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I need to listen to MP3s throught the bluetooth headset.
I don't need a good sound quality - it's just for speech.
I just want to play that MP3 continuously (again and again) so I'd be able to put on paper as much as possible.
So is there a way to play a MP3 (or any other sound format) using the BT headset?
i think it require a bluetooth profile which the xda2 dont currently support
I use a SouthWing BT headset, bought on Ebay.co.uk for around £35.
It supports both the BT handsfree and headset profile, which the XDA2 supports too.
I can listen to MP3's or use it to take or make calls. You should be able to use any BT headset that supports the headset profile, most only support the handsfree mode.
MP3s through Bluetooth
I have a Plantronics M3000 headset when I bonded it with my XDA II I selected the option for the headset profile from BT Tools. When I switch on the headset mode from the Today Screen I get a bleep on the headset but no audio is transferred to the headset it still comes out of the speaker. Do I need to tweak any other settings?
Im guessing that the Plantronics is not fully compatable with the headset profile.
Thanks for any help.
Paul
Rudegar said:
i think it require a bluetooth profile which the xda2 dont currently support
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OK. Where can I get the required BT profile? Does the Widcomm driver have it?
It normally works on my PC - I can listen to all sounds form PC throught the BT dongle and BT headset. So it's just a question of driver. Where can I get it for my XDA2?
captin said:
I use a SouthWing BT headset, bought on Ebay.co.uk for around £35.
It supports both the BT handsfree and headset profile, which the XDA2 supports too.
I can listen to MP3's or use it to take or make calls. You should be able to use any BT headset that supports the headset profile, most only support the handsfree mode.
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Can u provide more details please? I couldn't find your mentioned headset from Ebay.co.uk
This ie the companies web site - http://www.south-wing.com/
When I was setting up the pairing on my XDAII it recognised the earpiece as having the headset protocol and asked if i wanted to connect using the headset profile or the handsfree profile, I chose the headset one. It still works perfectly as a handsfree earpiece but also allows me to listen to anything played with the windows media player, which i use for MP3's.
It also works with a PC using a bluetooth dongle, I use it as a handsfree phone for my home phone.
how does it handle music ?
i mean does it play one channel of the stereo
or does it play joind mono ?
to me listening to music with 1 ear is pretty useless
can you please also elaborate which rom version ? pocket BT tools installed or not? which BT stack?
the headset and handsfree profile are supported by MOST BT headsets
my jabra 250 suppprts both profiles, but I am never able to channel windows media output through the BT headset ((
so any info would be very insghtful
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This ie the companies web site - http://www.south-wing.com/
When I was setting up the pairing on my XDAII it recognised the earpiece as having the headset protocol and asked if i wanted to connect using the headset profile or the handsfree profile, I chose the headset one. It still works perfectly as a handsfree earpiece but also allows me to listen to anything played with the windows media player, which i use for MP3's.
It also works with a PC using a bluetooth dongle, I use it as a handsfree phone for my home phone.
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Hi captin,
I had a look on the website. It didn't mention that the handsfree can support xda2. Also, there's no info at all that it can be used to listen mp3.
Can u show us more how you do it?
Thanks
mp3
ok friend to use your headset with xda2 to lesson to mp3 you need widcomstck you can find in our fourm and kai blutooth headset batch you can buy from handango in 3 dollars and you can give to our fourms instool both and make pairing with your headset and thats work fine but only mono beacuse we need blutooth headset streo and in the market only mono thanks
captin said:
I use a SouthWing BT headset, bought on Ebay.co.uk for around £35.
It supports both the BT handsfree and headset profile, which the XDA2 supports too.
I can listen to MP3's or use it to take or make calls. You should be able to use any BT headset that supports the headset profile, most only support the handsfree mode.
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I think you must be the only person on the planet that has mp3 working through bluetooth without any patches/hacks/etc, can you please elaborate more because it doesnt work for anybody else.
I am using a Plantronics M1000 (M1500) with iMate 1.52.00WWE.
With Pocket Bluetooth Tools I can use it for Phone calls but not MP3.
