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How To deactivate GPRS (XDA Neo)

Hi!
I have a O2 xda neo. And whant to deactivate the GPRS temporaly. My old Siemens mobile could easiey do this in the network menu. But not the f*** Windows Mobile OS from M$? I couldn't find anything.
I just came back from a trip to Turkey and it happened exactly what I tried to avoid. I was charged a massive fee for using Internet over GPRS. I checked my emails daily over the hotel WLAN - but this had a pretty bad connection and it was lost all the time and then the stupid Windows connected me via GPRS - Ahhh. It seems that I was often not fast enough to abort this. Pretty expensive now.
So please help me, where can I deactivate GPRS when I am not at home?
Regards
mx

Easiest way IMHO is to use dummy GPRS profiles that can't connect.
V

but how do you make the 'G' symbol completely dissapear as i cant to wifi with it there

Hi sakinah!
The 'G' symbol is just there to tell you that the network supports GPRS. If it doesn't have 2 arrows under it, you are not connected.
As far as I know there is no way to get rid of it. However on my Jamin (= XDA Neo = prophet) it doesn't interfere with wifi. You should check your wifi settings, or try Hitchhiker for automatic configuration.
Good luck!

Browsing the web while on a call? possible?

is there any way on my mda i can use the wifi to browse the web while i talk on the phone via bluetooth or even wired? i heard theres a reg tweak but i cant locate it after many searches. please give me sum knowledge!

Not possible at the same time with GPRS/EDGE because your phone is class B. No class A phones are sold retail yet.
Yoıu have to suspend the call and browse the web or vice versa..

That's funny I can surf (either using WiFi or GPRS) and speak at the same time!
It was one of the main reasons I chose the qteck 9000.

OK! I edit..
You can not use GPRS/EDGE at the same time with phone call. One must be suspended. You CAN use wired or Wifi while talking on the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54738&highlight=

if you use UMTS connection and your provider is supporting it, you CAN surf while talking on the phone.

I confirm, Orange France does allow simultaneous 3G web + voice access I did the tests:
Was on a call switched to email picked up new mail, switched to PIE surfed some news sites as I kept on chating on the phone!
I thought the same was true with GPRS but I never did the above test over a GPRS connection...

It also works for T-Mobile in the UK, I use my MDA PRO as a 3G modem plugged into my PC via USB all day long, and can have phonecalls at exactly the same time as using the internet.
Neither one has to be "suspended", they both work at the same time (although internet use is a bit slower when you're on a call, because they both use the same bandwidth).
I haven't tested it with GPRS, that might well be different as 3G has a lot more bandwidth available than GPRS/CSD...

A few questions for sl9:
1. do you use the included Wmodem program to do this or did you configure something on your PC manually?
2. could you do the same with a BT connection from the WM5 machine to your PC (instead of using the USB cable)?
3. would using BT lower the available surfing speed on the PC?
4. what sort of data plan do you have to be able to "be connected all day"?
Thanks!

edeplano said:
A few questions for sl9:
1. do you use the included Wmodem program to do this or did you configure something on your PC manually?
2. could you do the same with a BT connection from the WM5 machine to your PC (instead of using the USB cable)?
3. would using BT lower the available surfing speed on the PC?
4. what sort of data plan do you have to be able to "be connected all day"?
Thanks!
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1. Yes, I am using WModem with the USB cable so the MDA PRO acts like a 3G broadband modem to my PC.
2. There should be no reason why you can't do the same with Bluetooth. But bear in mind Bluetooth is SLOWER than 3G (it's about as fast as GPRS), so if you want to use the full speed of 3G, you need to use the USB connection. IR (Infra-Red) is much faster than Bluetooth and faster than 3G, but slower than USB.
3. Yes - see no. 2 above for the reason why.
4. I am on T-Mobile UK's Web & Walk Professional, "unlimited" 3G and GPRS data use (they say 2GB max usage per month, but I never get near that). So I stay connected to my home PC from my office PC all day long with remote desktop :mrgreen: Surprsingly, this doesn't use too much bandwidth - this month I used about 600MB which is far below the 2GB they allow.
T-Mobile in the UK have the best data tarriff by FAR, I have this bolted onto a superb base voice tarriff too which is Flext 20 - a brilliant companion to WnW PRO in fact probably the best combo tarriff there is on any network, in any country :mrgreen:
Note: You can also use activesync at the same time as 3G WModem and making a voice call(!).
I have tested connecting to my PC with Activesync over bluetooth, connecting my PC to the internet using WModem over 3G with USB, and then making a voice call on my phone. It all worked! I could surf the net whilst talking on the phone and ActiveSync was busy synchronizing my calendar and e-mails at the same time. This is truly an amazing device, I love my MDA PRO :mrgreen:

Thanks for the quick reply!

