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TomTom Navigator 2.24 with Jeff's WM2003?

I am holding of on updating my o2 XDA to the Windows Mobile 2003 version from Jeff's Kitchen, because I want to make sure I can keep using my main application: TomTom Navigator.
According to tomtom.com, version 2.24 should work with Windows Mobile 2003. Has anyone verified this with the 4.00.05 from Jeff's Kitchen?
As the maps are of course stored on an SD card, will it be safe to use TomTom with WM2003 due to the "erase card" issue?
Thanks!

well if you have a SD flash reader for your pc you could always backup the maps before trying
if you dont have a flash reader for your pc and would like one
they come in external versions
http://www.sandisk.com/consumer/sixinone.asp
and internal versions
http://www.apacer.com/apacer_english/product_html/embedded_card_reader20.asp
since your sd cards could get flushed down the toilet and i'm sure a empty flash card would be less expensive then a sd card with maps on
it would be a good thing to back them up no matter what

Yes it will work since I've used all the 4.x ROMs and the first things which get installed is Tomtom 2.24!
It works perfectly!
And you can update your ROM without losing the info on your SD card. So after the ROM update you only have to install the tomtom software and it will find the map(s) on your SD card automatically.
About the erase bug: I never experienced it with any of the 4.x ROMs. So no info about that.

works fine on 4.00.01 update

jkjk said:
As the maps are of course stored on an SD card, will it be safe to use TomTom with WM2003 due to the "erase card" issue?
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You could use the lock switch on the SD-card too...

Yes, I thought of that, but:
- I figured that maybe TomTom needs to write to the SD as well (save some settings in or around map data)
- As the switch is merely a software thing as far as I know (a device "should not write" to the card when the switch is on), I wonder if a faulty ROM is still able to erase the card

@autora13:
i does work perfectly? hmmm. i use 4.00.01 and tomtom 2.24 but have the following problem:
when i start it it always says: "gps position unreliable" or something in that kind. but the sat signal is ok. i have to go to "card view" and not "navigator view" to make it work so it can find your position. then i go back to "navigator view" and i works flawlessly.
any idea?
regards ize|man

Never had that problem, sorry...

me neither mine works fine as it always has done just like on ppc2002

I am using the old 2003 version that was on her about 6 weeks ago, I have a "slippery" version of tomtom v2 and that works fine on my XDA i just removed the sd card with the maps on it, upgraded to 2003 then reinstalled my v2 put back in the SD card and thats it. It all works as it did befor

izeman said:
@autora13:
i does work perfectly? hmmm. i use 4.00.01 and tomtom 2.24 but have the following problem:
when i start it it always says: "gps position unreliable" or something in that kind. but the sat signal is ok. i have to go to "card view" and not "navigator view" to make it work so it can find your position. then i go back to "navigator view" and i works flawlessly.
any idea?
regards ize|man
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Had the same problem...
You probably used the wrong crack.
I used the warm3ch crack and it works fine now.....

Could you please let me know where i can find the crack you mentioned as i only have the crack for V2.01 and not V2.24
Thanks

It's on Edonkey......
TomTom.Navigator.2.24.crack.by.WARM3CH.21July03.zip
(531 KB)
(544 KB)

maxlw said:
It's on Edonkey......
TomTom.Navigator.2.24.crack.by.WARM3CH.21July03.zip
(531 KB)
(544 KB)
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who can mail me this..
[email protected]

TT 5.2 WM5

http://www.tomtom.com/support/index.php?Language=1&FID=3361

Interesting that it says:
"TomTom NAVIGATOR is now compatible with Microsoft Windows™ MOBILE 5.0 devices. See the compatibility list for more information."
And when you go to the list there are no WM5 devices in there :shock:

...but it works :wink:

btw, you don't need to have TT 5 already installed on the system ...just install this verison (5.21) and create a "Voices" directory with your voices files in the root of the ppc ...that's all

mdkia said:
btw, you don't need to have TT 5 already installed on the system ...just install this verison (5.21) and create a "Voices" directory with your voices files in the root of the ppc ...that's all
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Does that mean you have to register this update with TomTom to prove you're a legitimate user? I guess so.
Still waiting for an official (tested and accepted ) update before I upgrade my legit v3 to a legit v5. (Currently running a cracked version cos I'm not happy that TT5 is working properly on WM5, or even that TT5 is the best solution any more :roll: )

mdkia said:
btw, you don't need to have TT 5 already installed on the system ...just install this verison (5.21) and create a "Voices" directory with your voices files in the root of the ppc ...that's all
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Does that mean you can do it on the storage card: "My Device\Storage Card\Voices"; or does it have to be on the "PPC: My Device\Voices" ???

