I have a small problem gays using Jam + WIFI SD + Skype!!!
I started with basic installation of Skype into SD + internet via same SD with WIFI. The result was very sad, internal calls in Skype network were fine, but during external ones (Skype Out) I could hear my opponent first 5 sec with terrible sound quality, then my Jam simply hang – I had to do soft reset :x .
After some experiments I realised that the main problem is the speed of data transaction, as well as it takes some processor power to transform analog voice in to digital and vice versa. My future installation of Skype I made into main memory and upscale processor speed up to 520. (This is the maximum power I can provide for given application After that, my JAM was not hanging anymore :? , but still the quality was too bad – dilate in voice transaction, every 5 sec I am loosing sound or getting only parts of words. The LOG check of processor speed during conversation showed 100% of activity most of the time. My idea about that situation is presence of processor power leaking because of SD WIFI usage. For example Skype Out was working fine via USB connection, no CPU up scaling, installation in SD memory. :?:
Will really appreciate if someone will share their opinion + experience according current situation.
I have no solution but I can verify your experiences. But for me even normal skype calls do not work well. Very garbled conversations.
But I haven't been able to oc my processor. I tried Hackmaster but that didn't work really well. What are you using?
Hi, I have been using Skype on a Jam for a while with no real problems other than the odd system hang etc.
It's running over a bluetooth connection (using the Bluesoleil BT stack and a Dlink BT Access point) and although I haven't used SkypeOut the sound is good.
Cheers,
Martin
Does any try this?
The official Skype said it require min 312MHz CPU to run it.
Just wanna see is the performance on or not.
kowin said:
Does any try this?
The official Skype said it require min 312MHz CPU to run it.
Just wanna see is the performance on or not.
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I overclocked my Dopod 818 pro to 276 Mhz and Skype works like magic without hassles
Cheers!
don't overclock for too long. The most feasible setting that is observed is 240MHz. Your battery wont die on your all at once and skype (low CPU) will work perfect
Be careful not to fry its motherboard!
Prophet and Skype
The only way to use skype on the prophet is too overclock...I have had success at above 216mhz
Recently I attempted Skype (at 228mhz) on the local GPRS/EGDE network ...I was able to dial/connect and receive the voice from the person I called but they were unable to hear my voice.
Anyone get Skype fully functional on a high speed network?
Prophet and Skype
The only way to use skype on the prophet is too overclock...I have had success at above 216mhz
Recently I attempted Skype (at 228mhz) on the local GPRS/EGDE network ...I was able to dial/connect and receive the voice from the person I called but they were unable to hear my voice.
Anyone get Skype fully functional on a high speed network?
kowin said:
Does any try this?
The official Skype said it require min 312MHz CPU to run it.
Just wanna see is the performance on or not.
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is ok, I'm using now..I'm not turnup CPU is ok!!
kowin said:
Does any try this?
The official Skype said it require min 312MHz CPU to run it.
Just wanna see is the performance on or not.
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is ok, I'm using now..I'm not turnup CPU is ok!!
Skype rear speaker / headset
Has anyone figured out how to use skype 2.0 Low CPU with a BT headset, or at least via the regular telephone speaker?
Tom
use Skype Low CPU or HighCPU for Prophet?
hi guys,
WHich Skype version is recommended?
I tried the Low-CPU version since its meant for 312MHz PPC versions
But...I can barely hear the other party. The voice seems badly distorted.
I then switched to the High-CPU version and I can hear the other part lt least.
Anyone had similar experience as above?
Cheers
FY
gunggu said:
kowin said:
Does any try this?
The official Skype said it require min 312MHz CPU to run it.
Just wanna see is the performance on or not.
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I overclocked my Dopod 818 pro to 276 Mhz and Skype works like magic without hassles
Cheers!
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This is so amazing....I can only overclock mine to the max of 263MHz anything more it will go bonkers Immediately.
How u manage to push it to 276MHz....any pointers?
Cheers
FY
I was able to get the original Skype that came with my Jamin working. The program is installed on a Sandisk 2gb Ultra SD card and I overclocked the processor to 240mhz.
What is more interesting than Skype is a service called SIPDiscount http://www.sipdiscount.com/en/index.html . Go to that site and sign up for 10 euros, or you can use it free for 1 minute at a time to test it.
You can run the SIP service on a program called SJPhone for PPC http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html download the 2003SE version for pocket pc. They work great together and you can even call out to a US land line for free! No overclocking is neccessary because it is much lighter than Skype.
I've attached a text file that explains how to set up SJPhone to work with SIPDiscount. These directions work for the normal PC computer version of SJPhone also.
Have fun :lol:
P.S. You should always use a good headset with microphone for the best sound quality, without a headset there is usually an echo.
on my JAMin with SKYPE 2.00 Higher CPU one, the other person's sound comes out of the SPEAKER PHONE, is that normal or can I somehow switch to regular earpiece
I have a JAMin overclocked to 240, using Skype latest version low cpu, and over Wifi I have a decent, usable sound quality. I haven't tried it over Gprs/Edge.
