Hi all, tis my first post so please help.
Can i connect my Jam to my computer using bluetooth connectivity and then use my computer's internet connection to connect to the internet from my Jam?
If it is possible please Help me...
Just connect to AS on your PC via BT and your Jam will automaticaly use your computer's connection (this is called passthrough).
Does anyone know how to get passthrough to work is AS is via a Citrix session?
sheraz2000 said:
Hi all, tis my first post so please help.
Can i connect my Jam to my computer using bluetooth connectivity and then use my computer's internet connection to connect to the internet from my Jam?
If it is possible please Help me...
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Well...It's a bit complicated but I'll try to write it down clearly, and easy...
I'm Hungarian (using Hungarian Windows) so I don't know some description from other languaged Windows. But I try to translate it properly...
So the solution:
What you need:
- The first thing you need is a Bluesoleil BT driver. It is a special Bluetooth Stack, and you're able to build a PAN (Personal Area Network) with is.
- The second stuff you need is a patch for the original MS Stack.You can add COM Ports with it.
- Active Sync 4.1
- A BT USB Donlge which has a PAN service.
Let's start it:
1. Install the BT Stacks to your magician.
2. Put your USB Bluetooth Dongle to your PC.
(It's not necessary to install the driver if you use Windows XP)
3. Open the "Bluetooth Devices" from: Start -> Settings -> Faxes and other hardwares -> Bluetooth Devices.
4. Search for your PPC.
5. Specify an "Incoming Port" (ex.: Com Port 8 Incoming).
6. Go to your PPC, use the patched MS Stack and specify an "Outgoing Port" (ex.: Com port 5 Outgoing).
7. Open Active Sync 4.1, and check the "Allow Usb connections" checkbox
8. Configure the "Allow connections on this port" to your Outgoing Port (ex.: If you use COM 5 for Outgiong port on your PPC, then config tihs option on your PC to the COM 5)
9. Configure the "This computer connects to the" dialog to "The Internet".
10. Change the BT Stack on your PPC with "Bluetooth Switch" (you'll need to perform a soft reset)
11. After Soft reset start Bluesoleil Stack and search for the USB Dongle.Double click on the PC icon to search services.
12. In services choose PAN network.
Your device will try to connect to your PC, and if it's connected run Active Sync via BT.If this is comleted, you should be able to connect to the internet from your PPC, and you can use MSN Messenger too if you have.
COMPLETE!!!
If you can't understand a step clearly (beacuse I've mistyped something, of translated it wrong etc.) write down what is it and I try to explain it more detailed.
If you have problems with this solution, reply it to me and I'll make a How To Do.PDF with pictures in it
HyperMalac said:
Well...It's a bit complicated but I'll try to write it down clearly, and easy...
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It doesn't have to use Bluesoleil BT stack at all. The MS stack comes w/ yr magician can do the BT ActiveSync without any problem. U could check my old post in a month ago for steps to do BT ActiveSync.
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HyperMalac said:
Well...It's a bit complicated but I'll try to write it down clearly, and easy...
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It doesn't have to use Bluesoleil BT stack at all. The MS stack comes w/ yr magician can do the BT ActiveSync without any problem. U could check my old post in a month ago for steps to do BT ActiveSync.
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Well, I tried a 1000 times, but I can not do a bt Active Sync via BT.But I've tried Bluesoleil Stack and it works good for me.
HyperMalac said:
Well, I tried a 1000 times, but I can not do a bt Active Sync via BT.But I've tried Bluesoleil Stack and it works good for me.
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The trick is to start the pairing on the pda from within AS.
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HyperMalac said:
Well...It's a bit complicated but I'll try to write it down clearly, and easy...
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It doesn't have to use Bluesoleil BT stack at all. The MS stack comes w/ yr magician can do the BT ActiveSync without any problem. U could check my old post in a month ago for steps to do BT ActiveSync.
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Well, I tried a 1000 times, but I can not do a bt Active Sync via BT.But I've tried Bluesoleil Stack and it works good for me.
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Hmmm so where do i get this "Bluesoleil Stack" and once i get my Jam Connected to my PC thru Active Sync, CAN I NOW USE THE INTERNET ?? or does it needs some settings on my JAM.
i've always used MS$ bt stack with AS and surf without any problems.
My BT dongle is built by IVT corp, somehow I can't use MS BT stack so I have to install BlueSoleil to make it work.
So here's my problem...
PC: BlueSoleil 1.6.1.4 has only com ports 18-28 (can't add ports)
PPC: has only com ports 4 & 5 (can't add ports)
ActiveSync: Allows only com 1 & 2
How can you add ports so I can use the same for both PC and PPC?
6. Go to your PPC, use the patched MS Stack and specify an "Outgoing Port" (ex.: Com port 5 Outgoing).
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Can you please give more details how to use the MS Stack on the PPC?
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How can you add ports so I can use the same for both PC and PPC?
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Why U need to have this requirement??? The port# for both end independant. Eg: The AS on my desktop using Com4 and the AS on the PPC may use Com5.
IT's POSSIBLE to Navigate with Magician via BT with his ORIGINAL BT Stack.
The only "bug" is that there isn't a PAN.
Look HERE
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Dice said:
How can you add ports so I can use the same for both PC and PPC?
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Why U need to have this requirement??? The port# for both end independant. Eg: The AS on my desktop using Com4 and the AS on the PPC may use Com5.
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6. Go to your PPC, use the patched MS Stack and specify an "Outgoing Port" (ex.: Com port 5 Outgoing).
