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Hi,
I have an unlocked wizard (MDA Vario) which worked perfectly for several weeks.
It was switched off, I thought because of an empty battery. I attempted to restart 3 times but it hanged during bootscreen ...
But the big problem is that nothing happens when I connect it to my pc to recharge, it doesn't even seem to charge when I connect it to the adaptor to recharge
So if it's a hardware failure, I cannot return it under warranty because in this situation I cannot relock it .
Can anybody help me out pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaase ?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Stoffel
Im having the same problem... alomost.
My bettery died and then it wouldnt start or charge. I was told to take the battery out and grab an old charger and expose the wires and directly apply the wires to the battery. It worked but my 9100 died again beofer it could fully boot and it still wont charge. I have tried the wire to battery charging method again and it doesnt seem to work anymore.
You may want to give it a try??
Out of curiosity, what ROM do you have installed?
Thanks to Dalamario the problem is fixed ...
He provided this link with an easy solution for this very annoying problem . I really thought my device or battery was defect :shock:
Check this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40399&highlight=
I got a used wizard today,it is a few weeks old I also got a cradle with it.
I pluged in the cradle to the USB port and the charger to power, after playing with it for 1-2 hours I placed the wizard on the cradle to charge and after a few mins i noticed that it was over heating. I removed it from the cradle right away and noticed that the battery was droping 1% every minute or so. After it was down to 27% i removed the charger and left only the usb connection and placed the wizard on the cradle again. it was charging fine, when it was up to 90% removed it from the cradle and again was droping fast.
When it was down to around 25-30% of the battery I did a soft reset and since then I can never get it to start again also the red charging light does not show.
What the heck is wrong with it? I also get a light burning smell from the bottom of the wizard where the connector is located.
Any help?
I need your lights guys.
Don't like the sound of the light burning smell, that sounds like an electrical fault. It looks like your battery has died and the wizard battery setup is well known to do this. You need to plug it into the official mains charger (not the usb one) as this has an output of 1A, enough to kick start the wizard battery into life and start the charging. You need to wait a short while though before the light comes on. If this fails try to get a new battery and try that. Any more light burning smells and it needs to go back to the supplier.
I would suggest that you send it back to replace/repair. The rapid dropping of the battery power suggest that it is using power somewhere (illegally). I've heard cases of battery caught on fire, etc. and I won't suggest you to use it anymore until you sort out the 'burning' smell.
First of all thanks for your replys.
I pluged the charger on it and the red charging light came on after a while.
charged for over 6 hours and its still red? I think after been charged should change to green? right?
anyways after all that still doesnt want to turn on. I got it to start a couple of times but only to the point that shows the splash screen with the rom numbers and then it turns back off.
Should I give it a smash across the room on the wall? done that with some other things and worked just kiding.
Forgot to add that up to the point when i did the soft reset the device was working fine except the charge drop. Soft reset was done while it was working ( turned on)..... if thats any help.
i thinking u need flash phone with jafwm
and here u will find 3 flashs
www.gsm-support.info
fonec said:
i thinking u need flash phone with jafwm
and here u will find 3 flashs
www.gsm-support.info
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That ain't gonna do jack sh1t to it. If it can't start to get into bootloader, it can't flash....and it's not a flash issue.
Usually the red light means power but not charging - happens to my qtek 9100 when I let it get too flat and I have to remove and insert the battery while the mains adaptor is attached - others have to 'jump start' the battery by directly connecting to a PSU - I wouldn't do this with yours.
From what you have said it sounds like a short somewhere. Any signs of water damage? Warranty? What Wizard do you have and what country are you in?
Richard
I got the wiza 200 O2 xda mini S from a guy in UK from ebay. The idiot sold me a cradle for it with an adaptor that says 12V on it (Like an idiot that I am i just noticed that) but then again how am I supposed to think that he gave me an adaptor that its not made for it when it says on the back of it "for Imate - Kjam". Do you guys think thats what burned the **** out of the unit ?
dont forget that some times turns on shows the ROMS numbers and turns off.
No water damage... I think its on warranty... I live in Greece.
Might not be the cradle - it could be it steps down internally to 5v. Use a meter and check what it outputs to the phone. Warranty with XDA's are 2 years to the *original* purchaser. As they are only supplied with an airtime agreement then that isn't you.
Richard
have you tried changing batteries to a new one? Seriously, thats the easiest thing you could do right now and you could actually get results.
Ok this is what I did.
Removed the baterry from the device,
got a 12V 1 Amp power supply that I had lying around and give it a few shots connecting it to the battery giving it an electro shock.
