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60 Day old Orange M3100 DEAD

I bought my Orange M3100 about 60 days ago and it has been working well until today. Last night I plugged it in to get charged and this morning I noticed that my alarm didn't go off. When I looked at the phone I saw that the charge light on the phone was red; I had never seen it red befor. When I tried to turn on the phone....Nothing, I tried to do a soft reset, hard reset, remove the battery and the sim card put them all back in....still nothing.
I tried hooking it up to the computer, car charger, wall charger and still nothing. The only time i get anything is when i plug it into power and even then the only thing i get is a red LED light at the top of the phone.
Does anybody have any ideas as to how to fix it??
I really appreciate any help as I paid $575 for this phone 2 months ago.
Thanks,
David

bigtal said:
I bought my Orange M3100 about 60 days ago and it has been working well until today. Last night I plugged it in to get charged and this morning I noticed that my alarm didn't go off. When I looked at the phone I saw that the charge light on the phone was red; I had never seen it red befor. When I tried to turn on the phone....Nothing, I tried to do a soft reset, hard reset, remove the battery and the sim card put them all back in....still nothing.
I tried hooking it up to the computer, car charger, wall charger and still nothing. The only time i get anything is when i plug it into power and even then the only thing i get is a red LED light at the top of the phone.
Does anybody have any ideas as to how to fix it??
I really appreciate any help as I paid $575 for this phone 2 months ago.
Thanks,
David
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There have been other instances of this problem. I had it once and it eventually came back after lots of fiddling. The last thing I did was to leave the battery out for half an hour - whether it was this that corrected fault I don't know. The issue ssems to be around the battery or circuit that monitors battery. I've not heard a definitive solution other that time!!
Edit: Also not unique to Hermes - seen this on several other phones PDA or otherwise.
Mike

Thanks for responding. I will try that now and let you know if it worked.
**Keeping my fingures crossed**

This happened to a wizard. really frustrating. I just had to exchange. But my m3100 ha sissues charging. sometimes when I plug it in it will behave like it is not plugged in. I fiddle with the plug and wiggle it and nothihng. let it sit and then on comes the charge light...but then some times it goes out. really wonky and scary cause I too paide 650 for my hermes and can't ecahnge it with my provider

Well I waited only 30 min and that didn't work...I will try 2 hours and hope it fixes the problem....

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Well I waited only 30 min and that didn't work...I will try 2 hours and hope it fixes the problem....
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Darn!!
Curiously had this exact issue with a cheap office mobile a few weeks ago. Nothing would work. As it was chaep I took it apart- nothing loose or such like, put it back together and worked straight off. Not that I'm suggesting you try that!
I still think it will come good but what a frustrating wait. One post I saw was from someone whose TyTN never charged from the day he got it. How's your warranty/guarantee situation?
Mike

Well I am in the US and I bought it from a guy in the UK. I have sent him an email but didn't get a response. I am not sure if Orange in the UK will honor the warranty. As I said it is only 60 days old.
It is very weird. I think I will go to my local Cingular store and try a new battery, maybe that will help. I would rather it be a battery issue than something with the phone itself.

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Well I am in the US and I bought it from a guy in the UK. I have sent him an email but didn't get a response. I am not sure if Orange in the UK will honor the warranty. As I said it is only 60 days old.
It is very weird. I think I will go to my local Cingular store and try a new battery, maybe that will help. I would rather it be a battery issue than something with the phone itself.
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Sounds like a good idea. (guy in the UK - not a scotsman I hope!!)
Check this link. I know he's talking about car charger but the bit about having charger plugged in whilst soft re-setting might be interesting. Second last post page one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277742&highlight=reset
EDIT Just tried having mine plugged into charger and removed battery. Light instantly goes red. Suggests your problem most likely battery and not device. Might be worth trying also taking battery in and out whilst connected to charger.
Mike

Mike - Thank you for your help in this issue and the suggestions....looks like we are getting closer to a solution.
I don't have my wall charger here at work but i connected it to the PC USB cable while the battery was OUT, then I poped the battery in and the red light changed to Amber to indicate it is charging. The phone powered up after a soft reset. The battery shows 0% charge even though it was plugged in all of last night. It now seems to be charging, I will wait to see if the battery holds the charge or not.
Now I don't know if the problem is with the battery, charger, or phone
I guess I will be able to narrow it down in a few hours and see if the battery holds a charge.

