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Backlight problem

Hi,
Sometimes my backlight does not switch on when I've pushed the on/off button for 1 sec to go out of the stand-by mode. I can see that the telephone is working but only without backlight. I don't know where I can find the settings. I'm using the Vario from T-Mobile.
Can somebady help me with this?
thank you in advance.
Regards Witte

maybe hard reset or rom update? , cant imagin what will do that unless somthing is hogging all cpu power perhaps

A reset will help but I'm not happy to update my ROM. I'm afraid for more problems.

witte_nl said:
Hi,
Sometimes my backlight does not switch on when I've pushed the on/off button for 1 sec to go out of the stand-by mode. I can see that the telephone is working but only without backlight. I don't know where I can find the settings. I'm using the Vario from T-Mobile.
Can somebady help me with this?
thank you in advance.
Regards Witte
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Did you have the power cable in?
I have the same problem when i'm charging the phone.
When i press the power on button the light stays off.

Maybe you've got Spb GPRS Monitor installed on it?

Izzard-UK said:
Maybe you've got Spb GPRS Monitor installed on it?
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Spb GPRS Monitor does this problem on my 9100 too, any software with SPB in the name seems quite buggy.. ;-)

OK,
right now I don't have the problem anymore but I'll will monitor it and maybe then I will uninstall the gprs monitor.
Thanks!! :lol:

witte_nl said:
OK,
right now I don't have the problem anymore but I'll will monitor it and maybe then I will uninstall the gprs monitor.
Thanks!! :lol:
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You will.. do a search - I posted this a while back... they know about it.
Terran

MDA Backlight issue
I ran across a problem with the MDA, where I adjusted the Backlight settings. From there on the Backlight woulf not turn on unless I went to the setting control to adjust it. The fix: Go to backlight settings, set your brightness desired (maybe in the middle). Go to Battery power from the tabs that are currently listed. Make sure you have (Turn on Backlight when a button is pressed or the screen is tapped) Selected. Then press ok.
That should fix it if the issue you are experiencing is similar to mine.

I have the same problem with my artemis. And i think is from spb plus since the backlight control button from today dont even work on this new version. Or from phone profiles. Everytime i make a soft reset i have to reajust the backlight or when it turns off i have to make another soft for reajusting before it goes out. It's quite boring and i'm trying to find an app to replace spb with the close button and task button ant the today buttons shortcuts if is that the problem. And my artemis rom dont know why dont have the option on the backlight settings to turn on when screen tapped or key pressed.

App to turn it OFF?

Is there an app or something that can turn the device completely off? I hate this alway on mode that WM insists on :?
Cheers
btw. using a qtek9000

Why do you want it completely off?

I think that's normal for pocket pcs isn't it? I know the XDA2 was the same. Feels weird at first but you get used to it.
Putting it in flight mode then turning the screen off is the closest you can get. Or you can take the battery out to turn it off completely, but that's just ball ache :lol:

DavidT. said:
Why do you want it completely off?
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Well, sometimes I don't use it for a few days, so I'd like it off...
If I take the battery out, then out it back in, it stays off until the power button is pressed, that's the kind of app I'd like. Like psshutXP, but that really turns it off...
Maby there's no way to do this though

GaZ said:
I think that's normal for pocket pcs isn't it? I know the XDA2 was the same. Feels weird at first but you get used to it.
Putting it in flight mode then turning the screen off is the closest you can get. Or you can take the battery out to turn it off completely, but that's just ball ache :lol:
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Yea, I'm used to it, having owned a few different PPC's, I just figured that a device that doesn't lose all info when the battery runs out should have a proper off button :wink:

I am not sure but maybe u can take a look at SkSchema (commercial).
A lot of functions including POWER OFF but I!m a user of Wizard (has off function itself) so nor sure works for u :roll:

I am not sure but maybe u can take a look at SkSchema (commercial).
A lot of functions including POWER OFF but I!m a user of Wizard (has off function itself) so nor sure works for u :roll:

VJEschaton can turn it off (it's never quite off, but close enough), using the option -sleep
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Press the power button several seconds and you will see a popup showing ...."the pda will turn off". Then your pda will be completly turned off (no phone, no energy, etc)

dherrero said:
Press the power button several seconds and you will see a popup showing ...."the pda will turn off". Then your pda will be completly turned off (no phone, no energy, etc)
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Not on my QTek9000, all that does is turn the backlight off...

lock + standby in one go?