SiliconS said:
Does that mean you have to register this update with TomTom to prove you're a legitimate user? I guess so.
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you need to have the original activation code provided by TT

BillB said:
Does that mean you can do it on the storage card: "My Device\Storage Card\Voices"; or does it have to be on the "PPC: My Device\Voices" ???
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I have it on \Voices ...dunno if it works on the SD too

So what is different about this version. Or should I say what is fixed in this version? Does it keep the screen in the current screen mode (i.e. VGA or does it reset the screen to it's own bidged semi VGA size).

SiliconS said:
mdkia said:
btw, you don't need to have TT 5 already installed on the system ...just install this verison (5.21) and create a "Voices" directory with your voices files in the root of the ppc ...that's all
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Does that mean you have to register this update with TomTom to prove you're a legitimate user? I guess so.
Still waiting for an official (tested and accepted ) update before I upgrade my legit v3 to a legit v5. (Currently running a cracked version cos I'm not happy that TT5 is working properly on WM5, or even that TT5 is the best solution any more :roll: )
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I've installed it twice now and when I go to TomTom Version it still says its version 5.1 anyone else with the same problem, or does someone know something I dont like you have to remove all of tomtom first ????

CarlnAdele said:
I've installed it twice now and when I go to TomTom Version it still says its version 5.1 anyone else with the same problem, or does someone know something I dont like you have to remove all of tomtom first ????
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version 5.210 (5430) ...but i did a clean install

OK this is strange and i need some help....
i installed the app in my sd card...
i made the "Voices" folder in the root of the ppc...
and i runed the app BUT (this is the strange part)...
i am still in the preferences screen as after i press the screen to choose a preference i can only get to the next step by pressing the button with the red telephone and then maximizing the app again from spb. the moment i press the red button i can see tom tom proceeing to the next screen and then the app minimizes.
any ideas on this?
thanx

So it's not all good news then. Does this mean that TomTom's 5.2 release isn't quite ready for WM5 after all? Can anybody comment on differences in performance between 5.1 and 5.2? Does the screen still redraw slowly?

well it might be my mistake or something but...
so what about the rest of you? has anybody tested it? how did you installed it?

I did a full install on to the Exec, direct from the TT site download. I had hard reset the phone first, yes you do need to add a voices folder in the root of the SD card, but otherwise it all works fine - you can use the data.chk file from 5,1 if you like the real voice warnings, the only thing you can't use is the POIExtend software (yet) Mike

Downloaded the zip file from TT site unzipped it and ran it, it uninstalled Ver 5.1 for me the reinstalled 5.2 somewhere along the way it requested a soft boot.
It all appears to function. However I have not had chance to test it in anger.

I previously had TTNav 5.1 (plus maps, voices, POIs) installed and running succesfully from SD-card.
Installed v.5.21 update, which said it would remove the previous version whilst installing and gave me a choice of location for only one of the .CABs. Afterwards I discovered 4MB of main/device storage had gone missing, so checked and found that the new version had now installed itself into device storage and the old version 5.1 was still in SD-Card. Upon checking the registry I found all the entries still pointed to the old version in SD-card. Tried installing again, same result. Uninstalled and installed again, same result.
Decided "what the hell", moved all the new version files to the SD-card locations, modified the program menu shortcut to start TTN from SD-card, removed their "stupid" Today-plug-in, and fired it up. Now working again from SD-card, and have 4MB of device storage back!
As mentioned before, I feel TomTom have totally lost their way roll with PDA navigation. TTNav5 is just a bodge on their stand-alone TT-Go product code to get it more or less to run on a PDA.

I think it's been observed elsewhere that Tomtom seem to be writing a standard application that will work across all their supported platforms. This is cheaper and easier to support but is frustrating for power users.
I am now using Navigator 5 in addition to Mapopolis, and I find the delay in connecting to my Bluetooth GPS (GlobalSat BT338) very annoying. There is nowhere to specify baud rate and I am sure that Tomtom every time is scanning the range to find the GPS, it takes so long.
This makes TT fairly idiot-proof and user-friendly, but at the expense of the more technically minded. Of course, supporting technical options ties it closer to the particular operating system, which is probably what they are trying to avoid doing...

