streaming video from PC + 802.11b or 802.11g to wizard - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

guys,
i've got a really straight question which probably gets complicated by specific scenarios but i'm hoping to collect in this thread all your feedback and experience so that i can make my final decision whether to buy or not...
...can you STREAM videos from your computer / router ( mine is 802.11b but i can buy a 802.11g if needed ) to the K-JAM without experiencing saccades ?
...i'm talking about .avi ( divx,xvid, mostly, some .mpg too ) files NOT CONVERTED to low rez or specific PDA bitrates usually around 700MB long ( yeah, movie rips ) I DO NOT want to recode for PDA viewing.
is there a difference in playback performance with videos of "weird" resolution ( 99% of my videos are NOT 640x480 precisely or 320 x 240 either ) ?
...if it's hard to playback for the WIZARD, do you think it's possible ( better ? ) to run TERMINAL SERVICES and have the PC perform the playback while the WIZARD only receives the image stream ?
THANKS A LOT for your feedback on this matter; this is really the one "to buy or not to buy" feature i'm looking for in the WIZARD.
=)
PS - on a side note, how would you judge viewing a movie on your WIZARD screen ?
is it too small for you ?
THANKS !

croquette said:
...if it's hard to playback for the WIZARD, do you think it's possible ( better ? ) to run TERMINAL SERVICES and have the PC perform the playback while the WIZARD only receives the image stream ?
PS - on a side note, how would you judge viewing a movie on your WIZARD screen ?
is it too small for you ?
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Not sure about the other questions but I can answer these.
You can't use Terminal Services to view video. It is far too slow, and only 16 colours so it would not work.
I am upgrading from the XDA Mini to the K-JAM, both of which have 2.8" QVGA screens, and viewing video on the 2.8" screen is fine. It looks better than my previous 3.5" QVGA screen because of the higher density of the pixels. You can't really see the black between the pixels. Its great!!
If you haven't purchased by Wednesday next week, I may be able to try it for you. I should get my K-JAM then

Without trying it, I would have to say that it's probably not possible to run full-size divx/avi/wmv from your wizard over wifi. It has a hard time just playing PDA-size videos off local storage.
It would be interesting for someone to confirm it with empirical evidence though.

I have only read good reports of video playback on the K-JAM.

Ive streamed many video files to my xd2i and now my exec...........occasionally it can slow up or re-buffer, but thats part of the the fun lol
You might need a different player to WM10 though, something like the Core player (TCPMP) does the job

Did anyone try to Stream Beyond TV to the Wizard ?????

can you see shared folders on your network? or do you just put in the URL/address manually to stream those videos?

i use www.orb.com
but i'd love to work out how the hell i can browse network shares via wireless on my wizard

you can see network folders if you have Resco File Explorer and then click on the file to play it. I don't think this works on WM file explorer and its a pain to enter a network address into the file field (to long). I haven't tried it with DIVX or MPG yet. but when I tried streaming with WMV I get an error. something about parameters. any ideas?

use pocketlan.
(or resco)
I can stream full size divx (movies from bittorrent) ok on my jam with wifi card but it does buffer quite a bit
the g might make a difference on the k-jam...

I have the same problem. Resco and Total commander can open shared "drive" but if I try to open *.wmv or *.wma by using WM10 I got an "error" from WM10.
But if I associate the wma mp3 avi to TPMC(Betaplayer) i will run!
Like if built in app will never open networked version...

adebilloez said:
I have the same problem. Resco and Total commander can open shared "drive" but if I try to open *.wmv or *.wma by using WM10 I got an "error" from WM10.
But if I associate the wma mp3 avi to TPMC(Betaplayer) i will run!
Like if built in app will never open networked version...
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sounds like you get further than me then.. i just get a nasty error when i try to even open a share thats got full access to anyone

I have the same problem. Resco and Total commander can open shared "drive" but if I try to open *.wmv or *.wma by using WM10 I got an "error" from WM10.
But if I associate the wma mp3 avi to TPMC(Betaplayer) i will run!
Like if built in app will never open networked version...

