Skype and Bluetooth headsets - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I have a Vario II with Skype installed.
I realise that Skype recommends that you use the supplied headset when using the product for calling (rather than the speakerphone) but I was wondering if I can use my Bluetooth headset instead of the wired headset?
Bluetooth works fine with ordinary phone calls so I sort of expected it to work with Skype (doesn't the phone just see a Bluetooth headset as a standard headset once a partnership has been established?) - but it doesn't appear to work.
Am I missing something or does Skype for Pocket PC not support Bluetooth? And, if not, why not?

Skype probably doesn't use BT Headset profile. They probably should. But look at how long it took MS to make Voice Command work with BT and on our phones it didn't even work. I bet A2DP stereo headsets would work since it is an audio sending profile and not related to calls but you wouldn't be able to use the MIC except for the one on the phone. This might be enough functionality someone could try if they haven't already. However, there is the utility that someone wrote for the Samsung SCH-i730 that redirect all audio to the BT headset. There is no reason it shouldn't work on any PPC that uses the Microsoft BT stack. So try it out and see if it works.
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/391448-post1.html
You need to create shortcuts to the toggle executable to make it easy to use.

There is a reg entry that will allow you to patch all sound to a BT headset.
HKLM\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand
LaunchAPEnable should be 0 instead of 1. Once done the headset hardware button will be remapped to connect to the device instead of launching voice command.
You will still be able to press the button to answer calls, it just won't initiate voice dial for new calls.
I would suggest one of those small freeware that allow to remap the hardware button (my button right softw key's been remapped to display a full program menu, that includes the voice command). I'm using a program called New Menu for Windows Mobile 5.
Hope this will help,
Sam

Can anyone share if they have any other methods to use BT with skype?

bsica said:
Can anyone share if they have any other methods to use BT with skype?
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sorry for the bump... but if this can somehow work it would be a godsend... any ideas oh wise ones?

read my previous post.

To toggle Audio to A2DP you might want to see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1485391#post1485391
It's an easy way of switching audio to the headset and back to the device. This is for A2DP only.

hey guys,i was hoping for a different thing..is it possible to change the sound from the loudspeaker to the small speaker?? like using a real phone instead of using earphones..i dont have any earphones or bt headsets for the moment so i was hoping that someone can help me out here..its annoying if ur using skype while other people can hear the person you are talking to..
p/s:i've search everywhere including this forum,but still no solution..

No. Apparently it's a flaw in WM: it doesn't give apps access to the phone speaker.

that's a shame..hope microsoft will consider this for their future product

Bluetooth does work with Skype
bsica said:
Can anyone share if they have any other methods to use BT with skype?
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Try www.Fring.com it has the Skype, MSN, ICQ in there they're all work with the bluetooth. (check the setting after the installation to allow bluetooth headset)