7. Open Active Sync 4.1, and check the "Allow Usb connections" checkbox
8. Configure the "Allow connections on this port" to your Outgoing Port (ex.: If you use COM 5 for Outgiong port on your PPC, then config tihs option on your PC to the COM 5)
My PPC has only outgoing com port 5 while Active Sync can only connect to com ports 1 & 2. I need to match them right?
SkizZO said:
IT's POSSIBLE to Navigate with Magician via BT with his ORIGINAL BT Stack.
The only "bug" is that there isn't a PAN.
Look HERE
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Thanks for the reply, the problem is that my bluetooth recognizes only ports 18-29. I don't have any hidden/unused ports already checked it.
Dice, try to find out which important com-ports are used at all, write them down to paper, then take upper one and change down step by step each port lookslike busy, but free (don`t change important com-ports )! this way free your ports. then uninstall bluesoleil, reboot , and install bluesoleil again, reboot and you will see all bluetooth ports for bluesoleil in lower position. check ports in Activesync if its won`t be there reinstall Activesync 4.1!
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8. Configure the "Allow connections on this port" to your Outgoing Port (ex.: If you use COM 5 for Outgiong port on your PPC, then config tihs option on your PC to the COM 5)
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My PPC has only outgoing com port 5 while Active Sync can only connect to com ports 1 & 2. I need to match them right?
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I didn't read that guide. But step 8 is definitately misleading! As I said before, they are indenpendant and doesn't have to be match.
For our magician, the outgoing port is FIXED to com5. On the PC, the Com port number can be anything depends on what COM port is assigned as Serial connection for yr BT stack. Eg. I need to use Com 4 when I am using the Widcomm BT driver. But I need to use Com7 when I was trying the Tosbhiba BT stack. So, test them out if U are not sure what com port is using on yr PC for serial connection.
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Dice said:
8. Configure the "Allow connections on this port" to your Outgoing Port (ex.: If you use COM 5 for Outgiong port on your PPC, then config tihs option on your PC to the COM 5)
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My PPC has only outgoing com port 5 while Active Sync can only connect to com ports 1 & 2. I need to match them right?
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I didn't read that guide. But step 8 is definitately misleading! As I said before, they are indenpendant and doesn't have to be match.
For our magician, the outgoing port is FIXED to com5. On the PC, the Com port number can be anything depends on what COM port is assigned as Serial connection for yr BT stack. Eg. I need to use Com 4 when I am using the Widcomm BT driver. But I need to use Com7 when I was trying the Tosbhiba BT stack. So, test them out if U are not sure what com port is using on yr PC for serial connection.
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Sorry, if I mislead you.I use Bluesoleil Stack, and I've matched the ports and it works.After I tried it on different ports and it worked too.
AND ONE MORE THING:
I've tried an easier way to surf on the net via BT.But it still uses Bluesoleil ...
- All you need is just simply open Bluesoleil Stack on the PPC.
- Then on the PC go to Bluetooth Settings and start pairing the PPC.
- After the pairing scan for the Computer services on the PPC and if all thing are works well you get "PAN" option.Connect and you're Done!
All guys who says it is not necessary to get Bluesoleil Stack:
My dongle is an IVT BT Dongle and I can't use the original stack to surf the net.But if you say it's possible on some BT Dongles I believe it.
bolasz:
Thanks for the trick (start pairing from PDA).I'll try it and post the result
sheraz2000:
I've linked the Bluesoleil Stack, so you can download it.
I think you can use the internet without any setting on the JAM.If you can't use the net, try to set your firewall.
Well thats for today and once again sorry for the misleading.
Many thanks to those who replied.
I'm also using the IVT BT dongle. Looks like I need to use Bluesoleil to make it work. I've already managed to connected to PAN. I've already allowed Internet Connection sharing on my computer and disabled firewall but still can't surf the net
Are there any settings I need to change in the PAN?
Dice said:
My BT dongle is built by IVT corp, somehow I can't use MS BT stack so I have to install BlueSoleil to make it work.
So here's my problem...
PC: BlueSoleil 1.6.1.4 has only com ports 18-28 (can't add ports)
PPC: has only com ports 4 & 5 (can't add ports)
ActiveSync: Allows only com 1 & 2
How can you add ports so I can use the same for both PC and PPC?
6. Go to your PPC, use the patched MS Stack and specify an "Outgoing Port" (ex.: Com port 5 Outgoing).
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Can you please give more details how to use the MS Stack on the PPC?
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You can force the IVT dongles to use the WIDCOMM stack as opposed to the Bluesoleil one. I couldn't find the thread I used on GSM-Forum, but I had a copy saved...
Basically all you do is:
0. Uninstall all your bluetooth software. Unplug the Dongle for this step
1. Download Widcomm 4.0.1.700 from here: http://www.mobidick.biz/downloads.shtml
2. Download Billyx's Patches from here: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=179871
3. SP2 Users: (i dont know if this step does anything, but i read somewhere to do it, and it everything worked for me. Though it might work if you skip this step)
Go to Start -> Run ->write "msconfig" (without the quotes) and press enter. Go to the services tab and uncheck Bluetooth Service. Then hit OK. You might wanna restart, i think i did step 4 before doing that though.
4. Install Widcomm. Make sure the Dongle is plugged in it should recognise the dongle and it began installing the issc drivers. Restart PC
(at this point widcomm should be blue and red, and asking for the dreadful license.)
