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I have my SPV M1000 now for 2 weeks and today for the second time all my installed programs and data where lost.
The first time the phone’s OS (I think)was hanging ...so…soft reset....data gone..
Second time the main battery was low (but not the backup battery) and after charging the battery all standard programs from Orange automatically where installed? and my data was lost.
Anybody an solution?
What sort of programs did/do you have installed? After the first reset did you then install the same programs again? knowing this can help rule out any software causing these problems.
May be a faulty unit and may have to go back, but try to eliminate the software first. Have you upgraded anything since getting the phone?
Cheers
Anthony
Only add an 1gb sd card, and I used the xda2unlock to remove the orange lock from the phone.
Programs:
Tom tom
nPOP
Betaplayer
4Pinball
Syswatch
Microsoft.Voice.Command
Spb GPRS Monitor
SPV LOCKS UP AND REST WITH ALL DATA LOST
I HAVE A SPV M1000 ORANGE FRANCE WHICH WILL LOCK ITSELF UP AND NEITHER THE POWER BUTTON OR SOFT RESET HELP, I TRIED REMOVING THE BATTERY AND THE UNIT TURNS BACK ON SOMETIME, BUT WITH THE ORIGINAL SETTING AND ALL DATA LOST. THIS HAPPENS EVERY 3 OR 4 DAYS, FORTUNATELY I USE X BACKUP PROVIDED WITH THE UNIT TO RESTORE MY DATA, BUT THIS IS TIME COMSUMMING NOT TO MENTIONED ANNOYING. I HAD MY UNIT REPLACED ALREADY 3 TIMES AND IT IS STILL HAPPENING. CONFIGURATION: SD CARD 1GB AND SOFTWARE AS FOLLOWS: OMEGAONE BATTERY PACK PRO, OMEGAONE JOURNAL BAR AND SPB GPRS MONITER. IS THERE A ROM BUG WITH ORANGE SUPPLIED UNITS AS I HAVE A FRIEND WHO USES QTEK 2020 WHICH WAS PURCHASE DIRECTLY AND THEREFORE NOT SIMLOCKED WITH IDENTICAL SOFTWARE BUT WITH A 512MB SD CARD.I NOTICED A LOT OF PEOPLE POSTING IDENTICAL PROBLEM WITH THE OPERATOR PACKS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN ANSWER TO THIS PROBLEM :twisted:
I have the exact same problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I use also an 1 Gb SD card and also use "Spb gprs monitor".
Also I use Xbackup......good program!
Did you remove your Orange simlock? I did!
On a strange way it will sometimes happen after a few day....but now it's already 2 weeks ago!??!
I don't know if this an familiar bug/problem!
Best regards,
Dide
So I'm not the only one...
Well, I thought to be the only one with this stupid problem!
Unfortunately no apps like yours!
Did one of you get some news about it?
I'm with the Qtek2020 and the only answer they gave me was :"Ok, try sending it back, we will take a look!"
Bye
Carlo
Guys,
check out this post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=11559&highlight=
rgds,
Alex.
Another try...
Thanks adesalis,
I'll try!
Bye
THANKS!!
Better use Sprite Backup..
Why?
Dide said:
Why?
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it is not actually a solution but a temporary fix! as ive said in the other topics, sprite backup is way faster than xbackup plus it creates smaller backup files compared to Xbackup... very handy especially for phones that hang/ hard resets often randomly..
Simply Fixed!
Hi All of You!
First of all Thanks Very Much for all the hints you have left on this thread!
It's two weeks since my last breakdown of my Qtek 2020, no more problems, nothing unregular, simply a working PDA/Phone.
The key for me has been the removal of the "PocketPlus" plugin that checks the Free Space in the SD Card and in the in ternal memory.
Since then I'll never had that stupid reboot... but Sprite Backup is a Hand from Heaven in any case!
Bye Bye!
Carlo
AMEN!!
I have a Qtek 2020 ROM ver. 1.72.00WWE, Radio ver. 1.14.00, Protocol ver. 1337.24 ExtRom ver. 1.72.750, when I remove the battery to replace it with a charged one the device performs hard reset and I have to re-install all my programs again!! (painful) Is this normal? What should I do?
This is not normal, but I don't know what you can do about it. I am sure glad mine doesn't hard reset when I change batteries...
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Check your backup-battery. Probably is it discharged(from unknown reason coz it should be charged while the main battery is inserted)or broken. Visit a service place(or do it at your home)for replace the backup battery.