(If you're going to try this be very carefull.<<<< DONT LEAVE the power supply connected to the battery>>>> just give it a few shots 1 second on and off.
That was it.
It started working, device turned on and now its charging (I think) yellow light is on.
I'm going to leave it on for a few hours and see what happens.
Wish me good luck. I'll let you know soon.
ok... this is what happend.
Battery is drained and its not charging due to a blown fust on the main board.
I open the phone and placed and solder a little wire over the fuse.
Still does not charge. ^%$#%$#$^%$*
Before I replaced the fuse or should i say short it the yellow light would come on for a few min and then red again. Now when I charge the battery with another external power supply the pda comes on for a few mins and then dies again. ( no charging light whatsoever).
Does anyone know where to get a mainboard for it and about how much it costs?
Asking for help again.
SmartMan said:
ok... this is what happend.
Battery is drained and its not charging due to a blown fust on the main board.
I open the phone and placed and solder a little wire over the fuse.
Still does not charge. ^%$#%$#$^%$*
Before I replaced the fuse or should i say short it the yellow light would come on for a few min and then red again. Now when I charge the battery with another external power supply the pda comes on for a few mins and then dies again. ( no charging light whatsoever).
Does anyone know where to get a mainboard for it and about how much it costs?
Asking for help again.
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Hey man, sorry to hear about that.
The best you can do is to claim your money from ebay.
You probably killed it when you pluged in the 12V PSU. That's 230% of the normal Volts! Otherwise sell it for parts.
I'm in the process of claiming the money back from the IDIOT that sold it to me.
Lets see if that part of Ebay works as good.
SmartMan said:
I'm in the process of claiming the money back from the IDIOT that sold it to me.
Lets see if that part of Ebay works as good.
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Doubt it. Did you ask the seller for help before opening the phone and voiding the original warranty on the device?
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ok... this is what happend.
I open the phone and placed and solder a little wire over the fuse.
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Not a good idea IMO as now the blame is on you as previously he may have been able to get warranty service from the original vendor.
Richard
I did ask.
He is not the original buyer.
what was I suposed to do.... track back 2-3 buyers to find the original... send it to him so he can have it repaired? Anyway it was out of warranty because of the burned fuse that says that some other charger was used with it.
I had a similar thing happen but fortunately not as bad as yours. Twice now my battery has mysteriously drained completely. The last time when I tried to turn the unit on, it flashed the boot screen for a couple of seconds then poof, no more juice. When I plugged it into the USB port, nothing, no lights, no charge, no recognition from Activesync, I thought the unit was fried. I use Tmobile and got to admit they did send me a replacement fairly quickly. Before I packed up my unit I thought maybe I should plug it in using the wall charger and presto, it came on and is working fine. I have no idea what causes this but do know that if the battery is completely discharged the USB port can not over come this to put a charge on.
Same thing happened to me, kind of strange though. The charge was perhaps 70% to the best of my knowledge. I flashed it with Mr. Clean ROM and booted it up.. it came in fine into WM5, then it started the installation of the 3 progs or whatever comes with Mr. Clean.. after the second finished the unit just died *poff*. Screen blank, no responce to power buttons or any other buttons for that matter.
I've tried taking out the battery for different intervals of time, no luck. I've tried using the AC charger, no luck. No lights, sounds, telepathy or matrix ****.. it just lies there like a dummy phone.. hmm what to do. Bought it from a guy in UK (im in sweden) on eBay, don't think I will have much luck there.. even though it's brand new...
Any thouhgts?
I have had this problem - I bought a replacement battery and all is now fine. Another thread in this group states that the battery cannot charge without the OS up - so if the battery is completely discharged then it is impossible to charge through the phone. The only solution seems to be somehow to charge the battery directly - as appears to have been done earlier in this thread.
Chris
p.s. if anyone knows of another way to do it I'd be interested to hear as I'd like to revive my old battery and keep it as a spare
Hello everyone!
Lately I installed Molski's ROM (3.0.0.0) and it worked 2 days without any problems. I had to recharge the battery. I used usb to charge Wizard as I sometimes do without any problems. Wizard was On up to 30% battery, After that I switch it off to recharge it through the whole night. Led indicator was orange. In the morning there was no greed led indicator. Computer was still working correctly. I was trying to switch the Wizard on but I can't!! It can't be switch on?? Why?
I have tried several different methods to switch it on. I also checked the usb cable and it is working..
Do you have any suggestions what happened? What is wrong with Wizard??
Daniel
I think you have an empty battery now. I don't know how it happened, but you can't charge an empty battery through USB. Try using the wall-charger. When it doesn't turn on immediately try again in a few hours (keep the charger attached).
me too! using the molski rom..