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MP3 via BlueTooth

I need to listen to MP3s throught the bluetooth headset.
I don't need a good sound quality - it's just for speech.
I just want to play that MP3 continuously (again and again) so I'd be able to put on paper as much as possible.
So is there a way to play a MP3 (or any other sound format) using the BT headset?
i think it require a bluetooth profile which the xda2 dont currently support
I use a SouthWing BT headset, bought on Ebay.co.uk for around £35.
It supports both the BT handsfree and headset profile, which the XDA2 supports too.
I can listen to MP3's or use it to take or make calls. You should be able to use any BT headset that supports the headset profile, most only support the handsfree mode.
MP3s through Bluetooth
I have a Plantronics M3000 headset when I bonded it with my XDA II I selected the option for the headset profile from BT Tools. When I switch on the headset mode from the Today Screen I get a bleep on the headset but no audio is transferred to the headset it still comes out of the speaker. Do I need to tweak any other settings?
Im guessing that the Plantronics is not fully compatable with the headset profile.
Thanks for any help.
Paul
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i think it require a bluetooth profile which the xda2 dont currently support
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OK. Where can I get the required BT profile? Does the Widcomm driver have it?
It normally works on my PC - I can listen to all sounds form PC throught the BT dongle and BT headset. So it's just a question of driver. Where can I get it for my XDA2?
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I use a SouthWing BT headset, bought on Ebay.co.uk for around £35.
It supports both the BT handsfree and headset profile, which the XDA2 supports too.
I can listen to MP3's or use it to take or make calls. You should be able to use any BT headset that supports the headset profile, most only support the handsfree mode.
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Can u provide more details please? I couldn't find your mentioned headset from Ebay.co.uk
This ie the companies web site - http://www.south-wing.com/
When I was setting up the pairing on my XDAII it recognised the earpiece as having the headset protocol and asked if i wanted to connect using the headset profile or the handsfree profile, I chose the headset one. It still works perfectly as a handsfree earpiece but also allows me to listen to anything played with the windows media player, which i use for MP3's.
It also works with a PC using a bluetooth dongle, I use it as a handsfree phone for my home phone.
how does it handle music ?
i mean does it play one channel of the stereo
or does it play joind mono ?
to me listening to music with 1 ear is pretty useless
can you please also elaborate which rom version ? pocket BT tools installed or not? which BT stack?
the headset and handsfree profile are supported by MOST BT headsets
my jabra 250 suppprts both profiles, but I am never able to channel windows media output through the BT headset ((
so any info would be very insghtful
captin said:
This ie the companies web site - http://www.south-wing.com/
When I was setting up the pairing on my XDAII it recognised the earpiece as having the headset protocol and asked if i wanted to connect using the headset profile or the handsfree profile, I chose the headset one. It still works perfectly as a handsfree earpiece but also allows me to listen to anything played with the windows media player, which i use for MP3's.
It also works with a PC using a bluetooth dongle, I use it as a handsfree phone for my home phone.
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Hi captin,
I had a look on the website. It didn't mention that the handsfree can support xda2. Also, there's no info at all that it can be used to listen mp3.
Can u show us more how you do it?
Thanks
mp3
ok friend to use your headset with xda2 to lesson to mp3 you need widcomstck you can find in our fourm and kai blutooth headset batch you can buy from handango in 3 dollars and you can give to our fourms instool both and make pairing with your headset and thats work fine but only mono beacuse we need blutooth headset streo and in the market only mono thanks
captin said:
I use a SouthWing BT headset, bought on Ebay.co.uk for around £35.
It supports both the BT handsfree and headset profile, which the XDA2 supports too.
I can listen to MP3's or use it to take or make calls. You should be able to use any BT headset that supports the headset profile, most only support the handsfree mode.
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I think you must be the only person on the planet that has mp3 working through bluetooth without any patches/hacks/etc, can you please elaborate more because it doesnt work for anybody else.
