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Bluetooth activesync - Can it Really be This Difficult????

I'm using - Dell laptop with integrated Dell bluetooth, XDA2 with original 1.03 rom, ActiveSync 3.7.1, Windows XP+SP2. I *AM* able to: synchronize fine with USB cradle, synchronize with IR, and beam files directly to the XDA2 from the laptop via bluetooth.
I have successfully: removed all traces of Widcomm, removed and reinstalled the plain old XP/SP2 BT drivers, have removed the pairings and re-created the device pairings successfully, removed and re-created the incoming COM port, renumbered my incoming COM port to 3, set ActiveSync to 'allow serial connection' to COM3, turned off XDA infrared, tried out "Pocket Bluetooth Tools" too, disabled my firewall. I moved my modem from COM3 to COM13. All the devices are 'working properly' according to control panel. Bluetooth switched to 'On' on XDA, once already paired. Bluetooth Devices/Options/Connections/Allow BT devices to connect is ticked.
Now I have tried to connect as documented in the many webpages on this subject, including GeekZone:
A. On the desktop - ActiveSync/File/Get connected... gives the message 'looking for mobile device on IR and COM3' but then nothing happens. After failing, it shows the list, and COM3 is 'available'.
B. On the XDA2 - Start/Settings/System/Bluetooth settings/Start activesync setup - gives message 'Please bond with device supporting serial port' - then takes me to the bonding screen. But I am already bonded successfully!
C. On the XDA2 - ActiveSync/Tools/Connect via BT with 'Laptop' - gives the message 'Cannot start communications with the desktop computer, critical error 608'.
As the pessimistic bobopopo recommended, I tried doing these last things repeatedly in every possible order!
Possible clues as to the problem:
1. I can't get the bluetooth icon to come up in the system tray. It comes up temporarily if I uninstall and reinstall the XP-SP2 drivers, then goes away next time I reset - even though the item 'Show the BT icon in the notification area' is always checked.
2. The first time I make a pairing, the word 'connected' appears below the icon for my XDA2 in the "Bluetooth Devices" dialog, on XP. Once it goes away, thereafter I am unable to get it to say 'connected' again. How can I get it to connect?
3. First time I bonded I got the Pocket Bluetooth Tools profiles dialog on the XDA2 - and ticked all the boxes, including serial port. Now I can't seem to get that screen back again?
4. On the XP machine, if I go to Control panel/Bluetooth Devices/Devices, select the XDA2 that is paired, then Properties/Services, I get only 'Dial up networking', and no exciting stuff like COM, OBEX, audio, PAN etc. - is this right?
5. If I go to Control Panel/Bluetooth Devices/COM ports/Add/Outgoing, and put Browse.., it searches for a while then says 'Windows cannot find any Bluetooth devices. Make sure it is switched on' etc.. although the device is clearly visible. So I can't create an outgoing COM port.
6. Can't beam files from XDA2 to Laptop: though XDA can see the other machine when you try to pair, it can't see it when you go to File/Send To/Infrared recipient - just empty dialog 'Searching...' forever. ('Accept incoming beams' is on and Bluetooth is on.)
????? Is it me or is it Microsoft ?????

mate,
reading through your post (although don't consider me an expert on this) it appears that you have the same problems i had before. bottomline? i discovered that windows xp service pack 2 screws up installation of bluetooth software. took me ages to figure this out but what i did was uninstall sp2 and went for sp1 instead. i've read several posts here and in other sites that sp2 doesn't really do well for bt apps...not sure if this is the same for the other chaps but it sure was for me. anyway; i uninstalled all bt software, uninstalled sp2; installed sp1 (reboot, etc), and from there proceeded with reinstalling my bt and activesync apps. from there i followed the guide given in geek zone and presto bt activesync.
the items you described in 1-6 definitely remind me of the sp2 trouble i had.
hope that helps.
cheers mate

I found that if I use the cradle to link to activesync this will create the partnership, then use the bluetooth next time and it will work, it seems you cannot get an original partnership over bluetooth.

I don't think its SP2 itself thats the problem. Its the Microsoft bt stack built into SP2.
You can actually run SP2 and the Widcomm bt stack. If you install Widcomm before SP2, then it won't install the Microsoft bt stack. I had the same problem and this resolved it.
The Microsoft bt stack in SP2 is Microsoft's first attempt at bluetooth. Looks like they still have work to do.
JD

Bluetooth activesync is easy IF YOUR NOT in Windows XP SP2!!! best thing to do is to downgrade to SP1.. unfortunately for me im stuck with SP2 in my desktop... but upon discovering this problem i never upgraded my laptop to SP2.. i left it with SP1 nd everything works in harmony...

MORAL LESSON OF THE STORY: NEVER UPDATE TO XP-SP2 if your using bluetooth activesync. :wink:

I've had no problems syncing over BT with SP1, SP2 MS stack and widcomm.
Here's how.
First of all delete any pairings on both PC and XDA.
Sync over USB then on the computer use connection settings to select the correct BT com port.
On the XDA goto Settings->System->Bluetooth->Start
Now repair your device and select ok till you get back to today screen
Goto activesync and then tools->sync over bt
Always has worked for me. If you're still having problems its quite possible that you haven't got the right ports setup on the PC.