Hi all,
I was wondering if it's possible to lock the device and put the phone in standby in one go?
Often when you lock your phone you don't need it anymore and putting it in standby immediatly might save some precious battery juice...
Cheers
B

or for example when in standby, when receiving a message .. the phone wakes it self up .. if you have to leave it in yur pocket, it means that you can touch the touch screen unwillingly.
So yes, I want to be able to lock my phone and put in into standy mode at the same time ;D

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359212
2 post above you...

ah right. this does the trick too.
didn't know.
thanks !

twolf said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359212
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Hi twolf,
that thread has 32 pages, can you point me a bit closer to the standby thing? Thx!
cheers
B

just th first, its a software...
:/

quite aware of that but I don't want to alter my slider behaviour... maybe I'll send a message to the creator of the soft to see how he has added this functionality to his app.
cheers
B

Why not use key lock that's on the device already - put it into to standby and it locks the keys but wakes up on calls & messages.
Start - Setteings - Key Lock - Lock allbuttons except Power Button

well.. the normal keylock doesn't switch the mobile into standby, you need to wait a while before the auto-standby kicks in... and I really don't find the standby button convenient to press

I have the same problem
Another solution?
My standby buton don´t work

Use Slide2Unlock, you can tell it to lock the phone when it goes to standby

Thanks, but, the Slide2Unlock don´t power on my PDA.
the Standby botton, is the power on/off.
best regards

Questions. Do we have answers ?

Hello to everyone. I have a few questions...
1. When we hold the reject call button pressed the device keys lock. Is there an option to autolock the device keys let's say in 1 minute ?
2. What's going on with the alarm clock ? When the device is turned off the alarm clock can't "wake" (turn the power on) the phone and you lose the alarm. Is there a solution ? G-Alarm or Spb Time no good...
3. The programmable Soft Keys. Just above them at the bar it says Calendar and Contacts. But the Soft Keys run other applications because we have programmed them to. Is there a way the bar above them to reflect the Soft Key's programs and not Calendar and Contact ?
Thanks for your time...

1. Use S2U2
2. Of course the alarm can't ring when the device is switched off. What did you expect? It's turned off! No power, no boot, no ring. Your home computer won't ring either if you disconnect the power supply.
3. No, it's not. Because these buttons do not belong together. You have 4 buttons to use, otherwise you just would have 2 -it's much better this way.
However, you can do other way around and program the softkeys to do what the buttons on the screen tell you. START --> SETTINGS --> BUTTONS

skycamefalling said:
1. Use S2U2
2. Of course the alarm can't ring when the device is switched off. What did you expect? It's turned off! No power, no boot, no ring. Your home computer won't ring either if you disconnect the power supply.
3. No, it's not. Because these buttons do not belong together. You have 4 buttons to use, otherwise you just would have 2 -it's much better this way.
However, you can do other way around and program the softkeys to do what the buttons on the screen tell you. START --> SETTINGS --> BUTTONS
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1. THANKS !
2. Every cellphone can "wake up" and power on by its self when the defined alarm time is met. And then the alarm goes off so you can wake up. That's default from the first cellphone that ever came out. This is a bug and no software can fix this. I have tried G-Alarm and Spb Time. I guess i have to wait the update...
3. Yes I agree but it's confusing. You see e.g. Calendar and when you press the soft key File explorer runs...