5. Restart PC in Safe Mode. Use Billyx's patch to overwrite the files in C:\Program Files\WIDCOMM\Bluetooth Software using the 2 .EXEs
and files in C:\WINDOWS\system32 using the .DLLs
6. Restart, and bluetooth should now be blue and white.
7. Connect your devices. Begin using them
You're done!!
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Hi,
I am successfully setup ActiveSync via bluetooth (and get internet access by activesync) using below method. No need to install stack or anything to PPC. I forgot where I found it, but I copied the step already.
To the author of this step, apologize me to paste your post here without your permission. My intention is to help others. Since I am success with this step, I share with others.
Here is the steps:
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1)On your PC go to the Control Panel and select "Bluetooth". In the "Options" tab, make sure all the ticks are on. You'll now see a little bluetooth icon on your system tray. Makes it easier to access in the future. Your PC should also be ready to be found as long as you ticked the fist box in the step above.
2)On your Jam, Go to Start, Settings, System (Tab), Bluetooth Settings. On the screen that comes up you ONLY want to hit start. Leave the incoming and outgoing checkboxes OFF!!!
3)You will now be taken to the partnership screen, where you just follow the instructions to add your PC. Follow through until you hit finish. Close everything down until you're back at the today screen.
4)Back to your PC, double click on the Bluetooth icon in your system tray. Go to "Com Ports" (Tab) and click "Add". Choose incoming. A You'll see an incoming port added to the list (probably be the only item there). It should look like "COM X Incoming"
Remember what number is after COM. Close all windows, making sure you hit OK or Apply where you have to.
5)Open Active Sync on your PC. Hit File, Connection Settings. Enable the first tick, and select the COM port you had to remember in the previous step. Hit OK
6)Open Active Sync on your Jam. Choose Tools, Connect Via Bluetooth.
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Hope this is helpful!
Regards,
Arto.
Dice said:
Many thanks to those who replied.
I'm also using the IVT BT dongle. Looks like I need to use Bluesoleil to make it work. I've already managed to connected to PAN. I've already allowed Internet Connection sharing on my computer and disabled firewall but still can't surf the net
Are there any settings I need to change in the PAN?
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If the PAN setup succesful, then click on the ActiveSync icon in the Bluesoleil "Bluetotth Manager" on the JAM.
I think now you surf the net from the PPC.
Reply if something is worng and you still cannot surf the net
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After a lot of try and error, I have finally managed to activesync over bt using the provided MS BT stack and the bt tools. Currently the connection is very unstable and it can dicsonnect seconds after connecting or sometimes after about 15 minutes. What is the range of the bt on the xda 2 and will the situation improve if I get a 100m range usb dongle for my pc?
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What is the range of the bt on the xda 2 and will the situation improve if I get a 100m range usb dongle for my pc?
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The Bluetooth radio on the XDA II is class 2. This means that its range is about 10 meters (or up to 30 meters). You can't extend the range even if you use a class 1 (100-meter range) Bluetooth dongle. I've already tried that.
Slightly off topic, I appologise...
Can any person suggest a good USB Bluetooth device with which XDA II with Active Sync?
Thanks, Ben.
benclewett said:
Can any person suggest a good USB Bluetooth device with which XDA II with Active Sync?
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I use a Billionton Class 1 Bluetooth USB dongle.
One of these:
http://www.billionton.com/website/product/index.asp?sid=109647601&code=USBBTC1A
If it works well with the XDA, that's enough for me, thanks.
Ben
illwill, can you tell me how you managed to get activesync to work over bluetooth? I cant get it to do anything, a step by step would be very helpful for myself and others. Thank you.
I use a Sitecom class I (100m) BT usb dongle and managed to get Activesync to work with my MDA II over bt connection after installing the wonderful BT Tools from Tobias Waldvogel:
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
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illwill, can you tell me how you managed to get activesync to work over bluetooth? I cant get it to do anything, a step by step would be very helpful for myself and others. Thank you.
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You could use Pocket Bluetooth Tools (http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html).
It's free, works like a charm and it's got a guide too. The only trick my friend had a problem with, was setting up the correct COM port on the PC in PC's bluetooth settings.
have fun, let me know if you need more help.
AS over BT
Delete your pc from bonded devices on your xda II if you have it bonded
Here is how I got my bluetooth to activesync with pc. Go into ActiveSync on pc and select File-> connection settings.
Make sure that "Allow serial cable or infrared...." is checked and you have put the COM port as the BT serial port.
On your xda, turn off Bluetooth and then turn it back on.
Go to Settings->System and select Bluetooth settings
Click on the start button to start BT Activesync. You will get a message that you need to set up a device that supports BT AS, XDA will search for devices and find your pc. After bonding pc, you will get a message stating that ActiveSync BT is now setup.
Open AS and select Tools -> Connect via BT (or something), and your pc will prompt you for authorisation.
*If it all works like mine then it will connect ok but the connection will drop out as soon as you try to do anything worth while like surfing the internet over BT or syncing AvantGo*
ilwill you the man. That worked a treat. I had just about given up until i read your post. Good work mate....
Dave N.Ireland
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zfiser said:
cruisin-thru said:
illwill, can you tell me how you managed to get activesync to work over bluetooth? I cant get it to do anything, a step by step would be very helpful for myself and others. Thank you.
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You could use Pocket Bluetooth Tools (http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html).
It's free, works like a charm and it's got a guide too. The only trick my friend had a problem with, was setting up the correct COM port on the PC in PC's bluetooth settings.
have fun, let me know if you need more help.