YUP! it's all about the COM ports... SP2 gives out extremely high COM ports that activesync doesnt recognize...

Is your PC using...
1. SP2 + MS bluetoooth stack
2. SP2 + Widcomm bluetooth stack
I've followed the method laid out by fruitloaf many times, and only the 2nd combination works for me.
You might also want to consider upgrading from rom 1.03 if you can.
JD

fruitloaf said:
I've had no problems syncing over BT with SP1, SP2 MS stack and widcomm.
Here's how.
First of all delete any pairings on both PC and XDA.
Sync over USB then on the computer use connection settings to select the correct BT com port.
On the XDA goto Settings->System->Bluetooth->Start
Now repair your device and select ok till you get back to today screen
Goto activesync and then tools->sync over bt
Always has worked for me. If you're still having problems its quite possible that you haven't got the right ports setup on the PC.
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Fruitloaf, is yours an original Orange machine? I've heard this works with SP2 + MS stack, but the O2 Xda II doesn't.
JD

I had this problem constantly with my XDA II and a Toshiba Laptop. All routes of advice came to nought.
The answer for me was to install Pocket Bluetooth Tools, a BT connection manager which has a specific Activesync Profile. Using this has enabled me to use BT A/S with my Win XP Tablet SP2 PC without problems. You have to initiate the Activesync process from the XDA though.
Once you have installed BT Tools, and created an A/S profile using the cradle, go back to the XDA and delete all existing BT Pairings. Then go through the "Bluetooth / Paired Devices/ New routine again. After finding your PC, continuing will give a new Dialogue box with available pairing options. Select "Activesync" and finish. Do a soft reset.
From there, go to Start/Activesync, then tap Tools/Connect via Bluetooth and all should work.
I recommend using PBT Tols version 1.0.1.2 not the newer version, as the later version causes some power management problems with the XDA II.
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bluetooth virtual com port too high for activesync
I have a Belkin F8T001 v2 BT USB dongle. BT was working under win xp sp2 and could transfer file etc from PC to XDA IIs and back.
However I tried setting up a BT active sync connection and had the problem that the virtual com port picked by the belkin supplied widcomm BT driver was too high for activesync, it was com20. I followed this thread but could not uninstall the driver and use the driver from SP2 as it doesn't seem to support my belkin USB BT dongle. So I had to go back to the driver supplied by Belkin. I thought I was stuffed until I came across a post that sorted the problem, I'm afraid I dont have it to hand to give author the credit. But here is what he/she said to do.....
1. Disable bluetooth in device manager and remove the high numbered com port from device manager.
2. Then use regedit to change
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\COM name arbiter"
I followed the instructions and changed the first 3 entries in theComDB field to be "0f".
3. Enable Bluetooth in device manager
4. Use bluetooth settings -> local servies to add a new COM port, then set it to autostart in the profiles section.
This time it came up as com5, and bingo activesync could find it and I was off....
Hope this helps others with this problem, usual disclaiamer when fiddling with registry back it up and dont blame me if it doesn't work or your equipment goes up in smoke
Good luck, Wayne

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=3163
this guide works just fine for me

Marc MD said:
YUP! it's all about the COM ports... SP2 gives out extremely high COM ports that activesync doesnt recognize...
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That's is my problem, the high COM ports are not recognised by ActiveSync! I think i have 2 downgrade to SP1 and then upgrade again to SP2, hopefully that will work.
The BT drivers is not my problem but it's impossible to select the com port in activesync (but the com ports are visible in the device manager!).
Thanks to this forum for geving me hope , now i know what the problem is.

If you read my post with the registry change above I think you will find it will solve your problem, as I stated this was the only problem I was having with the BT driver.
This is a lot simpler than downgrading to SP1 etc.

AT last I done with this help and use widcomm Bluetooh Software 1.4.2 bulid 10 now my active snc work great with winxp sp2and wm2003se ..
just flow the thats:.....
This issue may occur because the Bluetooth drivers that are provided by Microsoft support a different set of profiles than the drivers that are provided by some third-party vendors. The Microsoft-provided drivers are also signed and will therefore be installed instead of a third-party driver for supported Bluetooth adapters. The Windows XP SP2 Setup program will try to detect if a third-party driver is present. If the third-party driver is installed, the Microsoft-provided Bluetooth drivers will not install. This action makes sure that an existing configuration is not modified. If both provided drivers were installed, and the Bluetooth Radio were connected to the computer, the Microsoft-provided driver would load because it is signed.
If the missing functionality is critical, you may restore the third-party support. To do this, follow these steps.
Note The following steps assume that the third-party software is installed. If it is not, install the software according to the manufacturer's instructions. Then follow these steps from the point in the installation process where the adapter is connected to the computer.
1. Click Start, and then click Run, type devmgmt.msc, and then click OK.
2. Locate and then expand Bluetooth Radios.
3. Right-click the Bluetooth adapter, and then click Properties.
4. On the Driver tab, click Update Driver.
5. Install the updated driver manually by using the Have disk option in the wizard. Locate the manufacturer's installation files, and then find the .inf file that is required to install the driver.
6. Complete the manufacturer's software installation steps.
At this point, the third-party provided drivers should work. If at any point you re-enumerate the Bluetooth adapter, the Microsoft driver will be reinstalled, and you must repeat the procedure. This issue will occur only if the third-party driver is removed or if another model adapter installed.

thats link is for bluetooth software v 1.4.2.10
http://asia.giga-byte.com/Communication/FileList/Driver/btd01.v.1.4.2.10.zip

i've tried everything but it still gives out high COM ports...

