Questions. Do we have answers ? - XPERIA X1 General

Hello to everyone. I have a few questions...
1. When we hold the reject call button pressed the device keys lock. Is there an option to autolock the device keys let's say in 1 minute ?
2. What's going on with the alarm clock ? When the device is turned off the alarm clock can't "wake" (turn the power on) the phone and you lose the alarm. Is there a solution ? G-Alarm or Spb Time no good...
3. The programmable Soft Keys. Just above them at the bar it says Calendar and Contacts. But the Soft Keys run other applications because we have programmed them to. Is there a way the bar above them to reflect the Soft Key's programs and not Calendar and Contact ?
Thanks for your time...

1. Use S2U2
2. Of course the alarm can't ring when the device is switched off. What did you expect? It's turned off! No power, no boot, no ring. Your home computer won't ring either if you disconnect the power supply.
3. No, it's not. Because these buttons do not belong together. You have 4 buttons to use, otherwise you just would have 2 -it's much better this way.
However, you can do other way around and program the softkeys to do what the buttons on the screen tell you. START --> SETTINGS --> BUTTONS

skycamefalling said:
1. Use S2U2
2. Of course the alarm can't ring when the device is switched off. What did you expect? It's turned off! No power, no boot, no ring. Your home computer won't ring either if you disconnect the power supply.
3. No, it's not. Because these buttons do not belong together. You have 4 buttons to use, otherwise you just would have 2 -it's much better this way.
However, you can do other way around and program the softkeys to do what the buttons on the screen tell you. START --> SETTINGS --> BUTTONS
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1. THANKS !
2. Every cellphone can "wake up" and power on by its self when the defined alarm time is met. And then the alarm goes off so you can wake up. That's default from the first cellphone that ever came out. This is a bug and no software can fix this. I have tried G-Alarm and Spb Time. I guess i have to wait the update...
3. Yes I agree but it's confusing. You see e.g. Calendar and when you press the soft key File explorer runs...

2. There you go..."every cellphone can wake up". But you have to get used to the thought that this is a pocket PC and no cellphone. Every cellphone is still running and using battery power, even when switched off, so the alarm can go off. Windows mobile and also Symbian S60 are operating systems that must boot first before the phone is active. When a pocket PC is switched off, it is really off. This is no bug and no update will ever fix this.
3. It was confusing for me too at first, because this is my first touch-screen phone. But after a while I got used to it and like it as it is. I have the buttons on the screen and then I have the two programmable buttons -with them I open the START-button and rotate the screen.
EDIT: I press the "Flight mode" button on the SE-Panel before going to sleep, so all connections are disabled but the alarm goes off. This mode hardly need any power but the alarm will go off when needed. So you can compare this with the "power off" mode on former cellphones.

skycamefalling said:
2. There you go..."every cellphone can wake up". But you have to get used to the thought that this is a pocket PC and no cellphone. Every cellphone is still running and using battery power, even when switched off, so the alarm can go off. Windows mobile and also Symbian S60 are operating systems that must boot first before the phone is active. When a pocket PC is switched off, it is really off. This is no bug and no update will ever fix this.
3. It was confusing for me too at first, because this is my first touch-screen phone. But after a while I got used to it and like it as it is. I have the buttons on the screen and then I have the two programmable buttons -with them I open the START-button and rotate the screen.
EDIT: I press the "Flight mode" button on the SE-Panel before going to sleep, so all connections are disabled but the alarm goes off. This mode hardly need any power but the alarm will go off when needed. So you can compare this with the "power off" mode on former cellphones.
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2. Every Nokia I had (Communicators, N95) turned on by its self when the alarm time met. Also all HTC phones (with windows) do that. I also had QTEK 9000. The same thing. Windows mobile but it turned it's self on. This is the first time I see this in a phone and it's unacceptable. Oh well ! I thought the option of Flight mode but I didn't want to believe that a phone in 2009 could not "power on" by its self. Nevertheless I strongly believe that this is a bug and it will be corrected...
3. Thanks !
Thank you skycamefalling for your answers...

