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Hey everyone
I want to buy an SD card for my XDA 2 but can't find a 1GB card for less than £179. Does anyone know where the best place to get an SD card is and which one is the best to get whether it is 512 or 1gb.
Thanks
Michael
any feedback yet on the card type/proce/size/speed????:twisted:
mlee2 said:
Hey everyone
I want to buy an SD card for my XDA 2 but can't find a 1GB card for less than £179. Does anyone know where the best place to get an SD card is and which one is the best to get whether it is 512 or 1gb.
Thanks
Michael
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Hi Michael, well obviously the 1gb is better than the 512mb I have both & as they are very new to the market, you gotta pay the price or wait & get them cheaper, but then there will be a 2gb, 5gb ................ :?:
I have just seen that there is the new 2GB MMC card now... it's ment to be the fastest Flash card in the world... faster then Compact flash and all the others...
Writes at about 18MB/s
Reads at about 22.5MB/s
does any one know if our XDA II's will beable to take advantage of the high speeds?
This site claims that there are problems with the sd card slot in the 2i - and the symptoms that they give seem very similar to the ones I am experiencing. Can anyone confirm or deny this? And if its true is there anyway of getting around it?
Thanks
http://www.digireader.com/view_blog.asp?blog_id=208&author_id=2
as i long user of the 2i I can say without a doubt there is a problem with the sd cards as i suffered for over 3 months or more of pure frustration and almost throwing the thing away .
but in the end it was down to the sd card speed ,it doesn't really matter what size you have but it's the speed of the card at the moment i am using a 512 transcend 80X card and it has been running perfectly for the past 4 months or so without any problems .there have been plenty people who have now tried the transcend card and found it to be well 1 of the best so i would recomend you buying 1 of these asap ,if you do a google you should find a place selling 1 of these but just make sure it's has a speed of 80x or else you will have the same problems ..also if you wish to get a bigger card the 1meg works okas well
Hmm, I can't say I'm at all happy with that. I have now borrowed a 512mb card and magically all my problems disappear. its the same make and model as my 1gb card so I can't see its a brand issue.
Are o2 aware of the problem? If they are then I think they're breaking the law by continuing to sell the thing.
Does the problem exist with the 2s as well? If not I might go back to o2 and insist they swap it over...
Thanks for your reply
Hi.
I've had an XDA IIi for a few months and had lots of problems with the phone freezing (especially with tomtom 5). The problems got noticeably worse when using "turbo" mode too.
I emailed tomtom for help with navigator and the strange locking up. After a month, they replied to me and said that the pda must use 80x cards or faster... i bought an 150x 2Gb card and haven't looked back...
The phone can now do it all... i use ttn5 with traffic addon whilst driving and use pocket music to play mp3s at the same time and i'm still able to answer the phone to accept calls...
the only problem i've had with a 2Gb SD-Card is that i can ONLY read/write it in the XDA IIi - no other PDA will touch it and no card reader will recognise it.
dango99 said:
Hi.
i bought an 150x 2Gb card and haven't looked back...
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What brand is your card?
Having already sprung for a 1Gb card I'd hate to have to spend out again becasue of inadequacies in the xda hardware... however if it was an upgrade to 2Gb I might be able to better justify it.
Perhaps this info about card speeds should be posted in the FAQ so that new users have at least some warning of the 2i's problems with SD...
mine is an "a-data" myflash 2gb from here: www.emartbuy.com
£91.65 inc VAT
hope this helps you!
Dan
I would just like to say thanks for this topic, the two problems i've had with the PDA2 (XDAIIi) since i got it earlier this year have been fixed by taking out my 60 speed 1gb sd card.
problem 1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=136972
problem 2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=166348
I am shopping for big SD Card with Xmas Bonus :lol:
I have searched but can't find any info on the maximum adressable memory for storage card slot or advanced specs to match cards, can anyone shed some light?
I had been using a 2gb card since I got my Universal in October and just today received my 4gb card in the mail. I transfered everything over (plus a lot more) including several programs that are installed to the storage card and it's been fine so far.
I have a 1GB card now, 4gb is the largest available at the moment, but we should be seeing 16 and 32 GB cards next year , look here:
http://www.sdcard.com/europe/TextPage.asp?Page=2
The universal must have a limit on adressable memory and I wondered where we would have to stop? Also what is the card speed, there are 133x and 150x around, is it worth getting the faster cards or what?
I have a 1GB card now, 4gb is the largest available at the moment, but we should be seeing 16 and 32 GB cards next year , look here:
http://www.sdcard.com/europe/TextPage.asp?Page=2
The universal must have a limit on adressable memory and I wondered where we would have to stop? Also what is the card speed, there are 133x and 150x around, is it worth getting the faster cards or what?
can you please tell us what is the make of your card?