Marc MD said:
i've tried everything but it still gives out high COM ports...
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Go to device Manager, find those high Com Ports, choose Properties - Advanced and at the COM port number choose a low one, Like COM3 etc. Don't bother if it say that it is alreaddy in use...
The go to Active Sync and in the Connection Settings choose from the drop down menu COM 3...
Go to the Activesync in you XDA, in the Options choose connect using Bluetooth and the... click on Connect via Bluetooth from the XDA...
You're done...

I have an O2 Xda II Mini (Magician) and I am using an XMicro Dongle on my laptop (Win XP with SP2) and ActiveSync3.8. Initially syncing with BT was a problem but now its not a problem at all.
To reduce the COM port nos. on your computer try the following website
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315539
Once you can see the hidden devices and ports delete/uninstall all the ports which are not in use.
1 To sync with BT first delete all your pairing with your computer and phone on both devices.
2 Go to BT Manager on your phone and click both check boxes for Inbound and Outbound COM ports and pair the devices.
3 Once they are paired go to BT manager again and click on the start button (for BT activesync setup) and pair the devices again if you have to.
4 Once that is done check on the computer in BT Manager click on the phone device>property>services....the Serial Port Profile (SPP) "Serial Port COM4" will be checked.
5 After that on the computer's BT Manager itself ensure that the COM ports folder shows incoming and outgoing ports with the phone's name in front.
6 On the ActiveSync (on the ocmputer) ensure that the COM port no. is the same as the Incoming COM port no. given in step 5 above and it being shown as available. Sometimes if it is unavailable, the computer needs to be rebooted and then it will be shown as available.
7 Click on ActiveSync thru BT on the phone and it should work.
It has been working for me since the past couple of weeks. Initially it took a lot of time to set up but now even if the pairing gets deleted or something messes up its working fine. One thing to remember is that in case you are using a dongle with a laptop ensure that the dongle is plugged in BEFORE you boot up the laptop. A lot of people plug it in later and then ActiveSync on the computer shows the COM ports as unavailable.
Hope this helps.

Bluetooth Activesync with Jam & Xp Sp2?

Has anyone managed to activesync the Jam via bt, with xp service pack2 (that needs no drivers for bt)? I have tried a lot, and followed some guides on the internet, but nothing done yet I have a german mda compact, with englidh imate tom 1.03.

Maybe this helps :wink: MOD EDIT: Personalised URL link removed

that's what i have done, but when i press activesync via bluetooth, it sais that cannot connect to this port, because is already in use or not valid

Tonight i have 2 setup all the stuff again because i reinstalled my compu. I'll check if everything in the tutorial is ok... :wink: (I'm almost sure there some wrong things in it :? )

ok thanks

I also have no success with ActiveSync / Bluetooth / WinXP-SP2
Bluetooth works although. Using the WinXP SP2 bluetooth icon (bottom right next to the clock), I can 'Send A File' to the MDA. The file nicely ends up in 'My Documents' in the MDA.
So, Bluetooth on the WinXP-SP2 and MDA machines both work.
But, ActiveSync, no way. Activesync on the pc just does not want to detect the MDA. I already changed the BT com ports to 4 and 5 because I read somewhere ActiveSync only accepts ports from 1 up to 9.
Is there somebody who actually got WinXP-SP2 and the MDA working with Activesync?

i found this, but i have not tried it yet. i will try at noon.
http://www.mobismart.net/forums/Default.aspx?g=posts&m=2276

what a french forum? great! lol

Works fine for me.
Set up a COM port on your computer, then selecdt that port in ActiveSync. Pair the two devices to create a Bluetooth link. Then run ActiveSync->Tools->Connect via Bluetooth... on your Magician.
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Works fine for me 2. So the issue is not SP2. It has more to do with your Bluetooth or ActiveSync configuration I think. Can you pair the devices to start with?

Same here, works perfect on Windows XP SP2 using the previous 3.7.1 and the new 3.8 ActiveSync on bluetooth.

I had gone through much pain with the Widcomm (not sure about spelling anymore) driver installed but without any success in getting my Dopod818 activesync to work.
So I uninstalled it, and let WinXP SP2 detect the USB BT device again and download by itself the SP2 driver. Then followed the steps in Benjamin's MDA Howto article above (with the only exceptions being that you don't need to set the incoming and outgoing serials as com4 and com5 on your PC), now my Dopod818 is activesyncing with my PC flawlessly.