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Mike - Thank you for your help in this issue and the suggestions....looks like we are getting closer to a solution.
I don't have my wall charger here at work but i connected it to the PC USB cable while the battery was OUT, then I poped the battery in and the red light changed to Amber to indicate it is charging. The phone powered up after a soft reset. The battery shows 0% charge even though it was plugged in all of last night. It now seems to be charging, I will wait to see if the battery holds the charge or not.
Now I don't know if the problem is with the battery, charger, or phone
I guess I will be able to narrow it down in a few hours and see if the battery holds a charge.
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Brilliant!!!
Sounds good. so the secret here maybe, taking battery out and in whilst connected to charger or usb?
I'm confident it will hold charge and things will be fine as mine is.
Like I said earlier it takes time and in the end it works fine again, BUT what precisely caused it to work again so we can help others? Because like me you've tried quite a few things.
Mike

I just hope that this will not be a regular issue.
What finally worked was:
1) Remove battery
2) Connect phone to charger or USB (USB in my case)
3) Insert the battery while phone is connected to charger
4) Red light should turn Amber
5) Soft Reset
In the 20 minutes or so that it has been charging the battery went from 0% to 10%

bigtal said:
I just hope that this will not be a regular issue.
What finally worked was:
1) Remove battery
2) Connect phone to charger or USB (USB in my case)
3) Insert the battery while phone is connected to charger
4) Red light should turn Amber
5) Soft Reset
In the 20 minutes or so that it has been charging the battery went from 0% to 10%
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That sounds positive. Well if my experience is anything to go by I've only had it once in 4-5 months.
With your permission I think this may be worth a spot on the Wiki. I'd be happy to use your points above and also Cieplowski's points which appear similar but have a couple of other observations, and put these up as potential answers to this not uncommon issue.
I would not do this until over the weekend just to see how you get on, though I have every confidence.
Mike

I think putting it on the wiki would be an excellent idea.
Right now it is at 70% charge so things are looking good....
I will post back on Monday and let you know how the weekend went
Thanks again,
Dave

very dead exec

Having not use my exec for a bout a month I now find it will not start or take a charge (battery has 3.8v ) but it will not power up ,it is still in warranty BUT I have changed the rom ,so don’t know if o2 will repair it
If I use the wall charger a LED flashes on for about 1 second ,if I plug in to usb lead on pc (with battery removed) red led comes on any ideas appreciated

towinguk said:
Having not use my exec for a bout a month I now find it will not start or take a charge (battery has 3.8v ) but it will not power up ,it is still in warranty BUT I have changed the rom ,so don’t know if o2 will repair it
If I use the wall charger a LED flashes on for about 1 second ,if I plug in to usb lead on pc (with battery removed) red led comes on any ideas appreciated
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Problem indeed.... Firstly, I wish I could offer some constructive solutions, but afraid not.... it does sound like a worn battery, and maybe worth trying (or borrowing) another one to flash?
I take it as you refer to it as an 'Exec' that it is the O2 branded one? If it is, from my experience with the O2 technical support, they really don't have a clue. I would assume that they would send an exec straight to HTC for testing. It's a complete last resort, but if you were to tell them that your unit was dead and they were to take it in, they wouldn't be able to solve the problem before they sent it back to HTC. This is of course after you have clarified it's not just a dead battery cell.
Best of luck with the thread and hoping someone a bit more experienced can help.