Annoyances are -
1. I can't initiate dialling from teh Headset unless I dial from the phone and then hangup (even if BT permanently on).
2. If I leave BT permanently on the Headset battery goes flat very quickly in standby.
3. If a Call comes in on Call Waiting, the call transfers to the phone and I can't get it back to the Headset
Mike Sydney
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Bluetooth/XDA 11 Integration
Hi Guys,
Just thought I would let you know that New Answer Ltd have done bespoke integration work into Bluetooth headsets. For the application that you are talking about, it is possible to develop an app to run MP audio apps to any bluetooth headset. get intouch with [email protected]
Dan
Yesterday, I tried w/ Kai's Bluetooth Headset patch
I've found that it doesn't work with XDAII.
So, I'm still waiting for the new patch.
Besides, does anyone know what Tobias, Pocket Tools developer, is doing?
I've sent emails to him serveral timee But there is no reply. His website also stop progressing as well.
Headset Profile
So, the XDA 2 does not have the profile that allows MP3's to be played through a headset. But does anyone know a profile that allows voice dialing from the headset? South-Wing has voice dialing from the headset but captin is the only person i know who has it working on the XDA 2. Anyone got any suggestions?
Michael
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So, the XDA 2 does not have the profile that allows MP3's to be played through a headset. But does anyone know a profile that allows voice dialing from the headset? South-Wing has voice dialing from the headset but captin is the only person i know who has it working on the XDA 2. Anyone got any suggestions?
Michael
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Unfortunately, it's not as simple as just a profile. Since a third party voice dialing software has to be manually added to the XDA II (its not built in), the headset would have no way of knowing which application to "activate" when the headset button was pressed. The only way I see this happening is, if someone can hack the bluetooth stack to detect a headset button press, then route the command to a voice dial software installed on the XDA II. Ideally, the dll would have an interface that would allow you to select the application you want executed when the bluetooth headset button is pressed.
Rumor has it that the iPaq 6300 won't have voice activated dialing either - and it will have the best bluetooth software stack around, the Widcomm stack. If it won't support it, I wouldn't have much hope for the XDA II unless some hacker decides to give it a try. But it sounds like a lot of work.
Reply from South Wing
I sent a email to South Wing about compatibility with the XDA 2 and i got this reply
The XDA II does not support the Bluetooth hands-free profile which is used by the NeoVoice USB headset and gives access to the various hands-free mode features of the device.
However, it supports the headset profile also supported by the NeoVoice USB. This means you can make and receive calls perfectly and use functions of the headset like voice dialing.
Overall, without the hands-free mode capability, the features you would miss on are only the following ones: rejecting a call, transferring a call to the phone, last number redialing and disconnecting from the phone.
The headset is available online from expansys.com (type NeoVoice in the search box) where you may acquire the USB cable and car charger for little more.
There you have it from the horses mouth, hope this is some help
Michael
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However, it supports the headset profile also supported by the NeoVoice USB. This means you can make and receive calls perfectly and use functions of the headset like voice dialing.
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Hmmm. Interesting. But I still don't see how voice dialing can be supported through the headset. Again, the XDA II has no built in voice dialing software, so there's nothing to standardize on. Therefore, your only option is a third party dialing app. So, if you were to install something like Microsoft's Voice Dial, the headset would have no way of knowing that it needs to call the Microsoft Voice Dial EXE when you press the headset button. Other bluetooth phones that do support voice dial can use headsets that, when you press the headset button, can call standard API's that initiate the voice dialing capability on the phone. The XDA II does not have this standard API set.
Anyway, I'm still more interested in pushing standard sound like MP3's and audio books through the BT headset. But the voice dialing stuff is interesting nonetheless.
Can anyone tell me the truth ??? Is it possible or not ?
My previous GSM was a Motorola Timeport. When I had to telephone someone, I just spoke the name of that person, and my Motorola dialled the correct number.
For example I said "Parents", and the phone number of my parents was automatically dialled.
Can I do such thing with my BT headset Sony/ericsson HBH-35 and my Qtek 2020 ???
Some people say it is totaly impossibble ???
I cann´t tell you, if that would work, but i know, that you can use voice dial via some extra software. It works well.
What i don´t know, if you can use your BT for Voice recognition....
Stefan
Aha, thanks Stefan. ( we have almost the same flag - lol ! )
So voice-recognition would work, but only with the microphone of the Qtek itself, pobably not with bluetooth....
So I guess I have to use speed dial in the car...
yes, it´s possible with microsoft voice comand, try it¡¡ it´s very easy to install and very funny.
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yes, it´s possible with microsoft voice comand
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I assume you mean that voice-dialing is possible, NOT voice-dialing through a BT headset. Right?
