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WM5

I tried Magneto on my Himalaya,but I had lot of problems(see 'Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking'). Is it there same problems also for Typhoon? Meaned the biggest problems such as unability to connect via ActiveSync,unability to accept many applications from 2003SE,etc. Someony who has it already tried,please write here your opinions and experiences. Thanx.

On Typhoon, Activesync works perfectly, you can't unlock it, neither for applications, nor to use another sim card, you can't use USSD... Don't load it for the now and wait for the final version.

The Hatred said:
On Typhoon, Activesync works perfectly, you can't unlock it, neither for applications, nor to use another sim card, you can't use USSD... Don't load it for the now and wait for the final version.
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+1 you are right.. it is so early for WM2005. if you load microsoft can test WM 2005 on your phone and you will be cavy...

Will there ever be a stable WM5 for the typhoon?

The Hatred said:
On Typhoon, Activesync works perfectly, you can't unlock it, neither for applications, nor to use another sim card, you can't use USSD... Don't load it for the now and wait for the final version.
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It can be application unlocked very easily with a simple registry change.
I dont see the problems eveyone is having with the typhoon with wm 5, its very stable I dont get any crashes or lockups any more. Tom tom 5 even works relaibly. The only downfall is the camera, which im sure there will be a fix.

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I am still interesting about the applications. WM5 needs applications designed especially for this OS or accepts also the apps,which are running also on WM2003(se)? My Himalaya,while running on Magneto,wants not accept lot of the software that I am using with WM2003se normally...

I've been running WM5 on Typhoon for 1 week.
It's awesome. (totally happy, no issues with anything)
The WM5 GUI look & feel is much better for everythying
It seems faster
I really enjoy having photo/ring-tone based contacts built in.
radio seems to aquire quicker
Active Sync over GPRS and IMAP mail is MUCH faster!
I also recommend Pocket Controller Professional. You can control any pocket pc or smartphone from your computer! (and sync files, etc etc) It comes with “skins” so it looks like your whole phone is up on the screen. (very nice to "type" in stuff now and then too) Works great on the Typhoon with WM5 so far.
The Tornado should be interesting in Oct. (similar size + WiFi + EDGE)

s4czech or anyone else, could you please indicate me a link where to find a complete explanation on how to upgrade to WM5?
I already downloaded the upgrade, but as I donno the procedure all I get is error' messages that this or that is missing... Thanks!

Prerna said:
s4czech or anyone else, could you please indicate me a link where to find a complete explanation on how to upgrade to WM5?
I already downloaded the upgrade, but as I donno the procedure all I get is error' messages that this or that is missing... Thanks!
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Everythng is explained in this thread.
Cheers
hrb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23368
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Software on WM5
TomasNM said:
I am still interesting about the applications. WM5 needs applications designed especially for this OS or accepts also the apps,which are running also on WM2003(se)? My Himalaya,while running on Magneto,wants not accept lot of the software that I am using with WM2003se normally...
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I am using WM 5 on my C500 (Typhoon). It runs very well, stable and fast. I have installed the following Software (tested and running). Except Power Task, they are all WM2K3 Apps
- CityTime Alarms
- Developerone Power Tasks (WM5 Version)
- Fizz Traveller 2
- Fizz Monitor
- TCPMP
- WordPad
- Blackjack
- Facade from SBSH (new)
- Opera for Mobile (new)
- Papyrus from SBSH (new)
- GPRS Traffic Counter (new)
And that's basically all I need
Cheers
Hans

Jasjar/Universal: Too many bugs ??

I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?

Spb pocketplus may not be supported by wm05?.Perhaps the next release will work though as i'm getting either the wizard or universal so I hope it does!

personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
bugs are ok, it makes the patches more anticipated, and of course, with out this kind of feedback sofware houses wouldn't always reveal the issues before software is released.