I tried everything both with Widcomm and Microsoft bluetooth
I think the problem is related with my MDA Compact. When I go to ActiveSync on MDA and choose connnect via bluetooth - it does not give any connection message. With IRDA or USB it says "Connecting to host". Probably something wrong with MDA setup. I have T-Mobile English WWE 1.01.00, ROM version - I'l try to upgrade to newer ROM and then check

Re: I tried everything both with Widcomm and Microsoft bluet
vanvan said:
I think the problem is related with my MDA Compact. When I go to ActiveSync on MDA and choose connnect via bluetooth - it does not give any connection message. With IRDA or USB it says "Connecting to host". Probably something wrong with MDA setup. I have T-Mobile English WWE 1.01.00, ROM version - I'l try to upgrade to newer ROM and then check
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I had a hard time configuring ActiveSync to work through Bluetooth but it finally worked (with XP SP2 and not with Widcomm). I think the trick when using XP SP2 bluetooth stack is in the bluetooth pairing process (which is skipped in the Benjamin's guide).
The problem I think is that when the two devices are paired (the MDA and the PC) the MDA does not recognize the SPP (serial port profile) service of the PC and it does not assign the “Bluetooth Outbound com port” to the SPP service of the PC.
The steps that worked for me are the following:
1) Delete the device pairing from both the PC and the MDA (if you have
done the pairing before).
2) At the MDA go to Settings -> System -> Bluetooth settings and make sure the Outbound COM port checkbox is checked.
3) At the PC: open Bluetooth settings, go to COM ports, and add an incoming port (press the Add button and select incoming - nothing more).
(I call this port COM7 but it could be any other com port that your system assigns to the added port)
4) At the PC: add a new Bluetooth device (start the wizard) and follow the normal steps to pair the PC with the MDA. The MDA will notify you of the new paired device - press OK - do nothing special.
4) At the PC's ActiveSyc connection settings select the proper com port (COM7: the incoming com port created at step 3 above).
5) Run on the MDA the ActiveSyct and select the Connect via Bluetooth...
hope it works
My understanding (although I just got my first Pocket PCs) of the connection process is the following:
The ActiveSync on the MDA opens the "bluetooth outbound com port" (COM5) when you select the "Connect via Bluetooth".
This port must be assigned to a SPP (serial port profile) service of another bluetooth device (in our case the SPP service offered by the PC with the XP SP2 bluetooth stack. Note that the SPP service on the PC is connected to a com port (COM7 in my case)). If the Outbound com port (COM5) on the MDA is not assigned to a remote device then you get that error saying ActiveSyct can not open the port (when you try to Connect via Bluetooth)
Assuming that the MDA's COM5 is assigned to the PC's SPP service, when opening MDA's COM5 ActiveSync gets connected to the com port (COM7) on the PC.
On the other side, the ActiveSync on the PC is set to use COM7 as a connection port and it detectes the connection which is now opened.
The MDA's "bluetooth incoming com port" (COM4) as well as the bluetooth "Outgoing" com port created on the PC seams to play no role in the hole process.
atsois.

just wanna say i got it working with ms drivers and a very cheap bt dongle!
similar to atsois and leskip methods...
i setup the incoming com port in bluetooth settings and assigned activesync to that port BEFORE any pairing took place
i tried pairing from the PC, but no luck.. but when I paired from the phone, it worked!
excellent, thanks for all the help!

Before Activesync 3.8, mine would only work one time per reboot of the desktop PC. After installing Activesync 3.8, Bluetooth Activesync works everytime!

dj_linz6 said:
just wanna say i got it working with ms drivers and a very cheap bt dongle!
similar to atsois and leskip methods...
i setup the incoming com port in bluetooth settings and assigned activesync to that port BEFORE any pairing took place
i tried pairing from the PC, but no luck.. but when I paired from the phone, it worked!
excellent, thanks for all the help!
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Thank you. I couldn´t make it work, but then I tried to pair the devices from the MDA - and it worked fine!
// Anders

activesync/bluetooth tutorial

Hi, I just can't make the activesync over bluetooth work with my laptop (widcomm) and my magician (qtek s100).
the devices are paired enough, and I can see the serial port on the phone from the laptop, but when active sync starts to search for the connection, it loses the connection (the serial port is listed as not connected in the "my bt places").
Any tips/hints? Is something wrong on one of the machines? I will try to see if I can test with some other devices...

try this --> http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=f18b052a41d1d7b711c2b97ecd926005&threadid=544932
You can skip the step on installing and using the BT Tools.
cheers :wink:

Thanks, but that doesn't work for me...
I can pair allright, but I am unable to sync...

have you updated to the latest ROM for your s100? I noticed after updating my JAM that I do not need BTH tools anymore to activesync over BT.

