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TomTom 5.10 on the magician ?

I'm currently using TomTom 5.00 on my Magician (1.12.550 Qtek ROM + 1.13 Radio) paired with a non-TomTom bluetooth GPS with success; but I would like to upgrade to 5.10 to be able to use CheckPOInt in order to show and warn me about all possible speedtraps.
However, as soon as I upgrade to TomTom 5.10 and I launch the application, my Magician turns itself off. Turning it on again results only in it shutting down instantly again. The only way to gain control again, is to perform a soft-reset.
I even tried several cr****d versions of the 5.10 upgrade, but all have the same effect
Oh, my 5.0 version is installed from the 5.0 BakoNL release + the POI patch, but I did try other installations of TomTom as well.
Could anyone help me out ?

Same problem here
I have exactly the same problem. Can someone help us. Pleeezzzzz...

Before I forget ... my reason to upgrade to the latest Qtek Rom in the first place was to get this update running. With my original I-mate 1.11 ROM I did have the same problems.
A collegue of mine has the same version (installed from the same media) running flawlessly on his HP 63xx series, so I think this is related to the Magician and not the software.

Hi,
What you can try is to download that upgrade but not install it yet.
Just unpack it on your computer and find the gps upgrade and the dll file that came with it. copy these files to your my documents on your pocketpc and then launch it (put the dll file in the windows folder first!!).
It works for me

Hi TomTom fellows,
I am currently running the newest 5.10 version on my Magician flawlessy. I have experienced a few problems in the past (expecially with version 5.00) but I found out they were related to the POIs. I have solved them by renaming the POI.DAT to something else. Sure, I missed the POIs, but I'd rather use my personal ones, so who cares.
Give it a try and let us know...
Silver.

5.0 did have some problems with POI, which could be solved by using an older version of the POI file. 5.10 has fixed this and now POI is working perfectly, as well as everything else. If it's not running on your Magician, most likely you have some other software obstructing it.

I don't dare to bet on it, but I'm quite sure I did run TomTom on a clean device with the same effect. Perhaps it is caused by my 5.00 TomTom release icw the Magician then ?
@raouljokhoe : how do you unpack the files out of the official TomTom upgrade? All I have is the setup.exe and a .apk file ?

TTN5
I'm in Oz.
I have TTN5.1 running with no problems at all on my magician.
Also just the 5.0 allows you to add camera POI's and have an alert for any POI catagory you'd like.

I tried TomTom 5.10, it runs perfectly well. But it does not recognize "Major Roads of Europe" Map. So, how is yours?
I solved the problem by replacing the .exe file (only) using the old version 5.00.
And it is now working flawlessly on my 1.01 ROM (yeah!!).
Note: I experienced a lot of problem with 5.00, but then I got a new .exe from my friend, still version 5.00 but it works perfectly.

TomTom has one big flaw: If the currentmap.dat file is not in \my docs\tomtom\ then things dont work properly. I run 5.10 on my magician with no problems but everytime i hardreset i need to replace the currentmap.dat file. The file basically just says where the current map folder is.
My file says:
& \Storage Card\Great_Britian_Plus-Map\
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Trust me, sooooooo many problems get fixed by adding that file

Re: TTN5
Esra said:
I'm in Oz.
Also just the 5.0 allows you to add camera POI's and have an alert for any POI catagory you'd like.
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In Oz ?
I know that just the 5.0 can warn upcoming POI's, but it is based in number of meters before the POI instead of number of seconds. Also there is no indication when you are speeding. CheckPOInt does all that ...
gogol said:
I tried TomTom 5.10, it runs perfectly well. But it does not recognize "Major Roads of Europe" Map. So, how is yours?
I solved the problem by replacing the .exe file (only) using the old version 5.00.
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I don't use the MRoE honestly. I am using one of the Plus maps ... so I could not tell you about the Major Roads ...
nedge2k said:
TomTom has one big flaw: If the currentmap.dat file is not in \my docs\tomtom\ then things dont work properly. I run 5.10 on my magician with no problems but everytime i hardreset i need to replace the currentmap.dat file. The file basically just says where the current map folder is.
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That isn't the problem ... The file is there and correct. At startup of 5.10 I even have just the time to see part of the map before the PDA shuts itrself down. The 5.0 version does run well, with POI's and all.
Apparently I'm not the only one with this problem ... and others run TT5.1 flawlessy on their device
:?:

At last someone having my problem
I have been getting this very problem too. Searched everywhere to find an answer at last I have found other people who have my problem!
My story so far....
I started with the cracked version originally of TT5.0 which worked ok and I didnt need to activate the maps. I then downloaded the 5.1 update from TT website, I then installed it.
I succesfully launched TT5.1 but it wanted me to activate the maps. So I downloaded the 5.1 crack using p2p software and installed it. this involves switching the pukka tomtom.exe file on your ppc for the cracked one. Soon as i launched the crack version I started getting these crashes on launch that shut down the magician.
So after loads of reinstalls/hard resets I finally decided to go and buy the original discs. So after recieving the discs I hard reset my device (again) and started a fresh brimming with confidence that my problem would be cured. But to no avail using the pukka route with official activation codes and the official 5.1 update it still crashes.
So my theory is given that other users use 5.1 ok that the 5.1 crack is the devil in all this, as its use somehow screws with your ROM rendering it useless to any further reinstalls of the proper the 5.1 tomtom software. And the only way forward is to reflash your rom So this I am now planning to do as one last attemt to get it working and to gain the big storage facilty.
As I now have properly registered software I now put my self in touch with tomtom suport to see if they had any ideas on what the problem was. (obviously neglecting to mention I originally used the crack version :wink: )
Here is the support thread so far
Customer 03/10/2005 11.36 AM
I have just bought your tomtom navigator 5 software, I have installed the version 5 updated it to 5.1 and installed the UK maps. The next step I loaded TomTom from the the today screen to start the set up process but the screen just goes black and crashes mt PDA. What is causing this It's brand new it should just work out of the box and your site says it supports my device?
Customer 03/10/2005 06.06 PM
I have since uninstalled all the software, deleted bad registry keys, and reinstalled, this time I just installed v5.0 which started up and allowed me to activate the maps. So then I installed the 5.1 update and it did the same as before and kept crashing my MDA when youlaunch tomtom. The screen fades to black and shuts the unit off. When you press the power again it comes on shows the nav screen breifly then powers off again. Very frustrating! Please help I so need this to work!
Customer 03/10/2005 09.17 PM
OK I rang your support line tonight, as this system seems slow. They had me hard reset my device and reinstall just tomtom navigator 5.0, which does work. The guy stated that there was no need for me to update to 5.1 as there are no known issues with the MDA compact. But I am unhappy about this situation as I wanted to use either checkpoint or poi warner with the tomtom software in order to give me speed camera alerts. Both these peices of software state they require version 5.1 or higher.
from checkpoint site:
CheckPOInt 5 was created with use of the software development kit (SDK) for TTN 5, and apparently it is required to upgrade TomTom Navigator to version 5.1 before applications created with this SDK can run smoothly.)
I await your resonse thx
J
TOMTOM Response 05/10/2005 04.31 PM
Thank you for your email.
We would first like to apologize for the late response of this email. We hope that it has not inconvenienced you.
Your PDA model is not compatible with nor meant to be used with the 5.1 update. All TomTom products and software run on all versions of Navigator 5. As we do not support third party programs, please contact the manufacturer of CheckPOint.
With best regards,
The TomTom Customer Support Team
Customer 05/10/2005 04.49 PM
Thank you for you response
I would like to request that this information be made available with the 5.1 download, so far I have wasted nearly 4 days in time trying to get the update to work. A simple statement on your site about incompatibility of the 5.1 update with the MDA compact would have saved me hours of time and will also help future users of the mda compact & tomtom not go through the same thing as me.
I have to say I find it the most bizzare situation that you provide a software update which cant be used with by some models and you don't state this fact on your website.
>>>As we do not support third party programs, please contact the manufacturer of CheckPOint.
No but you provide the SDK telling developers only to write for 5.1!!! If this is the case with certain models you should tell them to write for 5.0. Third party software is all part and parcel of wanting to buy your software had known I would have skirted passed it.
regards
J
TOMTOM Response 05/10/2005 05.05 PM
Thank you for your email.
Before downloading an update, there in an information page telling who should download the update and what the update fixes. When your model number or issue is not listed, it shouldnt be downloaded.
With best regards,
The TomTom Customer Support Team
Customer 05/10/2005 09.09 PM
Then your site is confusing
It states it is for Pocket PC, my MDA Compact is a pocket PC running Windows Mobile 2003SE
from your site:
This update can ONLY be used when you have already installed a registered version of TomTom NAVIGATOR 5 on your Pocket PC or if you are using a HP iPAQ HW 6510/6515.
fixes:
Improved phone functionality for your Pocket PC
Easier installation of 3rd party (non-TomTom) GPS devices
Improved display on devices which have a VGA display (640 x 480 pixels)
I am using both phone and third party GPS system so this update indicates to me it's for my device!
Please clarify the situation
regards
J
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(I know this post will probably attract some anti piracy responses, but hey I do buy some software, and I mainly d/l it for free to test the software first).