OK guys.. the first post was about MDA, you are talking about 3G and MDA :?
I only mention about GPRS/EDGE not 3G/wired or smth. else..
I think we are not on the same thing. Forgive me if I am wrong..

do i have to change any settins to get wifi/phone call to work? because i cant seem to get it to go yet

For wi-fi + phone I o not think there is any settings that need changing.
Are you sure you have enough battery? If the level is low it could be possible there is not enough power to handle both radios...
Also are you sure both wi-fi and telephone work correctly if used by themselves?
Finally do you have an MDA IV (ie HTC Universal) because otherwise your in the wrong forum from the start!

i`m sure the wifi and the phone work themselves. and i have a tmobile mda tthe us version... i`lll try again and let u guys know what happens

HSDPA VIA TYTYN FROM PC ..??

Hi,
I was just wondering how to use my tytyn phone as a high speed modem from my pc..? basically I want to be able to connect my phone to laptop and surf at High speeds when on the move... anyone know how to do this..? I though you just connect via active sync and it defaults to your phone connection.. but any help is appreciated.. thanks.. :wink:

You need to turn Bluetooth on both devices. Pair them together and have your laptop use the Dial-Up service provided by your phone. No username and password. Just dial *99#

Thanks fo your reply.. but I dont have bluetooth on laptop.. can I use usb instead..?

Ok.. I tried the following but it didnt work... ! I connected phone to laptop via USb, then started wireless modem on phone, laptop (XP) picks up new modem, created new dial up with moblie as modem and *99# as dial up number, I see connections flashing on mobile and dial up attempts to connect but fails on user/pass , I triedleaving them blank, then user/wap (im on t-mobile) none of which worked.... any help is appreciated...

I am watching this thread with interest too.
I have a Bluetooth adapter for my laptop but would like to see what the experts say on here first..

FINALLY WORKING WITH 800KBPS DOWNLOAD..!!!!!!!
I finally got it working with my t mobile vario 2 ... if you have the same then the APN is general.t-mobile.uk and uername /pass is user pass
the rest of the settings I got from this thread..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37298&highlight=gprs+laptop
Now im surfing the net at nearly 1mb from my car..!!!!!!!!

Awsome! Watch your driving as you're sniping that eBay item though :shock:

ive been using my hsdpa via my vario 2 over bluetooth today and its very quick, someone was saying that there speed slowed down dramatically when they used it over bluetooth but i can confirm that they were tell porkies. Ive done speed tests on many different sites today through out the day and got 1.7mb every single time.
It is just like using wifi at home on 8mb for surfing sites, obviously downloading is slower though

Wireless modem ...

Hi to all , i'm a new user of TYTN .
I always use it as a modem to surf the web via BT in conjunction with my laptop.
My question is : there is a way to defaul the wireless modem to BT ( it default to usb ) when start the program and ( maybe ) the program starts automatically without select MENU>START....
ALSO : i saw that the internal modem work also when the device is into sleep mode and without starting the wireless modem but in this case the connection hang after few minutes ( i think the BT connection to the PC hang ).
If the device is in active state the internal modem work too and fine but if no data is exchanged for a while the device goes to sleep without advice then connection hang.
No problem using the wireless modem .
Again ... there is a way to add the internet sharing via PAN BT like hermes' brothers ( P3600) ???
thx in advance
Greeting from Italy
Davide

I'm having the same problem, also in Italy on TIM. I have tried two different SIM cards, different data plans, and can not find any pattern to the disonnects. If the connection sits idle, it will suddenly stop passing traffic. I have at times been able to keep the connection active by running a game (WoW) in the background on my laptop, but as soon as I the game quits due to timeout (not playing), the connection gets "stale" and dies. Other times, the game will not keep the connection active either. The time it stays active is inconsistent as well. Sometimes when I connect, I get no received packets, only sent. If I disconnect/reconnect 4 or 5 times, usually I will get a good connect and be able to open a web page. I do find it is worse in the daytime than in the evenings, but this is not always true.
BTW, I'm on a TyTn, MacBook Pro w/ the modem script linked from the wiki.
Any ideas?

@ jcolley :
i don't know about macbook , but a problem like your appear on micro$oft XP with the built in bluetooth stack .... much more better use the widcomm stack or toshiba stack for bluetooth

vdavide said:
Again ... there is a way to add the internet sharing via PAN BT like hermes' brothers ( P3600) ???
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Nope, as there still isn't an AKU3 ROM for the TyTN.
As far as disconnection problems are concerned, try using a desktop-based ping utility to keep up the connection.