2. There you go..."every cellphone can wake up". But you have to get used to the thought that this is a pocket PC and no cellphone. Every cellphone is still running and using battery power, even when switched off, so the alarm can go off. Windows mobile and also Symbian S60 are operating systems that must boot first before the phone is active. When a pocket PC is switched off, it is really off. This is no bug and no update will ever fix this.
3. It was confusing for me too at first, because this is my first touch-screen phone. But after a while I got used to it and like it as it is. I have the buttons on the screen and then I have the two programmable buttons -with them I open the START-button and rotate the screen.
EDIT: I press the "Flight mode" button on the SE-Panel before going to sleep, so all connections are disabled but the alarm goes off. This mode hardly need any power but the alarm will go off when needed. So you can compare this with the "power off" mode on former cellphones.

skycamefalling said:
2. There you go..."every cellphone can wake up". But you have to get used to the thought that this is a pocket PC and no cellphone. Every cellphone is still running and using battery power, even when switched off, so the alarm can go off. Windows mobile and also Symbian S60 are operating systems that must boot first before the phone is active. When a pocket PC is switched off, it is really off. This is no bug and no update will ever fix this.
3. It was confusing for me too at first, because this is my first touch-screen phone. But after a while I got used to it and like it as it is. I have the buttons on the screen and then I have the two programmable buttons -with them I open the START-button and rotate the screen.
EDIT: I press the "Flight mode" button on the SE-Panel before going to sleep, so all connections are disabled but the alarm goes off. This mode hardly need any power but the alarm will go off when needed. So you can compare this with the "power off" mode on former cellphones.
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2. Every Nokia I had (Communicators, N95) turned on by its self when the alarm time met. Also all HTC phones (with windows) do that. I also had QTEK 9000. The same thing. Windows mobile but it turned it's self on. This is the first time I see this in a phone and it's unacceptable. Oh well ! I thought the option of Flight mode but I didn't want to believe that a phone in 2009 could not "power on" by its self. Nevertheless I strongly believe that this is a bug and it will be corrected...
3. Thanks !
Thank you skycamefalling for your answers...

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2. There you go..."every cellphone can wake up". But you have to get used to the thought that this is a pocket PC and no cellphone. Every cellphone is still running and using battery power, even when switched off, so the alarm can go off. Windows mobile and also Symbian S60 are operating systems that must boot first before the phone is active. When a pocket PC is switched off, it is really off. This is no bug and no update will ever fix this.
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little veto here.
Symbian is a CELLPHONE OS. therefore the alarm does work since its always running even of the phone is turned off.
Windows mobile was not intended to be a cellphone OS. it just received a small update. therefor ... device turnoed off = 0 power usage ... well close too ^^
its not a bug. its neither intended. its just a non existing feature. and since it would use some extra hardware (check alarm/clock and start phone) u probably wont get this feature at all.
btw ... why in the world would i want to turn my phone off
PS: keep in mind that u bought a Pocket PC with cellphone features and not vise versa!

Hmmm...my N95 of the first generation definitly did not power itself when the alarm should go off therefore I thought this is an issue with S60 too. So I stand corrected...maybe they fixed this in a later firmware update.

skycamefalling said:
Hmmm...my N95 of the first generation definitly did not power itself when the alarm should go off therefore I thought this is an issue with S60 too. So I stand corrected...maybe they fixed this in a later firmware update.
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it did, or at least all symbian phones i ever had since 2002 so far did .
but like i said, symbian is made for cellphones.
while Windows mobile was just a windows for pocket devices. i dont know any PC wich boots automaticly up just u set an alarm under WIndows.

Th30d0sis said:
Hello to everyone. I have a few questions...
3. The programmable Soft Keys. Just above them at the bar it says Calendar and Contacts. But the Soft Keys run other applications because we have programmed them to. Is there a way the bar above them to reflect the Soft Key's programs and not Calendar and Contact ?
Thanks for your time...
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To be clear about this, as one of the posts above says, there are actually four (4) options here, all of them easily changeable:
1) the two "soft keys" at the very bottom of the touch screen (Contacts and Calendar by default) are able to be assigned to any installed app that has a shortcut - I'm running TC and an Expense Diary on my device
Just use (eg) http://mobile-sg.com/software/?p=KeySwop&platform=ppc
There are a number of these freeware programs, the one I've linked is just one of them
2) the two "hardware keys" directly below the touch screen are assignable in the Buttons app (Start>Settings>Personal). It's just that they are also called "software keys" in the Buttons menu choices, which is where I think the confusion here lies.
I've also re-assigned these two to functions quite separate to the defaults (left one rotates the screen, right one brings up my 3rd party contacts database)

