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Skype version for PPC

For Skype user, which version did you put on magician? Low CPU version, or the normal one?
Thx.
Regards,
Arto.

I used the normal one not the low cpu version - with the most recent build the performance is great over wifi on the magician . I can walk around with the headset and talk . I can't get bluetooth to work yet on pocket skype.
I have my PDA running at 585 with pocket hack............ but even at 416 I get no break up at my end of the telephone coversation or from the other party I am speaking too.

din get a word of what u had jus typed
guys i need to install skype on my phone but how do i do it??n please help me oput in english, i.e. language spoken by people who dont own an o2 mini
thanks

I noticed skype gets sluggish in my mini if I use it continuously. However, when I use the low CPU version, I get better performance. YMMV.

Help! O2 Atom doesnt skype!

I have seen people talking about this in other places and was wondering if anyone knows what to do to get skype to work both ways in an O2-Atom.
I can hear the other side, but they hear me broken up or not at all...
*sob* I only bought the atom because of the built in WiFi so I can skype at home without sitting at the computer...

Know this disappointing. I had the same problem with an i-mate JAM aka HTC Magician aka MDA Vario etc. Has the same 416MHz CPU as the Atom. I tried Skype using a high quality, fast Wi-Fi card. Same issues. Incoming sound fine, outgoing garbled. I asked around on the Skype forum and it seems the stated Skype system requirements are optimistic. Seems users with straight non-phone Pocket PCs can Skype at around 400MHz. but phone edition devices can only do it if overclocked to at least 545MHz. Persoanally, I am very reluctant to overclock due to heat and battery life issies. So sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I would love to hear if you can find an alternate VOIP client than can deliver for you.

Oops, sorry. I double posted by mistake.... :?

Even i face the same problem .....it seems that there is a universal defect for atom. please anybody else reading this suggest anything to improve it.
Thank you in advance.

Got mine :-)

I've got the TyTN and the P4350 now; I'll do some comparison and report back here.
Martin

Can you test the wi-fi reception of this device and compare it with Tytn's range(weak)? Thank you.

Very short : (longer review to come)
Although the P4350 has got a slower CPU (200 Mhz - 400 Mhz on the TyTN), it's working much smoother/faster than the TyTN. The rather annoying delay (although minor) on the TyTN when using the numpad in the phone is almost not detectable on the P4350.
Seems much faster graphics.
The Autoslide keyboard is wonderful! VERY VERY nice. The keyboard simply jumps open.
More to come; when I have the time I'm going to go more in depth with my testing, trying to stress the machine a bit.
So far I'm VERY satisfied! In my eyes it's a better device than the TyTN; it now fits nicely in my pockets (17 mm thick (TyTN 22 mm)). I ended up disabling 3G on my TyTN anyway due to the battery draining - so that the P4350 doesn't have 3G possibilities fits me just fine.
I'll be back ;-)
Martin

mine will be here tommorrow

chakra said:
mine will be here tommorrow
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We're waiting also for your review.

Hi all,
Had anyone tried skype on the Herald ?
How is it as compared to Hermes ?
Thanks

Have you tested divx with TCPMP?

btw skype is about to release version which run on 200mhz

Hi Pakiyabhai,
That is good news, have you got more details on the new skype -- such as the time frame ?

The new Skype 2.2 beta is the version you're looking for. According to their FAQ it supports the 195MHz OMAP:
http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=982
v2.2 BETA download
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/downloading_low_beta.html
I've been using it with my P4350 and it works great without overclocking. Just use the headset and close other programs before starting. [hint: HTC includes the Task Manager utility in the P4350 that closes apps properly when exiting; it's disabled by default]

Ok its exactly like my beloved old jam. only with a keyboard. the speed is the same, almost better than my tytn and treo 750v. the keyboard is loose compared to my tytn , kjam, and ppc 6700. the internet loads almost as fast as my tytn, i dont have 3g in my area yet. the screen is the best i have had yet except for my old universal (to big) i cant wait for the omni... there are not enough buttons even with ae button plus imnot quite satisfied. the keyboard is the best yet. and the wow factor is the best yet. ill talk more later

daguru said:
The new Skype 2.2 beta is the version you're looking for. According to their FAQ it supports the 195MHz OMAP:
http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=982
v2.2 BETA download
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/downloading_low_beta.html
I've been using it with my P4350 and it works great without overclocking. Just use the headset and close other programs before starting. [hint: HTC includes the Task Manager utility in the P4350 that closes apps properly when exiting; it's disabled by default]
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Hi Daguru,
Thanks for your reply & info.
How about the Wifi reception as compared to HTC Hermis ?
I was wondering if skype 2.2 requirement of 195MHz is the MIN
operation requirement will not be ideal in practical environment ?
Also I require more feedback on the new skype 2.2 beta with
HTC Herald on the voice quality, connection quality.
As this is very important consideration for me getting this
wonderful device and not HTC Hermes.
The general comment so far is that the Herald is as fast if not faster
than the Hermes even though the CPU Hz speed for Herald is half.
I wonder why ?
I had this impression that, some of the older approx 200MHz PDA phone
devices review have mentioned that during basic operation
e.g. sms, making call etc is too slow. Does Herald have such problem
i.e. keypress respond is too slow ?
Thanks for reading