So to establish whether this problem is related to cracked versions of the TOMTOM 5.1 update or not....
Are you using genuine or cracked versions successfully or unsuccessfully on your Magician?

Hello Jimmy ...
You sure went trough a lot of trough a lot of trouble for contacting TomTom support ! I was honestly thinking about buying an official version myself, but apparently that does not seem to be a good solution either then ... since even with the official support and license, they just wimp away any questions regarding the MDA
I'm afraid I will go back to my Alturion installation if I cannot get this issue sorted (yes, it's an oficial one, really ...), although I do prefer TomTom on the PDA
Unless of course a 5.2 release might solve our problems of course !
I seriously doubt the 5.1 cracked version messing up the ROM honestly .... Why only on the MDA then and not on any other PDA make ?
Cheers !

I am using TT5.0 instead of 5.1 because I need to load TT 2004 USA map. I do have TT5 USA map but found 2004 map works much better in California. (TT5 USA map only display INCORRECT exit number instead of exit street name). So far so good until the day I need to search for "Wal-mart" and it crash. Works fine now after I overwrite the TT 2004 USA POI file w/ TT5 USA POI file. I guess it has something to do w/ the POI file format.

I'm getting this same problem with a fresh 5.0 install. Has anyone found a way around this. Also if anyone has a working version of 5.0 on an MDA Compact could they let me have a file list of what is on the SD card as I'm wondering if there is any third party add ons on it.

Well, I gave it another try doing a hard reset but to no avail.
Since others are running 5.10 without any problems apparently, this must have someting to do with either the rom version or the ext_rom contents.
What versions are you using and is the 5.10 upgrade working for you ?
Me, I run the Qtek WWE_11200_550_11200 + Radio upgrade 1.13 on what used to be an Imate Jam. All roms were taken from the XDA-developpers ftp.

@job : I PM'ed you so we could try to find out what is wrong

Hi,
until now i had no problems using TT5.0 on my Magician (original MDAc german).
Yesterday I upgraded to the new 1.13.01 ROM (org T-Mobile Germany). After upgrading to the new ROM-Version and installing TT5.0 it was not starting anymore. So I decided upgrading to TT5.1, but the downloaded upgrade hangs while installing on the device. The only help is a Soft-Reset.
I think, there are problems with the new ROM. Has anyone same problems or a solution for that problem.
BugzBunny

Looks like Extended ROM problems. Try a hard reset and then soft reset the device, just as the 3 seconds countdown appears. Install TomTom and see if it runs. If it does, try installing the prgs of the Ext ROM one by one, until TT fails again. Then you will know the culprit.

HTC Alpine radio 1.04!!!

