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I want to get a 2GB Sandisk and I was wondering what is the cheapest way to get all of the 2gb to work on the tmobile mda? I heard i gotta buy a card reader or something but is this the only way? also what is the best brand 2GB/Card Reader (if i have to get a card reader)? Is 2GB the highest I can go with the MDA? thats all I hear people talking about.
Also what exactly would I need a 128mb backup card for? I already changed to the custom rom (2.17) so im j/w what its for
the cheapest way would be to put the card in your pda and transfer the data you want to it, no card reader needed, tho a card readers faster
so what exactly is the point of the card reader? I've read about some people being limited to 1gb with the 2gb miniSD cards
sorry end of my post should have read, a card reader writes faster.
think speed is the advantage
Not long ago a lot of people had trouble writing large files to an SD card via a PPC. As I recall, ActiveSync would take a dump during the write. I don't know how relevant that is anymore but I keep a card reader handy just in case. And as mentioned, it's magnitudes faster.
markgamber said:
Not long ago a lot of people had trouble writing large files to an SD card via a PPC. As I recall, ActiveSync would take a dump during the write. I don't know how relevant that is anymore but I keep a card reader handy just in case. And as mentioned, it's magnitudes faster.
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what exactly is faster? the transfer with a card reader? just a little confused what brand should I be goin with for both?
can anyone help with the brand for the miniSD and the card reader? Have seen people post about problems with formatting ni such
I personally use a generic 2gb card I bought off eBay for a total of $60.00 US. Similar to http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-MiniSD-2GB-...temZ9705544950QQcategoryZ118260QQcmdZViewItem.
The reader I use I also got off eBay (it came with a 256mb MMC card I bought about a year ago for my old phone). It is basically the same as http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-2-0-SD-MMC-...94559134QQcategoryZ103409QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem.
Copying 1gb worth of MP3 files to the card using ActiveSync 4.1 takes about 20 minutes. Copying them using the card reader only takes about 5 minutes.
Hope that helps.
i got a sandisk one off ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....PageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT
ordered myself one last week 2GB SANDISK MINISD , got it saturday just gone and no problems £49 total including p&p + insurance
think there going for £45 UKP inc p&p now
scrap that £41 inc p&p!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2GB-SANDISK-M...605200179QQcategoryZ18871QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
SanDisk are a good reliable maker of memory cards and cheap. I have not had one fail on me yet. 2GB is the highest anyone makes at the moment on MiniSD. As for card readers, anything made in the last year should work as you just use an adaptor to put the MiniSD into a SD slot, if it doesn't have a MiniSD slot. Oh yes, SanDisk MiniSD cards come with the adaptor.
Has anyone focused on the SLC / MLC flash-chip layouts being used?
SLC is faster, more reliable, better compatible, lower power consumption and has longer lifetime but is more expensive. Chip mainly made by Samsung.
Mobymemory sells them in uk @ approx 60 GBP
MLC is the opposite. Chip mainly made by Toshiba. Branded as Sandisk, Kingston and others.
It is rumoured that a lot of high speeds cards are all SLC, but until now I havent found any confirmation.
Hello all, anyone know what the max card support for the universals sd/mmc reader is
Thanks
Hi there,
If I'm not wrong, the manual says clearly that universal can read/write SD cards up to 2GB (unless someone with a better expertise than me knows something different).
In any case, this is not completely right, many people uses 4GB cards (including me), but it seems that not all the applications can cope with them, photo camera is one of them, if I'm not wrong, it will not save the photos to the SD unless it has 2GB or less free space.
Somewhere else in this forum, someone else said that he even uses a sam..ung 8GB SD card (very expensive).
Hope this helps
kecido said:
Hi there,
If I'm not wrong, the manual says clearly that universal can read/write SD cards up to 2GB (unless someone with a better expertise than me knows something different).
In any case, this is not completely right, many people uses 4GB cards (including me), but it seems that not all the applications can cope with them, photo camera is one of them, if I'm not wrong, it will not save the photos to the SD unless it has 2GB or less free space.
Somewhere else in this forum, someone else said that he even uses a sam..ung 8GB SD card (very expensive).