When you turn the X1 off (and virtually all winmo ppcs since they changed the memory type) OFF really does mean OFF
From what I remember in the early days of PPCs if you turned off your device it wiped the memory so the device went into standby instead. it was frustrating to say the least.
If you want an alarm to work then put the x1 into standby then the alarm works rather than turn it off.
If the x1 isn't having enough wake up time to trigger the alarm when resuming from standby you can try increasing that setting using something like Advanced config. Mine works on stock.
Pcs can usually only be set to wake at a set time through the bios can't they? I can't imagine how a device would be able to use the operating system calls when the OS wasn't even loaded..

skycamefalling said:
Hmmm...my N95 of the first generation definitly did not power itself when the alarm should go off therefore I thought this is an issue with S60 too. So I stand corrected...maybe they fixed this in a later firmware update.
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Actually you're wrong. It's not a bug, they'll not fix it.
It was identicall with all of my UIQ/Symbian SE smartphones.
But what the heck is the problem with just using flight mode? It's so convinient, just cut off all the connections, alarm runs great.
I would not expect my device to start the complex booting action just to ring the alarm and than turn itself off again.

fards said:
Pcs can usually only be set to wake at a set time through the bios can't they? I can't imagine how a device would be able to use the operating system calls when the OS wasn't even loaded..
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bootup args!
that probably wont be much of a problem. but u need soem hardware which checks clock settings and actualy boot up the device. but thats all kind of expensive considering u just want to ring an alarm.
Symbian phones have a total different hardware structure and this feature is allready somewhat build-in

Ok guys. I stand corrected. I thought that alarm clock can actually "wake up" phone. Thanks everybody !

All programs close when screen goes black

Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??

Dipper60 said:
Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
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Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power

Fallen Spartan said:
Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
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Yeah i know, but it only turn the lights down, not turn the screen off. It's only if i choose to turn off the device the screen turns off.

I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.

shuflie said:
I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me

Dipper60 said:
Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
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Just tried the screen off when phone is face down and it doesn't seem to be working for me either for some reason. But the stylus in event is working fine, just pop the stylus out and put it back in again and the screen goes completely off without killing the processes in the background (can still explore phone with active sync). I wouldn't want to mess with the power button as that is really useful to provide a proper device suspend when I want it.

I have a similar problem but with the GPS.
I have raised the question here, on some other forums and directly to HTC.
From HTC I got the answer that it is done by design to minimize battery drain and that they would have many angry costumers complaining about low battery life.
The only solution I know of so far is to use a 3rd party app.
I use "screenoff" and everytime I use the GPS I go to advanced-power and uncheck all the boxes.
When I'm done using the GPS I check the boxes again, otherwise I'll have to remember to turn the screen off manually everytime in "normal" usage of the phone.
I think it's sad though on such an expensive device not to have the option to run programs and hardware in sleep mode.
I'd rather find a solution where I can push the power button as usual and where I can have the boxes in advanced-power checked all the time.

I managed to get gyrator to turn the screen off by flipping face down, just needed to put the screen off command before all the rotation disable commands. Now if I want to disable the screen I just have to flip it face down for a second or so.

Thx for all your help.
But i found out that it's not only when the screen turns off everything closes. If i just leave it on home screen for like 2 min. everything also closes down.
I've heard from another forum that it's something HTC has decided to do to keep on the battery....
I don't know if there is anything to do here then??

Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.

shuflie said:
Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Done that... Still closes everything after around 2. min....

Strange, doesn't do that on mine.

shuflie said:
Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
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I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!

I'm just testing it again to make sure. Have a track playing in the HTC music app and I'm signed in to messenger. Screen is off and I'm waiting for 3 mins to make sure.

Fallen Spartan said:
I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
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That was going to be my next suggestion, really doesn't sound like normal operation to me. So hardreset and install one app at a time until you find out what is messing things up for you. 3 mins are up and track is still playing and I'm still signed in to messenger.

Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/

Magster said:
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
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I will try that
But do you guys think it could be some settings in the ROM? Should i try another one or what do i do when you say it isn't normal for the phone?