skycamefalling said:
2. There you go..."every cellphone can wake up". But you have to get used to the thought that this is a pocket PC and no cellphone. Every cellphone is still running and using battery power, even when switched off, so the alarm can go off. Windows mobile and also Symbian S60 are operating systems that must boot first before the phone is active. When a pocket PC is switched off, it is really off. This is no bug and no update will ever fix this.
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little veto here.
Symbian is a CELLPHONE OS. therefore the alarm does work since its always running even of the phone is turned off.
Windows mobile was not intended to be a cellphone OS. it just received a small update. therefor ... device turnoed off = 0 power usage ... well close too ^^
its not a bug. its neither intended. its just a non existing feature. and since it would use some extra hardware (check alarm/clock and start phone) u probably wont get this feature at all.
btw ... why in the world would i want to turn my phone off
PS: keep in mind that u bought a Pocket PC with cellphone features and not vise versa!

Hmmm...my N95 of the first generation definitly did not power itself when the alarm should go off therefore I thought this is an issue with S60 too. So I stand corrected...maybe they fixed this in a later firmware update.

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Hmmm...my N95 of the first generation definitly did not power itself when the alarm should go off therefore I thought this is an issue with S60 too. So I stand corrected...maybe they fixed this in a later firmware update.
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it did, or at least all symbian phones i ever had since 2002 so far did .
but like i said, symbian is made for cellphones.
while Windows mobile was just a windows for pocket devices. i dont know any PC wich boots automaticly up just u set an alarm under WIndows.

Th30d0sis said:
Hello to everyone. I have a few questions...
3. The programmable Soft Keys. Just above them at the bar it says Calendar and Contacts. But the Soft Keys run other applications because we have programmed them to. Is there a way the bar above them to reflect the Soft Key's programs and not Calendar and Contact ?
Thanks for your time...
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To be clear about this, as one of the posts above says, there are actually four (4) options here, all of them easily changeable:
1) the two "soft keys" at the very bottom of the touch screen (Contacts and Calendar by default) are able to be assigned to any installed app that has a shortcut - I'm running TC and an Expense Diary on my device
Just use (eg) http://mobile-sg.com/software/?p=KeySwop&platform=ppc
There are a number of these freeware programs, the one I've linked is just one of them
2) the two "hardware keys" directly below the touch screen are assignable in the Buttons app (Start>Settings>Personal). It's just that they are also called "software keys" in the Buttons menu choices, which is where I think the confusion here lies.
I've also re-assigned these two to functions quite separate to the defaults (left one rotates the screen, right one brings up my 3rd party contacts database)

When you turn the X1 off (and virtually all winmo ppcs since they changed the memory type) OFF really does mean OFF
From what I remember in the early days of PPCs if you turned off your device it wiped the memory so the device went into standby instead. it was frustrating to say the least.
If you want an alarm to work then put the x1 into standby then the alarm works rather than turn it off.
If the x1 isn't having enough wake up time to trigger the alarm when resuming from standby you can try increasing that setting using something like Advanced config. Mine works on stock.
Pcs can usually only be set to wake at a set time through the bios can't they? I can't imagine how a device would be able to use the operating system calls when the OS wasn't even loaded..

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Hmmm...my N95 of the first generation definitly did not power itself when the alarm should go off therefore I thought this is an issue with S60 too. So I stand corrected...maybe they fixed this in a later firmware update.
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Actually you're wrong. It's not a bug, they'll not fix it.
It was identicall with all of my UIQ/Symbian SE smartphones.
But what the heck is the problem with just using flight mode? It's so convinient, just cut off all the connections, alarm runs great.
I would not expect my device to start the complex booting action just to ring the alarm and than turn itself off again.

fards said:
Pcs can usually only be set to wake at a set time through the bios can't they? I can't imagine how a device would be able to use the operating system calls when the OS wasn't even loaded..
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bootup args!
that probably wont be much of a problem. but u need soem hardware which checks clock settings and actualy boot up the device. but thats all kind of expensive considering u just want to ring an alarm.
Symbian phones have a total different hardware structure and this feature is allready somewhat build-in

Ok guys. I stand corrected. I thought that alarm clock can actually "wake up" phone. Thanks everybody !