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Well I have this problem....
my BT software (widcomm 1.4.2) insists on setting the com port as com 10 and above...re-installed several times...same thing....and of course Active sync does not even recognize com 10.....any thoughts
one more thing worth notinh...the widcom sites speaks of a BT stack for ppc phone edition and a dev kit for it....(which do support headset and handsfree in addition to the other profiles...) so any news on where this product stands where can we get it??
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hops said:
Well I have this problem....
my BT software (widcomm 1.4.2) insists on setting the com port as com 10 and above...re-installed several times...same thing....and of course Active sync does not even recognize com 10.....any thoughts
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My Bluetooth dongle also uses the Widcomm software. But it assigned COM7 as the Bluetooth serial port. Did you assign a serial port to any Bluetooth profile besides the ActiveSync profile?
whenever I try to assign a port to any service...it is always greater than 10!!
can this be an XP thing??
hops said:
whenever I try to assign a port to any service...it is always greater than 10!!
can this be an XP thing??
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No, I also use Windows XP.
I'm not sure about this but try this if it works. Launch the Windows Registry Editor (regedit.exe). Then navigate to the registry key "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Widcomm\BTConfig\Services". Under that key are several keys named "0001", "0002", "0003", and so on. Look for the key whose registry value "Name" is set to "ActiveSync". In that key, change the setting of registry value "ComPortNumber" to a number lower than 10 (like 9). Then restart your PC and see if that changes the Bluetooth serial port setting.
Has anyone managed to activesync the Jam via bt, with xp service pack2 (that needs no drivers for bt)? I have tried a lot, and followed some guides on the internet, but nothing done yet I have a german mda compact, with englidh imate tom 1.03.
Maybe this helps :wink: MOD EDIT: Personalised URL link removed
that's what i have done, but when i press activesync via bluetooth, it sais that cannot connect to this port, because is already in use or not valid
Tonight i have 2 setup all the stuff again because i reinstalled my compu. I'll check if everything in the tutorial is ok... :wink: (I'm almost sure there some wrong things in it :? )
ok thanks
I also have no success with ActiveSync / Bluetooth / WinXP-SP2
Bluetooth works although. Using the WinXP SP2 bluetooth icon (bottom right next to the clock), I can 'Send A File' to the MDA. The file nicely ends up in 'My Documents' in the MDA.
So, Bluetooth on the WinXP-SP2 and MDA machines both work.
But, ActiveSync, no way. Activesync on the pc just does not want to detect the MDA. I already changed the BT com ports to 4 and 5 because I read somewhere ActiveSync only accepts ports from 1 up to 9.
Is there somebody who actually got WinXP-SP2 and the MDA working with Activesync?
i found this, but i have not tried it yet. i will try at noon.
http://www.mobismart.net/forums/Default.aspx?g=posts&m=2276
what a french forum? great! lol
Works fine for me.
Set up a COM port on your computer, then selecdt that port in ActiveSync. Pair the two devices to create a Bluetooth link. Then run ActiveSync->Tools->Connect via Bluetooth... on your Magician.
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Works fine for me 2. So the issue is not SP2. It has more to do with your Bluetooth or ActiveSync configuration I think. Can you pair the devices to start with?
Same here, works perfect on Windows XP SP2 using the previous 3.7.1 and the new 3.8 ActiveSync on bluetooth.
I had gone through much pain with the Widcomm (not sure about spelling anymore) driver installed but without any success in getting my Dopod818 activesync to work.
So I uninstalled it, and let WinXP SP2 detect the USB BT device again and download by itself the SP2 driver. Then followed the steps in Benjamin's MDA Howto article above (with the only exceptions being that you don't need to set the incoming and outgoing serials as com4 and com5 on your PC), now my Dopod818 is activesyncing with my PC flawlessly.
I tried everything both with Widcomm and Microsoft bluetooth
I think the problem is related with my MDA Compact. When I go to ActiveSync on MDA and choose connnect via bluetooth - it does not give any connection message. With IRDA or USB it says "Connecting to host". Probably something wrong with MDA setup. I have T-Mobile English WWE 1.01.00, ROM version - I'l try to upgrade to newer ROM and then check
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I think the problem is related with my MDA Compact. When I go to ActiveSync on MDA and choose connnect via bluetooth - it does not give any connection message. With IRDA or USB it says "Connecting to host". Probably something wrong with MDA setup. I have T-Mobile English WWE 1.01.00, ROM version - I'l try to upgrade to newer ROM and then check
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I had a hard time configuring ActiveSync to work through Bluetooth but it finally worked (with XP SP2 and not with Widcomm). I think the trick when using XP SP2 bluetooth stack is in the bluetooth pairing process (which is skipped in the Benjamin's guide).
The problem I think is that when the two devices are paired (the MDA and the PC) the MDA does not recognize the SPP (serial port profile) service of the PC and it does not assign the “Bluetooth Outbound com port” to the SPP service of the PC.
The steps that worked for me are the following:
1) Delete the device pairing from both the PC and the MDA (if you have
done the pairing before).
2) At the MDA go to Settings -> System -> Bluetooth settings and make sure the Outbound COM port checkbox is checked.
3) At the PC: open Bluetooth settings, go to COM ports, and add an incoming port (press the Add button and select incoming - nothing more).
(I call this port COM7 but it could be any other com port that your system assigns to the added port)
4) At the PC: add a new Bluetooth device (start the wizard) and follow the normal steps to pair the PC with the MDA. The MDA will notify you of the new paired device - press OK - do nothing special.