Hi all,..
when I use the update from the TT website, and installed it is asks vor an registration code, the activation code...
does anyone alse have this problem?
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Upgraded to new t mobile rom TT 5 help

I have up graded my rom from
ROM version 1.6.2.4 WWE
ROM date 11/15/05
Radio version 01.12.10
Protocol Version 4.0.13.23
Ext rom version 1.6.2.105
which came with my wizard in December to the new t mobile rom
ROM version 1.3.2.2 ENU
ROM date 9/29/05
Radio version 01.04.10
Protocol version 4.0.13.17
Ext rom version 1.3.2.102
now my TT5 has stopped working it just hangs on start up
It ran ok on the earlier rom anyone any ideas please help

Hi,
I have done that a number of times in setting my own devices and my friend's ones.
Use the step-by-step here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386&highlight=complete+tomtom
I can't remember the exact cause, but I go back to this thread and work it from there on.
HiH,
Joe

I used the 5.21 upgrade on the old rom and that was ok worked a treat frist time but now it just hangs on start up :evil:

Anyone ????

Did you do the reg edit and the GPS control panel part?
And are all the same files on the miniSD card? My initial thought is that it's something to do with this. Like the whole damn lot, even though you can see half of them are not really needed, like the palm ones and licences, text files etc.?
Joe
I'm kicking myself as I only had this two weeks ago on a universal....

Yep everthing on the SD card is the same.
I had the old rom and TT5 worked a treat without the GPS reg hack
I hard resetted my phone updated the rom
Paired the GPS reciever the same as i did before ran the TT 5.21 same as before and nothing Ahhhhhh !!!! :evil:
E mailed tomtom support and got the reply
" If you are using the 5.21 upgrade for WM5 then tomtom should install and work this may be a hardware issue"
No sh!t sherlock !!!!

Ok, a bit naughty, but there's a version linked to here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34504&highlight=tomtom+crash
Try that one and see if it works.
Man this is buggin the **** out of me
Joe
EDIT: More here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34513&highlight=tomtom+crash

Now the plot thickens
Here's what's been done so far
1 hard reset
2 mini sd card cleared TT 5 map re installed this has been tried in a wizard with the old rom and it works so it's not a card or map issue.
3 no apps installed in the phone
4 TT 5 installed on the phone
5 GPS reciever paired with phone
Start TT5 which starts up
Select which country (English UK) ok
Select left or right handed ok
Select miles or kilometers ok
Select clock format. Slight hang but ok
Select which voice that's it the program just hangs and goes no further
Joe it really bugging the **** of me as well :twisted:

Ok, I had this bit on the Wizard Friday evening!!
What it was I think, was I had copied over the map files (the big cline etc.) and checked the currentmap.dat file's path in
\My Documents\tomtom
The bugger still didn't run. So, I went back to my original SD card, copied it all over (all the dross in the map folder I thought I didn't need) and this time it ran. It was something in the map folder on the card.
Joe
PS Sent u a PM

yo Fozzer
i have EXACTLY the same problem, did u fix it yet? its realy anoying me! crashing on the voice select screen after the re-install. please say u fixed it i cant be bothered reverting back to the old ROM.

i just figured out i dont have a my documents/tomtom directory can u post your "currentmap.dat"
thank you in advance

Here ya go, and edit with notepad if your path is different.
Joe

Yep Ill try to post it later on
I dont want to revert back to the old rom too as i havent got it saved any where and i dont know how to pull the rom from another Wizard
Now this is really getting on my wick :evil: :evil:

Jo
what rom are you using ?
Have you got Tom Tom running ???

Yes it works, and I am on t-mob vario:
Rom 1.6.2.4 wwe, 11/15/05
Radio 1.12.10
Protocol 4.0.13.23
Extrom 1.6.2.105

yes!! it works! ooo yeah!
thanks joe
all i had to do was put that file in my documents/tomtom and bingo!
goes past the voice select screen on onwards to tomtom!
phew what a load off my mind!
thanks again joe!

Yer welcome m8, just got to get Fozzer sorted now.
Joe

im sure it'll be the same problem, i figured out that for some reason since i have file syncronization on my Activesync, my computer likes to delete the currentmap.dat, just turn the file sync off and voila currentmap remains and tomtom works

Jimmy
any chance of step by step instructions how you did it PM me if you want
(Poulters You watching this post ???? PM me if you are)

its easy fozz just download the lovely file joe provided in this topic, make a folder called tomtom in my documents ..... mydocuments/tomtom and wack the file in there.