Well I have had my herald for a few weeks now. It was going to be my primary device. but also two weeks ago i got hsdpa in my area. so I was playing with my three hsdpa enabled pda phones. but here I am a week or two later back using the herald again. I have the cpu set to 252 with omapclockplus . It is just so small and cool. It is slower than my tytn when going through the menu's. But it turns on quicker, answers the phone quicker. has better sound quality ( the phone) Voice command 1.6 works flawlesly over the headset with no tweaks right out of the box. it tells you who is calling through the blootooth headset. and is much more responsive..
that said the ram leaves much to be desired. I admit I have a tun of programs that i consider must haves. But on a fresh soft boot I have 19 mb free. about two mins later its at 15 and it seems to be hovering around 12 or 13. Ok so i have never had a low mem problem, but I like to have it there.

Hello,
I finnaly got mine too ;-) It's working fine with Orange FR, just need to find some GPRS parameters.
Also I just found this news:
http://www.vodafoneshop.de/shop/det...66&artikel_daten_id=3555&B_ID=243&I_ID=0&TD=1
Vodaphone released the Herald/P4350 as VPA Compact IV (with MS Direct Push & Blackberry support).
Nico

Tomorrow I'll get mine

Skype For Wizard

http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/
brand new beta version available specifically for the Wizard or I-Mate K Jam

Yep. The new 2.2 Beta version is the greatest ever. I can now use skype with WIFI or EDGE!! I can't believe it! way to go skype!

Problems loading to storage card
I have uninstalled v2.1 & tried to re-install this version. Keep getting an error that it will not install & to try another location (ie main memory).
Tried a soft re-set. Still no joy.
Anyone else managed to install on a memory card?

I have it on the memory card as it is around 5.5MB's

adthor said:
I have uninstalled v2.1 & tried to re-install this version. Keep getting an error that it will not install & to try another location (ie main memory).
Tried a soft re-set. Still no joy.
Anyone else managed to install on a memory card?
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Have the same problem...
Tried to install to memory card and main memory and always the same " try another location "
Update: removed all registry keys from previous skype version, soft reset, and then installed without problems.

Any news of Skype using the TYTN front Cam?
Have used the new version 2.2 today and it's nice but don't think it works with webcam yet.
Has anyone heard if Skye will produce a version that enables the front cam on tytn for video calls?
Al

Alterego said:
Have the same problem...
Tried to install to memory card and main memory and always the same " try another location "
Update: removed all registry keys from previous skype version, soft reset, and then installed without problems.
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Hello,
Did you also get that message :"could not start Skype" then "couldn't find all the necessary files to start Skype. Please try to install Skype again. Skype will now quit."
If yes how did you remove all registry keys from previous Skype version ?
If it's not the case, anyone has any idea where the problem comes from ? The skype version is 2.2.00.20 (might be that there are some parts missing in it ?)
Jerome

How is the lag time on GPRS or EDGE networks? Is it worth installing if you're rarely around a wifi point?

I installed it and it worked fine. Was amazed as the original needed a 300mhz processor and ofc ours only have 200.
Went straight on, and works identical to Skype on my computer.
Just need to convince work to buy a wireless network and I will be laughing
The version is 2.2.0.20 and I just installed it off the skype website.

It was working fine for me before over GPRS now it won't connect for some reason.

It works for me!
I've installed "lowCPU" version on my Qtek 9100 SD card.
It starts fine, it works fine.
Seems to be much faster and/or better custommized then non "lowCPU" 2.1 version.

Certainly feels a little more developed than my previous version of Skype. Call quality seems to have increased. I like the Skype Today plugin also.

aww... if theres any kind of upgrade for lowCPU ppc's for VoIP programs like X-lite so i can use my VoIPstunt account...

Cool! works on my wizard.
How can I get it to route the sound through my earpiece, or my bluetooth headset, instead of going to the speakerphone? It echos badly on speakerphone, and everyone else can hear my conversations.

maxh said:
Cool! works on my wizard.
How can I get it to route the sound through my earpiece, or my bluetooth headset, instead of going to the speakerphone? It echos badly on speakerphone, and everyone else can hear my conversations.
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yeah, i really dont like the speakerfone stuff...

Speakerphone???
Hi to all,
it works very well on echo123, since there are no echo cancellation issues, however in the real world the external loudspeaker=echo is simply a disaster...any suggestions on the use of the internal loudspeaker as in a normal telephone?

pzucchel said:
Hi to all,
it works very well on echo123, since there are no echo cancellation issues, however in the real world the external loudspeaker=echo is simply a disaster...any suggestions on the use of the internal loudspeaker as in a normal telephone?
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they are still working on fixing that, as of now that version only works with the external speaker.