My XDA II has exactly the same problem, even though Windows reports the backup battery as having a full charge, if i remove the main battery, or the main battery dies, the backup battery fails to kick in and i loose everything.
Although this shouldnt be a problem now im using WM2005 it would still be nice to know how to replace the backup battery for my device and what battery i need to buy.
If anyone could write a quick guide or point me towards one that has been written before it would be really helpful!
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Somewhere at the Wiki's page is the hardware overview and he has there some fotos of the mainboard with description. You'll fund the battery and replace that afterwards. But before try to downgrade OS. Maybe is it a bug of WM05.
Ahh sorry I guess I didn't explain that too well, my device was doing it before I upgraded to WM2005 on both WM2003 and WM2003SE it hasn't done it on 2005 yest although thats because ive not given it chance to lol
My backup battery shows 100% when I take the main off. Have you tried taking the main battery off whith WM2005?
Is it possible that the backup battery is bad and the status showing 100% ?
To old backup battery
You probably have to old backup battery (like BIOS battery in PC)
try this:
http://www.ppctechs.com/HTC-Blue-Angel_277/repairs/Backup-Battery_628-372.htm
good luck
Mic
no not atom Live ;-)
just wanna fetchup the battery issue on Atom.* devices.
(refering from thread 290611 )
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iam hardcore-user ;-)
so the battery lasts with me just 10-15 hours (max)
but on the road ... with just phone usage (standby) the battery drains so quickly.
its just sad ... just the new o2 plus is such a cool software ...
and well tapping to death until to get where you want is also anoying ...
is there any option to use O2 Plus .. but let it runns more "battery friendly" ??
any suggestions ?
Hi, i have a Xda Atom too. Since two days, my battery drains very quickly in standby mode. It's incredible. Only 15-16 hours.
I have tried to uninstall O² PLUS. Now it's better, but i think that i have left my Pocket PC too many time on his docking station. (I can leave my Atom connecting to PC a few days in a row if i don't use it)
My battery is surely died.
CLaunch works on the Atom. If you really need Today screen shortcuts, then you can use that instead - low memory footprint, negligible hit on battery life.
(Then again, battery life on the Atom has always sucked. Even on an empty Atom, the most I could ever make it last is 1.5 days, and even then, the battery would kinda overdrain once in awhile, until I forcibly pull the battery out, and reinsert it.)
Oh, and the battery that comes with the Atom? After I discovered it was no longer holding its charge (drains 30% overnight), I switched to a third party. The Atom's original Taiwan battery isn't very good - Shame on you, O2 - this third party battery (worcell, SG, Japan-sourced cells) not only solved the strange battery drain issue - it also worked slightly better whilst at the same rating (1-2% improvement in battery drain).
Yep, it's very strange. I think i will buy a new battery. This Atom costs me a lot of money and with a battery like that, this pocket PC is totally useless.
It's just incredible.
If a member has changed his battery by a new one and can give some advices on it, or just posting a reference. Thanks in advance.
tghanks for the update on that ...
well i live in thailand .. here you can buy uncountable of batterys from diffrent manufacturers .. where the sellers not really knows what they sell ;-)
i will spread out and take a look for the japan name .... iam sure to get it here somewhere and update you here about price and possibility to ship somewhere ...
;-)
wish me luck ;-)
altf4 said:
thanks for the update on that ...
well i live in thailand .. here you can buy uncountable of batterys from diffrent manufacturers .. where the sellers not really knows what they sell ;-)
i will spread out and take a look for the japan name .... iam sure to get it here somewhere and update you here about price and possibility to ship somewhere ...
;-)
wish me luck ;-)
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I think it's important to keep this thread alive. I'm sure that is the biggest pb of this Pocket PC. It's incredible to develop a such powerful machine without thinking of battery. Thanks 0².
Gould luck altf4 !
battery for atom
i am in the Philippines, and this is a nice thread because it has opened my eyes to my recently bought atom (2nd hand of course).
I bought it from a friend of mine who was disposing it and I love the o2 phones (I previously owned a mini - 2nd hand from my sister).
This thread showed me that there are battery related problems, and I will keep all that in mind. I have two batteries - the original one and a 3rd party one.
I do have a question, however, how does one properly maintain the battery? when should I charge it? How should I charge it? etc. . . . .