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How to turn off magician?

how the hell do you turn off the device, if i press the power button once the screen goes completely black and i cannot tap anything but i can still recieve calls and if i press any of the buttons it comes alive. if i press and continue pressing for two seconds, the screen simply dims and i can still tap on the screen?
so how do you switch it off?
and if you reset how do you prevent it from loading the T-Mobile customization?
Also, mine has a dead pixel and i have just opened it can i take it back as faulty? it's only one dead pixel but it's really really annoying...does it count as a fault. i'm gonna try and take mine back tomorrow
A short press turns the unit off
A longer press will shut down the backlight, but leave the unit on
Longkesh said:
A short press turns the unit off
A longer press will shut down the backlight, but leave the unit on
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Well, when i do that the screen goes blank but i can still recieve calls and if i press any of the buttons it goes back on again!!!!!!!!!!!!
To totaly turn off the device you need to slide the battery lock button out and then back in. It is the only way I have found to totaly turn the device off.
To lock the keys go into "settings" then "system" and choose "button lock" then choose "Lock all buttons except power button".
John
oh, i see. i thought it was like the other phones, nokia SE etc.
thanks alot for all your replies
thank you
this is not a phone, this is a pdaphone, it works like a pda... if you want tu turn off the phone, you can use the flight mode.
sayreul said:
this is not a phone, this is a pdaphone, it works like a pda... if you want tu turn off the phone, you can use the flight mode.
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I dont think it has anyhting to do with PDA. I have had 3 PDA's before. All of them had an "off" button that turned the thing off. Ditto for phones. So this is just Microsoft's strange decision. Dont make the guy feel back just because he is thinking logically - and they are not.
I've had quite a few PDAs over the years:- Casio E80? Psion 3, 3a, 3c, 5, 5mx, iPaq 3630, XDAI, XDAII, MDA Compact.
None of them have ever had an off button. They turn off the screen and may even slow the processor or put it in sleep mode. But they all kept their memory powered up and clock / alarms / appointments alive at all times.
This may change in the future as flash ram is now fast enough that you could actually run stuff from it so you could truly kill power (apart from clock and wakeup stuff) without emptying your memory.
My old Visor Edge, Palm Tungsten T, T2 and TE all had off buttons. I dont know of any electronic device where anyone should expect that the "off" botton doesn't turn it off.
If that button on Windows Mobile devices is a "sleep" button, then they should mark it with a "sleep" symbol, rather than the intl symbol for "power", which is what they have on there - and which is what confuses people.
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My old Visor Edge, Palm Tungsten T, T2 and TE all had off buttons. I dont know of any electronic device where anyone should expect that the "off" botton doesn't turn it off.
If that button on Windows Mobile devices is a "sleep" button, then they should mark it with a "sleep" symbol, rather than the intl symbol for "power", which is what they have on there - and which is what confuses people.
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So, if your Palm completely powered down when you pressed this magic "off" button, how come the alarms still worked? How come it woke up when you pressed any of the four application buttons or tapped the screen? How come your data was still kept in RAM?
More wisdom from the skagen...
My Nokia 6100 has an off button and it works. Doesn't stop my alarms from waking me up. So did my SE T610 before that
Everybody here has had a cell phone before. The all have "off" buttons that turn the device off. Only Microsoft, in its infinite stupidity, has decided to have a an "off" button that should in fact be labelled "sleep".
You are the one with no clue.
If you press the "off" button on your N 6100 or SE T610 you are right in that they would really be off. You can not receive a call, any alarms will not sound until you turn the phone on again and so on.
But this is not so for most PDA:s on the market.
Most PDA:s will go into some kind of sleep mode when you press the "off" button. And mostly it is not even a true sleep mode, a lot of processes are still running, and even network connections can be kept active. This is also the way most PDA users would want their PDA to work. Also, the way most PDA:s are built, a power down means resetting everything back to defaults and thereby loosing all of your data and third party applications. This could be cured by using non volatile RAM for all of the memory, but I guess there is probably a good reason why this is not normally done.
Actually, on most modern computers a short tap on the power button will put them in suspend mode and holding it for more than two seconds will turn them off. So the only thing that is really strange with the PDA is that a long press on the button will not even put it in sleep mode but only shut off power to the display. And as I actually don't know anyone that has ever used that worthless function I think they should probably replace it with a "real" sleep mode, where all of the hardware is actually shut off except for support voltage to keep the memory "alive".
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If you press the "off" button on your N 6100 or SE T610 you are right in that they would really be off. You can not receive a call, any alarms will not sound until you turn the phone on again and so on.
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On N 6100 ,and on all nokia phones, the clock alarm wake's up the phone... You then have a choice of whether to activate the phone or not...
Same with all the Siemens phones I owned ( 4 so far). When shutting off the phone, the clock and alarms keep working. The only thing that does not work, off course, is the radio so incoming calls are diverted to voice mail. But with the phone off, the alarms still wake me up!