Here is rom with new Radio ROM 1.04
http://extendedsystems.dk/download/qtek/2020i/WWE_Sonofon_11100_165_10400_Ship.exe
Enjoy

Thank for the new radio, but some how I got country erro on the processing upgrade.
Please Help.

is this for the xda 2i please ..only asking as i'm not sure
thanks

This rom is only for Alpine phones, thats the 2i, 2020i etc.
As soon as my broadband is working again (tomorrow hopefully) I'll post the O2 162 rom with the radio 1.04 update for the UK users and anyone else who wants it.
If you want to try this update on the 2i you will need to extract the files from the installer and locate a copy of maupgradeut_noid.exe and use that instead of the included installer. There are better instructions elsewhere on this site, just do a search for my name, I'll be in amongst it all somewhere.

cheers i'll give it a go but if you are doing it maybe i'll wait ,i've only just gone back to your old 1 tonight as i don't use blackberry & it seemed better than o2 update

I have just posted the ROM upgrade on the ftp site, the only change is the radio from 1.03 to 1.04. It seems to give a better signal strength than version 1.03 on my phone anyway.
Here's the link to download the O2 version I just combined
(Edited to working link
ftp://xda:[email protected] XDA_IIi_Upgrade_v1.11.162_Radio_1.04.rar
1: Backup your contacts/device to Storage, Storage Card or PC. If you are using Ext Rom 1.11.162 now you can use full device backup to restore at the end to save you re-installing all your programs later.
2: Extract the ROM using Winrar to a folder of your choice.
3: Run MaUpgradeUT_Noid.exe. The install will fail, don't worry, just run it again without touching the phone.
4: When the upgrade has finished, do a hard reset by pressing the power button and reset button at the same time.
5: Install any programs and any data you backed up during step 1.
Good luck.

Excellent stuff
Upgraded and now running 1.04 radio and i can also say it has improved my signal strength too
Big thanks Pug for your work on the ROM image too, very much appreciated.

Hear, Hear. Many thanks to Pug, great work!

many thanks to Pug,
its work perfectly.....no more lag of ringtones or lag after green button pushed!! thanks Pug.....
i want to know about backup, after upgrade ROM, i cant restore back by backup. When using Backup Sprite, i will go back to old ROM after restore complete. any ideas????

@ Clustered
When you say it goes back to the old rom do you mean that the Radio rom is regerted back to 1.03 or that your extended rom goes back to 192 or whichever you are using?
Sprite backup should not revert the radio rom back to 1.03 as it should only do the file system of your device.
As far as the extended ROM version, all it is there for is to indicate the "update" status of the extended ROM and what software is installed in it. An asian rom may have a higher rom version but may be no newer or better than the european 162 rom. You're talking about comparing hedgehogs to wibbles, completely arbitary. As soon as you cook the extended ROM like I have it is completely meaningless anyway as the version number is no longer valid.
If you wish to change the version number yourself, use a registry editor and go to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\3RDVERSION and change the MSYSTEM value to whatever you like.
If I have the wrong end of the stick, I apologise otherwise I hope this helps.

huh!? are u mad at me ??? anyway, i just wanna tell that you're the great! thanks very much....

I'm not mad at you, just woke up from a night shift....bloody binmen.
Was just trying to figure out which rom was reverting and so on. Hope it was of use to you anyway.
Once again, sorry.

HELP!
I Can't Upgrade the ROM.
step 1 is OK (radio)
Step 2 is OK (EXT):
Step 3 to 8 % PC show : Error 112: CE ROM UPDATE ERROR
WHY???
i run the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe second Time , but frist Run MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe Need to STOP(use TASK Manager)??
PLEASE HELP ME

thanks for the update ..it's upgrading at the moment

thanks for the update, the only problem i'm having is that even though i've got the in call volume as low as it will go it is still too loud to be comfortable which is a big change from the previous rom. Also when using in the car on handsfree the other person can hear his voice echoing as they speak. Any ideas????

Successfully upgraded my XDAIIi.....
I'm now with the latest ROM from O2 UK (1.11.169 WWE) and the Radio version 1.04.00

Hi, I'm from Malaysia and will this rom be able to use on my device?
I'm using XDA IIi and device id is PH10C.
I'm affraid there will be a problem for my local operator "Maxis".

