Rubber Keyboard Bump Stops - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Not sure whether this should be asked in accessories or not, but has anybody found a solution to the inadequate height of the rubber bump-stops on the O2 Exec? Their height isn't quite high enough to prevent the keys touching the screen's part of the clamshell so you end up with the keys getting rubbed smooth, and marks on the case where they touch.
At the moment, I've got a couple of bits of sticky rubber foot on preventing the touch, but they are moving around on the adhesive since there's so little of it.
What we could really do with is somebody with manufacturing facilities to create replacement bump-stops that are taller than the original ones, unless anybody else has a solution?
Cheers,
Steve.

Nobody got a solution to this?
Cheers,
Steve.

Haven't noticed the problem until you mentioned it but that's because I've been keeping my unit in a leather case -- which actually prevents it from closing comppletely (I'm using the piel frama case with the new clear plastic cover)

Not sure how I would cope with a case - how do you rotate the screen or put it into a Brodit holder without having to take it on and off all the time?
Cheers,
Steve.

You can rotate the screen by opening the flip cover of the case (ie: PielFrama; XAX case sold by expansys; and many others) Not too sure about your Brodit holder w/ a case though.

Surely there must be a good solution to this? I'd pay good money(well, some) for a set of bump stops that were tall enough to stop the keyboard touching. A bit of a design flaw, I guess...
Cheers,
Steve

what I do is, I sandwich a small cleaning cloth in between....this way, I have the cloth at all times to wipe the display when needed....and also protects the screen and the surroundings from touching the keypad! I use the cloth that came along with my screen protector....
have a great new year!
San

Hi
Has anyone got any ideas about where I can get replacement rubber bump stops (normal or extended height) for my Exec? One of mine has fallen off and got lost. I have tried contacting O2, but short of sending the device back for repair, which I don't want to do, they cannot help.
Thanks for any info.
Mark

I have same problem with my QTEK 9000. I have shiny dots obeside my Universal's screen which corresponds to where the keys are located on the keayboard. I believe this is a manufacturing defect, right?
Anybody was able to return their device because of these spots? I've had my device for 1 month and they're starting to irritate me.

StevePritchard said:
Not sure how I would cope with a case - how do you rotate the screen or put it into a Brodit holder without having to take it on and off all the time?
Cheers,
Steve.
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Maybe I'll screw a belt clip to my brodit car mount. A simple unclip from my belt and then clip it onto the car mount. It'd need some sides on the mount to keep it from rotating due to gravity but I could see this working. Anyone have contacts with Brodit and a good case maker?

Tron_Of_Borg said:
StevePritchard said:
Not sure how I would cope with a case - how do you rotate the screen or put it into a Brodit holder without having to take it on and off all the time?
Cheers,
Steve.
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Maybe I'll screw a belt clip to my brodit car mount. A simple unclip from my belt and then clip it onto the car mount. It'd need some sides on the mount to keep it from rotating due to gravity but I could see this working. Anyone have contacts with Brodit and a good case maker?
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I think I would rather find somebody who can manufacture taller rubber stops to replace the existing ones...
Cheers,
Steve.

Rubber Keyboard Bump Stops - possible solution
I've had a bit of a play with my Exec - my friend has lost one of his rubber bump-stops, so I prized one of mine out with a jewellers screw driver to find that they are just pushed in, and so it would be relatively easy to lose them, I think.
Using the same thin screwdriver, I applied super-glue to the recess into which the rubber stop sits, and then pushed the stop back in, but not all the way. Now I have a pair of stops that sit about 1-2mm proud of where they were originally, and they are glued in to prevent loss.
I'll try and remember to post back in a week or two to let you know how I get on with them.
Cheers,
Steve.

I sure hope that there isn't a seam down there where the rubber feet were! I'd hate to hear of a PCB glued to the underside of the keyboard cover.

You can see that there are internal components below the recess, but that's why I applied the superglue with the screwdriver around the inner edge of the recess, as opposed to just squirting it into the hole.
As long as you don't flood the hole with glue, none of it will drop through to the components beneath.
Cheers,
Steve.

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Dropped it!

