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TT 5.2 WM5

http://www.tomtom.com/support/index.php?Language=1&FID=3361

Interesting that it says:
"TomTom NAVIGATOR is now compatible with Microsoft Windows™ MOBILE 5.0 devices. See the compatibility list for more information."
And when you go to the list there are no WM5 devices in there :shock:

...but it works :wink:

btw, you don't need to have TT 5 already installed on the system ...just install this verison (5.21) and create a "Voices" directory with your voices files in the root of the ppc ...that's all

mdkia said:
btw, you don't need to have TT 5 already installed on the system ...just install this verison (5.21) and create a "Voices" directory with your voices files in the root of the ppc ...that's all
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Does that mean you have to register this update with TomTom to prove you're a legitimate user? I guess so.
Still waiting for an official (tested and accepted ) update before I upgrade my legit v3 to a legit v5. (Currently running a cracked version cos I'm not happy that TT5 is working properly on WM5, or even that TT5 is the best solution any more :roll: )

mdkia said:
btw, you don't need to have TT 5 already installed on the system ...just install this verison (5.21) and create a "Voices" directory with your voices files in the root of the ppc ...that's all
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Does that mean you can do it on the storage card: "My Device\Storage Card\Voices"; or does it have to be on the "PPC: My Device\Voices" ???

SiliconS said:
Does that mean you have to register this update with TomTom to prove you're a legitimate user? I guess so.
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you need to have the original activation code provided by TT

BillB said:
Does that mean you can do it on the storage card: "My Device\Storage Card\Voices"; or does it have to be on the "PPC: My Device\Voices" ???
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I have it on \Voices ...dunno if it works on the SD too

So what is different about this version. Or should I say what is fixed in this version? Does it keep the screen in the current screen mode (i.e. VGA or does it reset the screen to it's own bidged semi VGA size).

SiliconS said:
mdkia said:
btw, you don't need to have TT 5 already installed on the system ...just install this verison (5.21) and create a "Voices" directory with your voices files in the root of the ppc ...that's all
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Does that mean you have to register this update with TomTom to prove you're a legitimate user? I guess so.
Still waiting for an official (tested and accepted ) update before I upgrade my legit v3 to a legit v5. (Currently running a cracked version cos I'm not happy that TT5 is working properly on WM5, or even that TT5 is the best solution any more :roll: )
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I've installed it twice now and when I go to TomTom Version it still says its version 5.1 anyone else with the same problem, or does someone know something I dont like you have to remove all of tomtom first ????

CarlnAdele said:
I've installed it twice now and when I go to TomTom Version it still says its version 5.1 anyone else with the same problem, or does someone know something I dont like you have to remove all of tomtom first ????
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version 5.210 (5430) ...but i did a clean install

OK this is strange and i need some help....
i installed the app in my sd card...
i made the "Voices" folder in the root of the ppc...
and i runed the app BUT (this is the strange part)...
i am still in the preferences screen as after i press the screen to choose a preference i can only get to the next step by pressing the button with the red telephone and then maximizing the app again from spb. the moment i press the red button i can see tom tom proceeing to the next screen and then the app minimizes.
any ideas on this?
thanx

So it's not all good news then. Does this mean that TomTom's 5.2 release isn't quite ready for WM5 after all? Can anybody comment on differences in performance between 5.1 and 5.2? Does the screen still redraw slowly?

well it might be my mistake or something but...
so what about the rest of you? has anybody tested it? how did you installed it?

I did a full install on to the Exec, direct from the TT site download. I had hard reset the phone first, yes you do need to add a voices folder in the root of the SD card, but otherwise it all works fine - you can use the data.chk file from 5,1 if you like the real voice warnings, the only thing you can't use is the POIExtend software (yet) Mike

Downloaded the zip file from TT site unzipped it and ran it, it uninstalled Ver 5.1 for me the reinstalled 5.2 somewhere along the way it requested a soft boot.
It all appears to function. However I have not had chance to test it in anger.