Re: use Skype Low CPU or HighCPU for Prophet?
I was using Low-CPU (312MHz) version, I can hardly hear other party also. I will try to over-clock and see if it works or not. Or should we use High CPU version? Can anybody provide us the correct version and procedures in a more systematic way?
fychan said:
hi guys,
WHich Skype version is recommended?
I tried the Low-CPU version since its meant for 312MHz PPC versions
But...I can barely hear the other party. The voice seems badly distorted.
I then switched to the High-CPU version and I can hear the other part lt least.
Anyone had similar experience as above?
Cheers
FY
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I don't overclock my S200, but it's running Skype perfectly. I've downloaded the latest 2.0.0.51 Skype version, installed and started without any problem. I made a voice chat with my friend via Wi-Fi network, he heard me and I heard him clearly.
It's just for people who want to buy Prophet but afraid about Skype not working.
Well, in my Qtek S200 i make a shortcut to overclock the cpu to 240Mhz and run Skype. When i exit skype the cpu clock becames 180Mhz.
I tested in a wifi connection without any problems. With GPRS i haven´t testet yet, but i think GPRS doesn´t have enough upstream to make Skype work properly.
This is my 50 cents!
Regards
GPRS no, Wifi yes
For the people trying Skype over GPRS, read the FAQ before blaming the OMAP processor.
http://support.skype.com/index.php?...base&_j=subcat&_i=12'>Skype+for+Pocket+PC</a>
"Skype for Pocket PC is designed to be used with a WiFi connection. If you are using Skype for Pocket PC with GPRS, you can use instant messaging but the bandwidth does not support calling functionality."
I have no problems with Skype low_cpu over Wifi.
Matterhorn said:
What is more interesting than Skype is a service called SIPDiscount http://www.sipdiscount.com/en/index.html . Go to that site and sign up for 10 euros, or you can use it free for 1 minute at a time to test it.
You can run the SIP service on a program called SJPhone for PPC http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html download the 2003SE version for pocket pc. They work great together and you can even call out to a US land line for free! No overclocking is neccessary because it is much lighter than Skype.
I am trying this on a Charmer (MDA Compact II) on T Mobile UK I Have followed all the instructions and it says "No active network interface"
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Skype for ARM
Hi Guys
Well, first of all, I don't have the S200 yet, I'll get it today or on tuesday. I did some research before ordering it:
When it comes to Skype, there seems to be a lot confusion about how to run it smoothly. The problem seems to be, that Skype is compiled to run on an Intel Xscale processor. Well, as we all know, the S200 has an TI OMAP processor and that one has an ARM architecture. Search on Google a little bit, and you'll find out the differences. A TI OMAP 200MHz Processor is comparable to an Xscale 400-450MHz Processor only that the OMAP uses less power.
Naturally, ARM has a lower CPU frequency, but the benefit of it is, that it is multitasking. Xscale is a straight-forward processor, ARM does many things in parallel. This difference in architecture causes problems if one runs an Xscale Program on an ARM processor, because the program does not delegate the different tasks to the different units on the ARM, but only forwards them to the main ALU. That one, of course is overwhelmed, while the rest of the Processor doesn't know what to do.
Conclusion: Skype is for Xscale --> does not use the OMAP all the way and with all the available features (Sound ALU, WIFI ALU, ...)
What we need is a Skype that is made for the processor architecture of the S200
Search on Google and you'll find the following:
Skype for ARM
Of course it is an old version, I don't exactly know what has changed with skype, but as far as I know the protocol is still the same, so calling should not be a problem.
Anyways, I think I'll try the new Skype version first, and then the old one and will compare it.
You'll hear back from me, of cours I'll be happy if somebody else could try it as well and tell us what he or she experienced
Ok Guys, can I install skype to ny Uni without it completely aborting, sucking all sytem mem and failing to install ballsing up my gadget totally?
is anyone on the latest V of it and cares to share their experiences? . . sure there are a few ppl wanting to use it but are chicken lickin like me!
lr
I've used it, works fine (with wifi). I use the hands free corded set I got with the xda exec. I didn't want to use bluetooth headset as this zaps more resources from the exec. One odd thing, is that the first time you dial someone after loading it, there is no sound. So you dial, let it ring for a second. disconnect and then dial again. Everything then works ok. I have had a number of wm2003 and wm5 devices and Skype never works flawlessly, there is always some hickup. The call quality does seem to be quite good on the exec.
I have seen people talking about this in other places and was wondering if anyone knows what to do to get skype to work both ways in an O2-Atom.
I can hear the other side, but they hear me broken up or not at all...
*sob* I only bought the atom because of the built in WiFi so I can skype at home without sitting at the computer...
Know this disappointing. I had the same problem with an i-mate JAM aka HTC Magician aka MDA Vario etc. Has the same 416MHz CPU as the Atom. I tried Skype using a high quality, fast Wi-Fi card. Same issues. Incoming sound fine, outgoing garbled. I asked around on the Skype forum and it seems the stated Skype system requirements are optimistic. Seems users with straight non-phone Pocket PCs can Skype at around 400MHz. but phone edition devices can only do it if overclocked to at least 545MHz. Persoanally, I am very reluctant to overclock due to heat and battery life issies. So sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I would love to hear if you can find an alternate VOIP client than can deliver for you.