I am using a Plantronics M1000 (M1500) with iMate 1.52.00WWE.
With Pocket Bluetooth Tools I can use it for Phone calls but not MP3.
Annoyances are -
1. I can't initiate dialling from teh Headset unless I dial from the phone and then hangup (even if BT permanently on).
2. If I leave BT permanently on the Headset battery goes flat very quickly in standby.
3. If a Call comes in on Call Waiting, the call transfers to the phone and I can't get it back to the Headset
Mike Sydney
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Bluetooth/XDA 11 Integration
Hi Guys,
Just thought I would let you know that New Answer Ltd have done bespoke integration work into Bluetooth headsets. For the application that you are talking about, it is possible to develop an app to run MP audio apps to any bluetooth headset. get intouch with [email protected]
Dan
Yesterday, I tried w/ Kai's Bluetooth Headset patch
I've found that it doesn't work with XDAII.
So, I'm still waiting for the new patch.
Besides, does anyone know what Tobias, Pocket Tools developer, is doing?
I've sent emails to him serveral timee But there is no reply. His website also stop progressing as well.
Headset Profile
So, the XDA 2 does not have the profile that allows MP3's to be played through a headset. But does anyone know a profile that allows voice dialing from the headset? South-Wing has voice dialing from the headset but captin is the only person i know who has it working on the XDA 2. Anyone got any suggestions?
Michael
Re: Headset Profile
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So, the XDA 2 does not have the profile that allows MP3's to be played through a headset. But does anyone know a profile that allows voice dialing from the headset? South-Wing has voice dialing from the headset but captin is the only person i know who has it working on the XDA 2. Anyone got any suggestions?
Michael
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Unfortunately, it's not as simple as just a profile. Since a third party voice dialing software has to be manually added to the XDA II (its not built in), the headset would have no way of knowing which application to "activate" when the headset button was pressed. The only way I see this happening is, if someone can hack the bluetooth stack to detect a headset button press, then route the command to a voice dial software installed on the XDA II. Ideally, the dll would have an interface that would allow you to select the application you want executed when the bluetooth headset button is pressed.
Rumor has it that the iPaq 6300 won't have voice activated dialing either - and it will have the best bluetooth software stack around, the Widcomm stack. If it won't support it, I wouldn't have much hope for the XDA II unless some hacker decides to give it a try. But it sounds like a lot of work.
Reply from South Wing
I sent a email to South Wing about compatibility with the XDA 2 and i got this reply
The XDA II does not support the Bluetooth hands-free profile which is used by the NeoVoice USB headset and gives access to the various hands-free mode features of the device.
However, it supports the headset profile also supported by the NeoVoice USB. This means you can make and receive calls perfectly and use functions of the headset like voice dialing.
Overall, without the hands-free mode capability, the features you would miss on are only the following ones: rejecting a call, transferring a call to the phone, last number redialing and disconnecting from the phone.
The headset is available online from expansys.com (type NeoVoice in the search box) where you may acquire the USB cable and car charger for little more.
There you have it from the horses mouth, hope this is some help
Michael
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mlee2 said:
However, it supports the headset profile also supported by the NeoVoice USB. This means you can make and receive calls perfectly and use functions of the headset like voice dialing.
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Hmmm. Interesting. But I still don't see how voice dialing can be supported through the headset. Again, the XDA II has no built in voice dialing software, so there's nothing to standardize on. Therefore, your only option is a third party dialing app. So, if you were to install something like Microsoft's Voice Dial, the headset would have no way of knowing that it needs to call the Microsoft Voice Dial EXE when you press the headset button. Other bluetooth phones that do support voice dial can use headsets that, when you press the headset button, can call standard API's that initiate the voice dialing capability on the phone. The XDA II does not have this standard API set.
Anyway, I'm still more interested in pushing standard sound like MP3's and audio books through the BT headset. But the voice dialing stuff is interesting nonetheless.