Menneisyys said:
Nope, as there still isn't an AKU3 ROM for the TyTN.
As far as disconnection problems are concerned, try using a desktop-based ping utility to keep up the connection.
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OK , but i mean if there is an apps to do this .
BTW does AKU 3.3 support more than 1 pc connected to inte rnet trought PAN BT ?
thx.
Vdavide

3G high speed internet on BA via bluetooth?

Hello,
I've been searching the whole forum, but I cannot believe nobody is having the same problem (or idea) as I have:
BA is still great, but nowadays it's lack of 3G internet speed capability (no HSDPA or HSUPA, only gprs.. is becoming more and more quite a problem...
So I thought, wait, I'll connect my BA via bluetooth to another cell phone with 3G, HSDPA, etc. capabilities and basically connect to the internet through that phone, and have high speed internet!
However, I can't figure it out.
First I tried through DUN, but it turns out MS removed DUN from wm 6.1, and from what I can see, Internet sharing is not intended for this task. Or is it?
Can we have high speed internet on BA?
Thanks,
pooksee1802

I couldn't get it to work - but I have just got a 3G USB dongle which I hope will (with a connector cable) provide the old BA with 3G access..
I'm hoping I can configure the BA as if it were going through the USB activesync to the PC and so to the internet.
Anyone tried this yet??

hmm,
judging by the thread's view count it seems the issue is interesting, but unfortunately no answers...
c'mon guys, nobody interested in having high speed internet access on our BA's?
thank you!

in theory the scheme is simple but useless
you need laptop, 3g dongle connected to it and then BA connected to the laptop via cable (bluetooth is slow)and activesync, this is the only working way. This scheme is useless because if you carry the laptop why will do you need the BA?
there is no usb host on the BA so you can not connect the 3g usb dongle to it in any way, thats why you need the laptop

I am using BA with phone as Bluetooth modem towards HSPA network.
Actually, the initial purpose was to share one SIM card between phone and BA, which is more or less permanently installed in my car.
So far, the experience is good. I have 2Mbit HSDPA connection from Nokia E71 to my operator. Bluetooth link has a theoretical maximum speed of 1Mbit/s. In reality this is even slower, but way higher than you can get from EDGE Class 10.
The only problem is that THERE IS NO ROMs released lately, which support Bluetooth dialup. That's it.
ROMs I could get to work with phone as Bluetooth modem are WM5 ROMS and WM6 - "BA ROM CE OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0 PV DVH) 16MB PP (04)" (using it now).
All later builds do not even try to connect to BT DUN on phone and immediately show "Unable to dial *99#" prompt. No idea what they did to cripple BT DUN in WM 6.1 on BA.

the old dialup was dumped in all later ba rom builds but if it is required so much i can add it in a later build of my roms

Well, I would very appreciate it, really.

Stpark - that's exactly what I was trying to do!
Regarding BA's bluetooth speed, I was aware that it's bt is only ver. 1.1, that is quite slow, but I assumed it would nonetheless still be faster than ordinary gprs. Thanks again for the confirmation.
Stpark, by the way, searching for the "missing bluetooth DUN" I came across a WM developers blog, (http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/04/17/why-did-we-remove-bluetooth-dun.aspx) who said that actually they didn't remove it from the ROMs completely, they just put it as an option, but due to user's demand they will return it to the standard package in WM 6.5.
Xplode, thank you for all the roms so far, and I would also appreciate very very much a rom with the DUN included, and I think many of us would as well... Thank you...

To be exactly precise on DUN... There is DUN and there is another DUN.
There is model where your BA acts as DUN host (i.e. you dial from PC using your handheld as modem).
And there is model where your BA acts as DUN client (i.e. you dial from BA using you whetever mobile phone as modem).
So far we are talking about second model, whereas Microsoft is dropping DUN for first. It means that BA as modem role is being replaced by BT PAN. I am not aware about Microsoft being dropped DUN client role in Windows Mobile.
It seem to be just an issue with composition of latest BA ROMs.

That's right, we need the "second" option, that is when the BA acts as a client connecting to a host mobile phone with 3g internet connection.
Be it as it may, because I don't know if MS did drop DUN altogether, or just the first, host mode operation, we need the second one. I'd say badly.
Now I'm hoping for a ROM with DUN in it... (xplode..xplode..
ps. I'm writing this on my BA connected to the net through gprs, speed: 5 kb/s, just like dialup, happytime...

Well i am working on 20931 rom and may publish it these days, but i still have some issues with it when i solve them i will publish it

Well i am working on 20931 rom and may publish it these days, but i still have some issues with it (due to proper translation from chinese) when i solve them i will publish it