Hi,
I've just installed this skype on my Qtek 9100, all seems to work great but I cant hear anyone.
They can hear me fine but I hear nothing.
Any ideas as to what I could be doing wrong?

how much does it tax the CPU?

I noticed they have different versions of the same beta for different models.
The Hermes and the Universal are redirected to this page (High BETA)
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/downloading_high_beta.html
while the Wizard is directed to this page (Low BETA)
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/downloading_low_beta.html
Both bpages display the same version numbers and release dates. Infact unless you look at the URL you can't even tell it's a different file.
I tried downloading both. The Low CPU version is only 4.50 MB and teh High CPU version is 4.85 MB.
I keep wondering now if there is anything missing in the Low CPU version.
Can anybody shed some light on this???

Trinity and Pocket Hack Master

I tried PHM on my HTC P3600 (Expansys) and tested all the speeds shown that were available -- they all checked out OK, from 450 down to 250. I then selected a range of five speeds for the autoscale, from my lowest to highest 'favourites' including the lowest and highest.
I find a marked improvement with TCPMP and Skype when I hard-set the 450 speed. However, if I allow the thing to self-scale, it will drop to the lowest speed on idle, and then:
IT MISSES CALLS AND SMS!
Anyone care to share experiences?
As of this time the antontomov.com forum is down so I can't check that for comment.
Thanks!

aZooZa said:
I tried PHM on my HTC P3600 (Expansys) and tested all the speeds shown that were available -- they all checked out OK, from 450 down to 250. I then selected a range of five speeds for the autoscale, from my lowest to highest 'favourites' including the lowest and highest.
I find a marked improvement with TCPMP and Skype when I hard-set the 450 speed. However, if I allow the thing to self-scale, it will drop to the lowest speed on idle, and then:
IT MISSES CALLS AND SMS!
Anyone care to share experiences?
As of this time the antontomov.com forum is down so I can't check that for comment.
Thanks!
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Quick Question!! Does your Bluetooth work if you set the step to 420MHz or faster?

That's one thing I forgot to mention. Turning BT on and off is very hit and miss. Didn't notice if it was at a set speed, but yes, I had problems with BT.

Nobody tried PHM with Trinity?

miss calls
I have the same Problem. My Trinity misses calls & SMS when I set a speed different from 400Mhz.
Does anyone know why this is happening ?

I keep trying Tomov's forum but it's always down. This is very frustrating. The 450Mhz option makes Skype useable but surely this Samsung processor can be clocked higher than 450Mhz? Then maybe my TCPMP .avi movie collection would be without stutter.
Also, I have a question: Once you run PHM and set a CPU speed, does that speed stay current even if you dismiss PHM, or do you have to minimise PHM to keep the CPU settings?
TIA!

Any help here would really be appreciated.

Hi,
I'm using XCPUScalar2007 with auto-scale function and I don't miss calls or sms at all (tried many times in different configurations).
I set the auto-scale as follow:
100Mhz up to 15% of CPU load
300Mhz to 40%
400Mhz to 70%
472Mhz from 71 to 100%.
With XCPUScalar, the highest possible frequency is 500Mhz.
I did not had time to test this settings with a BT headset, but BT activation is ok, and no visible problem with my BT GPS receiver (holux GPSlim 236).

Thanks very much bynico92! I didn't think XCPUScalar was compatible with Samsung - but obviously so! I will give it a go.

Well, I have purchased and installed XCPUScalar and it appears to be working fine, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it doesn't actually do anything.
I say this, because viewing a movie in Core Player (TCPMP) at 100Mhz gives the same viewing experience as with 472Mhz.
Anyone else?

I have tried XCPUScalar, too.
Different settings from 100 to 500 Mhz give the same benchmark results.
IMHO XCPUScalar is not working with the Trinity.

andilein said:
I have tried XCPUScalar, too.
Different settings from 100 to 500 Mhz give the same benchmark results.
IMHO XCPUScalar is not working with the Trinity.
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Thanks for the confirmation! In fact, the Samsung CPU in the Trinity is not listed as supported by XCPUScalar anywhere where that software marketed or promoted. Pocket Hack Master is useless also despite being marketed as 'compatible'.

Anyone using a clock speed app successfully on the Trinity?

Sorry, I don't want to flog this to death but I'll have one more go. Is anyone using a functioning overclock utility on the Trinity?
Thanks!

aZooZa said:
Sorry, I don't want to flog this to death but I'll have one more go. Is anyone using a functioning overclock utility on the Trinity?
Thanks!
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I guess you're not getting any response. As far as I know, people have overclocked the Trinity, but there has always been some bad side effects. Maybe with a new ROM it will work better??

It doens't work for me too. I tried PHM an XCPUScalar. Benchmarks are always the same.