4) At the PC's ActiveSyc connection settings select the proper com port (COM7: the incoming com port created at step 3 above).
5) Run on the MDA the ActiveSyct and select the Connect via Bluetooth...
hope it works
My understanding (although I just got my first Pocket PCs) of the connection process is the following:
The ActiveSync on the MDA opens the "bluetooth outbound com port" (COM5) when you select the "Connect via Bluetooth".
This port must be assigned to a SPP (serial port profile) service of another bluetooth device (in our case the SPP service offered by the PC with the XP SP2 bluetooth stack. Note that the SPP service on the PC is connected to a com port (COM7 in my case)). If the Outbound com port (COM5) on the MDA is not assigned to a remote device then you get that error saying ActiveSyct can not open the port (when you try to Connect via Bluetooth)
Assuming that the MDA's COM5 is assigned to the PC's SPP service, when opening MDA's COM5 ActiveSync gets connected to the com port (COM7) on the PC.
On the other side, the ActiveSync on the PC is set to use COM7 as a connection port and it detectes the connection which is now opened.
The MDA's "bluetooth incoming com port" (COM4) as well as the bluetooth "Outgoing" com port created on the PC seams to play no role in the hole process.
atsois.
just wanna say i got it working with ms drivers and a very cheap bt dongle!
similar to atsois and leskip methods...
i setup the incoming com port in bluetooth settings and assigned activesync to that port BEFORE any pairing took place
i tried pairing from the PC, but no luck.. but when I paired from the phone, it worked!
excellent, thanks for all the help!
Before Activesync 3.8, mine would only work one time per reboot of the desktop PC. After installing Activesync 3.8, Bluetooth Activesync works everytime!
dj_linz6 said:
just wanna say i got it working with ms drivers and a very cheap bt dongle!
similar to atsois and leskip methods...
i setup the incoming com port in bluetooth settings and assigned activesync to that port BEFORE any pairing took place
i tried pairing from the PC, but no luck.. but when I paired from the phone, it worked!
excellent, thanks for all the help!
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Thank you. I couldn´t make it work, but then I tried to pair the devices from the MDA - and it worked fine!
// Anders
I recently replaced my MS BT stack with the Widcomm 1.5.0 build 2000.
It worked, i was detecting other devices, sending business cards and doing basic BT stuff...
Then I got me a bluetooth USB adapter for my laptop and and decided to do other cool stuff like activesync over BT and creating a LAN or PAN connection etc.
First of all, with the lameass MS atck on XP that comes free with SP2, there arent any services for a serial port connection over BT (required for activesync) or FTP or LAN etc. So I have to install the software that came with the BT adapter (software called BlueSoleil and pretty good, not that I would know).
So with the new software now i have all theses services running. I have been able to make an ftp connection and transfer files. but I can't get activesync to work.
Sad Has anyone dones this? What am I missing?
Is there a Widcomm stack for the PC somewhere? is that even necessary?
could be one of my bluetooth dongles comes with vidcomm software
try checking here
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contenttypeid=2
i have my pda's syncing just ok with
one pc with the std ms xp sp2 bluetooth stuff
one pda use the ms bluetooth stack
the other use the vidcomm bluetooth stack
Have you tried using activesync over usb first, once you get a connection, then try the activesync over bluetooth, I have found that activesync will not attempt a connection over bluetooth until you have a working connection over usb.
this has been a constant problem in XP SP2 users who try to activesync via bluetooth.. try checking your COM port availability in your bluetooth stack and activesync connection settings.. they must be the same..
How about Windows 2000 Pro?
Up until now, I can't activesync over bluetooth. My bluetooth dongle is from Billionton, can I use other driver (e.g. WidComm) for my dongle? Can any of u guys guide me how to activesync with bluetooth? Thanks
you're using XP SP2 right? then why use another bluetooth stack when you can activesync via bluetooth through the bluetooth stack that comes with XP-SP2? for more info better search for it in this forum, for there is a full tutorial somewhere here on how to setup XP-SP2 with activesync without changing bluetooth stacks.. i'm sorry but i don't know the exact link..
ei ilmans.. i believe that you can use the Widcomm driver for your dongle.. all you have to do to is to see to it that the COM port your using in activesync is the same as the COM port assigned to the Bluetooth serial port that you can see in the advanced configurations of the Bluetooth stack.. hope this helps
Thanks Marc MD...
Could u point out what is the newest Widcomm driver and where to get it
Try this:
1. From the Control Panel, open Bluetooth Devices.
2. From the COM Ports tab, click Add, select Incoming, then click OK (this is kind of confusing, since it doesn't really seem apparent that you are already adding a COM port)
3. Your new port should be listed in the list box (e.g. COM6 Incoming)
From your XDA:
1. Open Bluetooth Settings from the Settings menu
2. Enable the Inbound COM port check box
3. Open ActiveSync, from the Tools menu, Connect via Bluetooth
ActiveSync should be working at this point (you can even browse the Intenet from Pocket IE). Pair your devices first though (via Bluetooth Devices, Devices, Add).
Hope this helps!
Erwin
1. On your PC - Check which COM Port has been assigned to your Bluetooth Serial Port
Open the Bluetooth software on your PC (usually called My Bluetooth Places) and choose "View my Bluetooth Services" or similar.