Since the Atoms run on Lithium Polymer batteries, we don't have to worry about charging. Just plug it in whenever you need to charge it. Don't worry about memory effect, or full charge and discharge, and you don't need to prime or condition a new battery. Ah, the beauty of Li-Poly. You just need to full charge-discharge it like once a month to reset the battery charge gauge and make the full charge more accurate.
So O2 Plus is one of the culprits? A shame, O2 Plus has some really good functions. On my old PPC (iPaq 6365) I used vBar as my taskmanager and app closer, but on the Atom Exec I used O2 Plus. But if O2 Plus is no good, I'll try uninstalling it.
But I need a replacement for it. I can try CLaunch, though I don't really need the Today shortcuts. What I need the most is a Taskbar app, and unfortunately I found vBar to be buggy on the Atom (doesn't take the theme color, and randomly crashes) -- it's unknown whether this is an issue with WM5 or the Atom itself, or whether O2 Plus is interfering with it.
Any suggestions for a taskbar manager? I prefer something that displays battery life and lets me manage the memory by shutting down tasks. Preferably like vBar it can quick switch between tasks at the click of a button on the status bar.
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BTW -- a quick tip to save battery life: I have found that enabling the "Receive All Incoming Beams" makes my standby time a lot shorter. Make sure it's off unless you're trying to get a contact or picture or something from a fellow beamer.
I have some pretty good news to report.
I uninstalled O2 Plus and I seem to be getting better battery life already.
I fully charged my phone and pulled it out of the plug around 8:00am EST this morning. It was at 99%. Over the course of the day I received 5 SMS, sent 6 SMS, played about 15 mins worth of video on TCPMP, used BT to send over a 10MB file to another phone, did some Memmaid Cleaning and played a couple of MP3s and did various PIM tasks and used voice command all throughout and have the backlight set to 4.
And it's now 5:42pm EST and I have 78% battery life left. This bodes well, in the past I would be at like 50% battery life, and heck that's after charging the phone in the office during the day!
Very promising my phone can easily last 3 days like this with this kind of usage if the battery indicator is correct.
To compensate for O2 Plus I instaled pBar instead as my task manager/landscape mode/battery checker.
It's looking good.
This is the stuff I have on my phone:
Adobe FlashLite
TCPMP
Opera
Conduits Pocket Player
Worldmate
Atom Phone Pad
Spb Backup
Tengo Free
Resco Explorer + Today/Registry/FTP Plugin
Dynomite
Bookworm
Memmaid
O2 Keyboard driver
Worms World Party
Chess Genius
Voice Command 1.6
Code Wallet Pro
O2 Phone Plus
i do think so
I'm now using HTC device and been used a while...i found the batter life is definitely a satisfactory concern of part of HTC!! In a word, it's good...but before that i had o2 Atom, and its battery was totally disappointed....
Guys,
i found this to make the standby hours longer...not sure wat it does but no conflict with watsoever
And for task manager i always use wisbar advance
its looks nice and works wonder!! very customizable!! This ver3 used much lesser resource than the ver2 but still in beta mode and expire in less than 2 weeks
hopefully i can find a version that will not expire!!
Cheer!!
kaidi
thanks for the wonderful idea about the battery. This is my problem before..dont use also SPB mobile shell (if u want a registered copy just PM me,or serial)
try also to reflashed a new ROM created by jiggs(better the evaluation version 1st-there is sms issue in final), fast and stable. Use XCPUscalar and put autoscale so the processor will not be always in a full blast that consume a battery. hope i shared a good ideas to you..thansk to all
Can i use o2 mini or dopod 818pro battrey on my atom exec
SPB mobile shell
Do you think that the SPB mobile shell is infecting the battery life ??
I'm using the SPB phone suite looks ok but my memory is low arround 15MB
And the battery is low after few hours
matin78 said:
Can i use o2 mini or dopod 818pro battrey on my atom exec
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Nope im pretty sure its different by size and type.
Ronv said:
Do you think that the SPB mobile shell is infecting the battery life ??
I'm using the SPB phone suite looks ok but my memory is low arround 15MB
And the battery is low after few hours
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DONT USE it...also dont use xcpusclar..try to search in atom upgrading forum..
generalriden said:
DONT USE it...also dont use xcpusclar..try to search in atom upgrading forum..
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What about HTC HOME
Battery Life / O2 Plus
Hi All
Reading through this thread it seems that o2 plus is battery loving.