My wizard is now dead. cannot flash/recharge or boot.
I tried the usb lead 'jumpstart' trick and leaving it plugged in overnight.
the battery seems fine (with a voltmeter)
any ideas?
No RGB screen?
yup, nothing. nada.
my current theory is that the battery completely discharged, now it won't turn on and charge. I tried the 'usb' hotwire trick, and saw a glint of hope(screen came on for a brief moment), but it still won't power on. I've ordered a battery and desktop charger and i'll see if that works.
is it possible that the molski rom somehow disabled the auto-off at low battery feature. That would explain things. the wizard is supposed to refuse to turn on before it hits 0%.
recharge the battery on other wizard
let your wizard in Bootloader mode:
[Camera] + [Soft reset]
plug usb then start the original update
it work in sha'a allah
declared dead. tried a new fully charged battery, plus the old battery charged in a desktop charger. doesn't boot or enter bootloader and cannot be hardreset.
the only glimmer of life is that the backlight and power light flicker when the battery is _removed_, but only if you press the power button before removal.
strange considering it was working fine. i guess it's a brick.
wanna sell me your brick for $10?
i will buy your brick for $15
shogunmark said:
i will buy your brick for $15
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okay i'll give you $20 for ur brick.
hiimcliff said:
okay i'll give you $20 for ur brick.
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How can you be so cruel? the guy just lost his friend!!!
I will buy your brick for 30$
unfortunately it's a brick full of my personal information!
alexjlee said:
unfortunately it's a brick full of my personal information!
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its cool. if its a brick you won't have to worry. the parts are still good though. pm me if you wish to sell.
dead wizard
About 3 weeks ago my wizard did exactly the same, tried new batteries, different chargers etc. Nothing. Best I got was as described above was the occaisional flash of the screen.
Fortunately for me the wizard was about 14 months old and I thought was out of warranty. T-mobile (UK) were helpful enough but wouldn't take the phone but gave me the contact for HTC Europe as the phone has a 2 year warranty (in the UK). Took a little effort to get through to them but they repaired phone (replaced mainboard) and returned. Yippee for me! All I can suggest is that you see if HTC have a local office to you and speak to them.
Note - I didn't have any homecooked ROM! Just the usual updates.
Mine died (slipped into a coma?) on Friday, couldn't force it to startup using any of the standard methods - took it into the O2 shop, and they took it in the back, and made it restart. I think they tried a bunch of different chargers, but they weren't at all surprised to deal with it, and i got the impression it's not an unusual task.
Having not use my exec for a bout a month I now find it will not start or take a charge (battery has 3.8v ) but it will not power up ,it is still in warranty BUT I have changed the rom ,so don’t know if o2 will repair it
If I use the wall charger a LED flashes on for about 1 second ,if I plug in to usb lead on pc (with battery removed) red led comes on any ideas appreciated
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Having not use my exec for a bout a month I now find it will not start or take a charge (battery has 3.8v ) but it will not power up ,it is still in warranty BUT I have changed the rom ,so don’t know if o2 will repair it
If I use the wall charger a LED flashes on for about 1 second ,if I plug in to usb lead on pc (with battery removed) red led comes on any ideas appreciated
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Problem indeed.... Firstly, I wish I could offer some constructive solutions, but afraid not.... it does sound like a worn battery, and maybe worth trying (or borrowing) another one to flash?
I take it as you refer to it as an 'Exec' that it is the O2 branded one? If it is, from my experience with the O2 technical support, they really don't have a clue. I would assume that they would send an exec straight to HTC for testing. It's a complete last resort, but if you were to tell them that your unit was dead and they were to take it in, they wouldn't be able to solve the problem before they sent it back to HTC. This is of course after you have clarified it's not just a dead battery cell.
Best of luck with the thread and hoping someone a bit more experienced can help.
So, let me get this straight, your universal does not turn on (and by turn on I mean that you see the familiar wm5 screen with your apps, etc.), no matter what have you done, and the only way to have the charging led on is by connecting it to USB port with the battery removed?
If this is the case, you might have a dead internal battery charging/power supply circuit, i have repaired some old Ipaqs with this failure, most of them failed due to a defective battery, easily recognized by overheating when the unit was placed in charge, usually the overheating increased slowly in time (months usually).
I don't want to be misunderstood, but all these devices have a way of turning of the LCD backlight, a long pressure on the on button does this, it can restores with the same long pressure, see if this is not your case.