@ ramnkc
To be honest I can't see a problem with this ROM working with your current operator. I'm pretty sure that others from your neck of the woods are using the ROM with no problems. The biggest problem you would have is that it wouldn't load all your GPRS, WAP, MMS, etc settings as it is a UK rom.
Make sure you can get hold of these settings off your current provider before you perform the upgrade. Or as an alternative, extract your current ROM and reload it back onto your phone using SD card.

thanks for the reply !
Well i guess i gonna wait for the official release coz so far i'm happy with it. Apart of the constant SD Card data missing after playback mid, mp3 or what ever music files from SD Card.
And i finally found out that it cause by SBP pocketplus which had an option to close all application once you tab on X. Once i turn that option off in pocket plus so far problem free.
Guys/gals out there have this problem ?

ykyloveu - Does this mean you have BB Connect as well? The only modified rom from here I can download is based on cer .112 The new rom for o2 with BBConnect is ver .169

TT 5.2 WM5

http://www.tomtom.com/support/index.php?Language=1&FID=3361

Interesting that it says:
"TomTom NAVIGATOR is now compatible with Microsoft Windows™ MOBILE 5.0 devices. See the compatibility list for more information."
And when you go to the list there are no WM5 devices in there :shock:

...but it works :wink:

btw, you don't need to have TT 5 already installed on the system ...just install this verison (5.21) and create a "Voices" directory with your voices files in the root of the ppc ...that's all

mdkia said:
btw, you don't need to have TT 5 already installed on the system ...just install this verison (5.21) and create a "Voices" directory with your voices files in the root of the ppc ...that's all
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Does that mean you have to register this update with TomTom to prove you're a legitimate user? I guess so.
Still waiting for an official (tested and accepted ) update before I upgrade my legit v3 to a legit v5. (Currently running a cracked version cos I'm not happy that TT5 is working properly on WM5, or even that TT5 is the best solution any more :roll: )

mdkia said:
btw, you don't need to have TT 5 already installed on the system ...just install this verison (5.21) and create a "Voices" directory with your voices files in the root of the ppc ...that's all
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Does that mean you can do it on the storage card: "My Device\Storage Card\Voices"; or does it have to be on the "PPC: My Device\Voices" ???

SiliconS said:
Does that mean you have to register this update with TomTom to prove you're a legitimate user? I guess so.
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you need to have the original activation code provided by TT

BillB said:
Does that mean you can do it on the storage card: "My Device\Storage Card\Voices"; or does it have to be on the "PPC: My Device\Voices" ???
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I have it on \Voices ...dunno if it works on the SD too

So what is different about this version. Or should I say what is fixed in this version? Does it keep the screen in the current screen mode (i.e. VGA or does it reset the screen to it's own bidged semi VGA size).

SiliconS said:
mdkia said:
btw, you don't need to have TT 5 already installed on the system ...just install this verison (5.21) and create a "Voices" directory with your voices files in the root of the ppc ...that's all
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Does that mean you have to register this update with TomTom to prove you're a legitimate user? I guess so.
Still waiting for an official (tested and accepted ) update before I upgrade my legit v3 to a legit v5. (Currently running a cracked version cos I'm not happy that TT5 is working properly on WM5, or even that TT5 is the best solution any more :roll: )
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I've installed it twice now and when I go to TomTom Version it still says its version 5.1 anyone else with the same problem, or does someone know something I dont like you have to remove all of tomtom first ????

CarlnAdele said:
I've installed it twice now and when I go to TomTom Version it still says its version 5.1 anyone else with the same problem, or does someone know something I dont like you have to remove all of tomtom first ????
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version 5.210 (5430) ...but i did a clean install

OK this is strange and i need some help....
i installed the app in my sd card...
i made the "Voices" folder in the root of the ppc...
and i runed the app BUT (this is the strange part)...
i am still in the preferences screen as after i press the screen to choose a preference i can only get to the next step by pressing the button with the red telephone and then maximizing the app again from spb. the moment i press the red button i can see tom tom proceeing to the next screen and then the app minimizes.
any ideas on this?
thanx

So it's not all good news then. Does this mean that TomTom's 5.2 release isn't quite ready for WM5 after all? Can anybody comment on differences in performance between 5.1 and 5.2? Does the screen still redraw slowly?

well it might be my mistake or something but...
so what about the rest of you? has anybody tested it? how did you installed it?