It would indeed be a good idea if using the power button on any type of XDA would turn the device really off, using power only for keeping the clock working and the data stored...
If the alarms jeep working on your phone when in "off" mode it is not actually off but in a low power mode with the phone functions turned off. So what you are really asking for is that the power button should turn off the phone but keep the pda running. This seems quite useless to me. Exactly how often are you in such a hurry to turn off the phone?
Yes, the device is in sleep mode, but it is a very deep sleep indeed, since it uses close to zero power. When I put my Compact in sleep mode, running programs will not shut down but will stay running, the Today screen is still running and the same goes for the phone radio and GPRS. This means that the battery drains much quicker. So in order to save power, I have to turn off the radio (flight mode), kill running apps and then put the device to sleep with the power button. Seems like rather a hassle, doesn't it, compared to a normal phone? So I don't mean for the PDA to keep running ful operations, but rather to power down to a level where it only uses a little power to keep the storage working. And when waking up, I don't need to see the Today right away, a few seconds loading the screen like on a normal phone is worth the power save to me.
skagen said:
My Nokia 6100 has an off button and it works. Doesn't stop my alarms from waking me up. So did my SE T610 before that
Everybody here has had a cell phone before. The all have "off" buttons that turn the device off. Only Microsoft, in its infinite stupidity, has decided to have a an "off" button that should in fact be labelled "sleep".
You are the one with no clue.
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This guy is unbelievable. You were claiming that your Palm turned completely off when you hit the off button - not a cellphone, jerk.
Koksie said:
When I put my Compact in sleep mode, running programs will not shut down but will stay running, the Today screen is still running and the same goes for the phone radio and GPRS. This means that the battery drains much quicker. So in order to save power, I have to turn off the radio (flight mode), kill running apps and then put the device to sleep with the power button.
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Wrong - programs that can be _are_ suspended when you put the PDA into standby. Try it with MediaPlayer.
How do you know the Today screen is still running? Like you know the fridge light really stays on when you shut the door?
Wouldn't you be complaining more (because of the missed calls) if turning the PDA off to save the battery also killed the phone?
Most of us can get our heads round this - the Standby button on the side controls the PDA. The Flight mode controls the phone. Not exactly difficult, is it?
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And when waking up, I don't need to see the Today right away, a few seconds loading the screen like on a normal phone is worth the power save to me.
That's where you fall into sjkagen's trap, again. For the zillionth time, the Jam/Compact is not just a phone. It's primarily a PDA. That's why it costs so much more than a phone. And on a PDA, you need to be able to look up information instantly - not have to wait a minute for the darn thing to boot up.
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skagen said:
My Nokia 6100 has an off button and it works. Doesn't stop my alarms from waking me up. So did my SE T610 before that
Everybody here has had a cell phone before. The all have "off" buttons that turn the device off. Only Microsoft, in its infinite stupidity, has decided to have a an "off" button that should in fact be labelled "sleep".
You are the one with no clue.
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Oh skagen, how ignorant you are. Seems you cannot understand pictures, let alone words.
The label on the Jam "off" button is a line through a broken circle, which is the IEC symbol for STANDBY, not POWER OFF. Just like on all other PDAs, and your TV remote control.
See
http://eetd.lbl.gov/Controls/overview/symbols1.pdf
Now look again at all your "phones" which completely shut down when you press the "power" button. What symbol do they have?
Seeing as you obviously have so much difficulty telling the difference between a cellphone and a Palm, a phone and a PocketPC, or a power switch from a standby button, here's another teaser for you.
1. How do cellphones manage to keep their memory when they are turned off or the battery is removed?
2. What is the difference between the memory in cellphone and that in most PDAs?
3. Why do most PDAs have Standby (Soft Off) and not Power (Hard Off) buttons?
Wow, seems like some people are getting really sensitive when I call the Magician a phone... Sorry if I insulted you guys, it is just that I compare it to a phone because I use it for that the most, but I do understand that it is actually much more than that!
I have no problems with the way the sleep button works, it is ok for me, I just wanted to say that there are other possibilities that could have been used to map the button to. Especially since some people would have liked the button to work more "phone wise". But since it is primarily a PDA, I see that this current application is the most logical thing for the button to do.
BTW you are totally right that most running apps are termintated when pushing the power button. Although WMP stays active in the running programs menu, the music is cut off. However, since the prog stays loaded, does this consume more power than shutting it down completey (e.g. with SPB Pocket Plus)?
I think the Today screen stays loaded BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT THERE AFTER WAKE UP, just as you say: it does not have to be booted first. BTW: I have a little window in my fridge door to check wether the light goes off .
And please guys, don't call each other jerks or ignorant just because someone's questions or remarks anoy you. Reply polite or don't reply at all!