If you have some electrical problem with your PDA you might take it to repair or you could try to do it yourself -if you're able to do it obviously-.
Anyway, try to get yourself another battery (you might ask for it to someone else with a uni), put it on and see.
I'm also assuming that you have tried to hard reset your device.
good luck
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So, let me get this straight, your universal does not turn on (and by turn on I mean that you see the familiar wm5 screen with your apps, etc.), no matter what have you done, and the only way to have the charging led on is by connecting it to USB port with the battery remo....
good luck
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Look maybe this will give you some hope. Yesterday I took my Htc Typhon (smartphone) after a long time, the battery was die. I tried to charge via usb, and nothings happened, then I tried to use a usb charger and nothing happened neither. Finally I charged the battery alone on an universal battery charger and after 30 minutes my phone was alive again.
Hope it will help you!
Felipe
kecido said:
So, let me get this straight, your universal does not turn on (and by turn on I mean that you see the familiar wm5 screen with your apps, etc.), no matter what have you done, and the only way to have the charging led on is by connecting it to USB port with the battery removed?
If this is the case, you might have a dead internal battery charging/power supply circuit, i have repaired some old Ipaqs with this failure, most of them failed due to a defective battery, easily recognized by overheating when the unit was placed in charge, usually the overheating increased slowly in time (months usually).
I don't want to be misunderstood, but all these devices have a way of turning of the LCD backlight, a long pressure on the on button does this, it can restores with the same long pressure, see if this is not your case.
If you have some electrical problem with your PDA you might take it to repair or you could try to do it yourself -if you're able to do it obviously-.
Anyway, try to get yourself another battery (you might ask for it to someone else with a uni), put it on and see.
I'm also assuming that you have tried to hard reset your device.
good luck
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thanks for all the help
1 it will not turn or power ,no led no screen
2 battery dose get hot when charging
3 screen has not been dimmed
its back at o2 shop now we will see if they repair it and ill report back !!!!!!!!!
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Look maybe this will give you some hope. Yesterday I took my Htc Typhon (smartphone) after a long time, the battery was die. I tried to charge via usb, and nothings happened, then I tried to use a usb charger and nothing happened neither. Finally I charged the battery alone on an universal battery charger and after 30 minutes my phone was alive again.
Hope it will help you!
Felipe
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hi thanks for the reply i have had the same on a m600 ,would not charge from usb or car kit but did start with mains charger
i have tryed hard reset but it will not do that either
battery is stuck at 3.7v even after trying to discharge it with a small bulb
thanks
John...
This is something I've had happen in the past.
Try taking the battery out, and put it into a ziplock back, and place it in the freezer for a few hours. I know, I know, it sounds ridiculous. But sometimes, just sometimes, it will reactivate the cells, and you'll be able to charge it after that.
well done o2 uk
well as said before took my phone back to the O2 shop and sent it off to the service centre. The report came back that the main board US .not only did i get a new exec but But a new boxed one and a full set of all original parts !!
i had this problem when i first got my SPV m5000..i took it to the orange shop...(the people where nice) they kept it for few testing and said...
battary was faulty...so they gave me a new battery XD
Hello
I have a problem with my HD. For some reason i don't know i cannot charge it while the phone its still on.The only way i can charge it its when i switch it off.i tried changing the rom to wm 6.5 and 6.1 again but nothing.
if someone knows please help me.
thank you
I have the same problem. very weird.
Have you tried to reset the phone (shut down and power up again) while it's still plugged to the loader?
That helped with my old phone but i'm not sure if it helps in this case.
greetz
playdo
Is that using the charger or from the PC?
If it's the latter, ensure that Settings/System/Power option "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC" is deselected.
You are a lifesaver!
This shoould REALLY be a F.A.Q.
I would also like a word with whoever came up with the function. When would you ever want your NOT to charge your mobile?
/Lars
laertes said:
I would also like a word with whoever came up with the function. When would you ever want your NOT to charge your mobile?
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I suppose if your testing a roms battery strength you may not want this function.
Still no charging
I too am having problem with no charing. I have had this problem twice now.
First time (as phone is not under warranty in Australia) I took it to local repair who said they couldn't fix it... long story short it went back to china, came back fixed... or so I thought.
It did the exact same thing, battery died in few hours, then when on charge it would sometimes show steady orange LED on power button for 5-10 seconds then go off and never charge, or two it would blink orange and green for some time and not charge. Now it wont turn on and is only showing orange light for 5-10 seconds.
Also, I read around and found that there is different miniUSB cables, some don't charge and some do, would like the great knowledge of this forum to fill me in on this rumor.