I did a full install on to the Exec, direct from the TT site download. I had hard reset the phone first, yes you do need to add a voices folder in the root of the SD card, but otherwise it all works fine - you can use the data.chk file from 5,1 if you like the real voice warnings, the only thing you can't use is the POIExtend software (yet) Mike

Downloaded the zip file from TT site unzipped it and ran it, it uninstalled Ver 5.1 for me the reinstalled 5.2 somewhere along the way it requested a soft boot.
It all appears to function. However I have not had chance to test it in anger.

I previously had TTNav 5.1 (plus maps, voices, POIs) installed and running succesfully from SD-card.
Installed v.5.21 update, which said it would remove the previous version whilst installing and gave me a choice of location for only one of the .CABs. Afterwards I discovered 4MB of main/device storage had gone missing, so checked and found that the new version had now installed itself into device storage and the old version 5.1 was still in SD-Card. Upon checking the registry I found all the entries still pointed to the old version in SD-card. Tried installing again, same result. Uninstalled and installed again, same result.
Decided "what the hell", moved all the new version files to the SD-card locations, modified the program menu shortcut to start TTN from SD-card, removed their "stupid" Today-plug-in, and fired it up. Now working again from SD-card, and have 4MB of device storage back!
As mentioned before, I feel TomTom have totally lost their way roll with PDA navigation. TTNav5 is just a bodge on their stand-alone TT-Go product code to get it more or less to run on a PDA.

I think it's been observed elsewhere that Tomtom seem to be writing a standard application that will work across all their supported platforms. This is cheaper and easier to support but is frustrating for power users.
I am now using Navigator 5 in addition to Mapopolis, and I find the delay in connecting to my Bluetooth GPS (GlobalSat BT338) very annoying. There is nowhere to specify baud rate and I am sure that Tomtom every time is scanning the range to find the GPS, it takes so long.
This makes TT fairly idiot-proof and user-friendly, but at the expense of the more technically minded. Of course, supporting technical options ties it closer to the particular operating system, which is probably what they are trying to avoid doing...

Hi all,..
when I use the update from the TT website, and installed it is asks vor an registration code, the activation code...
does anyone alse have this problem?
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02 xda exec upgrade to imate

I want to upgrade my 02 rom to the imate rom
which imate rom supports the aku2 patch, as o2 dont know when there going to release this support.

this is also my question, is it possible to use Imate Jasjar ROM for O2 Exec, and where i can get it , then i can use O2 software on new ROM ? Thank you.

YES!
I upgraded my O2 Exec to the new i-mate ROM and man.. it's like owning a completely different machine.
plenty of memory left ( i guess memory leaks were mostly fixed)
dazzling speed.
machine doesn't get stuck several times a day.
I am happy.
You have the official ROM. Search through it, I don't know in which thread I saw it, but the filename is: JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.zip
You should be able find it here using the search button.
Then you need to use a tool called maupgradeut_noid_645.exe
Also available here. It will allow to install the JASJAR ROM on O2 Exec. But I think your warrenty will voice.. unless you revert back to the O2 ROM which is downloadable from my-xda.com
MOBILER

Sorry again, i have this question, my XDA Exec is unlocked by deffault, after updated with the Imate ROM, is my Exec still unlocked ? Thank you.

yes your exec will still be unlocked. I have an exec with a Orange simcard and the latest imate rom. No problems.

hi,i have a xda exec from 02,i want to upgrade to a imate rom.where i can download this rom?,how can i read a manual to upgrade this rom?
thanks

ccoyote51 said:
hi,i have a xda exec from 02,i want to upgrade to a imate rom.where i can download this rom?,how can i read a manual to upgrade this rom?
thanks
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From the link under i-mate in the wiki page for universal
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Upgrades
go to ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/
Get the file JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.zip. About 64Mb. Unzip the file twice & you will get the readme.doc file for the instruction.