M$ Voice COmmand

Now i know the boys are working on getting a bluetooth headset to work soley with VC, but is there a way to use the wired handsfree buton to activate M$ VC?
My Jam wired headset and M$ VC streams audio and commands but only the button doesnt activate the program, actually it seems that my button doesnt do anything!
Also i dont know anything bout programing but is it possible to strip part of the wired handsfree program (ie the part that sends audio, earpiece and mic) and use that for the bluetooth?
maybe just re-channel the info from handsfree port to the bluetooth port?
Last but not least is it possible to incorparate TTS with the M$ VC? as i would like it if VC could read my txt msgs and emails to me (yes i know fonix currently does that but i dont really wana go and buy another VC program)
I have a MDA VARIO and I also really would like to know if I can use my wired headset answer button to start a program, e.g. voice comman actions.
So far I know, I only can answer phone calls with it.
Thanks alot if someone can help!

Redirecting TRINITY sound to handsfree

After reading very long threads about this issue, many changes in the registry and some full pda restores, I haven´t found the way to redirect all the sounds to the handsfree in my TRINITY.
Has anyone managed to make BTAudio or any other program work with a Trinity?
I think that as long as the handsfree headset you use supports the A2DP profile then all audio is redirected to it without the need for any registry hack. At least that's my experience with my SonyEricsson stereo BT headset.
2 Types of Redirect
One is with A2DP where the bt device is compliance to it. I do not have one but I believe it will work fine.
Another way which I am using is via the Handsfree Voice Command channel. When a voice command software(Such as Cyberon Voice Speed Dial) is installed and when the recognition is triggered(usually by a button on headset), all audio is redirected to the the headset.
So the trick is to keep this redirection longer.
This is can achieved by changing two registry settings.
- Change the duration to something longer, like FFFF.
- Invalidate the voice command software execution.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand]
"VoiceCmdDuration"=dword:FFFF
"Path"="\WINDOWS\invalid_sddialer.exe"
With that, I have lost Voice command via my headset but I hardly do VC at all, and if needed, I had associated one of the button on my dopod to launch VC but I need to speak into the phone instead.
Not sure if this is the best way but it's the only way I know of untill I figure out other.
FYI, I'm currently using Dopod D810 with lvsw ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299771) and a Motorolla H700.
anonimo said:
I think that as long as the handsfree headset you use supports the A2DP profile then all audio is redirected to it without the need for any registry hack. At least that's my experience with my SonyEricsson stereo BT headset.
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Hello,
I agree with this.
I had not been able to get the Trinity to redirect audio to a sony HBH-IV835 heandfree device.
Since I've change for a Sony DR-BT20NX headset with AD2P profile it's working like a charm. No more registry hack or software needed.
Then registry hack only concern improvement of audio quality (bitpool and so on).
Sadly i'm not able to use real stereo (replace the use of joint stereo) because it's generationg a slight annoying hiss sound.
Is this still the status, also with WM6?
I can't believe it's not possible to redirect some kind of way like I've been reading in the Tornado treads.
Yeah, I'm also can't redirect all sound to my headset (Plantronics Pulsar P590) by one click or by launch some program. Every time I need launch BT Settings, open Devices tab, tap'n hold on "590Plantronics", and select "Set as hands-free" or "Set as Wireless audio".
Can't find other ways to do it - no registry hacks, no other...
Does this help maybe?
http://pocketland.de/product.php?prod_id=36311
I did not test it yet...
No, it doesn;t work too... All discussed programs (BTARouter, BTAudioNav, BTAudioToggle) are just redirect phone calls to the my headset. No audio output at all (headset icon doesn't appear).
Just found this:
http://bluetooth.pdatopsoft.com/SmartPhones/Bluetooth-Audio-Router
Anyone try it on Trinity? Its a new program to me.
clinton said:
Just found this:
http://bluetooth.pdatopsoft.com/SmartPhones/Bluetooth-Audio-Router
Anyone try it on Trinity? Its a new program to me.
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I just tried it. Didn't work. I could hear it activating the speaker on the headset as I launched the app (soft hiss) but it didn't re-direct any audio. Voice calls only through the headset (which is the same as without the app installed). I guess it really only works for smartphones.
The registry hack worked for me but I need voice command so it's not really a permanent fix for me.
I'd be quite happy to buy a new headset too but I don't want something bulky or with wires everywhere like all the stereo ones on the market. The single ear clip on ones are just so quick and easy to use...
peon said:
I just tried it. Didn't work. I could hear it activating the speaker on the headset as I launched the app (soft hiss) but it didn't re-direct any audio. Voice calls only through the headset (which is the same as without the app installed). I guess it really only works for smartphones.
The registry hack worked for me but I need voice command so it's not really a permanent fix for me.
I'd be quite happy to buy a new headset too but I don't want something bulky or with wires everywhere like all the stereo ones on the market. The single ear clip on ones are just so quick and easy to use...
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I saw a lot of different registry hack around here..
The one thath works on p3600 is?
I've tried a lot of but no one works.
I dont't need voice dial so it can be good.
I use my p3600 with a BT Helmet.. so I'd like to listen to tom tom inside..
thanks a lot.
Hi
I have the p3600 and a sony mex-bt 2500 and i can redirect all audio to the carcit but i have to connect with the audio (A2DP)conection and not the headset conection so you'r divice has to have the A2DP profile to work.
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I have the p3600 and a sony mex-bt 2500 and i can redirect all audio to the carcit but i have to connect with the audio (A2DP)conection and not the headset conection so you'r divice has to have the A2DP profile to work.
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But my bike helmet is not A2DP compliant so I canìt use it.. :-(
Still no solution?
Hi you all,
is there still no solution for the Trinity?
I am actually experiencing the skipping problem, but I would be half-glad if I could redirect audio in mono to the headset.
Please advise!
IsiT_de...
Get headset that supports A2DP profile and it works fine. I have Plantronics Voyager 855 stereo, and it works flawlessly in mono or stereo mode with modifying any registry hacks. Music sounds awesome too with this headset, just like my bose earbud phones.