Right click on "Bluetooth Serial Port" and choose "Properties"
Make a note of the COM Port number
2. On your PC - Assign the COM Port in Activesync to the same one as your Bluetooth Serial Port
Open the Activesync program on your PC and choose "File" and "Connection Settings" (or right click on the Activesync icon in the system tray).
Ensure the "Allow Serial cable or Infrared..." option is ticked and then open the drop-down box under this. Now select the Com Port that you checked previously in the Bluetooth software.
3. On the PC - Setup a new Activesync partnership via the cradle
If you already have an Activesync partnership, this should be deleted (File > Delete Partnership).
Put the Xda II in the cradle and setup a standard partnership via Activesync. When this is done take the Xda II out of the cradle and remove the cradle from the PC.
4. On Your Xda II - Activate Activesync via Bluetooth and Bond the Devices
Go to Start > Settings > System > Bluetooth Settings
Under the "Bluetooth Activesync Setup" tap on "Start".
Tap "OK" when asked bond with other device.
You will now be in the Xda II Bluetooth program. Choose the "Discoverable" option and then tap the "Bonded Devices" tab and choose "New"
The Xda II will search for Bluetooth devices. When this has finished tap on the name of the PC and choose "Next"
You will then be asked to enter the Device PIN. Enter any 4 digit number and tap "Next"
On the PC, you will be asked to click on the Bluetooth icon in the PC system tray and enter the same 4 digit number. When you have done this, click OK.
On the Xda II tap "Finish".
Close the Bluetooth program on the Xda II.
5. To Begin synchronising via Bluetooth
On the Xda II go to "Start" and "Activesync".
Choose "Tools" and "Connect via Bluetooth".
Synchronisation via Bluetooth will now begin.
and if you have issues with matching com ports then check out the post i made wayyy back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12278&highlight=
a lot of chaps had issues with the com ports not being the same or could not change them to match.
cheers
Hi everybody...
I know this has been posted be4... but I have searched the forum a lot, with no luck..
searched howardforums too.. no luck too...
even in bengalboy web site, but his guide did not work.... every time I try to connect to my pc I get disconnected..
I wish to sync vis M$ stack... not Bluesoeilfor the JAM
I has MSI BT dongle, Toshibal BT stack on PC, M$ BT stack on JAM
*PS: does anybody know how to install M$ BT on PC... I have Win XP pro SP2.. and I think it should have built in.. but when I uninstall Toshiba's Stack.. I can get anything!!!
please help...some basic what to do....
I really appreciate it
duke911: do you want to explain what you've done so far on the PC.
That PDA should be fine, it's quite easy to setup
(read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=144696#144696)
However, on the PC: you've installed the hardware, have your bluetooth dongle working, and have successfully paired your PDA?
V
Thanks vijay555 for the swift reply :wink:
The dongle works fine, pairs and everything...
but when I plugged it for the first time.. it was not recognized by my PC... aparenely there were no drive for BT.. so I installed the Toshiba's stack bundled with the dongle.
Here is what I have done:
first I tried bengalboy guide here ( although i dislike his website a lot )
http://www.bengalboy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=4&forum=8
but every time I finish and I press Connect Via Bluetooth in Active Sync PPC... I see the opening port message etc.. but I don't get connected..
after that.. Toshiba's Stack on my PC started to act weired... first when I paired with the JAM.. I get three services: SPP, DUN, Push Object
but after a while.. SPP just disappeared...
Then I uninstalled the driver.. reinstall.. same problem..
uninstall.. tried ( Add Hardware Wizard in PC ) to try Microsoft Stack.. but it did recognize the dongle...
please vijay555.. can you tell me how to install the original stack from Microsoft on my PC???
Thanx in advance
duke911: I'm actually using the blue soleil stack that came with my ebay dongle. I vaguely remember there being an enormous effort getting that to install, for marginal benefit. I'm in the office right now, but if you still need help later I can see if they'll help you out, when I get home later.
But try reading through some of the blue soleil threads on this board, I think they discuss the relative benefits of the various stacks floating around on the board. Blue Soleil works for me, but frankly, bluetooth is the kind of thing you shouldn't have to think about, it should just work, right!? Those threads might also discuss uninstalling any other stack. If you've not made major changes, have you considered using System Restore on your PC to roll back to before installing the dongle?
V
OK.. I have done every thing you can imagine.... it now 2 am... I have been trying to figure out how do this since 3 pm... and no luck :evil:
I tried installing the dongle on a different PC with XP SP1... also no luck.. no M$ driver... so I installed Toshiba's...
after that I restored my JAM using a sprite back up to a different time... how knows maybe i messed a lot since 3 pm
after that i did the following:
1. in PPC: went to Start>Settings>System> Bluetooth Settings then choose Incoming COM and pressed Start in the middle of the page..
2. paired with PC.. no problems.. PS: PPC did not say that my PC supports SPP
3. on PC.. choose the same COM port that Toshiba uses for SPP ( which is COM 8 ) in my case..
4. from PPC tried to Sync.. and then I get this message in Active Sync in PC
5. If I choose different COM port for AS.. I get the usual message on my PPC ( connecting to Host ) but I get nothing
PS: I'm using Active-Sync 4.1 on the another PC... while the previous uses v 3.8
please vijay555 help me out here... my head is about to explode
Problem Solved.... 8)
Will post instruction tomorrow.. step by step.. for newbies...
thanks vijay555 for you help
OK here is the thing...
the trick is to chooses the same COM port for you Serial Port Profile for both : PC bt stack & Active-Sync... i.e. both use COM 7 or 8 ..etc
second.. you should pair your PPC with PC.. and create an Outgoing COM from your PPC...
a picture is worth a thousand words.. check this GIF
cheers
hey duke what did you do? i've been trying to get m jam to sync for agees without any luck! i'm starting to think that it might be the usb dongle that i'm using on my laptop! bout to go buy a new one so any tips you can offer would be great
do the following:
1. make sure PC bluetooth stack uses the same port for SPP as well as Active-Sync i.e. Both COM 8
2. on PPC: go to Start>Settings>System then choose Bluetooth Settings... and then tick outbound COM Port..