Hope this helps
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Yup i use a 8GB Samsung SD Card to watch DVD's. I dont have the time to encode DVD's to avi xvid format so i just copy them directly to the 8GB card and watch them on the tcpmp player. Quite fun i believe. I am waiting for the 32GB SD Card release by samsung and sandisk.
im using the 4gb 150x sd card from mobymemory (£47) no probs! nice and quick too noticed tomtom load quicker.
also im using the newest qtek rom and the camera stores to card no probs (dont have to have 2gb used as per some other complaints)
Im getting the 4gb Transcend sd card soon.. im currently using 2gb transcend but I soon realized it still isnt enough...the bigger, the better of course
nuclear, I don't understand... how is an 8GB SD card possible??? 4GB should be the absolute max.
Does the Universal support SDHC in one of the newer ROMs or something?
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nuclear, I don't understand... how is an 8GB SD card possible??? 4GB should be the absolute max.
Does the Universal support SDHC in one of the newer ROMs or something?
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Well the device will always show you 2000MB regardless of the ROM. But you can put more than 2000MB on your 8GB card and it will read all the files and you can use them. Its just that at this part the memory monitor will show your SD card in the negative section or full. All SD Card are compatible in the HTC Universal. Enjoy.
I am waiting for the 32GB SD Card by Samsung and SanDisk
Brain... does... not... compute.
Nuclear, I need more info. What card did you get? What brand? Is it SD or SDHC? How did you format it?
What's different about the Universal that makes it possible?!?
joe_dude said:
Brain... does... not... compute.
Nuclear, I need more info. What card did you get? What brand? Is it SD or SDHC? How did you format it?
What's different about the Universal that makes it possible?!?
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Its a SD. Samsung 150X 8GB SD Card for $200 or so. I formatted it when i insert it into the Universal. Then i hooked it up to my PC. Transfered a DVD into it. And then back into the Universal and it played the DVD!!!
Hmmm I got one of these
http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Item(1239)-SDSDPH-1024-SanDisk_Ultra_II_SD_Plus_USB_1GB.aspx
MUCH faster transfers when you put it straight in your PC. I'm thinking of getting the new 2Gb version soon
nuclear
We all want to see your super card 8GB. Please will take photographs cards on background your universal or you have no photo?
In the same way report us address where we can book the card on 32 GB or you have no internet address?
I think nuclear you fibber!!!!!
nuclear said:
Well the device will always show you 2000MB regardless of the ROM.i think u must be wrong!
look my 4gb card, and its showing:3921.69 MB total
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well im just pretty much after a reliable card , one that will store my app data etc but im worried ill get one that wont be able to do what i want
well mines fine matey, nice and quick too, compared to my 1gb puremedia one. so ill recomend my 4gb 150X one from moby memory with 5 year waranty (free usb card reader too) about £47.
Thanks, ordering one now
iv currently got every single photo we have on our laptop of the kids (thousands) on the card. all my non vital apps, i just have handy menu, journal bar and a few others staying in the phones memory
then dumped the movies, saw3, world trade centre, happy feet and jackass2 on the card, plus tomtom uk & euro maps and still got just under a gig left
daddy k said:
iv currently got every single photo we have on our laptop of the kids (thousands) on the card. all my non vital apps, i just have handy menu, journal bar and a few others staying in the phones memory
then dumped the movies, saw3, world trade centre, happy feet and jackass2 on the card, plus tomtom uk & euro maps and still got just under a gig left
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My Universal screwed up my precious 4GB SanDisk Extreme III card and my 8GB Samsung. Literally it made my 8GB to 2GB and my 4GB to 2GB. I lost 6GB of space on my 8GB card into nothing. I am contacting tech support all day and this is what they posted. THE MAX IS 2GB!!!! >>>>>.<<<<< scary ;(
http://www.sandisk.com/Compatibility/Device(8016)-i-mate-JasJar.aspx
I was going through the SD specifications, and it looks like that SD 1.1 could support up to 64GB (!!!) using 32KB clusters.
Unfortunately, this won't ever happen, since SD 2.0 flags anything above 2GB as a memory error.
8GB should be possible because FAT32 defaults to 4KB clusters, which would match. Larger capacity would need reformating to match the larger SD clusters, but technically it should be possible, IMHO.
So probably some of the Samsung OEMs do work at 8GB using SD 1.1. But I'm seeing the new auctions say SD 2.0 compatible only.