Hi
have an O2 XDA II Mini (Magician) and I am using an XMicro Dongle on my laptop (Win XP with SP2....I am using the in built Microsoft BT stack which comes with SP2) and ActiveSync3.8. Initially syncing with BT was a problem but now its not a problem at all.
First you have to make sure that the COM port nos. selected by ActiveSync are less than 10 bcoz there is some bug due to which ActiveSync will not support COM ports above COM9.
To reduce the COM port nos. on your computer try the following website
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315539
Once you can see the hidden devices and ports delete/uninstall all the ports which are not in use.
To ActiveSync.....the following steps might help....
1 To sync with BT first delete all your pairing with your computer and phone on both devices.
2 Go to BT Manager on your phone and click both check boxes for Inbound and Outbound COM ports and pair the devices.
3 Once they are paired go to BT manager (on the phone) again and click on the start button (for BT ActiveSync setup) and pair the devices again if you have to.
4 Once that is done make sure that on the computer in BT Settings the the Serial Port Profile (SPP) "Serial Port COM4" is checked.Click on the phone device>property>services.
5 After that on the computer's BT Manager itself ensure that the COM ports folder shows incoming and outgoing ports with the phone's name in front.
6 Open ActiveSync (on the computer) ensure that the COM port no. is the same as the Incoming COM port no. given in step 5 above and it being shown as available. Sometimes if it is unavailable, the computer needs to be rebooted and then it will be shown as available.
7 Click on ActiveSync thru BT on the phone and it should work.
8 Whenever you wanna disconnect ActiveSync press stop on the compouter to disconnect.
It has been working for me since the past couple of weeks. Initially it took a lot of time to set up but now even if the pairing gets deleted or something messes up its working fine.
One thing to remember is that in case you are using a dongle with a laptop ensure that the dongle is plugged in BEFORE you boot up the laptop. A lot of people plug it in later and then ActiveSync on the computer shows the COM ports as unavailable.
I hope this helps.
All the best!

Bluetooth Internet Connection to my Imate??

Hi all, tis my first post so please help.
Can i connect my Jam to my computer using bluetooth connectivity and then use my computer's internet connection to connect to the internet from my Jam?
If it is possible please Help me...

Just connect to AS on your PC via BT and your Jam will automaticaly use your computer's connection (this is called passthrough).

Does anyone know how to get passthrough to work is AS is via a Citrix session?

sheraz2000 said:
Hi all, tis my first post so please help.
Can i connect my Jam to my computer using bluetooth connectivity and then use my computer's internet connection to connect to the internet from my Jam?
If it is possible please Help me...
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Well...It's a bit complicated but I'll try to write it down clearly, and easy...
I'm Hungarian (using Hungarian Windows) so I don't know some description from other languaged Windows. But I try to translate it properly...
So the solution:
What you need:
- The first thing you need is a Bluesoleil BT driver. It is a special Bluetooth Stack, and you're able to build a PAN (Personal Area Network) with is.
- The second stuff you need is a patch for the original MS Stack.You can add COM Ports with it.
- Active Sync 4.1
- A BT USB Donlge which has a PAN service.
Let's start it:
1. Install the BT Stacks to your magician.
2. Put your USB Bluetooth Dongle to your PC.
(It's not necessary to install the driver if you use Windows XP)
3. Open the "Bluetooth Devices" from: Start -> Settings -> Faxes and other hardwares -> Bluetooth Devices.
4. Search for your PPC.
5. Specify an "Incoming Port" (ex.: Com Port 8 Incoming).
6. Go to your PPC, use the patched MS Stack and specify an "Outgoing Port" (ex.: Com port 5 Outgoing).
7. Open Active Sync 4.1, and check the "Allow Usb connections" checkbox
8. Configure the "Allow connections on this port" to your Outgoing Port (ex.: If you use COM 5 for Outgiong port on your PPC, then config tihs option on your PC to the COM 5)
9. Configure the "This computer connects to the" dialog to "The Internet".
10. Change the BT Stack on your PPC with "Bluetooth Switch" (you'll need to perform a soft reset)
11. After Soft reset start Bluesoleil Stack and search for the USB Dongle.Double click on the PC icon to search services.
12. In services choose PAN network.
Your device will try to connect to your PC, and if it's connected run Active Sync via BT.If this is comleted, you should be able to connect to the internet from your PPC, and you can use MSN Messenger too if you have.
COMPLETE!!!
If you can't understand a step clearly (beacuse I've mistyped something, of translated it wrong etc.) write down what is it and I try to explain it more detailed.
If you have problems with this solution, reply it to me and I'll make a How To Do.PDF with pictures in it

HyperMalac said:
Well...It's a bit complicated but I'll try to write it down clearly, and easy...
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It doesn't have to use Bluesoleil BT stack at all. The MS stack comes w/ yr magician can do the BT ActiveSync without any problem. U could check my old post in a month ago for steps to do BT ActiveSync.

jackleung said:
HyperMalac said:
Well...It's a bit complicated but I'll try to write it down clearly, and easy...
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It doesn't have to use Bluesoleil BT stack at all. The MS stack comes w/ yr magician can do the BT ActiveSync without any problem. U could check my old post in a month ago for steps to do BT ActiveSync.
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Well, I tried a 1000 times, but I can not do a bt Active Sync via BT.But I've tried Bluesoleil Stack and it works good for me.

HyperMalac said:
Well, I tried a 1000 times, but I can not do a bt Active Sync via BT.But I've tried Bluesoleil Stack and it works good for me.
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The trick is to start the pairing on the pda from within AS.

HyperMalac said:
jackleung said:
HyperMalac said:
Well...It's a bit complicated but I'll try to write it down clearly, and easy...
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It doesn't have to use Bluesoleil BT stack at all. The MS stack comes w/ yr magician can do the BT ActiveSync without any problem. U could check my old post in a month ago for steps to do BT ActiveSync.
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Well, I tried a 1000 times, but I can not do a bt Active Sync via BT.But I've tried Bluesoleil Stack and it works good for me.
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Hmmm so where do i get this "Bluesoleil Stack" and once i get my Jam Connected to my PC thru Active Sync, CAN I NOW USE THE INTERNET ?? or does it needs some settings on my JAM.

i've always used MS$ bt stack with AS and surf without any problems.