MAGICIAN PROBLEM-BRIGHT DOWN WHEN SWITCHED OFF

Hi everybody!,
I'm really pleased with my new magician, but I have a little problem.
When I push the on/off button to switch the screen off (the phone is still on), and I want to switch it on again, the screen has the bright level at its minimum, so I can't see anything, and I have to go settings to raise the bright again.
Any known solution?
thanks,
Pau
Hi Pau,
When you press the power short your magician will go in standby. Press power long to dimm the screen, press it long again to switch to normal brightness. You can switch off the phone function by putting it into flight-mode. That's why the phone profile apps are popular.
A PocketPC can't be switched of complete. You would turn of all PDA functions as well, so no reminders etc. Not exactly what you expect from a PDA.
Hope this helps you. When your problem with the brightness persists, then try a hard-reset (press power & soft-reset at same time), don't forget to backup first with Sprite (trial available) or simular, xbackup can give you problems restoring contacts&appointments.
Still problems? Go back to where you bought it & get another one.
M
Thank you very much, it works the way you explain !!!!
thanks
You're welcome, these simple things are questioning all new users, including myself .
M
this helped me realise that there is no real SHUTDOWN option on the phone Till now i thought my phone was messed up
Damn for 3 days i was reading the whole Manual, and thought i cnat switch it off, there is phone porblem why the hell they indicate in Manual press more then 2 sec and it trurns it off. Now I know why lol :lol:
Btw which application can turn it off with one click on today screen without going in to flight mode etc ?
Thanks
You can use VJEschaton for it, SPB Pocket Plus etc etc. They all can suspend or switch off the screen with a single click on the today screen.
M
oltp said:
You can use VJEschaton for it, SPB Pocket Plus etc etc. They all can suspend or switch off the screen with a single click on the today screen.
M
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Or also you can use psShutXp it's free and it's a great program
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You can use VJEschaton for it, SPB Pocket Plus etc etc. They all can suspend or switch off the screen with a single click on the today screen.
M
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Thaks for the reply I dont see Turn off in Pocket plus, I oly have Suspend and Sof Reset, where is that item ?
Skyward what do psShutXp do ? as i dont want to install thoussand of applications as I already have pocket plus installed
Thanks
There's no 'off' regarding your device. Suspend is the same as pressing the power button. I always use the 'screen toggle' option from spb (located in system like the suspend & soft reset option)
Cheers, M

How long does it take to your tytn to wake up?