I previously had TTNav 5.1 (plus maps, voices, POIs) installed and running succesfully from SD-card.
Installed v.5.21 update, which said it would remove the previous version whilst installing and gave me a choice of location for only one of the .CABs. Afterwards I discovered 4MB of main/device storage had gone missing, so checked and found that the new version had now installed itself into device storage and the old version 5.1 was still in SD-Card. Upon checking the registry I found all the entries still pointed to the old version in SD-card. Tried installing again, same result. Uninstalled and installed again, same result.
Decided "what the hell", moved all the new version files to the SD-card locations, modified the program menu shortcut to start TTN from SD-card, removed their "stupid" Today-plug-in, and fired it up. Now working again from SD-card, and have 4MB of device storage back!
As mentioned before, I feel TomTom have totally lost their way roll with PDA navigation. TTNav5 is just a bodge on their stand-alone TT-Go product code to get it more or less to run on a PDA.

I think it's been observed elsewhere that Tomtom seem to be writing a standard application that will work across all their supported platforms. This is cheaper and easier to support but is frustrating for power users.
I am now using Navigator 5 in addition to Mapopolis, and I find the delay in connecting to my Bluetooth GPS (GlobalSat BT338) very annoying. There is nowhere to specify baud rate and I am sure that Tomtom every time is scanning the range to find the GPS, it takes so long.
This makes TT fairly idiot-proof and user-friendly, but at the expense of the more technically minded. Of course, supporting technical options ties it closer to the particular operating system, which is probably what they are trying to avoid doing...

Hi all,..
when I use the update from the TT website, and installed it is asks vor an registration code, the activation code...
does anyone alse have this problem?
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Upgraded to new t mobile rom TT 5 help

I have up graded my rom from
ROM version 1.6.2.4 WWE
ROM date 11/15/05
Radio version 01.12.10
Protocol Version 4.0.13.23
Ext rom version 1.6.2.105
which came with my wizard in December to the new t mobile rom
ROM version 1.3.2.2 ENU
ROM date 9/29/05
Radio version 01.04.10
Protocol version 4.0.13.17
Ext rom version 1.3.2.102
now my TT5 has stopped working it just hangs on start up
It ran ok on the earlier rom anyone any ideas please help

Hi,
I have done that a number of times in setting my own devices and my friend's ones.
Use the step-by-step here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386&highlight=complete+tomtom
I can't remember the exact cause, but I go back to this thread and work it from there on.
HiH,
Joe

I used the 5.21 upgrade on the old rom and that was ok worked a treat frist time but now it just hangs on start up :evil:

Anyone ????

Did you do the reg edit and the GPS control panel part?
And are all the same files on the miniSD card? My initial thought is that it's something to do with this. Like the whole damn lot, even though you can see half of them are not really needed, like the palm ones and licences, text files etc.?
Joe
I'm kicking myself as I only had this two weeks ago on a universal....

Yep everthing on the SD card is the same.
I had the old rom and TT5 worked a treat without the GPS reg hack
I hard resetted my phone updated the rom
Paired the GPS reciever the same as i did before ran the TT 5.21 same as before and nothing Ahhhhhh !!!! :evil:
E mailed tomtom support and got the reply
" If you are using the 5.21 upgrade for WM5 then tomtom should install and work this may be a hardware issue"
No sh!t sherlock !!!!

Ok, a bit naughty, but there's a version linked to here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34504&highlight=tomtom+crash
Try that one and see if it works.
Man this is buggin the **** out of me
Joe
EDIT: More here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34513&highlight=tomtom+crash

Now the plot thickens
Here's what's been done so far
1 hard reset
2 mini sd card cleared TT 5 map re installed this has been tried in a wizard with the old rom and it works so it's not a card or map issue.
3 no apps installed in the phone
4 TT 5 installed on the phone
5 GPS reciever paired with phone
Start TT5 which starts up
Select which country (English UK) ok
Select left or right handed ok
Select miles or kilometers ok
Select clock format. Slight hang but ok
Select which voice that's it the program just hangs and goes no further
Joe it really bugging the **** of me as well :twisted:

Ok, I had this bit on the Wizard Friday evening!!
What it was I think, was I had copied over the map files (the big cline etc.) and checked the currentmap.dat file's path in
\My Documents\tomtom
The bugger still didn't run. So, I went back to my original SD card, copied it all over (all the dross in the map folder I thought I didn't need) and this time it ran. It was something in the map folder on the card.
Joe
PS Sent u a PM

yo Fozzer
i have EXACTLY the same problem, did u fix it yet? its realy anoying me! crashing on the voice select screen after the re-install. please say u fixed it i cant be bothered reverting back to the old ROM.

i just figured out i dont have a my documents/tomtom directory can u post your "currentmap.dat"
thank you in advance

Here ya go, and edit with notepad if your path is different.
Joe

Yep Ill try to post it later on
I dont want to revert back to the old rom too as i havent got it saved any where and i dont know how to pull the rom from another Wizard
Now this is really getting on my wick :evil: :evil:

Jo
what rom are you using ?
Have you got Tom Tom running ???

Yes it works, and I am on t-mob vario:
Rom 1.6.2.4 wwe, 11/15/05
Radio 1.12.10
Protocol 4.0.13.23
Extrom 1.6.2.105

yes!! it works! ooo yeah!
thanks joe
all i had to do was put that file in my documents/tomtom and bingo!
goes past the voice select screen on onwards to tomtom!
phew what a load off my mind!
thanks again joe!

Yer welcome m8, just got to get Fozzer sorted now.
Joe

im sure it'll be the same problem, i figured out that for some reason since i have file syncronization on my Activesync, my computer likes to delete the currentmap.dat, just turn the file sync off and voila currentmap remains and tomtom works

Jimmy
any chance of step by step instructions how you did it PM me if you want
(Poulters You watching this post ???? PM me if you are)

its easy fozz just download the lovely file joe provided in this topic, make a folder called tomtom in my documents ..... mydocuments/tomtom and wack the file in there.

V1605 / WM6 / TomTom Nav 6 - possible?

Hi all,
Have searched the wiki and threads but can't get a definitive answer?
So my question is this....
I have a Vodafone V1605 that is running with its original ROM (which is generally cack but I do use TomTom 5.21 with a Holox receiver which actually works pretty well.
Now, I've just bought TomTom Navigator 6 (latest version and so latest build - can't be precise, but will d/load latest update when s/w arrives).
However, I'm also considering flashing my ROM for a WM6 build (or later WM5 build if that's a no-go).
There's nothing like making a challenge for yourself is there
So basically, is there anyone out there who's managed to:
a) Flash a v1605 successfully with a stable WM6 ROM (and if so, which ROM)
b) Then managed to get TomTom Navigator 6 running on it?
Thanks all - what a hugely useful forum this is!

Mate, as long as your phone is a Hermes, every wm 6 rom works brilliantly but wm6.1 is SPEEDY and some of the newer releases seem stable (its been getting better as the chefs get newer builds). You need to do some research to find the right rom for you as its a personal choice on what you like... DON'T make the mistake of asking what is best as you'll be inundated with answers why people think the rom they are using is best but it may not be the best solution for you...
As for Tomtom, It works brilliantly. Just upgraded to Tomtom 7. If you looked here 1st you would have found it on the site for download. It is offered on the Diamond and has been ripped and modified to work on the Hermes. You still need to purchase maps but it is a hell of a lot better than Tomtom 6.
My suggestion, look here first before spending cash, sometimes you find apps that are as good as or better than their commercial counterparts... There is a hell of a lot of apps out there that aren't available commercially too. Most apps seem to feature here first and then go commercial (a good example is touchflo). Thats not to say that the commercial programs aren't brilliant too and I believe the pittance we pay for them REALLy does help to make some awesome apps..
Cheers...
If you do upgrade your os, make sure you read and do this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Hard SPL is a MUST for anyone flashing roms... It won't guarantee a perfect flash but makes it SOOOO much easier if(and when) something goes wrong...
Also give this a read as you can unlock your phone to allow ANY sim card to be inserted and used - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
Welcome, and happy flashing....