Whiggy said:
.....is it worth getting the faster cards or what?
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Dont bother, doesnt make a blind bit of difference to your PPC... only when transferring data to your desk/lap top... high speed cards are for high end digicams
philtech44 - now i understand why transfer takes longer through activesync to device than card reader many thanks
my 1GB card is an integral, cost £40 from local indie phone shop
These are to be introduced this month.
OK - they will come out with a 'recent spec' premium, but the are aiming at summer for the 8 gig.
Has anyone already got a 'pre launch' 4 gig working or know if they will be ok in the wirard?
Or for that matter, do you know a maximum capacity the wizard would be able to handle?
Cheers
I have been thinking the same thing myself. I have a 2GB card and that works sweet in my Qtek 9100. Some of the other devices that take SD cards have had some problems with the 4GB SD cards but some of the lower speed ones have worked except the camera does not seem to write to the cards. So i expect the wizard to be the same although the card may work better if formatted to FAT32. I expect the 4 GB minisd cards to be released at around the £150 mark and will come down after a few months. My advise will be to wait as the early ones will prob have teething problems (dont buy ultra fast one as prob wont work!) and it will be cheaper in a couple of months
I got my card from mobymemory.co.uk excellent card with no probs.
Do you have a link to provided for 4 gb mini SD??
Thanks
Damn! I just bought my 1GB one the other day Oh well... I guess this will do me for now, and will buy a 4GB later on in the year if I need to... And yeah, a link would be awesome, thanks
Where are you getting this information from?
I was sure that the limit for mini sd is 2gb.
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Where are you getting this information from?
I was sure that the limit for mini sd is 2gb.
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It seems anything accepting them should work with up to 32 gig
http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS/1141997055.html
Many other sites have been saying for ages that 4gig would ship Q1, leaving 3 weeks to comply!
Got pissed off waiting and suffering "your phone is running low on storage errors" so just bought a 2 gig.
The price has fallen so much that I paid under 60% of the sixty UK pounds they were wanting eight weeks ago.
Welcome to the 2gb club wizardragon! I know I am getting frustrated with the 4gb issue. I have emailed mobymemory twice and had no response concerning the release date of the 4gb minisd card. I seriously doubt they will produce a 8gb version as all new phone models are changing to microsd = sucks.
If a 4gb card is released i may keep my wizard as that would give me a total of 7gb memory, 4+2+1 that would be awesome!
wow 4 gig and than 8 gig mini sd!!?? w0ot we're going to beat SE and with there pro stick duo >.>. darn just ordered a 2 gig mini sd last night. well who cares! this is great news. thank you.
i guess i can sell my video ipod than. im using it less and less these days. with my kjam and samsung d600 i dont think im going to be needing it any more.
The mini SD format seems to be OK for up to 32 gig, although i doubt they will get that far as I think transflash (micro SD) will be pushed more.
Personally I liked the size of SD - as it was a viable size and its very silmilar pin out to MMC meant there were enough about for some car CD players to take them as media.
There are also car CDs with inputs for memory sticks now too.
Hello all,
I used a 4 gb mini sd for around 4 months without any serious issues (soft reset fixed everything for me.) Then, out of nowhere, the card just became unreadable. Couldn't access any data from it and I couldn't even reformat it. Completely dead.
So I started poking around about 4gb cards and found (like I probably should have done before I bought the card) that the current mini SD standard stops at 2gb. These "4GB" cards are really 2gb cards that have been hacked and reformatted to 4gb. Now, apparently this works, but drastically shortens the card's shelf life. It is said that most of them die within a few months, if they last that long.
I just wanted to post a poll regarding this issue. Hope this is of interest to everyone.
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Hello all,
I used a 4 gb mini sd for around 4 months without any serious issues (soft reset fixed everything for me.) Then, out of nowhere, the card just became unreadable. Couldn't access any data from it and I couldn't even reformat it. Completely dead.
So I started poking around about 4gb cards and found (like I probably should have done before I bought the card) that the current mini SD standard stops at 2gb. These "4GB" cards are really 2gb cards that have been hacked and reformatted to 4gb. Now, apparently this works, but drastically shortens the card's shelf life. It is said that most of them die within a few months, if they last that long.
I just wanted to post a poll regarding this issue. Hope this is of interest to everyone.
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Well if what you are saying is true, then shouldn't the same apply to SD cards? I had used a 4gb SD card for 2 years in my Magician and Prophet without a problem...I think it was a Transcend.