Hello
My tytn require a quite large amount of time to wake up and I was wondering if I was the only one in this case.
It may require from 2 to 4 seconds to recover from standby; I tried to phone myself and it took about one or 2 "tuuuut" (sorry, no better english translation for that word =)) before the phone began to ring; this is quite anoying because I have to answer very fast in order not to miss call.
The virtual keyboard used for inputing the code is also getting on my nerv; most of the time it start with the landscape layout (without any reason) and it take 2 sec to adjust to the portrait layout; during that time it is hard for me to input my code correctly because the size of the key is changing.
So, 2-4 seconds for waking up plus 2 seconds for keyboard adjustement is in my opinion quite slow. Am I the only one experiencing this? Are there fixes out there?
I also have some trouble with notification; it wake the device up! If the device is not password protected (only after 15 minutes on my phone) it start most of the time PIE (because of the hardware button). All this lead so to my second question: Is there a way not to wake up the device (at least the input) in order to avoid unwanted press on the hardwares buttons.
Thank you in advance !
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Is there a way not to wake up the device (at least the input) in order to avoid unwanted press on the hardwares buttons.
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Settings -> System -> Key Lock -> When device is off: "Lock all buttons except Power button"
Thanks for your fast answer, i ll give a try!
Concerning the screen orientation issue I found out that it is related to the HTC case magnet.
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In fact it was already configured like this; the device is not waked up by the hardware buttons, but by the notifications.
if you use the key lock you can avoid unwanted key presses. As for wake up times. I don't think anyone who has this device wants to admit that it takes to long cause they paid sooo much for it. However, I will admit that it does take a long time to wake up. I am comfortable saying this because its much like a turbo car, at first its not as fast as most naturally aspirated cars (turbo lag), then it blows their doors off. So it takes a couple seconds to wake up, then its faster then most other devices.
Later, Lew
Agreed. Coming from standby I get two rings of the "Old Phone" ringtone before it goes to voice mail.
I am hoping that new firmware will resolve this issue - my wizard was certainly more responsive when i presses the poer button to bring it out of standby. This is furthur delayed by the fact that i keep scabbling around the top of the device for the power button insted of the side!
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Settings -> System -> Key Lock -> When device is off: "Lock all buttons except Power button"
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This doesn't help with the particular problem. What I think fun_key is trying to say is that whenever he gets a notification (for example when he gets a new sms message or a notification for a meeting) the phone will come out of sleep mode, so the key lock setting for "when device is off" won't be in effect. Instead the device will be powered up and accepting all keypresses, like the IE / Messaging- buttons, not to mention any presses on the screen.
I too find this annoying, and wish there was a way to make the phone go back to sleep after showing me a notification, instead of waiting for the default sleep time to go by. There are programs out there that have this functionality (for example MortSaver) though, so my advice would be to use those.
- Pud.0
thank for the mortsaver ip; i ll give a try!
Have exactly the same problems as fun_key (power button, keyboard in landscape, etc), and I suspect most of other people do. The wizard was definitely more responsive.
fun_key said:
It may require from 2 to 4 seconds to recover from standby; I tried to phone myself and it took about one or 2 "tuuuut" (sorry, no better english translation for that word =)) before the phone began to ring; this is quite anoying because I have to answer very fast in order not to miss call.QUOTE]
I've found a solution to the problem regarding the length of time before a call is missed (this is probably known by most people, I only found it after tinkering with the settings):
Start>Settings>Phone>Services(Tab). Choose Call Forwarding in the list, then click Get Settings. Change the 'Forward After' setting to a higher number. I changed mine to 25 seconds. Problem solved for me!
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g00nerz said:
fun_key said:
It may require from 2 to 4 seconds to recover from standby; I tried to phone myself and it took about one or 2 "tuuuut" (sorry, no better english translation for that word =)) before the phone began to ring; this is quite anoying because I have to answer very fast in order not to miss call.QUOTE]
I've found a solution to the problem regarding the length of time before a call is missed (this is probably known by most people, I only found it after tinkering with the settings):
Start>Settings>Phone>Services(Tab). Choose Call Forwarding in the list, then click Get Settings. Change the 'Forward After' setting to a higher number. I changed mine to 25 seconds. Problem solved for me!
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Glad your problem is solved. Perhaps others may find the following of note as well as your solution above:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-258109.html
Mike
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Hi team
I have the same issue, every time i turn my hermes on after its been off for more than say 30seconds it starts in landscape mode then switches to portraite mode, its driving me mad, at least i now know i am not the only person. maybe this will be fixed in the next rom update, fingers crossed aye
UPDATE: i also found this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286552&highlight=standby+landscape
does anyone have any thoughts on his comments?
I actually think that the reply in the thread i posted above is correct,
My Hermes is an IMATE JASJAM (same thing of course) and i use the original belt holder that came with it, it has two (2) magnets in it to keep the cover shut, when ever i get a msg and i pull it out of the case (turns on automatically to show me the msg) its always comes out in landscape mode.
I turned my phone on and passed the cover with magnet side down over the phone and sure enough as i did that the screen changed from portrait to landscape mode, thus confirming its the magnet that causes it and not a defect with the phone.

Tool to keep display OFF!

