile is embedded in ROM, and although you can upgrade it (because it's actually flash and not real ROM), to clean up the device hard reset is sufficient.
The OS could not have been damaged by any installed program like it can be on the PC.
Now, I am not sure but there may be a Himalaya ROM on the ftp:
ftp://xda:[email protected]
However, Windows Mobile ROM images are custom tailored to a device. It's not like Win XP where you just get a disk and install it on any PC. It has to be custom made by the OEM for each device.
If you already knew this stuff and my post sounded insulting in any way, I am sorry, I just got an impression from your post that you didn't quite understand the issue.

Windows Mobile n stuff
Hi, Firstly thank you for the reply and secondly sorry for the caps. No you have not offended in any way I am a complete newbie numpty and did not know about the things you mentioned I know my way arround a pc but the ins and outs of PDA's are somewhat of a mistery to me. Anyway the reason my cam did not work was because I did a soft reset before the pda installed all its customisations to get round the password problem and therefore it did not get chance to load its camera software or album etc etc. Anyway I am trying to get the guy who sold it to me on ebay to give me a refund but doesnt look to promising (bloomin Ebay is a pain in the bot) but I will see what I can do.
Thanks again...Tim

Hi didgeridooplayer.
Glad I could help.
If you can't get a refund here are a couple of things you can try:
1) If device was locked by password, hard rest should have cleared it and you shouldn't worry about installing the customization since the password has nothing to do with it (it's just some stuff like cellular provider settings and some extra apps the OEM chose to include). Unless the previous owner changed it.
2) Customization is stored on the 'Extended ROM'. This is part of flash that is normally hidden from the user. However with some registry tweaks it can be unlocked and used like extra storage that will not be deleted during hard reset.
I don't know how to do it for your particular device, but if you look in the WiKi, I think you will find the answer. You can then replace just the contents of the Extended ROM (no need to re-flash the whole device) or just install the camera cab from it. That should solve your problem.
P.S. All installations on the device are done by *.cab files. You can launch them by tapping on the file from file explorer on the device.

Re: Windows Mobile n stuff
didgeridooplayer said:
Hi, Firstly thank you for the reply and secondly sorry for the caps. No you have not offended in any way I am a complete newbie numpty and did not know about the things you mentioned I know my way arround a pc but the ins and outs of PDA's are somewhat of a mistery to me. Anyway the reason my cam did not work was because I did a soft reset before the pda installed all its customisations to get round the password problem and therefore it did not get chance to load its camera software or album etc etc. Anyway I am trying to get the guy who sold it to me on ebay to give me a refund but doesnt look to promising (bloomin Ebay is a pain in the bot) but I will see what I can do.
Thanks again...Tim
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Hello,
you stoped the proces of customization. in this process device install all aplication from Extended ROM.
Your album and camera, and maybe other aplication are not runnig because they aren't installed.
Just do a HardReset and wait the customization finish.

JAMin + changing ROM

Hi Guys i own a imate JAMin that i bought and it has telstra branding on the phone/pda, it isnt locked to this carrier, but i need to get rid of there loaded stuff on the pda
what i need to know is a few things if possible please
1. is there a walk through somewhere on how to change the rom to a standard one
2. where can i download a new rom from
3. can i screw it up bad ?
any other help would be great
Thanks
t0ne

Easy, just download Total commander from http://www.ghisler.com/
Open it up and at the top type \Extended_Rom
This will show the contents of your extended rom, you will see loads of things but the ones you want are the cabs relating to your provider. Or all providers actually, Delete allt the cabs that dont start with Default_ these are what brand your device when you hard reset.
Now just hard reset, it will isntall all the normal stuff but will leave you with a brand free jamin.

Hi dannyoneill,
thanks for the program, only problem i have is how do i add the jamin to it so that i can see it and do what u r saying ?
thanks

You need to download and install Windows CE FS plug-in. You will then see a mobile device entry in the file window. I recommend dragging it to the toolbar so you will always have a button for convenient access (total commander can open files directly form the device).
Also I don't remember it now, but if you search this forum there is a registry tweak that will unhide your extended ROM so you can use it for extra storage space (and manipulate files in it using regular explorer both on device and PC). You can use the free PHM Registry editor to apply the tweak.