From all of the information I have gathered, voice-dialing through a BT headset is just not possible at this time. If you have gotten it to work, I'll bet there are thousands who would like to know how you did it! :wink:
yeah i believe that there is some bluetooth profile required
there are some threads about it somewhere in hacking it forum
Rudegar wrote:
yeah i believe that there is some bluetooth profile required
there are some threads about it somewhere in hacking it forum
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I have searched and can find nothing that indicates that voice-dialing through BT works yet. There is a great deal of discussion, but no solution (that I can find). I believe that a BT HandsFree profile is required, but not included with the Himalaya BT implementation.
We can certainly hope that one is included in WM2003 SE, should that actually make it to this platform.
some people were talking about if it was possible to use the ipaq bluetooth stack on a xda2 if that works
I'm using Voice Dial sinse 3 month and it works grate. Even in the car I can ask any contact of my data base ( +/-1000) name of contact + mobile or at home etc... The program ask you for confirmation by reading once more the contact name and asks if this is correct.
If you say "yes" it compose the request phone number.
I'm using HBH 65 BT headset for phone and the intergreted micro from Qtek for voice recognition.
Try it for free at : http://www.fonix.com/page.cfm?name=product_fonix_voicedial&ID=14
I have the french version
So Kiyeko -
Are you saying that you can press the button on your BT headset, say a name from your contacts list into the microphone on the headset and the i-mate/XDA II/MDA II/QTEK 2020 will dial the number? If so, I would be interested to know what software recognizes the headset button-press as the initiator of the voice-dialing software.
I have tried Pocket BT Tools with Fonix Voice Dial and was never able to get it to recognize the headset button press as the initiator of the program. Oh, by the way - I tried it with the MS program as well.
Returning to the initial question posted by mvb95.
Yes, with your hardware (Qtek 2020 and HBH35) is possible to use voice recognition to put the calls.
You must install Vito Voice Dialer PE v3.0. Eventually assign a hardware button to the voice dialer. Record all the tag voices you want.
With both devices paired and turned on (HBH35 blinking green), press the hardware button assigned to Vito and say the tag (e.g.: “John”) to the headset. You don’t need to use the Qtek speaker, don’t need to press the HBH35 button, nor confirm the recognition with “yes”, like in the Fonix.
Is simple and ease.
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say the tag (e.g.: “John”) to the headset.
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Are you SURE it is using the headset microphone to input the name? I have downloaded and installed the program, then set a hardware button and recorded some voice tags.
When I press the hardware button, it does not activate my HBH-30 to input the tag, it records it with the device's microphone.
Are you using Pocket BlueTooth tools?
Hi Brian:
I use it always in my car.
My hardware: Qtek 2020 (Rom: 1.72.00WWE, Radio version: 1.14.00) and headset SE HBH-35.
I have tried several times covering the microphone hole with my finger and, by other side, speak to the headset 2 or 3 meters away from the Qtek.
With Vito you don’t need to say “Call John” but only “John”.
I don’t use the Pocket Bluetooth Tools because the latest Rom has the Bluetooth headset profile improved and this software doesn’t work with my car kit handsfree Nokia.
I can’t put my hands on fire, but the only thing I’m sure is that I can talk normally with the Vito Voice Dialer and the headset in my car.
Sorry if you have already read this but I am still having a problem!!
I got the new Bluetake iphone mini stereo headphones for christmas and was hoping to use them with my MDA Pro (running the new O2 ROM).
I have them paired as a "Hands Free" device...
I know that I can't use the stereo features until the new A2DP patch come out (hopefully soon!), however what I want to be able to do is use voice command to initiate calls etc. However when I press the call/power or Play/Pause button all I hear is a beep from the headset and nothing hapens on the PDA...
However I can use the button to answer and hangup a call (as long as I answered it with the handset...) If I initiate the call on the MDA then I can't hangup with the headset...
Am I doing something wrong or does it sound like something is faulty??
Any advice?
Thanks
Andy.
I actually had an oportunity to try out the voice levels and sound is awful! I also tried to connect it to my SE T610 and it refused and it did the same when I tried to connect it to my Toshiba M200 tablet PC as in both cases it never asked for the passkey...
I am begining to think that they must be faulty??
But becuase I have never had a BT headset before so I'm not sure if I am doing something stupid!