Matterhorn said:
Well if what you are saying is true, then shouldn't the same apply to SD cards? I had used a 4gb SD card for 2 years in my Magician and Prophet without a problem...I think it was a Transcend.
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I think it does apply to standard size SD cards too:
I looked at the Sandisk site and the only 4 gig cards that were being sold were listed as SDHC. Nothing on the official site over 2gb that wasn't high capacity. I was able to track down the Trancend card you were talking about from a reseller (and numerous other ones including Ebay) however, if you go to the official Transcend site you see that there are no standard SD cards in a 4gb size.
This leads me to believe that the info I have been reading regarding this is correct. If the manufacturers are really putting out 4gb cards, why are they not on their official websites?
But the point remains that these 4gb cards (hacked or not) do indeed work in the Trinity (as well as other devices.) It's just for how long that is the question. I just want to find out with what regularity these cards dying so we can judge whether or not it is a worthy risk to buy one and trust our precious data to it.
Matterhorn, I appreciate you relaying your experience with the 4gb standard SD card. Perhaps the hacking and reformatting is more stable in the standard size as compared to the mini version? Hopefully this poll will help us figure it out.
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Matterhorn, I appreciate you relaying your experience with the 4gb standard SD card. Perhaps the hacking and reformatting is more stable in the standard size as compared to the mini version? Hopefully this poll will help us figure it out.
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The label on the 4gb SD Transcend looks exactly like the official Transcend color scheme. The card itself is in blue plastic and the label is in vibrant colors with Transcend, 150x, and 4GB written on the label. I believe this is the same one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208086. It also has a serial number stamped on the back. I really don't think it is a fake Transcend.
My Topram 4gb miniSD continues to faithfully work in my Trinity. I don't know anything about this ebay vendor, this link is just for info http://item.express.ebay.com/TOPRAM...320102528838QQihZ011QQtrZexpQQcmdZExpressItem. It came packaged like an authentic card, some others have no professional packaging. Perhaps it will give up one day, if it does I'll report it right away. I know there has been quite a few people stating that their miniSD cards have quit on them, which I'm sure is true, but I can't help but believe that the squeaky wheel gets the grease, meaning that people that have no problems with their cards are less likely to post results.
I've been using a 4gb card in my Trinity for about a month now.
Gave me a few problems with Media player at one stage. The MSME files for the library dissappeared and I couldnt get them deleted to fix the media library problem.
Put the card in my desktop reader and suddenly they appeared again!!
Since then - no probs. Have it well filled up with mixeded media and prog files.
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The label on the 4gb SD Transcend looks exactly like the official Transcend color scheme. The card itself is in blue plastic and the label is in vibrant colors with Transcend, 150x, and 4GB written on the label. I believe this is the same one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208086. It also has a serial number stamped on the back. I really don't think it is a fake Transcend.
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I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this still doesn't account for why 4gb standard SD (non-HC) cards are not on the company's official website.
psargent said:
Hello all,
So I started poking around about 4gb cards and found (like I probably should have done before I bought the card) that the current mini SD standard stops at 2gb. These "4GB" cards are really 2gb cards that have been hacked and reformatted to 4gb. Now, apparently this works, but drastically shortens the card's shelf life. It is said that most of them die within a few months, if they last that long.
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Wouldnt it stand to reason that if they were 2gb cards "hacked" to 4gb they wouldnt have the capability to store 4gb worth of data? What you are inferring is the "Tardis" effect. Bigger on the inside than the outside which to my knowledge is not currently possible. A bit like having a normal sized mini car with 7 MPV seats inside. I think is just a matter of intermittent hardware to hardware clash/incompatibility not a 2gb hack.
Must admit,have suffered from the card corruption syndrome for the first time in my life whilst using the M700 trinity.Talk about heart attack!!!! The thing that makes me think it is a hardware compatability issue is that I have used that same 4gb miniSD in my wizard variants,prophet variants,treo's etc for over 7months no stress. Hence I know the card is good (thanx mobymemory!)
4GB Problems
I bought a no-name 4GB miniSD cheap on ebay. It worked fine initially in my Trinity, but only took a few launches of TomTom to get corrupted - "no maps found" and hundreds of smiley faces in File Explorer. I was always able to reformat and start over, but soon got tired of that. Strangely the same card performed perfectly when used in an I-mate Jam (inside an SD adapter) or when in a card reader on the PC. I got rid of the card and got a Kingston 2GB and have had no problems since.
I just got more TomTom maps and am trying to decide whether to take the plunge again. Anyone got any positive 4GB stories?