So, let me get this straight, your universal does not turn on (and by turn on I mean that you see the familiar wm5 screen with your apps, etc.), no matter what have you done, and the only way to have the charging led on is by connecting it to USB port with the battery removed?
If this is the case, you might have a dead internal battery charging/power supply circuit, i have repaired some old Ipaqs with this failure, most of them failed due to a defective battery, easily recognized by overheating when the unit was placed in charge, usually the overheating increased slowly in time (months usually).
I don't want to be misunderstood, but all these devices have a way of turning of the LCD backlight, a long pressure on the on button does this, it can restores with the same long pressure, see if this is not your case.
If you have some electrical problem with your PDA you might take it to repair or you could try to do it yourself -if you're able to do it obviously-.
Anyway, try to get yourself another battery (you might ask for it to someone else with a uni), put it on and see.
I'm also assuming that you have tried to hard reset your device.
good luck

kecido said:
So, let me get this straight, your universal does not turn on (and by turn on I mean that you see the familiar wm5 screen with your apps, etc.), no matter what have you done, and the only way to have the charging led on is by connecting it to USB port with the battery remo....
good luck
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Look maybe this will give you some hope. Yesterday I took my Htc Typhon (smartphone) after a long time, the battery was die. I tried to charge via usb, and nothings happened, then I tried to use a usb charger and nothing happened neither. Finally I charged the battery alone on an universal battery charger and after 30 minutes my phone was alive again.
Hope it will help you!
Felipe

kecido said:
So, let me get this straight, your universal does not turn on (and by turn on I mean that you see the familiar wm5 screen with your apps, etc.), no matter what have you done, and the only way to have the charging led on is by connecting it to USB port with the battery removed?
If this is the case, you might have a dead internal battery charging/power supply circuit, i have repaired some old Ipaqs with this failure, most of them failed due to a defective battery, easily recognized by overheating when the unit was placed in charge, usually the overheating increased slowly in time (months usually).
I don't want to be misunderstood, but all these devices have a way of turning of the LCD backlight, a long pressure on the on button does this, it can restores with the same long pressure, see if this is not your case.
If you have some electrical problem with your PDA you might take it to repair or you could try to do it yourself -if you're able to do it obviously-.
Anyway, try to get yourself another battery (you might ask for it to someone else with a uni), put it on and see.
I'm also assuming that you have tried to hard reset your device.
good luck
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thanks for all the help
1 it will not turn or power ,no led no screen
2 battery dose get hot when charging
3 screen has not been dimmed
its back at o2 shop now we will see if they repair it and ill report back !!!!!!!!!

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Look maybe this will give you some hope. Yesterday I took my Htc Typhon (smartphone) after a long time, the battery was die. I tried to charge via usb, and nothings happened, then I tried to use a usb charger and nothing happened neither. Finally I charged the battery alone on an universal battery charger and after 30 minutes my phone was alive again.
Hope it will help you!
Felipe
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hi thanks for the reply i have had the same on a m600 ,would not charge from usb or car kit but did start with mains charger
i have tryed hard reset but it will not do that either
battery is stuck at 3.7v even after trying to discharge it with a small bulb
thanks
John...

This is something I've had happen in the past.
Try taking the battery out, and put it into a ziplock back, and place it in the freezer for a few hours. I know, I know, it sounds ridiculous. But sometimes, just sometimes, it will reactivate the cells, and you'll be able to charge it after that.

well done o2 uk
well as said before took my phone back to the O2 shop and sent it off to the service centre. The report came back that the main board US .not only did i get a new exec but But a new boxed one and a full set of all original parts !!

i had this problem when i first got my SPV m5000..i took it to the orange shop...(the people where nice) they kept it for few testing and said...
battary was faulty...so they gave me a new battery XD

Athena dead or dying........any miracle workers out there?