Oh well, I can live with 4GB, but I hope Windows Mobile adds support for SDHC and MMCplus.
Nuclear, the 4GB Sandisk I believe is SDHC, so it will probably screw things up. The 8GB Samsung you could probably reformat on your PC.
If you have an SDHC and an SD USB reader, use the SD one, as the SDHC one might force you down to 2 GB.
Hey, it's just my guess from reading the specs.
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Nuclear, the 4GB Sandisk I believe is SDHC, so it will probably screw things up. The 8GB Samsung you could probably reformat on your PC.
If you have an SDHC and an SD USB reader, use the SD one, as the SDHC one might force you down to 2 GB.
Hey, it's just my guess from reading the specs.
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My SanDisk 4GB Extreme III is a SDHC? I was sure i bought a SD only. It says SD on it....
As for my 8GB my PC detects it as only 2GB. Reformatted and again only 2GB. I know another way to fix it. Partition MagiC!!! I lost 6GB in partition space. And same with the other 4GB card. Once i partition it every 2GB it will make 3 cards in 1 . Well stay tuned and i will let you know how paritioning the space helped.
I was told by Leaf Wireless, the distributors of HTC in SA and Africa that the Hermes will support a 4gb micro card(Trans Flash).
I am not sure if this has been posted before, but there seemed to be speculation about this in the past on some threads.
Can anyone who has actually tried this confirm.
I am not sure if the new ROM's available have anything to do with this or not.
I believe 4GB requires FAT32 format. Try formatting a 1 or 2GB with FAT32 and see if it operates.
The Hermes can definately handle FAT 32 formated cards. I have flashed my Hermes using a 1GB micro SD card formated to FAT 32 several times with no problems. My 2GB card that I keep in the phone is also formated to FAT 32.
There have been differing reports concerning whether the 4GB SDHC format is supported or not. What we do know is this: SDHC in the registry doesn't stand for SD High Capacity.
speed compare - FAT16 vs. FAT32
I have 512MB Kingston, I tryed to use FAT16 and also FAT32 and benchmark speed on this card - FAT32 was faster, but only at some sizes of files. this results is for FAT32, tomorrow, when I am back to my PC I can format card to FAT16 and update this post with new images. otherwise, for me is 512MB enough. I have mp3 creative zen player, and I dont need use TyTN as video/mp3 player, only as storage for my documents, and installation files, so question if 4GB card work is for only matter of interest.
but there is one important thing. If you using card bigger than 512MB, it is better to use FAT32, coz if you dont you waste your space (it is known problem from PC disks). if someone have a bigger card, than 512MB try to format to FAT16, use pocket mechanic Slack Analysis function and you can see how much space is not used. on my card at this time is on FAT32 only 1,60MB (0,59%). on FAT16 is much more.
all results of benchmark is in archive. tomorrow I will update this post for results on FAT16, and also Slack analysis report.
.:update:.
rest of benchmark, tested FAT16, slack for current cluster size (8kB) is 1.10 % which is 3,40MB instead of 1,60MB for FAT32. This results is only for me, you can have different results, I have used only 50% of capacity.
Did we determine that someone ACTUALLY has a 4gb MicroSD card and IS using it formatted in some way (FAT16/FAT32)?
If we EVER get some of the SDHC micro cards in at work then i will (cough cough) sacrifice one for the xda team, but i predict it will be a LONG time before they are even ordered (no demand for them as of yet)
mrvanx said:
If we EVER get some of the SDHC micro cards in at work then i will (cough cough) sacrifice one for the xda team, but i predict it will be a LONG time before they are even ordered (no demand for them as of yet)
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How can there not be a demand? My 2GB one is stuffed full!
Zilch.
The retailer i work for (just a dead end weekend job...im an engineer student in uni) doesnt sell to people as technically minded as us, most people use the sd micro cards for mediocre phones like the Moto-razr etc... Its a home retailer primarily, they have only just started selling the 2gb versions.
mrvanx said:
The retailer i work for (just a dead end weekend job...im an engineer student in uni) doesnt sell to people as technically minded as us, most people use the sd micro cards for mediocre phones like the Moto-razr etc... Its a home retailer primarily, they have only just started selling the 2gb versions.
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So? Even your average iPod user knows you can stuff twice as many MP3s onto a 4GB card as you can with a 2GB one. Surely?
Zilch.