Andy
I have managed to try a SE BT headset with my MDA Pro and it did work and activate voice command. So it would seem that the headset is faulty. Does anyone have any ideas before I send it back?
Andy
Please!! Is there anyone here who can comment on whether they think these are broken or if I am just incompetent!
If they are broken then I need to send them back really soon...
FWIW, my Jabra BT330 and the SE HBH-662 just need a single quick click to activate the voice dial, but these Plantronics Pulsar 590A things I just got (which are fandabidosi by the way!) need a prolonged press to do the same.
Have you tried keeping your finger on the button for a while?
Ferg.
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Sorry if you have already read this but I am still having a problem!!
I got the new Bluetake iphone mini stereo headphones for christmas and was hoping to use them with my MDA Pro (running the new O2 ROM).
I have them paired as a "Hands Free" device...
I know that I can't use the stereo features until the new A2DP patch come out (hopefully soon!), however what I want to be able to do is use voice command to initiate calls etc. However when I press the call/power or Play/Pause button all I hear is a beep from the headset and nothing hapens on the PDA...
However I can use the button to answer and hangup a call (as long as I answered it with the handset...) If I initiate the call on the MDA then I can't hangup with the headset...
Am I doing something wrong or does it sound like something is faulty??
Any advice?
Thanks
Andy.
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Just looked at the instructions for the bluetake i-phone (bt450rx),
(got them myself for xmas)
and it does not say that you can connect to the phone for voice control,
however you should be able to hang up from the headset.
i have got the k-jam (wizard) and can dial from the k-jam and hangup from the headset.
voice control may not be available because the new bluetooth stereo headset's are ready for AVRCP (Audio Video Remote Control Profile).
the older bluetake headset bt420rx can be used for voice control but do not have AVRCP function.
I hope i am wrong, but it may be the answer you have not been looking for.
Hmm... That sounds bad...
I only have a few days left to return it and don't know whether to get a replacement or to go for a different headset?
i like the idea of being able to play/pause/f-foward/rewind via the headset(when bt v2 upgrade is available), because music playback is more important to me than voice dial.
of course if you can send it back, then perhaps just wait until bt v2 is available, and then buy a headset for the uses you require it for.(wish there was an emotion with cross eyes) LOL
I know what you mean but I would still be able to use voice command!!
Does anyone else have the 450Rx and a universal and could test it for me?
if you do prove me wrong (and i hope you do) please let me know.
answering this problem further,
the bluetake i-phono mini headset cannot be used for voice command,
however the motorola ht820 can be used for voice control.
Had similar issues with my headset (not the same type). In the end, I had enable secure mode on the universal, pair the devices, select serial port and then immediately initiate the voice dial, otherwise it didn't work.
Gareth
I decided to play it safe and returned it back to Expansys for a refund. When someone else gets a set of stereo headphones and A2DP is out... and crucially they can confirm it works! Then I'll buy a new one!
Cheers
Andy
one good thing with motorola ht820 is that they can be used with a detatchable cable, so whilst i'm using them bluetooth for the phone side, i can still hear good quality music.
also i know from trying them with my wife's qtek s110 that you can control windows media player as well.
you may have already tried this, but just in case you haven't,
install and run the three files for either "bt off", "bt on", or "bt toggle",
this will switch all audio to the bt headset or away,
of course quality is not good, but at least no cables.
ps. if the headset is switch off and you put bt on, you will get an on screen error message.
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one good thing with motorola ht820 is that they can be used with a detatchable cable, so whilst i'm using them bluetooth for the phone side, i can still hear good quality music.
also i know from trying them with my wife's qtek s110 that you can control windows media player as well.
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Do they come with this cable as standard?
EDIT: Did a search, and they do.... might just buy them now and sell my Sony EX-71's.... would they we at least the same in terms of sound quality? It's the thing people talk about least with these devices!
So lemme see if I got this right.... even before I get A2DP installed on my Exec, I can listen to perfect music using the cable, and also use the hphones as a bluetooth headset as well? Will the music still pause etc when a call comes in?
Just bought a pair of HT820's on Ebay there.... £38, not too bad. Should get about £25-30 for two pairs of existing headphones, so well please.
I have a Vario II with Skype installed.
I realise that Skype recommends that you use the supplied headset when using the product for calling (rather than the speakerphone) but I was wondering if I can use my Bluetooth headset instead of the wired headset?