3. a pop up message will show.. click OK then you'll be take to BT manager.. you have to make sure you device is discoverable... then pair with your laptop.. after you finish.. go to COM Ports in BT manager... and create a new outgoing COM port...
4. go to Active-Sync in PPC and then choose tools>Connect via Bluetooth
that's it.. and I guess the gif will prove helpful
cheers :wink:
Ok, here's another manual. You have to follow each step precisely!
In your bluetooth manager on the PC, check for your incoming serial bluetooth port. This is the com port number which is shown under Local services or incoming services. If your COM port number is above 10, ask what to do then - ActiveSync doesn't work with COM ports above No 10.
Go to the ActiveSync settings on your PC and set the check box for the serial port. Select the one that was shown in the blueototh settings as incoming BT port.
On your Pocket PC, go to the Bluetooth settings. Select both checkboxes for the incoming and outgoing COM Port.
There you press start, go to your bluetooth device list and delete an existing pairing to the PC to which you want to connect to. Then re-pair the PPC with the computer again.
Afterwards, you can go to ActiveSync on your PPC and select "Connect via Bluetooth ...". That's it.
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hey dandie! what do i do if my pc assigns a com port of 11 and higher for my jam? i've tried the "show hidden" under device manger but my pc still keeps assigning a com port of 11 and higher?!
help
thanks
The COM port of PC and PPC DOESN'T have to be match. (No matter what BT stack you are using) In fact
Com port on Magician is FIXED at Com 5 and there is nothing to configure regarding the Com port over there.
On the PC, the BT stack choose whatever free com port them for serial connection. (eg: The blue soleil stack will tell you which com port is using in the pops up message when U BT activesync yr PPC to yr PC)
Then File > Connection Setting and select that port on yr PC's activesync.
(Sometimes, U have to try it serveral times to get activesync working)
Hi all,
I have a toshiba portege r200 and I'm simply not able to set up ActiveSync to work through bluetooth. The darn computer only sees my phone as a modem.
I have no clue how to do this.
I really cant' see why this has to be so hard. Both units are running stupid microsoft software. Whey the can't microsoft think that people migh want to connect their ppc's to their laptops via bt and just make it work easily?
Please, someone help.
thanks
zsizsi said:
Hi all,
I have a toshiba portege r200 and I'm simply not able to set up ActiveSync to work through bluetooth. The darn computer only sees my phone as a modem.
I have no clue how to do this.
I really cant' see why this has to be so hard. Both units are running stupid microsoft software. Whey the can't microsoft think that people migh want to connect their ppc's to their laptops via bt and just make it work easily?
Please, someone help.
thanks
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I agree 100% that this should be easier. But I think ActiveSync is actually a service that the laptop offers, not the phone. So on the phone, go to your BT manager, select your laptop, and then select services. ActiveSync should be one of the choices. After that, you should be able to connect to ActiveSync via BT, but I think you need to initiate the connection from your phone.
Activesync via Bluetooth
1. Install Active sync
2. Connect phone to USB cable and computer and let active Sync run once.
3. Disconnect USB cable.
4. On your Computers Bluetooth software (add a com port) before you detect the phone (very important).
5. On Active Sync on Computer click "connection Settings" and make sure it is using your com port from step 4.
6. Turn on discovery on your computer.
7. On your Phone go to Bluetooth / devices / New and select your computer enter pin on phone and PC.
8. Go to Active Sync on your phone and click "Connect via Bluetooth."
Hope this helps.
thank you all for your input.
i tried everything you guys suggested and it's still not working. my comp only offers a serial connection. is that ok? it has this toshiba bluetooth software on it not the original windows kind.
when i choose connect via bluetooth on my ppc's activesync it sais there's no computer that supports bt.
any ideas?
thanks again
I have Toshiba Bluetooth control software as well. I am certain it's the incorrect or incomplete BT COM port setting on your PC. A few findings (on my notebook) to share, hope this helps.
1. I have a "Bluetooth Local COM" applet on Control Panel
2. By opening "Bluetooth Local COM" applet I have a list of PORTS
3. The CORRECT port I HAVE TO use IS
"COM7 Toshiba BT Port (COM7) LocalCOM-Server[SerialPort(TOSHIBA LOcalCOM)]
NOT
"COM6 Toshiba BT Port (COM6) LocalCOM-Client"
4. If you don't find the Server COM port, do "create a Bluetooth virtual COM port for a Server"
5. Of course enable by checking the "Connection Settings" "allows connections to one of the following COM#" (7 in my case)
After this, try the steps I suggested. Initiate BT Activesyn from your PDA phone.
Good luck.
Hi,
Thanks for all your effort.
I did what you said and it's still not working.
When I'm trying to connect from my phone via bluetooth it satill sais it cannot find existing blueooth partnership with a pc that supports activesync.
what am i doing wrong?
Thanks
IceGoal said:
I have Toshiba Bluetooth control software as well. I am certain it's the incorrect or incomplete BT COM port setting on your PC. A few findings (on my notebook) to share, hope this helps.