Been a couple of months now.
Anyone tried and succeeded or failed with a 4Gb MicroSD in the Hermes?
SOOOOOOON!
Not here yet, but right around the corner. These are SD NOT SDHC. Should work fine. I will post results when mine arrives.
http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4159987
If someone can actually get the 4gb card working then i think we have some bright prospects to actually see higher capacities[8gb+] working since they all use the sdhc format. Although i still dont know why the htc peepz didnt put a rubber cover [or even a plastic one for that matter] on the sd slot. Currently there is just soo much potential for dust,grime and moisture to get in there!
I do understand the point that <b>mrvanx </b> is making. The majority of the mobile community today are more than happy with their 1gb cards...and when there is no significant demand...then there is no motif for a [reasonably priced] supply!
I emailed HTC Europe about this and I got a reply that the Hermes is able to work with SDHC Cards, but HTC Europe only advises card up to 2 gig. So....we still don't know anything.....
4Gb SDHC seems not to work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308679&page=2&highlight=4gb+micro+sd
Anyone can confirm this? Or maybe someone got it working?
In my area, 4Gb micro SDHC is not even available in shops.
Anyone knows, if there will be 4Gb micro SD (without HC) available?
Regards,
ARo
Confusion
Some people here seem to be talking about SDHC and other SD cards. From what I understand MicroSDHC wont work and no one has tried a 4Gb MicroSD card yet.
If you're in the UK it looks like 4Gb MicroSD cards are now available:
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/3359487/Sandisk-Micro-SD-4GB/Product.html
Anyone bought this and tried it yet?
If i could redirect you guys to THIS POST.........anyone confirm my thinking on this?
I have a 4gb microSDHC card (bought it from eBay) and it definitely does NOT work in my TyTN.
SkyyBoy said:
I have a 4gb microSDHC card (bought it from eBay) and it definitely does NOT work in my TyTN.
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Remember dude, there has been no such update or even attempt at one yet. You may be quite valuable for testing some patches if you keep hold of it.
ok guys... some info...
There are SDHC drivers for Windows Mobile 5 & 6, they are not included in your ROM's at the moment.
The Hermes USB hardware (Samsung 2440) 'DOES' theoretically support SDHC cards, but there is no way of telling if the firmware on the controller supports it.
If there is a hardware programmer out there that can help i can sacrifice a device...
Hey,
in Germany we get the Kaisers later
But if we get I want a big SD Card.
The 4GB is tested and works
How ist the 6GB Micro SD, in comes in two weeks to the German market and the lowest price is 49 Euro (not much more than the 4GB).
Do you have experience, it works?
Oliver
A User with a HTC Touch said it works with 6GB SDHD Cards.
Have any of who are a proud owner of a Kaiser a 6GB in use or tesed?
Thanks!
Oliver
I have my 6GB sandisk card on order. Will hopefully be able to report on tuesday next week.
Where did you find it in stock?
amuneer said:
I have my 6GB sandisk card on order. Will hopefully be able to report on tuesday next week.
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Carphone warehouse has the sandisk 6gb in stock and it works fine in my Kaiser
I'm already using the Sandisk 6GB Micro SDHC card in my KAISER and can asure everybody that It works properly.
From this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329777&page=6
I just got mine 1 hour ago
I formated using SK-Tools, transfered the content from my old 4GB to the new one.
- Sector size: 512 bytes
- Sector per cluster: 8
- Cluster size: 4096 bytes
- Backup copy of FAT: -
- Usable clusters: 1490123
According to the Resco Explorer -> Storage Card -> Properties
- Total space: 5.68 GB (5820.79 MB)
- Used space: 1.92 GB (1961.32 MB)
- Free space: 3.77 GB (3859.48 MB)
i work at att
the official word on the tilt, the att locked verision of the kaiser, is that it supports up to a 32gb micro sd card. this comes straight from a htc lead training on the product in atlanta. i would say it would also be true for the unlocked version, sandisk was there and they demoed a 8gb on it, obviously 32 micros dont exsit yet
MicroSDHC 6GB Confirmed working. Recieved mine 2 days ago.
Got mine a few days ago, works fine. Currently 2 gig's free. When loading the card with a Sandisk MobileMate SD+ USB reader on my Vista PC the transfer rates are 8-9 MB/sec. which is pretty fast. My Sandisk UltraII CF Cards transfer at around 4MB/sec.