Any idea where i can find maupgradeut_noid_645.exe? Tried search and tried the ftp, no luck.

doody said:
Any idea where i can find maupgradeut_noid_645.exe? Tried search and tried the ftp, no luck.
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I think I used this version when I upgraded O2 XDA Exec to JASJAR rom. Didn't run into any problems

Thanks for your replies and PMs, i-Mate rom is now installed

Also got fed up with waiting for O2 update and tonight loaded the imate rom and push email is working nicely . I will try and post some instructions tomorrow if I get chance.

what should be the final specs
mine are ROM 1.13.82 WWE
rom date 11/30/05
radio 1.09.00
protocol 42.42.P8
Ext ROM 1.13.188 WWE
ihave downloaded imate JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship should I update with this my O2 EXEC
Please advise

Here is the process as promised. There isnt too much too it so hopefully you will be able to understand my ramblings.
You need the Imate JASJAR rom file which I downloaded from
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Universal/Shipped_Complete_Updates/
The file that you need is JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.zip.
First thing to do is to extract the files in the exe. There are two ways you could do this.
You can do this by running the exe file this will extract the files into a temporary directory in your profile.. for example c:\documents and settings\username\Local Settings\Temp, look for a very recently created directory in there, don’t ok the error message that you get when you run the exe as it will delete the temporary files. Just copy the files out of the temp directory somewhere else.
OR
You can use winrar to extract the files from the exe. Extract all the files into a single flat directory. Remove all directory structures so that you are left with just one directory containing all the files. (didnt try this way but I presume it will work)
Then download this file
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Tools/MaUpgradeUt_noID.zip
Extract the .exe in there to the same directory containing all your other files.
Then you need to make a small change to one of the text files. Look in the directory for
RUU.conf
Open it in notepad and add this line
[CHECKCEID_TYPE]=1
then save it
That’s about it…..
Usual wavers at this point.. upgrading flash may lead to dead device.. do so at your own risk… invalidate warranty…etc etc
Once you have plucked up the courage connect your device up to Active sync and run the exe file that was contained in the MaUpgradeUt_noID.zip file that you downloaded.
It seemed to take around 30 mins for the whole update process.
Im just going through adding my applications again and setting up the Vodafone GPRS configuration but so far seems fine and push email works nice and fast so I am pleased I have made the change.

Hi jwarbutron,
Thanks for the walkthrough, Im following your instructions and have now started the upgrade.
I got past the screen where it tells me my current version numbers and what the new versions will be. I said OK, go for it, and now its displaying the 'Checking the information on your device .. please wait ..' screen, I presume I just wait for 30 mins or so and the upgrade is complete? There isn't a progress bar or another screen Im supposed to see?
Cheers
Nas

hanks jwarbutron,
Your procedure works like a charm Thanks once again . Pl let me know how to get original #D phone pad interface

Unfortunately it didn't work for me, I left my phone plugged in for about 4 hours, it still just displayed the checking page, and now my phone wont start. Switching it on, I see some text in portrait mode saying usb at the top, and v1.00 at the bottom.
I'll dig around this forum to see if I can find a solution.
Nas

Third attempt looks to be good though! Got the progress bar, upgrading now... :lol:
Nas

Just updated last night, and good grief the imate ROM is so much better.
Its much smoother, quicker and generally a much more pleasant experience.
Very much recommended to anyone who who has the Exec.
Cheers
Rich

Well, my upgrade completed, but I still get the portrait page with USB at the top and v1.00 at the bottom. The upgrade said it had completed successfully, is there a step I have missed?
Cheers
Nas

Im starting the upgrade again to see if I missed anything, I have the screen with the progress bar, so I know its doing *something*.
While its going, any ideas what I might of missed?
Thanks
Nas

V1605 / WM6 / TomTom Nav 6 - possible?

Hi all,
Have searched the wiki and threads but can't get a definitive answer?
So my question is this....
I have a Vodafone V1605 that is running with its original ROM (which is generally cack but I do use TomTom 5.21 with a Holox receiver which actually works pretty well.
Now, I've just bought TomTom Navigator 6 (latest version and so latest build - can't be precise, but will d/load latest update when s/w arrives).
However, I'm also considering flashing my ROM for a WM6 build (or later WM5 build if that's a no-go).
There's nothing like making a challenge for yourself is there
So basically, is there anyone out there who's managed to:
a) Flash a v1605 successfully with a stable WM6 ROM (and if so, which ROM)
b) Then managed to get TomTom Navigator 6 running on it?
Thanks all - what a hugely useful forum this is!