Really weird
It is really weird. I had the same problem. If I put the phone on charge either with charger or with USB cable on PC the charge light blink on orange and green and the phone not charge the battery.And this happens for 2 days. I went on another computer I plug the phone in the USB and curiously it begin to charge (orange light) and fully charged the battery. It also charge on mains. It is really weird I am still investigating this.....
dadustar said:
... If I put the phone on charge either with charger or with USB cable on PC the charge light blink on orange and green and the phone not charge the battery......
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I have the same problem. I managed to charge it to 40% after i removed the battery for few hours.
I've booked a repair service and now i'm waiting for their answer.
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Hello
I have a problem with my HD. For some reason i don't know i cannot charge it while the phone its still on.The only way i can charge it its when i switch it off.i tried changing the rom to wm 6.5 and 6.1 again but nothing.
if someone knows please help me.
thank you
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Hi I am experiencing the same problem now, very annoying. Please could somebody help, thanks in advance!
Motherboard Problem
I just got my Touch HD motherboard changed under warranty for the same problem.
Same problem..
I have Touch HD with the same problem, sometimes 1 of 50 phone has full charge, but I can't using my phone everyday.. It is possible to do something with software to cheat device about battery condition? new battery not helping..
AussieMatt said:
I too am having problem with no charing. I have had this problem twice now.
First time (as phone is not under warranty in Australia) I took it to local repair who said they couldn't fix it... long story short it went back to china, came back fixed... or so I thought.
It did the exact same thing, battery died in few hours, then when on charge it would sometimes show steady orange LED on power button for 5-10 seconds then go off and never charge, or two it would blink orange and green for some time and not charge. Now it wont turn on and is only showing orange light for 5-10 seconds.
Also, I read around and found that there is different miniUSB cables, some don't charge and some do, would like the great knowledge of this forum to fill me in on this rumor.
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Hello, I have the same problem, I tried different usb cables and diferente chargers, I olso tried to charge with the PC and nothing. I starts by showing a orange light them goes to a blinking orange and green, and don't charge.
I found this page http://www.htcrepairparts.com but I don't know what is the problem of the phone, só I don't know what part I have to buy.
If is the motherboard I think that is too expensive and is better to buy a new phone.
Please help me.
I bought a charger from a web site for my Htc HD2 and I can olso charge the battery of my Htc Touch HD, now I can sync with pc but it still won't charge.
Mybe it's a problem with the rom.
The OS is 5.2.29022 (29022.5.3.12)
The Manila is 2.5.20212114.0
The rom is 04.jul.2011 wwe
The rom date 11/20/09
The radio is 1.13.25.24
The protocol is 52.62.25.34u
Some times shows an error saying that is missing a file.
If some one have an answare please tell me.
At this moment the only problem is that I have to remove the battery of the phone to charge it up.
The battery and the phone are OK, but won't charge.
then charger problem. You probably cant charge a HD with a HD2 charger...
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then charger problem. You probably cant charge a HD with a HD2 charger...
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It's not a charger problem, because on de pc won't charge either.
And yes we can charge the hd with the hd2 charger and the oposit way too.
The only diferent thing is the cable, the charger is the same.
I thing that is a problem of the rom.
The error is showed when I power on the phone, and it's .net compact framework error.
I changed the wm 6.1 to a wm6.5 cookey rom.
The BsB tweeks olso reports an error, missing files.
Should I change the rom?
look, if you cant charge, you rather find a solution quick, or you kill the battery and then need to buy a new one to use the phone. but did you try another cable? keep changing ROMs till one works...
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look, if you cant charge, you rather find a solution quick, or you kill the battery and then need to buy a new one to use the phone. but did you try another cable? keep changing ROMs till one works...
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I think you didn't read my posts or you didn't understand it, because I said that I bought a new charger for the HTC HD2, it's a universal charger and I have to take the battery of the phone to charge it.
I maneged to charge the batery of the HTC Touch HD with the same charger, the only problem is that I must take the battery of the phone to charge it.
The problem with the HTC touch HD is that when I put it to charge plugged to the pc or to the electrical supply he won't charge, the led starts orange and then goes to a blinking orange and green, and don't charge.
Now do you think it could be a rom problem?
oh sorry for that, my fault but how do you charge the battery without the phone, do you have a dock or anything? Cause Im not really understanding...
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oh sorry for that, my fault but how do you charge the battery without the phone, do you have a dock or anything? Cause Im not really understanding...
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I have a docking station for HTC HD2, now I bought a new charger, this is the web site of the charger http://www.yiboyuan.net/products.aspx
And this are the images of the charger with the two baterrys.