Thanks mate - all sound advice
First thing I did was to install Hard SPL (2.10 Olipro) - better safe than sorry - but that's as far as I got.
I did try to install the latest (final) official Vodafone RUU 2.07.161.1, but it crapped out with Error 260. I decided to cut and run at that point as I was worried I'd bricked the device - but it's all ok now after a hard reset (yes, I'd backed up my data
I'd be using an err... eval version of TT5.21 and it's been great - so much so I decided to cough for a full legit copy (UK and W.Europe) of TT 6 Navigator.
I'll try it on the standard ROM (WM5) but well, you know how it is, I like to have stuff up to date, so it would be good to flash a WM6 ROM. Oh, this and the fact that Vodafone won't give me a phone upgrade until next October!
So I just wanted to hear from someone who'd done it successfully with a full-fat version of TT6 Navigator running on WM6. If it was running with a Holox BT receiver then even better!
S/ware (and 2Gb Micro SD card) here in a day or two - so will sit tight and see....
Thanks!

tt running
i have latest radio 1.54.30.10 Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.31_WWE_Lite on my v1650 supercided
tt7 (orig.)) fine runing all m8

tomtom works perfectly on the hermes, v5/6 or even the tt7 version. I have it working on pdacorner pro wm6.1 v15 at the moment and it works fine.
So chill out on the worries and flash a wm6.1 rom if you get a 260 connection error try entering the bootloader manually yourself and try flashing it then, just tick the boxes saying you agree and you have an active sync connection(even though you dont). Also if you download one of the latest wm6.1 packages then the ruuwrapper file is an updated version which solves most of the silly errors that pop up when trying to flash e.g. error 260/300 etc

anryl said:
i have latest radio 1.54.30.10 Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.31_WWE_Lite on my v1650 supercided
tt7 (orig.)) fine runing all m8
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That's what I wanted to hear - thx mate

If connection issues are a worry however, now you have Hard SPL you can use the SD Card method. I personally haven't EVER had problems with this and I believe its safer as there are no concerns about usb cables being unplugged, reset button being pressed or powwer fluctuations/outages.
To do this,
1).first format an sd card fat32.
2).Copy the .nbh file in your upgrade directory to it and rename to Hermimg.nbh. 3).Put into hermes and go to bootloader screen ( hold powerbutton, OK button above flywheel and rset with stylus. Hold in until tricolour screen appears - This is called bootloader screen) It should automatically recognise the os flash information.
4). Follow prompts..
Easy as 1,2,3,4.
Cheers...

TomTom not working - crashes and reboots

I've used a fair few of this version: 7.918.9193 VGA and for each of them it installs ok but when using the program it will crash and reboot the phone anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes in.
I've deleted the Navigator folders before the next install and yet it still it crashes!
Any ideas? I only bought the phone cos I love TomTom! I'd be happy with an earlier version if needs be - I only need traffic and speed cams (which I have a subscription to) and I've called TomTom support so when I have the program stable I can hook them up through TomTom home.
Desperate for help here!
Cheers,
Joe

First of all what ROM & RADIO are you using? What other software is installed? It may be unlikely that these are the causes, but you never know.
Is TT7 installed on the phone or the SD card?
Have you ever had it running without a problem?
Have you tried redownloading TT7 from another source?
Have you tried a hard reset and then installing TT7?
Have you tried earlier versions of TT7 (ie 916 and the 917)?

Hi,
I've replied to the questions in line below in case it yields any ideas.
Two things also I'm wondering is:
1. Is it best to have it installed on main memory or SD?
2. I hear a lot about the quality and speed of SD card affecting the lag/performance of TT. What's the recommended size/speed/brand for an SD?
Cheers,
Joe
fred_up said:
First of all what ROM & RADIO are you using? - Latest ROM from HTC - _HTC HD2_RUU_Leo_S_HTC_WWE_3.14.405.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship
What other software is installed? It may be unlikely that these are the causes, but you never know. - Nothing at all, fresh flash
Is TT7 installed on the phone or the SD card? - Currently on SD card, but have had it on both.
Have you ever had it running without a problem? - Yes, temporarily yesterday (I only got the phone yesterday). I flashed with the above, installed TT, got my maps working (I've transferred them from my old Xperia X1) then tried tweaking the bif files and read only flags on it to make my traffic/cams subscription work - possible point of failure here but this technique worked well on the old versions of TT I used with the Xperia X1. If TT has introduced code changes which are deep then perhaps this caused the crashes/reboots?
Have you tried redownloading TT7 from another source? Yes, many flavours of the version being used. Some with the extra BT files, but on last install (which has been working for 30mins now) I used the version with the BT files removed.
Have you tried a hard reset and then installing TT7? Yes, reflashed last night and then used TT without BT files.
Have you tried earlier versions of TT7 (ie 916 and the 917)? Yes last night before the reflashing I tried a few versions all with the same effect.
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Just to add that it crashed again, so whilst I wait for some advice from the forum members I've stripped back the map folder to not include traffic.dat and speed cam folders, uninstalled and reinstalled to main memory.
It asked if I wanted to set home location etc so it looks like a "proper" clean install this time, will let it run and see how it goes.