Bluetooth works fine with ordinary phone calls so I sort of expected it to work with Skype (doesn't the phone just see a Bluetooth headset as a standard headset once a partnership has been established?) - but it doesn't appear to work.
Am I missing something or does Skype for Pocket PC not support Bluetooth? And, if not, why not?
Skype probably doesn't use BT Headset profile. They probably should. But look at how long it took MS to make Voice Command work with BT and on our phones it didn't even work. I bet A2DP stereo headsets would work since it is an audio sending profile and not related to calls but you wouldn't be able to use the MIC except for the one on the phone. This might be enough functionality someone could try if they haven't already. However, there is the utility that someone wrote for the Samsung SCH-i730 that redirect all audio to the BT headset. There is no reason it shouldn't work on any PPC that uses the Microsoft BT stack. So try it out and see if it works.
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/391448-post1.html
You need to create shortcuts to the toggle executable to make it easy to use.
There is a reg entry that will allow you to patch all sound to a BT headset.
HKLM\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand
LaunchAPEnable should be 0 instead of 1. Once done the headset hardware button will be remapped to connect to the device instead of launching voice command.
You will still be able to press the button to answer calls, it just won't initiate voice dial for new calls.
I would suggest one of those small freeware that allow to remap the hardware button (my button right softw key's been remapped to display a full program menu, that includes the voice command). I'm using a program called New Menu for Windows Mobile 5.
Hope this will help,
Sam
Can anyone share if they have any other methods to use BT with skype?
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Can anyone share if they have any other methods to use BT with skype?
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sorry for the bump... but if this can somehow work it would be a godsend... any ideas oh wise ones?
read my previous post.
To toggle Audio to A2DP you might want to see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1485391#post1485391
It's an easy way of switching audio to the headset and back to the device. This is for A2DP only.
hey guys,i was hoping for a different thing..is it possible to change the sound from the loudspeaker to the small speaker?? like using a real phone instead of using earphones..i dont have any earphones or bt headsets for the moment so i was hoping that someone can help me out here..its annoying if ur using skype while other people can hear the person you are talking to..
p/s:i've search everywhere including this forum,but still no solution..
No. Apparently it's a flaw in WM: it doesn't give apps access to the phone speaker.
that's a shame..hope microsoft will consider this for their future product
Bluetooth does work with Skype
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Can anyone share if they have any other methods to use BT with skype?
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Try www.Fring.com it has the Skype, MSN, ICQ in there they're all work with the bluetooth. (check the setting after the installation to allow bluetooth headset)
I used to have VoiceCommand and BlueAudio perfectly working on my X1. Now this crappy X2 that messes up so much, canNOT run any Audio to the Bluetooth Headset.
It should have the MS Bluetooth Stack so these programs should work. Perhaps it is some registry change that makes them work?
Anybody got them to work and know how to? Thanks!
It seems that the Bluetooth AudioGateway dll files is not working properly. Tried different dll's from different versions but still did not find the "correct" working one. Anybody???
Couldn't get MS Voice Command working.
Vito Voice Dialer works great though.
Haven't managed to make my X2 work with my existing bluetooth headset.
X2 says it's paierd with the device, but then you can't answer calls or anything else.
If it wasn't for the $$$ I spent to buy this piece of crap, I'd have a new phone already!
Okay, is this vito voice dialer dialing VIA bluetooth or not? And HOW do you press a key on the phone to activate it? What key? And just read their manual, they don't even mention any bluetooth capability there. Can you use bluetooth and how?
Because voice command works (more or less) HOWEVER NOT via bluetooth and since there is NO hard/software button to assign to it, it cannot be activated via the phone either!
I have to press the bluetooth button and then the sound (mic and voice) come out of the phone speaker.
I strongly think this has to do with the bluetooth gateway SE is using with the X2. But I was hoping somebody technical could have found a solution by now. For me voice dialing is essential and my X1 was perfect.
With blue audio I could listen to musik on a mono bluetooth!
Just to mention it, I use SE hbh-PV740 and it always works if making 'regular' calls via the phone over bluetooth. But I cannot initiate it nor voice dial.
I can't get my X2 to do anything with my bluetooth kit, so all your questions re: bluetooth I can't answer.
I start vito from a button on the screen and it works.
For me and my phone, the vito product is much more accurate and reliable than voice command.