My BT dongle is built by IVT corp, somehow I can't use MS BT stack so I have to install BlueSoleil to make it work.
So here's my problem...
PC: BlueSoleil 1.6.1.4 has only com ports 18-28 (can't add ports)
PPC: has only com ports 4 & 5 (can't add ports)
ActiveSync: Allows only com 1 & 2
How can you add ports so I can use the same for both PC and PPC?
6. Go to your PPC, use the patched MS Stack and specify an "Outgoing Port" (ex.: Com port 5 Outgoing).
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Can you please give more details how to use the MS Stack on the PPC?

Dice said:
How can you add ports so I can use the same for both PC and PPC?
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Why U need to have this requirement??? The port# for both end independant. Eg: The AS on my desktop using Com4 and the AS on the PPC may use Com5.

IT's POSSIBLE to Navigate with Magician via BT with his ORIGINAL BT Stack.
The only "bug" is that there isn't a PAN.
Look HERE

jackleung said:
Dice said:
How can you add ports so I can use the same for both PC and PPC?
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Why U need to have this requirement??? The port# for both end independant. Eg: The AS on my desktop using Com4 and the AS on the PPC may use Com5.
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6. Go to your PPC, use the patched MS Stack and specify an "Outgoing Port" (ex.: Com port 5 Outgoing).
7. Open Active Sync 4.1, and check the "Allow Usb connections" checkbox
8. Configure the "Allow connections on this port" to your Outgoing Port (ex.: If you use COM 5 for Outgiong port on your PPC, then config tihs option on your PC to the COM 5)
My PPC has only outgoing com port 5 while Active Sync can only connect to com ports 1 & 2. I need to match them right?
SkizZO said:
IT's POSSIBLE to Navigate with Magician via BT with his ORIGINAL BT Stack.
The only "bug" is that there isn't a PAN.
Look HERE
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Thanks for the reply, the problem is that my bluetooth recognizes only ports 18-29. I don't have any hidden/unused ports already checked it.

Dice, try to find out which important com-ports are used at all, write them down to paper, then take upper one and change down step by step each port lookslike busy, but free (don`t change important com-ports )! this way free your ports. then uninstall bluesoleil, reboot , and install bluesoleil again, reboot and you will see all bluetooth ports for bluesoleil in lower position. check ports in Activesync if its won`t be there reinstall Activesync 4.1!

Dice said:
8. Configure the "Allow connections on this port" to your Outgoing Port (ex.: If you use COM 5 for Outgiong port on your PPC, then config tihs option on your PC to the COM 5)
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My PPC has only outgoing com port 5 while Active Sync can only connect to com ports 1 & 2. I need to match them right?
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I didn't read that guide. But step 8 is definitately misleading! As I said before, they are indenpendant and doesn't have to be match.
For our magician, the outgoing port is FIXED to com5. On the PC, the Com port number can be anything depends on what COM port is assigned as Serial connection for yr BT stack. Eg. I need to use Com 4 when I am using the Widcomm BT driver. But I need to use Com7 when I was trying the Tosbhiba BT stack. So, test them out if U are not sure what com port is using on yr PC for serial connection.

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Dice said:
8. Configure the "Allow connections on this port" to your Outgoing Port (ex.: If you use COM 5 for Outgiong port on your PPC, then config tihs option on your PC to the COM 5)
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My PPC has only outgoing com port 5 while Active Sync can only connect to com ports 1 & 2. I need to match them right?
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I didn't read that guide. But step 8 is definitately misleading! As I said before, they are indenpendant and doesn't have to be match.
For our magician, the outgoing port is FIXED to com5. On the PC, the Com port number can be anything depends on what COM port is assigned as Serial connection for yr BT stack. Eg. I need to use Com 4 when I am using the Widcomm BT driver. But I need to use Com7 when I was trying the Tosbhiba BT stack. So, test them out if U are not sure what com port is using on yr PC for serial connection.
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Sorry, if I mislead you.I use Bluesoleil Stack, and I've matched the ports and it works.After I tried it on different ports and it worked too.
AND ONE MORE THING:
I've tried an easier way to surf on the net via BT.But it still uses Bluesoleil ...
- All you need is just simply open Bluesoleil Stack on the PPC.
- Then on the PC go to Bluetooth Settings and start pairing the PPC.
- After the pairing scan for the Computer services on the PPC and if all thing are works well you get "PAN" option.Connect and you're Done!
All guys who says it is not necessary to get Bluesoleil Stack:
My dongle is an IVT BT Dongle and I can't use the original stack to surf the net.But if you say it's possible on some BT Dongles I believe it.
bolasz:
Thanks for the trick (start pairing from PDA).I'll try it and post the result
sheraz2000:
I've linked the Bluesoleil Stack, so you can download it.
I think you can use the internet without any setting on the JAM.If you can't use the net, try to set your firewall.
Well thats for today and once again sorry for the misleading.