Just follow the instructions to install total commander onto your PPC. Make sure you click the link to the mobile version and not the desktop version.

thanks dannyoneill, got it working..
jsut a few other questions if u dont mind
im in the \Extended_Rom folder with the default stuff but the telstra stuff i want to get rid of has Default_Telstra_australia_SA_UN_V2.20.CAB and also Default_Australia_Telstra.CAB as the file names, will these be ok to delete still ?
thanks

Yes, you can delete them.
If you really want everything here is safe to delete. What it usually contains are patches like driver updates, applications like the backgammon, antivirus and Skype.
Below is taken from another post, its a little out of date but still good to see whats what. For me. I removed all the operators apart from my own (as it doesnt brand) plus got rid of backgammon, antivirus (totally useless on a PPC) and skype as the latest version is better (especially if you apply the registry fix to get it working)
Autorun.exe
Default_Backgammon_PPC_IMAM001.CAB >>> Backgammon
Default_CAAVPPC_IMEI_Wiz_range.CAB >>> THE DREADED ANTI VIRUS STUFF
Default_CAB-shortcut-CDL-08Sep05.CAB >>> Clearview PDF
Default_cdl_wwe_version.cab >>> Some Imate stuff (Harmless)
Default_ie_view.sa.cab >>> Some Imate stuff (Harmless)
Default_Imate_PPC_SA_V5.5.03.cab >>> Some Imate stuff (Harmless)
Default_SkypeForPocketPCnonxScale.CAB >>> SKYPE FOR NONE XSCALE !!!
Default_SmartDialing_enable_0915_signed.CAB >>> The pretty Dialer and smart-dialer stuff
Install_Tsk.exe >>> This Installs all the “Default_” Files
Setup.exe >>> This allows for Selection of the “Operator Settings”
These are the “Settings” which is not needed at least in the GULF STATES
KPN_Nederland.CAB
MTN_SouthAfrica.CAB
O2_UK_Contract.CAB
O2_UK_PAYG.CAB
Optus_Settings.CAB
Orange_Nederland.CAB
Orange_UK_Contract.CAB
Orange_UK_PAYG.CAB
T-Mobile_Nederland.CAB
T-Mobile_UK.CAB
Telfort_Nederland.CAB
TelstraClear_NZ.CAB
Telstra_Australia.CAB
Virgin_UK.CAB
Vodacom_SA_WAP1.2.CAB
Vodacom_SA_WAP2.0.CAB
Vodafone_AU.CAB
Vodafone_Nederland.CAB
Vodafone_NZ.CAB
Vodafone_UK_Contract.CAB
Vodafone_UK_PAYT.CA
I made a copy of all of the above to an SD card BEFORE DOING ANYTHING else (NoBackUp…learned his lesson……Harry Potter !!!)
So I Reduced my ER to Just
Autorun.exe
Default_Backgammon_PPC_IMAM001.CAB
Default_CAB-shortcut-CDL-08Sep05.CAB
Default_cdl_wwe_version.cab
Default_ie_view.sa.cab
Default_Imate_PPC_SA_V5.5.03.cab
Default_SkypeForPocketPCnonxScale.CAB
Install_Tsk.exe
Setup.exe
How just simply Delete !!!
Don’t forget to hard reset let the imate setup run (will not only install the stuff you did not delete) and try out your new toy.
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dannyoneill thanks heaps,
deleting those to files worked a treat
thanks again
t0ne

Poll for sticking this 3d!
THANKS !!!
..._
P.S.: may I install basic stuff to the ExtROM while it's hidden ?
Or, if I need to unhide it, install, then re-hide, will such software still playable ?
I mean for example:
- Total commander itself
- Resco explorer
- Storage tools
- Sprite Backup
- and so on...
Is it a strange idea ?
Thanks again for this illuminating thread.