My phone is always waking up for odd reasons (AVRCP commands, switching in and out of roaming, etc...), and I can't seem to get the darned thing to stay OFF.
Music A2DP streaming is the biggest deal to me, because not only will the device wake up when I press a remote command (on my AVRCP headset), it will also keep the device backlight on indefinitely. This is clearly shortening my battery.
I tried Slide2Unlock, and have it set to shut off the display if no activity for 5 sec., but the problem is that Slide2Unlock appears to not notice when it is woken up, and just sits there without turning the screen back off again! (a simple screen press brings Slide2U back to life, and then it will toggle the screen... but this defeats the purpose!)
There must be SOMETHING I'm missing here... doesn't anyone else have this problem???
I have 2 things for you. The first, is if you're using WM6 that's a known issue and unchecking the today timeout in start-->settings-->today-->items tab should solve most of your problems. The second is a little program that I found (not sure where at , but it might have been on here) called screen off. Install it and then set it to a hardware button and it will allow you to turn just your screen off whenever you don't need it on.
Maybe it depends on the player you're using? With Coreplayer, my phone's screen just flashes on and off quickly when it receives an AVRCP command.
Still doesn't explain the roaming thing though.
xeno1 said:
I have 2 things for you. The first, is if you're using WM6 that's a known issue and unchecking the today timeout in start-->settings-->today-->items tab should solve most of your problems. The second is a little program that I found (not sure where at , but it might have been on here) called screen off. Install it and then set it to a hardware button and it will allow you to turn just your screen off whenever you don't need it on.
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Yes, I'm using WM6 on a HTC Titan (Sprint Mogul).
I don't currently timeout to the today screen, but I don't see how that would cause my problem really- I've heard people mention that before, so can anyone explain what difference that would make?
I already have a shortcut to screen toggle (wrote my own MortScript to do it). That's not a problem anyway since every media player can assign a button to toggle the screen- The problem is that it keeps turning the screen back on when a button is pressed no matter how many times I toggle!!
Plastriq, I've heard that coreplayer does that... that's how they deal with this problem. They're the only ones that have addressed it as far as I know, and I'm not about to pay for their app when I already have TCPMP and WMP for free.
I just can't believe that there haven't been more practical ways around this yet!

All programs close when screen goes black

Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
Dipper60 said:
Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
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Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
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Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
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Yeah i know, but it only turn the lights down, not turn the screen off. It's only if i choose to turn off the device the screen turns off.
I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
Dipper60 said:
Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
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Just tried the screen off when phone is face down and it doesn't seem to be working for me either for some reason. But the stylus in event is working fine, just pop the stylus out and put it back in again and the screen goes completely off without killing the processes in the background (can still explore phone with active sync). I wouldn't want to mess with the power button as that is really useful to provide a proper device suspend when I want it.
I have a similar problem but with the GPS.
I have raised the question here, on some other forums and directly to HTC.
From HTC I got the answer that it is done by design to minimize battery drain and that they would have many angry costumers complaining about low battery life.
The only solution I know of so far is to use a 3rd party app.
I use "screenoff" and everytime I use the GPS I go to advanced-power and uncheck all the boxes.
When I'm done using the GPS I check the boxes again, otherwise I'll have to remember to turn the screen off manually everytime in "normal" usage of the phone.
I think it's sad though on such an expensive device not to have the option to run programs and hardware in sleep mode.
I'd rather find a solution where I can push the power button as usual and where I can have the boxes in advanced-power checked all the time.
I managed to get gyrator to turn the screen off by flipping face down, just needed to put the screen off command before all the rotation disable commands. Now if I want to disable the screen I just have to flip it face down for a second or so.
Thx for all your help.
But i found out that it's not only when the screen turns off everything closes. If i just leave it on home screen for like 2 min. everything also closes down.
I've heard from another forum that it's something HTC has decided to do to keep on the battery....
I don't know if there is anything to do here then??
Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Done that... Still closes everything after around 2. min....
Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
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Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
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I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
I'm just testing it again to make sure. Have a track playing in the HTC music app and I'm signed in to messenger. Screen is off and I'm waiting for 3 mins to make sure.
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I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
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That was going to be my next suggestion, really doesn't sound like normal operation to me. So hardreset and install one app at a time until you find out what is messing things up for you. 3 mins are up and track is still playing and I'm still signed in to messenger.
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
Magster said:
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
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I will try that
But do you guys think it could be some settings in the ROM? Should i try another one or what do i do when you say it isn't normal for the phone?

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