[Q] gps doesn't work

i don't know how this happened.
i did run android but after that i removed it and i installed a standard rom from the htc support site.
can it be that it's still affected by android or is this something else?
my hd mini says that he can find the internal gps receiver but can't find the satellites.
i got the program port on com 4, the hardware port off and the rate on 4800, so did i used the wrong port or wrong settings.
b.t.w. when i start up my phone it says tctrayapp.exe can not be opened. i don't know if that is necessary information,

jappper said:
i don't know how this happened.
i did run android but after that i removed it and i installed a standard rom from the htc support site.
can it be that it's still affected by android or is this something else?
my hd mini says that he can find the internal gps receiver but can't find the satellites.
i got the program port on com 4, the hardware port off and the rate on 4800, so did i used the wrong port or wrong settings.
b.t.w. when i start up my phone it says tctrayapp.exe can not be opened. i don't know if that is necessary information,
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try removing the sd card,format it,install the ROM again (better without the sd card in phone)
there are still some settings on card from android which doesnt let windows mobile to find satellites,this is a known problem...
"Known issues:
-GPS software in WM will not find satellites if you turn off GPS from location settings in Android "

tzacapaca said:
try removing the sd card,format it,install the ROM again (better without the sd card in phone)
there are still some settings on card from android which doesnt let windows mobile to find satellites,this is a known problem...
"Known issues:
-GPS software in WM will not find satellites if you turn off GPS from location settings in Android "
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i did formatted the sd card after i removed android but is it necessary to do it also with the overwriting program that i also needed to use before the android ROM.
thank you for your help

jappper said:
i did formatted the sd card after i removed android but is it necessary to do it also with the overwriting program that i also needed to use before the android ROM.
thank you for your help
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yes
if u format using phone software the data will not be deleted,will be just hidden...

i tried ti but it didn't work. i tried a gps fix and that said gps starting up and it didn't went further.

jappper said:
i tried ti but it didn't work. i tried a gps fix and that said gps starting up and it didn't went further.
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hmmm,then put on card android again,enable gps(instructions in my link),test on WM,and after u can delete android if u dont want it

i don't think that's the problem i formatted the sd and i did a hard reset and installed a new rom so i think it should be out of the system already.
i dont know if the settings of the ports depends if it's working or not or that tctrayapp what i mentioned before?

well...as i said this is a known issue,many had this problem and they solved it doing what i said above..if you know better then do it your way and don't ask us!

gps
Hello.
Android get back to SD. Start Android , go to settings / position / (on) or Disable using GPS satellites. Restart WM6.5 and it works.

i tried it and it didn't work. i turned it off, turned it on and off, but it didn't work does anyone have another idea what it could f be

have you tried the changes, what I said above, on the Android or Windows Mobile? Odd, I had 3 HD MINI ALL THE SAME PROBLEM WITH YOUR and all resolved the problem.

oregon69 said:
have you tried the changes, what I said above, on the Android or Windows Mobile? Odd, I had 3 HD MINI ALL THE SAME PROBLEM WITH YOUR and all resolved the problem.
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i shall try it again, i need to put it on again because it says it has an uknown certificate and that i can't open it

i tried it and it worked i needed to turn those things on in stead of off so i want to apologize to them. thanks everyone for your help