Tekflow said:
I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
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dude all of these are software (activesync and windows 5 related) none are related to jasjar...the jasjar is the most stable imate device EVER
yes there are issues between the new active sync and windows and firewall and the antivirus that you run but these are Microsofts faults not jasjars...
to answer your questions
1) this is a bummer.. i really wish they had given the option of backing up device..anywyas thats why you have ppc softwares that do backup..the one working on wm5 is sunnysoft backup..
2)most of the softwares lag behind.. wm5 is out but not all software makers have updated their products..NOTE AGAIN THIS IS NOT JASJARS FAULT..its YOURs you can wait 6 more months by then spbsoftware should have a pocketplus that works on wm5
3)dude again old applications like sktools dont work on wm5... if you want you can use pocket mechanic and memmaid ..they work fine.. for task manager i use dinarsoft handy sweitcher..not only its an excellent application but it works on wm5 aswelll...
4)you have your firewall and antivirus software and to blame for this...not jasjar..for me i had to FORMAT my laptop and install activesync before i turned on firewall and installed an antivirus program...only then did active sync work..and its flawless now.. oen word my personal experience trendmicro2002 doesnt work with AS however 2005 version of pcillin works with its personal firewall set to off...
hope i cleared up a few misconceptions for you
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Well,
1) That is annoying. I hadn't noticed that, but I'm sure it'll be addressed in future...
2) As zohaer21 says, that's purely because we have the latest, greatest bleeding edge technology, and the software developers have yet to catch up. (In the meantime, HandySwitcher is working perfectly on my device, no bugs, no crashes, just what it's meant to do!)
3) Have you tried installing anything from a .cab file to see if you still have a problem uninstalling? I'd guess ActiveSync is probably your problem...
4) Can't really help there...I'd suggest removing Activesync completely from your PC and installing it again from scratch. Personally I'm not using the bundled version of ActiveSync (4.1?) because I had an old 4.0.??? already but I don't think I've heard of anyone else with that issue yet so I'd assume it's a problem with your PC installation?

Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?

mat1t said:
Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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True, but MS changed WM5 significantly from WM2003, many more changes than Windows 2000 -> Windows XP. The biggest changes were (1) persistent storage and new memory handling and (2) WM5's compatibility with MS Smartphone apps. I am not surprised a good number of apps aren't working.
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.

Carnivor said:
no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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It does not depend on that gap but on what they did durring that gap. If you do not change structural things, backwards compatibility can last a long time.
Actually the gap between WM2003SE and WM5 is quite large for some software developers. Notably some applications that synchronise databases (TimeTTRacker, Commontime mNotes) have to be rewritten from the ground up, even though we are only talking about a 1 year gap. Microsoft did change some crucial things, even if it does not show at first glance.

sorry, my post came across a bit bolshy. It wasn't intended.
I meant that developers would hope that they wouldn't have to re-write their apps every few years. I like the changes, because it adds more structure and makes it more of a uniform platform, but we've got to hope that they don't change these very often.
It would help if MS supplied the emulators for WM5 free of charge. (I'm yet to find any)

No worries
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for PPC
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F2-F524-4EC5-9155-717CBE5D25ED&displaylang=en
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for Smartphone
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-738A-4B97-8910-5CD29AB5F8D9&displaylang=en

SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.

hey mat1t dont worry about it,
just dont get put deisel in a petrol car, my analogy of the issues

louisk said:
SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
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Correct!
It does work under WM5.0 Just make sure you are on version 3
If you are on Version 3 and still refuses to install, copy the CAB file over the device and execute/install from there.

DaleReeck said:
mat1t said:
Carnivor said:
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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hi
it works but it makes it really slow (inlcuding the start up if you use the quick launch menu whatever)..i guess you can say its not wm5 optimized as yet
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SPB Pocket plus does install and work. I had to do a hard reset after I initially used my Jasjar and everything worked right. Like email accounts etc. What I would like to see is a program like gb tweak that keeps the gprs allways alive. But so for there is nothing out there. NO problems with my JasJar at all.
Mike

@Tekflow
Since you got a Jasjar, plz can you upload for us the Arabizer package from the Extended_Rom ?
Click Here! This is how they managed to copy it!
Thank you.