Background:
I have had MANY PPC's (so many I can't even count them) and I've loaded many different cooked ROMS and such on most of them so I'm not a complete noob on these things (don't claim to be an expert either).
However, my most recent acquisition is an HTC Advantage bought at CompUSA. I've read most of these came with a test ROM and mine was no different except for the fact that when I attempted to update the ROM to the "official" one provided to me by HTC it would not work. I always got the error "Connection lost" about half way through the process. I tried it numerous times and it never worked. On some occasions it would get stuck on the bootloader screen but I was able to get it back to working status (still on the test ROM).
I decided to try installing step 1 of Ollipro's SPL to see if that would help loading the HTC ROM. Turns out that wouldn't work either. It would get stuck at step 1 where it would ask if "PPC gone idle and didn't work or to wait 30 seconds". Tried it many times and would try to get it to keep going but the grey box on the bottom left would say the "parameters were incorrect" and would give me the option to quit, which I would. No problem, at least my 7501 was still working.
After that I tried the official HTC ROM again and I got the same "connection lost" error I had previously, except this time I didn't get anything on my PPC screen, just a black screen, not even the battery charging light behind the joystick lights up anymore. Soft reset...........nothing. Bootloader reset....................nothing. Hard reset.......................nothing. No lights, nada. The only flicker I get is if I try a reset wheen the power cord is connected. A red light flickers behind the joystick whenever I click the reset button. Any ideas or any help?

Sounds to me like the battery is just dead. I bought one at CompUSA (had the test ROM also) and I got the red ring around the joystick too when I tried to turn it on in the store. I left it plugged in awhile and it finally booted up okay. I then replaced the test ROM with the one and only available for the X7501 on HTC USA's web site. Good luck and I hope you get it working!

I think it could be battery related as well but it had a full charge when this happened. For some reason the unit has lost communication with the battery. I'm at a loss.

I got the same problem like you man !!! but i bad luck and so stupid man , i did with HTC X7501 then it dead after that i bought the X7500 then did it again , holy "... " it dead again....man ...So how your phone now bro ????

I left out the battery a half day and tried it again but still dead. Then I left it charging overnight and tried it again but still dead.
I can't believe this. I've never had a bricked device that can't be revived but after so many have seen this post and still no solutions I'm guessing it's no hope.

I met the same situation when I started to unlock Athena ( TMobile Ameo) within not fully charged battery ( less then 70%).
Solution ( try to make BL mode) with connected wallsocket charger ( not connected to PC USB slot) or find 100% charged battery. It helped me two times.
After many tries it changed to BL mode .
Now I didn't start unlock/change ROM without 100% charged battery.

I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please

Lobstrick said:
I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please
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"heating battery" (i.e. discharging when inserted, you mean?), no charge led = dead bootloader indeed.

I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?

Hearing these stories makes me nervous. I'm on the stock ROM (mine came from CompUSA with the latest ROM and I don't have an urge to try the cooked ROM yet). I've been using my Athena daily for 4 months, it charges correctly from several different chargers I have (car, computer USB, stock wall charger, aftermarket wall charger).
However, one day 2 weeks ago I went to make a call in the middle of the day and my Athena was dead. D-e-a-d. Usually I can make it back home at night and still have 90-100% on the battery meter, so with no use in the middle of the day and a dead battery, this was weird. It wouldn't turn on, no soft boot, took the battery out and put it back in, and always got nothing.
I bring this up here because when I plugged it in, I encountered similar problems that others here are describing. It wouldn't turn on, and it didn't give me the orange charging light behind the joystick. I ended up leaving it plugged in for a while and finally I got a red ring, not the usual orange. I've only seen red when the battery was almost dead and the unit was on. Then after some more time the ring turned orange and at this point it would turn on again. I still have no idea why my battery died so fast and hard.
So, is there a problem with the battery charging system that is starting to crop up in units that have been used a while???

miha_conan said:
I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?
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Hi i am no expert but i had simaler problem no display or no lights round ring no responce to any commands (ie hard reset and bootloader ) only red light flickred on reset button all i did was removed battery while pressing reset button and placed new battery and left it on wall charger for couple of hours and before doing hard reset i pressed reset button 2 to 3 times and green light round the battery came up so i tryed bootloader and it worked and insted of flashing it with pc i just loaded the img in sd card and flashed it while whole thing was on charge (i had tmob test rom before ) which i think is best way to do no hassle of losing connection or failing in half way and it works like a charm
hope this helps
and ya if you have a spare battery it dose help