Not like it should surprise anyone any more, but I just got my Sandisk 6GB MicroSD card from mydigitaldiscount.com and it works like a charm. I loaded it with about 4 GB of music and video...
The card is a Class 4 SDHC card. I still haven't seen an answer to the question of "up to what class of card can the Kaiser handle?" I.e. if eventaully Class 8 cards become available, is it worth the money to step up to it? Cuz if the Kaiser can't handle that speed, its wasting money...Anyone know?
jomo25 said:
Cuz if the Kaiser can't handle that speed, its wasting money...Anyone know?
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I would imagine all classes are compatible. Even if the Kaiser cannot make use of the C8 speed, if you need to transfer stuff faster, put it in a card reader and transfer using that, at least it will mean it would be quicker to get large amounts of data onto your kaiser.
6Gb Sandisk MicroSDHC works just fine on the Kaiser
I've been using a 6Gb Sandisk MicroSDHC for 2 weeks and it works just fine!
evilc said:
I would imagine all classes are compatible. Even if the Kaiser cannot make use of the C8 speed, if you need to transfer stuff faster, put it in a card reader and transfer using that, at least it will mean it would be quicker to get large amounts of data onto your kaiser.
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I understand that. Clearly, I realize it would still work. But if I buy a C8 and I only use it at C4 speed, then it's somewhat pointless. Im willing to spend to get the fastest card I can that will still be worthwhile...
So to clarify, the Vario III can take cards like this one without any problems?
EDIT: I risked getting the Moby Memory one, guarenteed next day delivery, even with the postal strikes, should get here Friday.
I can report that my Sandisk 6GB card works perfectly on my Tilt with HTC ROM.
I just received my 6GB SanDisk Micro SDHC card today and it works perfectly!!
Can confirm that the Sandisk (SDSDQ-6144 Class 4) with 6 GB works perfectly on the TyTN II.
But can anyone confirm if the new Sandisk (SDSDQR-8192) with 8 GB will also work ?
This microSD card will be available here in ~1 week.
P.S.
I can further confirm - as I just experimented - that in the imate Ultimate 8150 no card beyond 2 GB is even recognized !
I have no idea if it is a problem with a driver or the hardware limitation of the built-in card reader itself.
Same old Missing card problem, even with 6GB MicroSD
Well, after my 6gb Sandisk from Amazon working perfectly for the last week, I decided to transfer a few movies using the included card reader. Placed my card back in, and no card to be seen. Looked at the regedit fixes from way back using Search, saw settings were exactly what was talked about.Anyhow,looks like after all this time, still no official fix for Hermes missing storage card fix. Also followed advice, to drop the card back into the unit while power on. I do see the card now, however have the classic Storage Card (with a few folders), and now Storage Card2 with most of my files. If anyone has found a more recent,100% fix, wouldn't mind finding it. Can't stand the thought of going through this each time. I suppose the best thing might be to NEVER take out your card and use AS. But sure makes a nice difference, transferring directly from PC to reader. Does anyone see any problem in simply copying all files from Storage Card2 to Storage Card as a solution ? at least until I can find a permenant fix?
Micro SDHC for AT&T Tilt in US
Does the AT&T Tilt support Micro SDHC memory cards? I found some specs say yes and others say no.
I think I read that the max card size for HD2 is 16Gb but can't find it (in the manual or searching here). What's the biggest card users are using so far? And an views on make / speed etc? I'm not running apps from the card yet but may do in the future.
Thanks for any info in advance.
I've got a 16gb SDHC Class 2 card in mine at the moment and am happily running apps, games, movies and music from it without any problems. Also used an 8gb SDHC class 4 card without any problems too.
Think I read somewhere that 32gb cards will work with the HD2 but can't remember where. Are 32gb cards out yet?
The biggest card it'll take is 32Gb, but I haven't seen anyone selling those yet.
Not sure how much of a difference the speed of the card makes - I've heard people say it does matter, and others saying it doesn't matter when dealing with a phone, cos the phone could only communicate at a certain speed with the card anyway (as opposed to a computer with a direct USB bus access). I'm not sure if anyone's tested it conclusively.
Moby memory takes preorders on 32Gb
Thanks for the input folks. A 16 for me then...