I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers

Daimaou said:
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
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Pm Sent

Just replied, and if someone can tell me why I cannot UL files on the server it would help me
Cheers

You have to use username:xdaupload password:xda to be able to upload
ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]

TomTom 5.2 Update - Better?

IS there much difference in performance running 5.2 instead of 5.1 on the Universal?
Is there any difference at all?

This new version has the following new features and improvements:
Improved phone functionality for your device.
TomTom NAVIGATOR is now compatible with Microsoft Windows™ MOBILE 5.0 devices.
http://www.tomtom.com/support/category.php?ID=3&Language=1&FID=3361

Don't know if i may post it here. but check this out:
http://rapidshare.de/files/8475711/TomTom_Navigator_update_V.5.21_cracked.rar.html

excellent stuff, been waiting for this, but i cant get it to work, where do i place the cracked exe???

stf06 said:
This new version has the following new features and improvements:
Improved phone functionality for your device.
TomTom NAVIGATOR is now compatible with Microsoft Windows™ MOBILE 5.0 devices.
http://www.tomtom.com/support/category.php?ID=3&Language=1&FID=3361
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Thanks. But TT 5.1 works fine on my EXEC without any problems already. I was wondering if there is an actual difference in experience? Because I dont want to fix what aint broken unless there are new features or a performance improvement, etc...
So has anyone with the 5.2 update installed experienced any significant improvement please??

tyl said:
Thanks. But TT 5.1 works fine on my EXEC without any problems already. I was wondering if there is an actual difference in experience? Because I dont want to fix what aint broken unless there are new features or a performance improvement, etc...
So has anyone with the 5.2 update installed experienced any significant improvement please??
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Just tried the cracked one, and I can't see a difference against 5.1. The screen still draws visibly slowly and the UI is still as limiting and unsophisticated as ever.
I can't see any benefit in upgrading if TT is working already for you.
Looks like TomTom will be waiting a while longer to get my upgrade fee. I'm happy to upgrade legitimately from my legitimate v3, but I don't consider it to be a viable option at the moment. TomTom seem to have lost their way on PocketPC software since they are apparently unifying the software to match their TomTomGO platform. Sadly that leaves those of us with sophisticated multi-purpose devices wondering why we can't have the flexibility of version 3, in which we could keep the Windows Taskbar on the screen and actually use the damn operating system at the same time!
Not good, TomTom. Not good at all. :evil:

Thanks SiliconS.

You have no choice but to wait for the upgrade as I can't find any link to do this on their web site. Does anyone know of any other way of upgrading?
I have version 3 & I refuse to buy version 5 other than through an upgrade.
Mike

I have paid for the upgrade, but the cracked version saves having to mess around with their annoying registration system.
I find the UI clean and elegant. It allows you to quickly do what you need, without fuss. It also makes switching from other TomTom's (Go etc) easy. I find version 5 far better than 3. The maps are much improved too and include all of Europe. Easily worth the upgrade price.
(The screen update is slow in landscape mode, but fine in Portrait.)

i got this (on the wizard) and i still get the same backlight turning off when running it problem. and the hex edit doesnt work with this exe (well not the same values anyway)

thefunkygibbon, you need to hex edit the exe and find the 4 instances of backlight and change them to bbcklight.
Works great on wm5.

hack done
Tomtom 5.2 with hexa change

I have noticed no difference in operation over 5.1
The only change I can see is that it installs via active sink (sic) and ignores the instruction to install to the SD card by placing the application in RAM :evil:

not working correctly
this works for me but cant get any voices to work (i put them on the storgae card from original disk)
it will not find my gps either any ideas
clive

sparkyxda said:
I have noticed no difference in operation over 5.1
The only change I can see is that it installs via active sink (sic) and ignores the instruction to install to the SD card by placing the application in RAM :evil:
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Yea, those bozos at TomTom excelled themselves again, didn't they?
http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=6309013&postcount=9

Apart from what was said on Howard Forums, which I agree with (clueless TomTom devs!), the update seems to add the ability to install without having to copy the CABS onto the phone.
Apart from that, no difference. If you start it up in landscape mode, it'll run in portrait mode.
One other hint that TomTom are clueless idiots - the compatibility list shows the Jasjar and the MDA Pro as being compatible. However, when I requested an activation code from them they insisted the M5000 was not compatible. They wouldn't accept that the M5000 and the XDA Exec were the same hardware and base image!