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I bought a no-name 4GB miniSD cheap on ebay. It worked fine initially in my Trinity, but only took a few launches of TomTom to get corrupted
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So far so good, happens the same to me
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Strangely the same card performed perfectly when used in an I-mate Jam (inside an SD adapter)
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I do not have the Jam but tested on my XDAII and works perfectly!!
How can I format it?
well i have a 4gb trans. SD 150x it works in my other mp3 player now for a long time, but as far as mini i dont know
i got a topram atm and it seems like it worked for a format or 2 and died after didnt even get to use it in my pocketPC, sending RMA request now :/
i was really looking forward to hear more good news about the 4gb topram miniSD but i dont know atm
I think maybe the poll should be changed to include SDHC cards since that is a variable that is very important on judging the 4gb cards. SDHC cards work but are just not reliable yet in the current roms.
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I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this still doesn't account for why 4gb standard SD (non-HC) cards are not on the company's official website.
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Now this is very strange:
Go to http://www.topram.com/
look at the picture in the middle right under "MiniSD" (orange background): The picture shows a 4.0GB MiniSD Card
BUT
If you click on the picture they tell you only the following cards do exist:
120X 2GB miniSD
120X 1GB miniSD
60X 512MB miniSD
60X 256MB miniSD
no 4.0GB MiniSD
What is this??????????
I tried very hard to find Matterhorns Card in Germany. No success. Simply cant find them. Not on any german online shop. Not in any real world shop. Very very strange.
saminegm said:
Now this is very strange:
Go to http://www.topram.com/
look at the picture in the middle right under "MiniSD" (orange background): The picture shows a 4.0GB MiniSD Card
BUT
If you click on the picture they tell you only the following cards do exist:
120X 2GB miniSD
120X 1GB miniSD
60X 512MB miniSD
60X 256MB miniSD
no 4.0GB MiniSD
What is this??????????
I tried very hard to find Matterhorns Card in Germany. No success. Simply cant find them. Not on any german online shop. Not in any real world shop. Very very strange.
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Oh ye of little faith
I bought mine from an ebay shop. You won't find them in Germany because they are from Asia and they're not marketed here. It came in sealed plastic and looked very professionally packaged. As far as the web site goes...how up to date are half the manufacturers web sites on the web?...not very.
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=4gb+miniSD+topram&category0=
My 4gb SD Transcend card works perfect now that I have updated WM6.
mmone3 said:
My 4gb SD Transcend card works perfect now that I have updated WM6.
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That's very good news. Thanks for that info!
good morning guys.
let me share some information i have about flash memory.
few month ago one big electronic shop in my ciy was offering usb flash disk of sizes up to 16 gb. in very cheap price.
alot of my frinds buy that memory.
after few days alot of them returen to the shop to exchange them becuse the memory damged.
some of them did not have anyproblem untile today !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the reason is .
these memory are just 4 gb memeory and haked to be like 16 gb.
so if u try to write one bite over 4 gb you will start write this bite over the first bite of card and you will damge the data on that bite. and maybe the card will not be usable again.
this hake is known to be used on other media before flash memorys.
it was used in some hard disk to foll consumers.
the same story here.
if u have a 4 gb Mini-SD . just try to put more than 2 gb and your data will be gone (bye bye bye). maybe the card will be not usable again .
hssona said:
good morning guys.
if u have a 4 gb Mini-SD . just try to put more than 2 gb and your data will be gone (bye bye bye). maybe the card will be not usable again .
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This theory has been proven to be not true over and over again...search the forums.
hm, hello and from me..
I bought 4 gb minisd Albatron, and after 2 days, the card just stopped. I tryed to format it, but no success. The card just died. After that i read this topic and searched on the albatron site to find some mini sd 4 gb card, and i cant find... after that i exchange the card with 1 gb Kingston and since then - no problems at all.. And i think that this 4 gb minisd cards are really hacked and if you have luck - you may use it maybe 5-6 months.. but i really dont buy 4 gb card, until the manufacturer says that they have one.
Regards,
4Gb Topram mini SD - fine. I've used 2 of these and they have been OK.
2Gb Transcend mini SD - useless. Would corrupt in a few hours no matter what I tried.
1Gb O2 branded mini SD - fine.
I'm still using a generic 4GB card that I bought of EBay and its settling down fine after about 3 months use. although at times, it can be just about noticably slow.
I've had a lot of trouble with the card 'dissappearing' ow and again and the Media Player library going awol. However, the fix's for those problems are well published on other threads.
I purschased a Sandisk 4GB SDHC card hoping it might be a bit faster, th Trinity cant even see it!! So much for SDHC support.