Hello, the other week I lifted my XDA Exec from it's nice Brodit car mount, only for it to slip from my hand and drop on to the car floor. This is ok I thought, until it bounced on my car floor on to the floor of the concrete car park outside!
Not too much damage, no damage to the screen, but the stylus won't hold in place now, it just slides right out of the exec if you hold it upside down.
I've stopped using it now, but need to get it fixed.
This company based in the states has a 'Stylus Lock' repair kit:
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~O2_XDA_Exec-500~area~repairs.htm
Has anyone come across this before and can provide some help?
Thanks in advance.
Mike
You've ms-read their site. The toolkit is to fit items 'such as their stylus lock' as it's a general toolkit / description for all HTC PDA's eg for iPaq as well, for which there is a 'stylus lock' issue and a replacement part needs fitting - the stylus on 36XX units is flush, you press the stylus 'in' to get it to pop 'out' and this wears out so you can't get the stylus out to use.
There is no lock on the XDA exec, it's just a friction based hold in the silo.
Try wrapping some sellotape around the shaft of the stylus.
Richard
Ahh, right got it. Good job I didn't buy it. Looks like selotape it is then... Thanks for the reply.

stylus problem in/out

hello to everybody!
i got my xda trion 2 weeks ago. after one week, it was impossible to bring the stylus into the xda. so i got a new one.
after again one week, the stylus wont come out of the trion.
someone else prob's with the stylus?
greetings
karl
+ 1, probleme like a wizard too
same ting happened with my TyTN today...
+1 with one week old tytn
Same here...
First I couldn't get it out / then I couldn't get it in / then it would simply slide in-and-out freely to the point that only gravity was holding it in place (sorry if this sounds dirty, but this is what happened).
Had to have mine replaced. I've heard this issue has been around since the Wizard...
I really hope I don't have the same problem on TyTn #2!!!
After a few days of having mine suddenly the stylus was becoming enromously difficult to remove. At one point it just wasnt moving so after a forceful tug it pulled out and a tiny transparent square of plastic/rubber fell out with it. Looks like it was in there to keep it in place but i have no idea how to put it back in. Now the stylus removes fine and stays in place too :shock:
I had the same problem.
Could not get the staylus in with my TyTN.
So I did the mistake and pushed it in... a "knack" sound alerted me that something bad happened. Could not get the stylus in still... so I yanked a small rubber plastic piece from the stylus hole on my TyTN. Now I can slide easily the stylus in.
From teh reports I heard my guess is that the rubebr plastic inside the TyTN is used to firmly hold the stylus in. While without this rubebr plastic there is nothing to hold the stylus until you fully place it inside the TyTN.
andmjones said:
After a few days of having mine suddenly the stylus was becoming enromously difficult to remove. At one point it just wasnt moving so after a forceful tug it pulled out and a tiny transparent square of plastic/rubber fell out with it. Looks like it was in there to keep it in place but i have no idea how to put it back in. Now the stylus removes fine and stays in place too :shock:
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Same here TyTN 1 week old.
same here,
think I'll swap mine over for a new one.....
raptorian said:
I had the same problem.
Could not get the staylus in with my TyTN.
So I did the mistake and pushed it in... a "knack" sound alerted me that something bad happened. Could not get the stylus in still... so I yanked a small rubber plastic piece from the stylus hole on my TyTN. Now I can slide easily the stylus in.
From teh reports I heard my guess is that the rubebr plastic inside the TyTN is used to firmly hold the stylus in. While without this rubebr plastic there is nothing to hold the stylus until you fully place it inside the TyTN.
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Same here in 5 days