In tomtom V5.21 better bluetooth management and u can install directly by activesync with WM2005. For the voices you must to install with the original disk and then you can choise the voices otherwise copy tomtom directory contain the voices in "my documents"

dazza12 said:
Apart from what was said on Howard Forums, which I agree with (clueless TomTom devs!), the update seems to add the ability to install without having to copy the CABS onto the phone.
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Precisely. Activesync install was the one obvious thing they had to fix, and they cocked it up. Funny how every other WM5 developer in the world seems to manage it.
Apart from that, no difference. If you start it up in landscape mode, it'll run in portrait mode.
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Precisely. Broken landscape mode. No support for soft buttons. So what's this magical support for WM5? Everything works the same (or doesn't) as in 5.1.
One other hint that TomTom are clueless idiots - the compatibility list shows the Jasjar and the MDA Pro as being compatible. However, when I requested an activation code from them they insisted the M5000 was not compatible. They wouldn't accept that the M5000 and the XDA Exec were the same hardware and base image!
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Clealry, TomTom employees are a complete bozos, and their management couldn't give a sh*t because they've got your money. No wonder people are so keen to rip them off.

kojiro said:
u can install directly by activesync with WM2005.
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Yes, but the morons f*cked up the code so it won't install to the Storage Card. One CAB doesn't ask, the 2nd CAB asks but ignores your answer. So unless you move everything by hand with File Explorer, that's 3MB of your precious main memory wasted. Don't forget it's your money that's paying them to write that crap.

tomtom xda exec
i cant get voices to work or my bt gps helpppppppppppp ,ripping my hair out ive tried all the socalled fixes but no goooood any help would be really great thx

Hitchhiker 0.4 Beta 1 Released

http://www.kasuei.com/Hitchhiker/

thanks for the info.
wolfgang

I tried it on my Exec but despite the surrounding WiFi hotspots being visible to the built in client, the Hitchhiker process sees none....
Not too impressed.

I've tried it on my MDA Pro
It gives the error
This application (Hitchhiker.exe) requires a newer version of the Microsoft .NET Compact Framework than the version installed on this device.
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hollinshead said:
I've tried it on my MDA Pro
It gives the error
This application (Hitchhiker.exe) requires a newer version of the Microsoft .NET Compact Framework than the version installed on this device.
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It requires .NET Compact Framework 2.0
http://www.kasuei.com/Hitchhiker/ has a link to it on the page

hollinshead said:
I've tried it on my MDA Pro
It gives the error
This application (Hitchhiker.exe) requires a newer version of the Microsoft .NET Compact Framework than the version installed on this device.
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You have to install .NET Compact Framework 2.0 in order to be able to use it...
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9655156b-356b-4a2c-857c-e62f50ae9a55
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On my device it works, not so great but it works...
I don’t like that it doesn’t initiate WI-FI connection on its own, you have to start it manually...
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I've just seen that skearon posted a the same thing a moment b4 me...

Sorry, I'm at work and didn't bother reading the page.

Well, I insalled FW2 and while the program runs fine, it can ony see one of six [strong] WiFi points local to me....

That compact framwork is MASSIVE!
I don't have that sort of free space on my phone!

If you guys are still looking for a WiFi finder application, WiFiFoFum works fine on my XDA EXEC. Here is a link:
http://www.aspecto-software.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=311&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

cktlcmd said:
If you guys are still looking for a WiFi finder application, WiFiFoFum works fine on my XDA EXEC. Here is a link:
http://www.aspecto-software.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=311&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
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That still requires the compact framework thing which is massive.
How come u need this on the universal, but things like this worked fine on the blue angel etc running 2003?

hollinshead said:
That compact framwork is MASSIVE!
I don't have that sort of free space on my phone!
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True, but u can install on SD card

I installed both the Framework and the soft but the soft crash each time what about you ?