New battery?
I'm a wizard user (and lots of former PDAs) looking to buy and Athena, maybe.
Has anyone tried a new, right out of the envelope, battery? these issues sound like worn out Li-Ion batteries to me. I've had them completely conk (won't take a charge at all) if I let them go completely down, and I've had them wear out and stop taking a full charge (down to maxing out at about %20, but sometimes showing %100 depending on ROM status) when I kept charging them while they're already charged.
Li-Ion batts don't sit for long periods too well, either, so if they're sitting on the shelf at the store/warehouse, they may be suffering even more than one that has been used since earlier in its childhood.
Perhaps the answer is a switched charger that stops charging when the battery (not the ROM/unit reading) gets to %100. ???
I didn't see anything like this posted. I'm terribly curious to see if anyone can resolve it.

nother AMEO dead
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1859021#post1859021

Red ring comes for a sec only try to RESET the device with Charger connected
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same here,
i am afraid i got a dead athena too, did you guys found any solution?? i tried switching batteries. this is my first experience with a windows mobile device not powering on, in inrepairable condition.
found another member with similar problems- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1639311&postcount=24

No genius,s on here,just insults
i have read every page on the advantage x7500,being such an old phone you would thin the genius,s on here could sort it out in seconds,but all they do is insult you.i tried to update from windows 6 on radio 1.20 to michys radio 6.5
it got to 94 percent then crashed, now when i boot up i just get a black and white screen,which then turns white,if it try to reinstall advantage 6.0 the phone reets after 2 or 3 percent..will anyboby help by giving simple term advice to unbrick it? NO.will they provide links to there advice no.THEY JUST INSULT YOU AND SAY ITS IN ONE OF THE THREADS.well im a computer tech and if anybody wants there pc or laptop fixing.guess what i will return the favour with computer speak,THAT YOU CANT UNDERSTAND

X10a wont turn on !

MY phone died the other night and wouldn't charge. It blinks red when plugged in and will blink numerous times when you press power. Sometime when its plugged in and i press power it will only blink red once.
Its rooted with 024. Im screwed eh?
Also im with Rogers in Canada

I vaguely remember having this sort of problem before.
What was happening was the cable wasn't working properly for some reason, and my phone wasn't drawing enough power to charge. Therefore it not working, and the red flashing light. It wasn't actually charging.
Is it plugged in to charge via AC or USB? It might not be drawing enough power if it is charging through USB.
If it is charging though AC, have you left it to charge overnight? If a Li-ion battery enters a state of deep discharge, it may take a while for it to charge enough for the phone to be able to power on. This shouldn't be the case though, the battery should have failsafes to prevent this from happening.
If neither of these things do anything, I'd try either swapping the wall adaptor and/or the usb cable or the phone battery itself, and if those things work, you're out of luck.
Hope that helps.

Have tried two wall chargers different outlet and my two pcs. left it overnight twice. Im screwed lol

tyler24_11 said:
Have tried two wall chargers different outlet and my two pcs. left it overnight twice. Im screwed lol
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Tell Rogers that one of their Sales Reps burnt the phone while trying to show you how to charge it

Im going to take it back to walmart it is only 3 week old

I had the same issue with mine... it completely died out and would not start charging. Found it weird the phone couldn't be charged while being powered off (my old KRZR could do it)....
Anyway, I called up Rogers and told them the situation and they exchanged it with a new one. I don't let the phone go below 5% now in fear of it not being able to charge if it the battery is completely drained XD

was your phone rooted?