happend with me after 2 weeks. I've been struggling for a week, and now it's workng again! Don't know how long it will last. I hope it won't brake down, I bought Hermes thrue internetshop. Always sick to return things.
I carry something like this, and only use the tytn stylus in emergencies. I'm hoping this will reduce wear.
Same here - less than 2 weeks.
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Same here 5 days, luckley I had a replacment on order for BT problems recived that today lets see how this one goes.
me 2
my TYTN's stylus wouldn't stay in the hole.
i sent my tytn to be replaced (due to BT problems and screen alignment)
and i hope i t won't happen again.
when i put the tytn in the box to be sent so the stylus stopped falling :? )
that is odd
My stylus is a little difficult to remove at times, so I had a look down inside the stylus hole and it appears that there are three of those little pink rubber squares protruding from the side and a dark rubber 'socket' at the end to grip the tip when it's fully inserted. The pink squares are obviously there to provide a little more grip along the length of the stylus, but my guess is that even without them the 'socket' at the end would hold the stylus in place. I imagine that over time the pink rubber will either soften up or disintegrate entirely with the friction.
Solution stylus problem
I had the same problem with my stylus, my solution is take a Poster Buddy Brand name Pritt it is so called here in Holland you can place posters and photo's with it on wals, doors etc. looks like white rubber glue, think I see it in the UK with the name Sticky here you can buy it with photostores and bookstores etc. Take a small piece of it turn it between your vingers to a small ball and put it in the stylus hole after that push it to the end with your stylus.
After I do this I have no further problem with the stylus it works great.
Same issue here... the 2nd day I had it a small transparent square rubber went out of the stylus hole. Now i can put it in and out without problems...
Loose/Jammed Stylus
I'm afraid sending device back for replacement/repair for the stylus problem and loose locking keyboard may only be a temporary fix. Having had my device dismantled I can see exactly what the problesms are with both stylus and keyboard.
For the stylus there is a small block of clear plastic designed to create a friction lock to stop it falling out. There is luckily another small plastic spring lock at the far end so if the stylus is fully in it should click in and not drop out even without the plastic block. The problem is that the plastic block is not held firmly in its slot and as it gets loose creates far too much friction against the stylus which can then drag it right out.
The loose keyboards are due to the metal runners (that you see on back of keyboard partially springing apart (breaking tiny micro welds) at the ends where they lock (or not!) open and closed. These runners if they have sprung open like this will never lock firmly again unless you perform a bit of DIY.
I have performed small operations to fix both these problems and my Keyboard now locks very firmly both open and closed. The stylus issue is dealt with internally with a felt runner at a specific location. BEWARE of course performing these operations will invalidate your warranty. I can be much more specific for anyone who wishes to contact me directly particularly with the keyboard issue which requires quite a chore in dismantling the device - though I can now perform this in half an hour start to finish (Not something I'm proud of with a new device, but I had to workout just how to do the fixes!! )
Actually otherwise I think TYTN is great - superb in fact which is why I did not send it back for repair - couldn't bear to be without it!.
PS Finger around the screen method works every time for me forget all that align screen caper.
Mike
@mikechannon: Do you have high quality pictures of disassembled device where we can see the chipset references? we need to gather information on the hardware used inside the Hermes...