Many thanks to those who replied.
I'm also using the IVT BT dongle. Looks like I need to use Bluesoleil to make it work. I've already managed to connected to PAN. I've already allowed Internet Connection sharing on my computer and disabled firewall but still can't surf the net
Are there any settings I need to change in the PAN?

Dice said:
My BT dongle is built by IVT corp, somehow I can't use MS BT stack so I have to install BlueSoleil to make it work.
So here's my problem...
PC: BlueSoleil 1.6.1.4 has only com ports 18-28 (can't add ports)
PPC: has only com ports 4 & 5 (can't add ports)
ActiveSync: Allows only com 1 & 2
How can you add ports so I can use the same for both PC and PPC?
6. Go to your PPC, use the patched MS Stack and specify an "Outgoing Port" (ex.: Com port 5 Outgoing).
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Can you please give more details how to use the MS Stack on the PPC?
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You can force the IVT dongles to use the WIDCOMM stack as opposed to the Bluesoleil one. I couldn't find the thread I used on GSM-Forum, but I had a copy saved...
Basically all you do is:
0. Uninstall all your bluetooth software. Unplug the Dongle for this step
1. Download Widcomm 4.0.1.700 from here: http://www.mobidick.biz/downloads.shtml
2. Download Billyx's Patches from here: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=179871
3. SP2 Users: (i dont know if this step does anything, but i read somewhere to do it, and it everything worked for me. Though it might work if you skip this step)
Go to Start -> Run ->write "msconfig" (without the quotes) and press enter. Go to the services tab and uncheck Bluetooth Service. Then hit OK. You might wanna restart, i think i did step 4 before doing that though.
4. Install Widcomm. Make sure the Dongle is plugged in it should recognise the dongle and it began installing the issc drivers. Restart PC
(at this point widcomm should be blue and red, and asking for the dreadful license.)
5. Restart PC in Safe Mode. Use Billyx's patch to overwrite the files in C:\Program Files\WIDCOMM\Bluetooth Software using the 2 .EXEs
and files in C:\WINDOWS\system32 using the .DLLs
6. Restart, and bluetooth should now be blue and white.
7. Connect your devices. Begin using them
You're done!!
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Hi,
I am successfully setup ActiveSync via bluetooth (and get internet access by activesync) using below method. No need to install stack or anything to PPC. I forgot where I found it, but I copied the step already.
To the author of this step, apologize me to paste your post here without your permission. My intention is to help others. Since I am success with this step, I share with others.
Here is the steps:
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1)On your PC go to the Control Panel and select "Bluetooth". In the "Options" tab, make sure all the ticks are on. You'll now see a little bluetooth icon on your system tray. Makes it easier to access in the future. Your PC should also be ready to be found as long as you ticked the fist box in the step above.
2)On your Jam, Go to Start, Settings, System (Tab), Bluetooth Settings. On the screen that comes up you ONLY want to hit start. Leave the incoming and outgoing checkboxes OFF!!!
3)You will now be taken to the partnership screen, where you just follow the instructions to add your PC. Follow through until you hit finish. Close everything down until you're back at the today screen.
4)Back to your PC, double click on the Bluetooth icon in your system tray. Go to "Com Ports" (Tab) and click "Add". Choose incoming. A You'll see an incoming port added to the list (probably be the only item there). It should look like "COM X Incoming"
Remember what number is after COM. Close all windows, making sure you hit OK or Apply where you have to.
5)Open Active Sync on your PC. Hit File, Connection Settings. Enable the first tick, and select the COM port you had to remember in the previous step. Hit OK
6)Open Active Sync on your Jam. Choose Tools, Connect Via Bluetooth.
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Hope this is helpful!
Regards,
Arto.

Dice said:
Many thanks to those who replied.
I'm also using the IVT BT dongle. Looks like I need to use Bluesoleil to make it work. I've already managed to connected to PAN. I've already allowed Internet Connection sharing on my computer and disabled firewall but still can't surf the net
Are there any settings I need to change in the PAN?
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If the PAN setup succesful, then click on the ActiveSync icon in the Bluesoleil "Bluetotth Manager" on the JAM.
I think now you surf the net from the PPC.
Reply if something is worng and you still cannot surf the net

Big problem with Activesync by Bluetooth on JasJar

Hi,
I have already red more forum on this question.
I have e problem trying to connect to ActiveSync by bluetooth .
When I pair my JasJar to PC not appear the service "ActiveSync", but "Serial Port".
Therefore ActiveSync, on JJ, can't connect to my PC.
I have already configure ActiveSync on PC to connect on right Com port.
Please help me, i have lost some night to try it.

had same problem,you have to get rid of all phantom bt ports there is some stuff on windows support

Thanks for reply,
How can I remove phantom bt port?

Pozzame said:
Hi,
I have already red more forum on this question.
I have e problem trying to connect to ActiveSync by bluetooth .
When I pair my JasJar to PC not appear the service "ActiveSync", but "Serial Port".
Therefore ActiveSync, on JJ, can't connect to my PC.
I have already configure ActiveSync on PC to connect on right Com port.
Please help me, i have lost some night to try it.
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Please, can someone help me?