Is there any other software out there that will do the same thing. I use the o2 calender on the today screen and am about to have more than one appointment on the screen. I would hate to lose that feature!
it seems i cant find the O2 plus program here on my phone, the O2 programs are:
O2 Auto Installation
O2 Connect
O2 Media Plus
O2 SMS Plus
which one will prolong my battery life Mochan....
xcpuscalar
ei..don't install xcpuscalar..auto scale doesn't help in battery improvement...they just slow down ur ppc, but still they uses the maximum cpu clock..so it still consume battery a lot.. just use it for overclocking,,not for battery saving...
Hi there!
I just got a new 2400mAh battery for my charmer (PM16A; 3.7VDC) and turned the device off to completely charge the new batt. For 3h there was no light indicating a charging progress so I turned the charmer on (no LED signal at all) and the OS booted. The system runs extremely slow and the battery status is not being recognised.
Has anybody made some experience with the bigger batteries or any idea why the system runs but no charging is being done? The battery is explicitly displayed to be fully compatible with the MDA Compact II...
Thanks in advance,
Gore
I called the dealer today and he told me that this battery is well known for causing troubles. I sent it back and told the dealer to keep me informed if any improvements are made by the manufacturer. He also told me that this (chinese) manufacturer seems to be the only one building those 2400mAh batteries, so if you're suggesting to buy one, think it over at the moment...
If I get any information about the issue I'll post it here.
So long,
Gore
What ROM is on your device? The batdriver.dll can cause such problems. What is shown? -1%? And what size is said? Does it say 0mA or 2400mA?
Give me infos I'll try to help you with my "how drivers are" skils.
Edit: Seen post now. Can you remember any answers on my questions. Cuase I think it would help others too.
I have cYBERDEls WM6.1 Manila 2d German Ed. installed. It runs perfectly with my old battery, fast and stable, but the battery turns off at 60% (4 years old - no surprise I guess). With the new one it seems to charge, although no orange light present. When entering the battery status in the OS, it said something like status unavailable or battery unavailable. And it runs extremely slow which it does not with the old one.
I'm sorry I cannot say anything about the current size, as the battery status driver of that WM6.1 version is unable to display...
I tried the Battfix.cab as well just to make sure but no change.
Thanks for helping,
Gore
OK that is a batdriver.dll problem. I'll upload some versions later or tomorow. Just try them.
And if you installed batfix.cab it will charge without the light, But the power you're using can also be the power with witch it came. (They are charged to 50%-80% to live long without being used)
-> "I'll upload some versions later or tomorrow"
That would be just great. Lucky me, I didn't actually send the package away yet, but will rip it open again
Which problem is solved by the batdriver.dll?
Btw, good luck with your 6.5 development, I'm really looking forward to it!
The batdriver will hopefully recognize the battery. (I'll give you Prophet and Wizard ones cause they suppoert only the big batteries I think). And WM6.5 will first just be English. Cause I have to translate everything manually to German.
Hope I can fix your problem.
Hey anything new about the batdriver.dll? Did you upload it somewhere or could you post a link to a proper driver in the Prophet or Wizard section if there is one? Sorry for shoving you...
Gore
Soory now time till now. I'll try to get some today or tomorow and post them here.
Hi,
Recently I have upgraded to cotulla's wm6.1 ROM. I have a JAM with 128 mb RAM. On my battery panel, I can see my Main (Li-ion) and Backup (NiMH) batteries. When I had WM2003, I can work until my main battery meter become completely 0 and the device will work on backup battery. But now, I am getting red warning light when my main battery meter become low, and the device turns off even if the backup battery is showing 100%. Does anybody know the reason for this?? Is anything wrong with the registry?? Pls reply to solve me the problem..
Thanks in advance...
blasteralfred
blasteralfred said:
Hi,
Recently I have upgraded to cotulla's wm6.1 ROM. I have a JAM with 128 mb RAM. On my battery panel, I can see my Main (Li-ion) and Backup (NiMH) batteries. When I had WM2003, I can work until my main battery meter become completely 0 and the device will work on backup battery. But now, I am getting red warning light when my main battery meter become low, and the device turns off even if the backup battery is showing 100%. Does anybody know the reason for this?? Is anything wrong with the registry?? Pls reply to solve me the problem..
Thanks in advance...
blasteralfred
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this, you just try to use nueBatteryTP2GSM to overcome
Hakim Rahman said:
this, you just try to use nueBatteryTP2GSM to overcome
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It is wrong when copying in Windows
It shows 0% battery
Not working..... resulted a ROM crash... and made me to Hard reset..
Even I downloaded and installed original nueBatteryTP2GSM cab file latest version.. but no use..