Oops, sorry. I double posted by mistake.... :?
Even i face the same problem .....it seems that there is a universal defect for atom. please anybody else reading this suggest anything to improve it.
Thank you in advance.
I've got the TyTN and the P4350 now; I'll do some comparison and report back here.
Martin
Can you test the wi-fi reception of this device and compare it with Tytn's range(weak)? Thank you.
Very short : (longer review to come)
Although the P4350 has got a slower CPU (200 Mhz - 400 Mhz on the TyTN), it's working much smoother/faster than the TyTN. The rather annoying delay (although minor) on the TyTN when using the numpad in the phone is almost not detectable on the P4350.
Seems much faster graphics.
The Autoslide keyboard is wonderful! VERY VERY nice. The keyboard simply jumps open.
More to come; when I have the time I'm going to go more in depth with my testing, trying to stress the machine a bit.
So far I'm VERY satisfied! In my eyes it's a better device than the TyTN; it now fits nicely in my pockets (17 mm thick (TyTN 22 mm)). I ended up disabling 3G on my TyTN anyway due to the battery draining - so that the P4350 doesn't have 3G possibilities fits me just fine.
I'll be back ;-)
Martin
mine will be here tommorrow
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mine will be here tommorrow
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We're waiting also for your review.
Hi all,
Had anyone tried skype on the Herald ?
How is it as compared to Hermes ?
Thanks
Have you tested divx with TCPMP?
btw skype is about to release version which run on 200mhz
Hi Pakiyabhai,
That is good news, have you got more details on the new skype -- such as the time frame ?
The new Skype 2.2 beta is the version you're looking for. According to their FAQ it supports the 195MHz OMAP:
http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=982
v2.2 BETA download
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/downloading_low_beta.html
I've been using it with my P4350 and it works great without overclocking. Just use the headset and close other programs before starting. [hint: HTC includes the Task Manager utility in the P4350 that closes apps properly when exiting; it's disabled by default]
Ok its exactly like my beloved old jam. only with a keyboard. the speed is the same, almost better than my tytn and treo 750v. the keyboard is loose compared to my tytn , kjam, and ppc 6700. the internet loads almost as fast as my tytn, i dont have 3g in my area yet. the screen is the best i have had yet except for my old universal (to big) i cant wait for the omni... there are not enough buttons even with ae button plus imnot quite satisfied. the keyboard is the best yet. and the wow factor is the best yet. ill talk more later
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The new Skype 2.2 beta is the version you're looking for. According to their FAQ it supports the 195MHz OMAP:
http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=982
v2.2 BETA download
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/downloading_low_beta.html
I've been using it with my P4350 and it works great without overclocking. Just use the headset and close other programs before starting. [hint: HTC includes the Task Manager utility in the P4350 that closes apps properly when exiting; it's disabled by default]
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Hi Daguru,
Thanks for your reply & info.
How about the Wifi reception as compared to HTC Hermis ?
I was wondering if skype 2.2 requirement of 195MHz is the MIN
operation requirement will not be ideal in practical environment ?
Also I require more feedback on the new skype 2.2 beta with
HTC Herald on the voice quality, connection quality.
As this is very important consideration for me getting this
wonderful device and not HTC Hermes.
The general comment so far is that the Herald is as fast if not faster
than the Hermes even though the CPU Hz speed for Herald is half.
I wonder why ?
I had this impression that, some of the older approx 200MHz PDA phone
devices review have mentioned that during basic operation
e.g. sms, making call etc is too slow. Does Herald have such problem
i.e. keypress respond is too slow ?
Thanks for reading
Well I have had my herald for a few weeks now. It was going to be my primary device. but also two weeks ago i got hsdpa in my area. so I was playing with my three hsdpa enabled pda phones. but here I am a week or two later back using the herald again. I have the cpu set to 252 with omapclockplus . It is just so small and cool. It is slower than my tytn when going through the menu's. But it turns on quicker, answers the phone quicker. has better sound quality ( the phone) Voice command 1.6 works flawlesly over the headset with no tweaks right out of the box. it tells you who is calling through the blootooth headset. and is much more responsive..
that said the ram leaves much to be desired. I admit I have a tun of programs that i consider must haves. But on a fresh soft boot I have 19 mb free. about two mins later its at 15 and it seems to be hovering around 12 or 13. Ok so i have never had a low mem problem, but I like to have it there.
Hello,
I finnaly got mine too ;-) It's working fine with Orange FR, just need to find some GPRS parameters.
Also I just found this news:
http://www.vodafoneshop.de/shop/det...66&artikel_daten_id=3555&B_ID=243&I_ID=0&TD=1
Vodaphone released the Herald/P4350 as VPA Compact IV (with MS Direct Push & Blackberry support).
Nico
Tomorrow I'll get mine