Mate, as long as your phone is a Hermes, every wm 6 rom works brilliantly but wm6.1 is SPEEDY and some of the newer releases seem stable (its been getting better as the chefs get newer builds). You need to do some research to find the right rom for you as its a personal choice on what you like... DON'T make the mistake of asking what is best as you'll be inundated with answers why people think the rom they are using is best but it may not be the best solution for you...
As for Tomtom, It works brilliantly. Just upgraded to Tomtom 7. If you looked here 1st you would have found it on the site for download. It is offered on the Diamond and has been ripped and modified to work on the Hermes. You still need to purchase maps but it is a hell of a lot better than Tomtom 6.
My suggestion, look here first before spending cash, sometimes you find apps that are as good as or better than their commercial counterparts... There is a hell of a lot of apps out there that aren't available commercially too. Most apps seem to feature here first and then go commercial (a good example is touchflo). Thats not to say that the commercial programs aren't brilliant too and I believe the pittance we pay for them REALLy does help to make some awesome apps..
Cheers...
If you do upgrade your os, make sure you read and do this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
Hard SPL is a MUST for anyone flashing roms... It won't guarantee a perfect flash but makes it SOOOO much easier if(and when) something goes wrong...
Also give this a read as you can unlock your phone to allow ANY sim card to be inserted and used - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
Welcome, and happy flashing....

Thanks mate - all sound advice
First thing I did was to install Hard SPL (2.10 Olipro) - better safe than sorry - but that's as far as I got.
I did try to install the latest (final) official Vodafone RUU 2.07.161.1, but it crapped out with Error 260. I decided to cut and run at that point as I was worried I'd bricked the device - but it's all ok now after a hard reset (yes, I'd backed up my data
I'd be using an err... eval version of TT5.21 and it's been great - so much so I decided to cough for a full legit copy (UK and W.Europe) of TT 6 Navigator.
I'll try it on the standard ROM (WM5) but well, you know how it is, I like to have stuff up to date, so it would be good to flash a WM6 ROM. Oh, this and the fact that Vodafone won't give me a phone upgrade until next October!
So I just wanted to hear from someone who'd done it successfully with a full-fat version of TT6 Navigator running on WM6. If it was running with a Holox BT receiver then even better!
S/ware (and 2Gb Micro SD card) here in a day or two - so will sit tight and see....
Thanks!

tt running
i have latest radio 1.54.30.10 Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.31_WWE_Lite on my v1650 supercided
tt7 (orig.)) fine runing all m8

tomtom works perfectly on the hermes, v5/6 or even the tt7 version. I have it working on pdacorner pro wm6.1 v15 at the moment and it works fine.
So chill out on the worries and flash a wm6.1 rom if you get a 260 connection error try entering the bootloader manually yourself and try flashing it then, just tick the boxes saying you agree and you have an active sync connection(even though you dont). Also if you download one of the latest wm6.1 packages then the ruuwrapper file is an updated version which solves most of the silly errors that pop up when trying to flash e.g. error 260/300 etc

anryl said:
i have latest radio 1.54.30.10 Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.31_WWE_Lite on my v1650 supercided
tt7 (orig.)) fine runing all m8
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That's what I wanted to hear - thx mate

If connection issues are a worry however, now you have Hard SPL you can use the SD Card method. I personally haven't EVER had problems with this and I believe its safer as there are no concerns about usb cables being unplugged, reset button being pressed or powwer fluctuations/outages.
To do this,
1).first format an sd card fat32.
2).Copy the .nbh file in your upgrade directory to it and rename to Hermimg.nbh. 3).Put into hermes and go to bootloader screen ( hold powerbutton, OK button above flywheel and rset with stylus. Hold in until tricolour screen appears - This is called bootloader screen) It should automatically recognise the os flash information.
4). Follow prompts..
Easy as 1,2,3,4.
Cheers...