No... it was on the original firmware and all...
For some reason I forgot you rooted it when you replied. Rogers might not want to exchange it... Wal-Mart on the other hand will probably not even look at it and just exchange it.
Other option could be to buy a new battery?

it actually looks as if the usb port itself is chipped.

ok, i had the same problem with my old SE phones.
everytime i tried to charge it, it did not charge. other phones were charging thru same cable.
the problem in the OS.
what i did is upgraded thru SEUS.
try to plug it to PC thru USB cable without battery. then go thru procedure as u would go for upgrade and then put the battery back.
it might not work if your battery complitely dead, thought worth a try

Yea, cant connect to seus

your batter yshould be fine. it's just dead.
dont buy any battery just yet. i would replace the phone if i were u. without spending extra bucks.
this is the quickets solution i can think of.
however, for the future reference i will buy me extra battery just in case
good luck

Just had it turn on and it said less than 2% remaining connect to charger. It was connected. This happened before and it just shuts off.

yeah mine would open from time to time but instantly shut down also. Seems like it didn't have enough time to detect it was plugged in...
try returning it

This may sound weird but it worked for me. Try taking out the memory card and leave it out and plugging it in.

Yea. I tried every combination. Brought it to walmart qndvthey gave me a new one. 30 day replacment woo. Im nervous to root now
Sent from my X10a using XDA App

same problem... no solution ?

Hi, I'm new to the forum and I found this topic is describing the same problem I have. I bought an x10 mini pro (U20a) unlocked and it doesnt turn on with my service provider SIM, but if I try another service provider SIM card or without SIM card, it turns on normally. It's the same behavior, cause it wont charge either. Other users are reporting the same problem in SE support forums and it is related to X10, X10 mini and X10 mini pro. It seems to be related to software since a factory reset or a repair using PC Companion solves the problem partially, but for some users the problem starts again when their batteries dries out and want to charge their phones. In case anyone find a solution that really works, please post it here.
Sent from my Motorola Milestone using XDA App

I'm disappointed because I have the exact same problem, but I'm outside of AT&T's 30-day return period (and they're being typical idiots about the issue). They have no replacement batteries (of course) so I've had to request one directly from SonyEricsson, which will take 5 business days to deliver. (!) Hopefully, this will resolve the issue; however, before you returned your phone to Walmart, I noticed that you thought you had a problem with a chipped mini-USB port. Do you know if that was part of the problem?

[Q] No sign of life at all

I have HD2, had an android installed, everything was working perfectly until I've bought a cheap chinese recharger, at first android started to lag, tried to restart the phone and it cound't get past HTC logo after MALGR screen, I couldn't even get into multicolor screen to do a hard reset, simply VOL DOWN and POWER buttons didn't do nothing(in MALGR vol DOWN AND UP were working perfectly) and now it doesn't even boot at all...have no sign of life.
Does it mean my phone is bricked or maybe there is a chance it's a battery.

I'd start all over, HardSPL, rooting, reflashing, EVERYTHING (Maybe Task29? Never tried it before but its supposed to help) - I'm not a dev myself, but thats the first thing i would try to do - sorry I cant tell you what exactly is going wrong - maybe start by charging via USB afterwards

Could be a duff charger. Do you have a usb lead? You could try charging of the PC to see if you can get some line in it!

is the charger just a mains battery charger or usb ?,
only ask as i had to get just a battery charger from ebay as my usb on my phone has broke so i couldnt charge it via usb lead, so i bought 2 mains battery chargers and 2 extra batterys ,
it sounds like its just a dead battery, buy a new one from ebay as they are cheap enough, and hopefully that should work .

First thanxx for responding, guys!
I was "bending" and "torturing" the phone and the battery for a whole day and a half night, and realized that all I have is a bad luck - literally.
But at least it's not bricked, but it's pretty normal, because I did nothing to trigger that.
It's definitely a battery that was completely dead, so I just cut some old charger and charged it with my fingers holding wires against that little metal rectangles..
but that wasn't the end of my troubles..
now the pc just doesn't recognize the phone most of the times in the HSPL bootloader(sometimes it does, but still it won't flash or do anything), I have this active sync installed..
later I'll try at my friends place..
It's almost two years I have my HD2, so probably its life sources are just finished, but I won't give up until I'll try everything..
I'll let you know the results

Finally after a lot of efforts it's reanimated!
Gotta drink some bourbon for that! Cheers everyone!

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Finally after a lot of efforts it's reanimated!
Gotta drink some bourbon for that! Cheers everyone!
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