2.xx ExtendedROM unlocker that work

The guys at :
http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=59&func=view&id=19287&catid=45
have this file:
http://buzzdev.net/components/com_simpleboard/uploaded/files/Prophet_ext_rom_unlock.rar
- unpack
- copy it over to your device
- run it
This will make your ExtendedROM writable, NOT visible.
Use TotalCommander CE to display content of your ExtendedROM for now (by entering "\Extended_Rom")
Sometimes, files in ExtendedROM are marked as READONLY and you have to clear that bit.
Does anybody has a good description of each file present in the Extended_Rom and if we can delete it or not?????

After readin that whole thread it seems some say it works some say it does not.
Can anyone confirm it works with the latest Submitter Cingular Rom? I do not want to have to reinstall everything again
I just got things perfect from the last Hard Reset I did.

I tried it on my 2.08 Qtek rom. Does not work (YET as Buzz is still trying!)
This was merely a test version btw.

I flashed my Qtek s200 with the lastest dopod rom (from the ftp page) then did a soft reset just before customisation begins (preventing the extrom files from loading - I don't use MMS or smartdialing).
Copy buzznet's prophet extrom exe onto your device and run it (You should get a little popup saying "success"). I can't view the extrom files and the memory settings are still the same but my system runs a lot faster and I've gone from having to do a soft reset almost twice a day to once every 5 or 6 days!! (I run a large program thats eats up RAM).
It seems so much more stable, reponsive and quicker
Hope this helps......
G

garywiscombe said:
I flashed my Qtek s200
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This is why this stuff gets dangerous. The s200 is not the same as the Wizard from what I understand. Folks read things like this in what is a Wizard specific forum and think it's really working. On the buzzdev forums they seem to say it works on Prophet based devices and not on wizards.
That is why I asked here on a wizard specific forum about anyone having success.

From Bootloader / ROM structure perpective the Prophet and Wizard are said to be similar.
Buzz has developed his tool without any of these devices so hes still in a test phase.

Worked For me
with the last RRU Qtek IPL 2.15 Radio 2.30
Thanks
Herc.

XDA II
Hi guys
I tried it but it gives me message that it is not a valied Pocket PC application
the ExtROM version is 2.06 from PDAMobiz.com

bluetooth disabled in stock rom???

guys i need your help!
ive had my HD2 for 2 weeks now, its perfect! until last night when i tried to set up my bluetooth handsfree headset for work the next morning....
when i go to comm manager and try to turn bluetooth on it hangs for 30-40secs and i get cant turn on bluetooth
none of the other bluetooth related icons/programs/settings seem to work either
i had a look in the windows folder for all the files relating to bluetooth (just incase the links where broken) however, any bluetooth related .exe i click on i get this is not a valid pocketpc application error message.
im really hacked off now...in the wm help files theres a paragraph saying something along the lines of if the wireless carrier enables bluetooth on your phone...blah blah
so has t-mobile UK disabled it?
heres the info i can find:
OS version: 5.2.21864 (21864.5.0.81)
Manilla version: 2.5.19202525.0
ROM version: 1.43.110.2 (70315) WWE
ROM date: 10/28/09
Radio: 2.04.50.22_2
Protocol version: 15.26.50.07U
currently ive got tomtom7 installed and working fine, a handfull of games (Xtract/experiment13 etc etc) other apps like the torch button app all working fine, this is the first problem i've had!
so get your thinking hats on people, i will gather info, try out ideas etc and see what happens

UPDATE: i took a deep breath and did a hard reset....now it works!
so what the hell caused it to stop working?

I have the same problem. I installed a lot of app on my HD2 (TMOBILE UK). I have got tomtom 7 navigator as well installed on my device and the same error when I am trying to turn my Bluetooth on.
Maybe someone have somthing similar or the same and can help? Previously I had Samsung I780 with WM 6.5 and TT7 Navigator and no problems with bluetooth.

i just tried a few apps like HDwall (although it didnt display properly)
bluetooth still working...
just doing another hard rest now then i'll install TOMTOM7

ok.
here it is:
After a hard rest, nice clean phone... ran the TomTom7, installed fine, required a soft reset to complete...
after the soft reset i get "BTTrayCE.exe is not a valid pocketPC application"
so now bluetooth doesn't work
any help? i prefer to use tomtom...

There's a couple of tomtom files that have to be deleted from the windows folder to make it work again. Can't remember the names of them now, but if you google the "bttrayce.exe" error then it's one of the first results.

thanks aterlatus