On my computer and Universal, I find it easy to setup BT Active Sync if I activate the setup on the Universal first using active sync app. There is an option within the active sync app to sync via BT. The computer will then recognize the device and will ask you if you want to pair it. On the other hand, if I try to pair them beginning with my computer to search for the Universal, after pairing and ticking all necessary boxes, it still won't sync.
After pairing and ticking all necessary boxes. Make sure you reset BOTH your computer and the Universal.

The problem is that when I pair my Universal to PC, not appear the service "ActiveSync", but "Serial Port".
I've already tried to delete everything and reinstall bluetooth pen, with his drivers and with windows drivers, and ActiveSync too.
I've also deleted all pairs and all port on Universal.
But I've not obtained any result.
I don't know what to make.
Can someone help me?
Please.

Nobody has had my same problem?
Any idea, please?

I had the same problem until I upgraded from Toshiba BT stack to Wildcomm BT Drivers stack (4.0.1.700).

Things I have learned:
- If UNI is connected via USB then AS service will not show in device pairing on PPC.
- You need to create an incoming COM port on PC and set AS to allow connections to this port.

raad said:
I had the same problem until I upgraded from Toshiba BT stack to Wildcomm BT Drivers stack (4.0.1.700).
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I haven't change the bletooth stack.
Until some week it makes worked regularly, but an evening, I was configuring my Laptop to use the JJ like BT modem, when the AciveSync service has begun not to recognize more like such, but like “Serial Port”.
I've already tried to delete everything and reinstall bluetooth pen, with his drivers and with windows drivers, and ActiveSync too.
I've also deleted all pairs and all port on Universal.
But I've not obtained any result.
Yesterday, I have tried the synchronization with an other PC with a fresh installation of windows, but the result has been the same one.
Therefore the problem is on JJ, even in the registry.
I don't know what to make.
Please, can someone help me?

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Don't know if this will help and I claim no credit because this solution was written in some other threads. For the universal with a Toshiba bluetooth on your PC:
first, pair your Universal with your PC, you get "serial"
On your PC, create the following "bluetooth local com" (Control panel)
- COM7 Toshiba BT Port (COM7) LocalCOM-Server[SerialPort(TOSHIBA LOcalCOM)]
- COM6 Toshiba BT Port (COM6) LocalCOM-Client
In your activesync, allow connection to COM7
Now comes the fun part. On your universal, go to your bluetooth settings, devices, edit your device and press "Refresh", possibly more than once. Serial Port will change to ActiveSync.
It worked for me.
Eric

Also got to the control panel on PC and delete the bluetooth modem that was created. When u add a new incoming port on PC make sure it's not COM8 because that is used by JJ for USB modem connections.

same on treo 750v
I have the exact same problem on my Palm treo 750v. Searched the whole internet for a solution and found some other people with the same problem but no resolution. The only recommendation that seems to work is to do a hard-reset.
The problem started on my device after I played around with the Soft GPS port. It seems that it screwed up some COM port references for good...

I had the same problem on my notebook with Toshiba's BT drivers. I uninstalled them and connected an external USB BT which fired up the MS default BT stack.
After I completed the pairing using Bluetooth Devices (in control panel) and clicking Add in the devices tab, I used the COM Ports tab and added an incoming port and copied the number of this com port in the AS connection settings.
Now, I initiated the AS over BT from the Jasjar and it said something like "it cannot find the service or whatever and would you like to create one". I clicked yes, when it took me to the list of paired devices. From here I did what leblan has also noted "your device and press "Refresh", possibly more than once. Serial Port will change to ActiveSync." I too found that the serial port changed to ActiveSync. The key, IMHO is to hit that "Refresh" button; i.e. once your device and PC are paired and connected, going to the BT devices and editing (press & hold)the device name (the notebook or PC in this case) you will get the services which will initially say serial port, but when you click refresh, it will change to AS.

jj activesync via microsoft bluetooth stack
both from PC and JJ :
delete eventually existing pair between them;
from PC:
if there isn't create a local service COM port. I created COM8 not protected, automatic start;
from PC activesync:
remove flag both for USB and other connections;
from JJ activesync:
try to connect, it ask for pairing, reply yes;
In "mode" flag on turn on bluetooth & make this device visible;
search for new devices, when PC has discovered complete the pairing;
after paired, you can see a serial port and other PC's services;
stay there;
from PC activesync:
now turn flag on other connections setting COM8;
from JJ:
refresh and You can see that serial port begin activesync;
tip OK for close all bluetooth setting windows, You are redirected in activesync.
enjoy start to sync

15hours of crying and knocking the device. i've successfully fixed it...
i did this (credits to google)..
Delete all paired bluetooth devices from PC and from MOBILE.
CAUTION - USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK <--- I used a registry editor for the mobile phone (google for regeditSTG2) and opened the Branch "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\ActiveSync" There might be a Key with a hex-String like this "0016cxxxxxx" --> delete it. Change the View to display the values in this Registry Branch, then delete the "LastConnected" Value and set the "Initialized" value to "0"
Turn bluetooth OFF>ON
Pair from PC
Confirm on DEVICE (dont need to select anything just enter code and press OK)
Go START->Active Sync->Connect via Bluetooth
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Voilla worked for me..
hope this helps someone else