Skype with BT-Headset on Universal?

Hello folks!
I know this is a pretty App-specific question, but has anyone managed to get Skype working on the universal with a bluetooth-headset?
Since Skype is not really an "incoming/outgoing phone call" the headset is not activated and I can only get audio through the built-in speaker/mic or a wired headset. (both of which is annoying)
Any ideas on how to trick Skype into using Bluetooth-Handsfree for IO?
Not sure why, but I have been told Skype works with bt-headsets on other devices flawlessly. Is there anything special about the Universal that could apply here?
I already asked this in the official skype-forums, but only got the usual "mobile devices are not officially supported"-answers....
There is a program you can use that will redirect all audio output to BT - I have made Skype and BT work this way. I can't remember what its called so do a search.
The program is "blueMusic"
Thanks for the reply, will try that.
Does this software only redirect output or does it also activate the BT-headset's microphone for recording?
I had luck using Helmi's Widcomm bluetooth stack. Search for it in the Universal forums. It's pretty sweet and treats your handsfree profile device like an Audio gateway.
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Thanks for the reply, will try that.
Does this software only redirect output or does it also activate the BT-headset's microphone for recording?
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It should do both, but, not 100% sure about the latter part
do this change and a soft reset so any time you want can tranfer l'audio to your bluetooth headset , il works with skype and any other application.
hklm\software\oem\voicecommand and set the value of "launchapenable" from 1 to 0

Anybody got MS VoiceCommand / BlueAudio to work?

I used to have VoiceCommand and BlueAudio perfectly working on my X1. Now this crappy X2 that messes up so much, canNOT run any Audio to the Bluetooth Headset.
It should have the MS Bluetooth Stack so these programs should work. Perhaps it is some registry change that makes them work?
Anybody got them to work and know how to? Thanks!
It seems that the Bluetooth AudioGateway dll files is not working properly. Tried different dll's from different versions but still did not find the "correct" working one. Anybody???
Couldn't get MS Voice Command working.
Vito Voice Dialer works great though.
Haven't managed to make my X2 work with my existing bluetooth headset.
X2 says it's paierd with the device, but then you can't answer calls or anything else.
If it wasn't for the $$$ I spent to buy this piece of crap, I'd have a new phone already!
Okay, is this vito voice dialer dialing VIA bluetooth or not? And HOW do you press a key on the phone to activate it? What key? And just read their manual, they don't even mention any bluetooth capability there. Can you use bluetooth and how?
Because voice command works (more or less) HOWEVER NOT via bluetooth and since there is NO hard/software button to assign to it, it cannot be activated via the phone either!
I have to press the bluetooth button and then the sound (mic and voice) come out of the phone speaker.
I strongly think this has to do with the bluetooth gateway SE is using with the X2. But I was hoping somebody technical could have found a solution by now. For me voice dialing is essential and my X1 was perfect.
With blue audio I could listen to musik on a mono bluetooth!
Just to mention it, I use SE hbh-PV740 and it always works if making 'regular' calls via the phone over bluetooth. But I cannot initiate it nor voice dial.
I can't get my X2 to do anything with my bluetooth kit, so all your questions re: bluetooth I can't answer.
I start vito from a button on the screen and it works.
For me and my phone, the vito product is much more accurate and reliable than voice command.

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