1. I have a "Bluetooth Local COM" applet on Control Panel
2. By opening "Bluetooth Local COM" applet I have a list of PORTS
3. The CORRECT port I HAVE TO use IS
"COM7 Toshiba BT Port (COM7) LocalCOM-Server[SerialPort(TOSHIBA LOcalCOM)]
NOT
"COM6 Toshiba BT Port (COM6) LocalCOM-Client"
4. If you don't find the Server COM port, do "create a Bluetooth virtual COM port for a Server"
5. Of course enable by checking the "Connection Settings" "allows connections to one of the following COM#" (7 in my case)
After this, try the steps I suggested. Initiate BT Activesyn from your PDA phone.
Good luck.
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Phat!! This works for me with my Acer laptop and Bluetooth connection, thanks man!
Sweet, took a few tries, but works like a charm.
Thanks
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I just wanted to bump this to say thanks for posting the bit about using the LocalCOM-Server[SerialPort(TOSHIBA LOcalCOM)] port instead of the client port. Trying to get AS working using the Toshiba stack was driving me around the bend!
My pleasure
I've learned a lot from this wonderful board from a lot of wonderful people. Glad to be part of it!
You're the MAN
Thanks. This also worked for my Cingualr 8125. Many hours wasted. Glad I found this post. Thanks for your help.
this worked on my cingular 8125 as well, zsizsi i think you may have to delete all partnerships that were previously created with handheld on your pc and handheld. if that dosent work then in bluetooth settings go to options and under general tab check box "PAN networking service" that is just something i did while creating partnership not sure if it helps
The only thing that worked for me after 4 days of messing with it was to do a cold boot.
The first thing I did after the boot was to follow the instructions. Voila! ActiveSync magically appeared.
Hi all,
I have exactly the same problem with my qtek9100 and my IBM T43 Laptop.
I tried many times but....still not working!
As zsizsi if I try to make a relationship via PDA, it asks me the pairing key, and I'm blocked.
If I go through PC, I can do pairing, in the services I flag activesync, I configure the same com port that I have on AS (com 8) and when I0'm in the bluetooth wizard on the PDA, related to the PC I can only see 3 services:
hands free
remote connection
serial port
no activesync service to flag.
If I try then with the PDA Menu>BT connection it aswer that there is no relationship with PC supporting AS!!!!What the hell!
The only thing I see is that in my BT config in the local server the BT wizard creates a serial port named My activesync......
I have tried also your suggestion but.....
tinman44 said:
this worked on my cingular 8125 as well, zsizsi i think you may have to delete all partnerships that were previously created with handheld on your pc and handheld. if that dosent work then in bluetooth settings go to options and under general tab check box "PAN networking service" that is just something i did while creating partnership not sure if it helps
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thank you soo much for that info...enabling the "PAN networking service" finally allowed me to connect with my toshiba qosmio laptop
If the devices are paired... You have to select a service for the pda BT connection
Only when you manage to select the servive Activesync (a comport has to be valid assingd) then a connectin can be astablished.
In active sync you must assign a com port.
See the manual in activesync BT
Yes, I can guess it.
The rpoblem is that the devices are paired, the activesync service is flagged in the PC (while I do the automatic pairing devices withn a wizard).
But I can't still see the service in my PDA.
I can only find:
Hands free
Serial port
remote connection
No activesync service on the PDA relation wizard...
Any other suggestion?
Another issue.
When I look in my BT services, I can't find an activesync service, but only an icon (com plug) called My activesync.
Look at the properties of this icon I can only flag automatic/manual and Secure/unsecure connection, and there is the window manu to select the com port (that is the same selected in Activesync settings).
Is that correct, or I should find a specific activesync icon (like PIM syncronizing ....)
Blinks....
SKID
Re: Activesync via Bluetooth
IceGoal said:
1. Install Active sync
2. Connect phone to USB cable and computer and let active Sync run once.
3. Disconnect USB cable.
4. On your Computers Bluetooth software (add a com port) before you detect the phone (very important).
5. On Active Sync on Computer click "connection Settings" and make sure it is using your com port from step 4.
6. Turn on discovery on your computer.
7. On your Phone go to Bluetooth / devices / New and select your computer enter pin on phone and PC.
8. Go to Active Sync on your phone and click "Connect via Bluetooth."
Hope this helps.
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FOLLOW THIS STEP BY STEP.... I HAVE DONE IT 3 TIMES FOR MYSELF AND FRIENDS ON DIFFERENT LAPTOPS AND IT WORKED FIRST TIME - EVERYTIME!!!
PS. Delete all existing pairings, relationships, COM ports etc, START FRESH!
THANKS MAN!
Re: Activesync via Bluetooth
IceGoal said:
1. Install Active sync
2. Connect phone to USB cable and computer and let active Sync run once.
3. Disconnect USB cable.
4. On your Computers Bluetooth software (add a com port) before you detect the phone (very important).
5. On Active Sync on Computer click "connection Settings" and make sure it is using your com port from step 4.
6. Turn on discovery on your computer.
7. On your Phone go to Bluetooth / devices / New and select your computer enter pin on phone and PC.
8. Go to Active Sync on your phone and click "Connect via Bluetooth."
Hope this helps.
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Thanks IceGoal, on my HP laptop it works superb.
But I have to say that those people that work on our mobile network provider company are uncapale, because they said that this is impossible to connect.
Thanks again folks.