You can unlock and install things no problem, not done it myself, done know if they will still be usable after its re-hidden i would think not.
The extended rom is reserved so empty or not its not going to give you more ram or rom storage at all. The best thing to do is unlock it and use it for storage. The annoying thing is if you hard reset you then have to re-unlock it.

t0ne said:
dannyoneill thanks heaps,
deleting those to files worked a treat
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BTW, on the i-mate website's JAMin support pages, you will find specific operator settings for Optus in a downloadable CAB file, which will setup the wireless settings for your device.

"De-Branding" HP 910c...

Hello folks,
I'm rather new to all of this, but I've come across a problem I can't seem to work out on my own.
I purchased a second-hand HP 910c, which had WM 6.1 but in French. It is also "branded" with Rogers software as well. I followed the instructions here to "flash" a ROM on the device which worked fine... but as soon as I boot up the device, it says that there are updates available for my device, and doesn't let me do anything else until I install them. Turns out the "updates" are in fact Roger's software installing on my device, and also UNINSTALLING other useful programs!
What I hope you can help me out with is - how do I disable that automatic update? I think it's called "IPAQ CUSTOMIZATION" or something like that?

Sounds like you've got some Canuck in your extended ROM! See if this works for you: hard reset, and as soon as you see the "updates available" screen come up, soft-reset. (It won't hurt your device, promise.) If I've guessed right, your device will restart but none of the Rogers software will be installed.

I tried that - it still comes up with "HP IPAQ CUSTOMIZATION" upon reboot.
Almost as if there's a file in a "Start-Up" type folder... but I can't go anywhere past that install screen to see...
Any ideas?

i think the only way to disable ipaq customization is to edit the rom initflashfiles.dat under OEM_Lang to take it out from start

keyx said:
i think the only way to disable ipaq customization is to edit the rom initflashfiles.dat under OEM_Lang to take it out from start
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Is there a tutorial around for that, or to get me started?
Also - I'm loading a ROM from here to change the language... does that matter?

gfinockio .. have you had any luck with this?

Yeah, sort of a fluke really. I updated to one of the 6.5 ROMs, didn't like it, so I went back to a 6.1 ROM from HP. That seemed to do it!
I think the key is to do a "full" flash of the ROM. You can't use the SDLoader method, because that just flashes the OS. Using the official update from HP, with the software, should work. There is a package somewhere on these forums that is a "hacked" version that ignores language as well. Take a search (I'd use "minutes" as a key, because that's in the thread!) and keep us updated.

What happens is the clean boot image has a link to the HP customisation program in the windows\startup folder. The way to avoid this program from running is hence to remove this link from the startup folder.
My way of doing this is to connect the iPaq to my PC before starting the iPaq. When the iPaq starts, the screen asking you to click to start the customisation will come up, but until you click, the program will not run yet. In the background, while you can't see it (the customisation screen won't give way to anything else), other programs including Activesync will still run. You can therefore, from the PC, explore into the startup folder and delete the link to the customisation program, all without clicking on the iPaq and hence before the customisation has a chance to run. You can then soft reset, and with the link removed from startup, customisation will not start.

chan200606 said:
What happens is the clean boot image has a link to the HP customisation program in the windows\startup folder. The way to avoid this program from running is hence to remove this link from the startup folder.
My way of doing this is to connect the iPaq to my PC before starting the iPaq. When the iPaq starts, the screen asking you to click to start the customisation will come up, but until you click, the program will not run yet. In the background, while you can't see it (the customisation screen won't give way to anything else), other programs including Activesync will still run. You can therefore, from the PC, explore into the startup folder and delete the link to the customisation program, all without clicking on the iPaq and hence before the customisation has a chance to run. You can then soft reset, and with the link removed from startup, customisation will not start.
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Yeah, I tried that too... but if you flash again (without doing a FULL flash), it might come back on next reset, or for sure on next flash.
The good news is - it IS possible to get rid of it.