Screen Rotation

Hi All,
I have updated to the latest AKU3 ROMs and also a few months ago I replaced the housing...However, I've noticed that the screen does not automatically rotate when the screen is swivelled??
Now is this because I did something during re-assembly of the housing OR is there something in the ROM's that disables the hardware somehow??
Cheers
ODY
Unlikely to be the rom, since it's part of the system HTC provided.
If it's been disassembled it's more likely that.
V
vijay555 said:
Unlikely to be the rom, since it's part of the system HTC provided.
If it's been disassembled it's more likely that.
V
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hey VJ, sorry to bother but do you know what jumper/cable/connector/switch to jump/disconnect/tape inside the Universal to keep it from switching?
I'm sure I saw someone mention that the screen rotation is done by a magnet and switch? It's possible that maybe a small magnet fell out during disassembly? But I have looked throught the Universal repair manual and I can't find any reference to such a magnet??
I'd be nice to know exactly where it is so one would be able to take it out, if it were easy. I don't know if I wanna disasemble mine yet...
EDIT found it!! If you use a very, very light metal chain, as I did, with a keyring @ end, you can hover it around the Universal and see the tension of the chain when it's near the magnet. the keyring sticks too!
it's on the lid, behind the video-call video camera. I'm going to check the lid part of the manual.
Well taking the screen section apart is easy! You don't have to disassemble the whole unit. Looks like my magnet fell out then! Trouble is I want to sell mine so I'll just have to declare the auto screen rotate doesn't work (I've made sure that there is the rotate screen icon on the task bar though!!)
Cheers
Ody
odyseus said:
Well taking the screen section apart is easy! You don't have to disassemble the whole unit. Looks like my magnet fell out then! Trouble is I want to sell mine so I'll just have to declare the auto screen rotate doesn't work (I've made sure that there is the rotate screen icon on the task bar though!!)
Cheers
Ody
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it works!! I tested it with the very small and highly magnetic point in the bezel of my tablet PC (to hold the pen) and it did change orientation.
thing is that it seems to be stuck beside the sound-holes (when the unit is closed).
I wonder how could I disassemble the lid only? are none of those screws @ the bottom connected to the back part of the lid? if so, that would be awesome!
Hi, on the xda's ftp, you'll find the maintenance manual for Universal...may help you to disassemble yours
thanx for the link!
however, it seems rather risky to try to pry the bezel open while still on the unit. Anyways I'm doing it right know. I'll get back to you.
I did pry it out and took the magnet off... painless(*) procedure and flea-sized magnet! don't loose!
I took a couple of pictures detailing the magnet position and the lid disassembled while still on the unit.
if you want to do this procedure do not loose the tiny screws and...
(*) be careful with the outer speaker (the one that lets you hear a call while the screen is facing the keyboard when closed), it isn't hard wired, it's just two small and fine contacts that might get distorted when putting the lid cover back... I had to take mine out again to correct this problem.
also, be careful with the screw driver and digitizer, as you'll be working in very akward positions to avoid disassembling the whole unit, and take off the battery of course.
Thanks for the photos - looks like my magnet feel out so I bought some 1/8 inch square magnets from ebay. It took a couple to find the sweet spot where the screen rotated but at least it works fibe now!
Cheers
Ody
odyseus said:
Thanks for the photos - looks like my magnet feel out so I bought some 1/8 inch square magnets from ebay. It took a couple to find the sweet spot where the screen rotated but at least it works fibe now!
Cheers
Ody
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no problem. I'm also going to put the magnet back, now the unit doesn't now when it's closed, and therefore the outer speaker does not work. the screen also does not turn off when closed, only when the system timer tells it too... oh well.
you can turn the screen off by pressing the power button briefly.
no ext speaker though! maybe there's a way in software to disable just the rotation; i think the guys trying to get linux comfortable on the universal have some experience with it, maybe they can help.

Wheres this bit go?

I took the back off my vario to fix the loose stylus problem, on reassembling I could not find a place for the attached piece! Anyone have any ideas
If I had to guess, it goes at the bottom of the stylus hole -- it looks like the piece that retains the stylus in the hole.
Thanks 3waygeek, looks a fit to me, I wondered if the clip had to make a connection somewhere. Working okay anyway, cheers m8.
Just pulled my Wizard apart to do the silicon solution to the loose stylus. Even though I was extra careful to make sure that nothing loose fell out, I found the same part stuck to the side of the speaker (magnet). I can't for the life of me see where it can go. It is designed to make contact with some part somewhere in fact it reminds me of an earth strap of some kind. I can't see how it can go anywhere near the base of the stylus. Any suggestions???

If you have dismantled your Wing

After replacing my LCD screen and putting my wing back together I noticed this piece was left! have no idea where it goes...can anyone help?
its like a small grey rubber piece
sxl said:
After replacing my LCD screen and putting my wing back together I noticed this piece was left! have no idea where it goes...can anyone help?
its like a small grey rubber piece
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Extra piece....jk, I have no idea lol.
Don't know what it's called but it goes on a square bumped out piece of metal near the antenna plug and vibrate thing on the top of the mainboard.
Same thing happen to me..
Looked like it's some sort of a "Mic Rubber Cap" which would help the device to easily acquire the noise that has been transmitted to the mic. Have you noticed that small hole on the bottom of your phone right beside the USB rubber cap? That's where it should be located parallel to the motherboard. I suggest you dismanlte and put it back again...
Btw, are there any differences on the mic while that rubber is out? perhaps you should try calling someone to test it...
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Looked like it's some sort of a "Mic Rubber Cap" which would help the device to easily acquire the noise that has been transmitted to the mic. Have you noticed that small hole on the bottom of your phone right beside the USB rubber cap? That's where it should be located parallel to the motherboard. I suggest you dismanlte and put it back again...
Btw, are there any differences on the mic while that rubber is out? perhaps you should try calling someone to test it...
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ya your right.. its an annoying piece.. it pops off.. its a cap on the bottom of the mother board covering a metal piece.. i dont know its exact purpose but it always feel off well i was trying to resemble the wing.

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