Daimaou said:
I installed both the Framework and the soft but the soft crash each time what about you ?
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I installed both Net Framework and WiFiFoFum to my SD card. A little slow to open but once opened. It runs fast. Detects WiFi access points in less than 4 seconds on my EXEC.
What I did was install the NetFramework to the SD card first then soft reset the device. I then installed WiFiFoFum to the SD Card.

Hmmm, I actually never thought about installing to my SD card. I have more than enough space on the 1gb unit, but what is speed like? Is the SD memory access comparable to the onboard memory at all?
WiFiFoFum works well on my Exec and picks up hotspots Hitchhiker cannot.

MS Office 2007 CAB - only for WM6

Hi, someone here wrote that it is impossible to create office 2007 cab file. I tried it and here is a result... Download the cab file and install it, then reset the device. It works only on WM6 for now, but I'll try to make it for WM5 too.
Tested on Wizard WM6 (5.2.318 Build 15342.0.0.0).
Download link: http://rapidshare.com/files/35775212/jimm98y_office2007.CAB.html
Here is new version:
+ executables are compressed
+ fixed uninstall bug with deleting icons
- still doesn't work on WM5
Download link: http://rapidshare.com/files/35900969/jimm98y_office2007.CAB.html
Download mirror: http://sharegadget.com/563261821 - working (6.5.2008)

nice, i will try..let see if realy works and dont dupe the office

works without any problem (Most Beautiful WM6) at Wizard. Thanks
diky moc

works here too with core 2.0n

sorry for sounding so ignorant but what exactly is this.... mobile office 2007??

afaik it is an update to the three mobile office applications to support the new office 2007 fileformat.
but does it add any other features?

yes, there is a new application One Note Mobile...

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yes, there is a new application One Note Mobile...
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on my wm5 device i can install it with onenote 2007 on my pc.
what is new in this app? the normal notes application seems to be more useful.

Is there anything in the Cab that is making it an only Wizard cab?

No, it should work on every QVGA WM6 device

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No, it should work on every QVGA WM6 device
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I agree, I just went through the cab, good work, doesn't appear to have anything device specific, Thanks.
What program did you use for building the cab, just curious.

I used cabwiz.exe for ppc and the *.inf file, because I think that it's the best way of making cabs...

Jimm98y said:
I used cabwiz.exe for ppc and the *.inf file, because I think that it's the best way of making cabs...
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Any idea where I can download, I don't want to download the entire SDK tools.

WM5
Top stuff, any news on a WM5 version

worked on my Black 3, Thanks, but it takes about 5-6MBs off the device memory.. that's just too much

Great stuff!
Works on a SDK-image too, but only on the English ones. I tried it on a Dutch SDK, but that won't work.

Installation worked flawless on my German WM6 ROM with my Herald. No Problems opening a .docx file, but Excel won't start at all.

X_Farhad said:
worked on my Black 3, Thanks, but it takes about 5-6MBs off the device memory.. that's just too much
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How did it only take 5 - 6 MB of Storage Memory. Mine dropped from 20.11mb down to 6.91mb. . . WAAAYYY too much for me. Too bad, too. . . it was working flawlessly . . . and I really wanted the OneNote app, too.
Disregard that. . . DOH!! After I deleted the .cab file, I gained back almost 7MB of Storage Space. . . a little more "liveable" now.

newbie2 said:
How did it only take 5 - 6 MB of Storage Memory. Mine dropped from 20.11mb down to 6.91mb. . . WAAAYYY too much for me. Too bad, too. . . it was working flawlessly . . . and I really wanted the OneNote app, too.
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this version is realy large...
that why anyone use on rom...if you dont have office 2007 on your pc...is beter keep the old

Running WM6 Business Edition.
Took about 6mb of space on my phone.
All 4 apps ran fine.
I could not remove it using the remove programs control panel app.