Well guys let me tell you that you can stream videos or music from your pc to your pocket pc via wifi anyway you have to install Windows media encoder to do this process and you will be watching the videos or listening to music from the Media player on your pocket pc ;D

Hello,
Already tried with WMEncoder 9 always get this "error" I guess that it's something with DRM but it's not...
When I use other device (WM2003 with wifi) Pocket WM works well...with my brodcasting PC
I think it's something with WM5 (not able to do wifi with my 3th device 2020 with Buzz1.6c czuz I don't have Wifi SD...) or 9100 ROM..
If anybody can test "built in" (ROM) app using shared resource
it will be great ...

guys,
have anyone among you lucky owners of a K-JAM finally managed to stream an .avi movie ( 700Mb and not 640x480 or 320x240 ) from the PC to your smartphone through an 802.11b or 802.11g wifi connection without saccades yet ?
i still fail to find confirmation of this online, and i'm hurting everytime i talk on my dying cell unable to upgrade just yet because i couldn't find the answer to this question to make up my mind...
=P
...i'm hoping you have some good news.
THANKS !=)

no and even 320*240...

ok, a month and a half has gone by since my first post, and i was wondering if you guys have had enough time to play with your new cell to give feedback about this specific topic... :roll:
i'm stuck with an almost useless phone until i upgrade, and i would REALLY join the WIZARD group...
PLEASE HELP ME !!!

adebilloez said:
no and even 320*240...
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Nope video stream is poor via my mda vario approx 50 %
Vario has only b wifi not g
ern

Just tried it with a 640*360 DivX file and its no good, but then having said that its prettymuch the same when i run the same file from the SD card. doesn't seem to like the decoding on the fly

Related

Any fix for full screen video on JasJar WMP

Is there any hack to gain full screen picture on the universal JasJar yet?
Reghack? If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike
Dude, you HAVE to switch to TCPMP! It's free, WAY better than WM, and plays a LOAD more codecs! COMPLETE no brainer once u know. Enjoy
True about TCPMP, but there are a number of services that use WMP. For instance, the popular online TV sharing tool Orb uses it for viewing programs. I don't believe TCPMP can be used in place of WMP for stuff like that.
Can you get orb to work at all on the jasjar i get an error when i try to play any video or music file says file is corrupt or not supported by windows media player
Chris
Mikee4fun said:
Is there any hack to gain full screen picture on the universal JasJar yet?
Reghack? If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike
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Funny thing that. Encode your own video and it won't play full screen, however record a video on the jasjar @32x240 resolution and WMP happily plays it in full screen mode. I don't think a hack is needed as much as a bug-fix (as you rightly state in your subject header)!! :roll:
JASJAR Full Screen Video
I disagree, any play back of videos created by the jasjar do not play back in full screen mode, they dont even take in full screen mode. I always have this tiny little square inside a big screen.
Re: JASJAR Full Screen Video. Works for me.
simon_darley said:
I disagree, any play back of videos created by the jasjar do not play back in full screen mode, they dont even take in full screen mode. I always have this tiny little square inside a big screen.
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Sorry to hear that simon_darley. Have you upgraded to the latest ROM? If yes, I can't help you, but if no, then you should do that first. Either way, I was merely posting my experience.
If I record video on my Jasjar @ 'Large (320x240)' in 'MPEG-4' format, I can play it back full screen in WMP no probs at all!
Re: JASJAR Full Screen Video. Works for me.
mackaby007 said:
If I record video on my Jasjar @ 'Large (320x240)' in 'MPEG-4' format, I can play it back full screen in WMP no probs at all!
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Me too. I'm on the latest ROM too, and there was a release note regarding full screen video that came with that ROM. I didn't read it very carefully, cause I too use TCPMP, but I think that's when it was fixed?
here are my settings:
perferct video and audio quality::::
640x450 screen size @ 15 fps and 300kb video bitrate and 90 kb video bitrate done as wmv format by tmpgenc 3.0.... for memory saving ive got 80 music vids on my 2gb sd card
if i wanna watch an avi or mpeg i use tcmp player with the original divx/mpeg coded videofile downloaded from the net
what file should i d/l ?!?
http://corecodec.org/frs/?group_id=53
I'm buying the JasJar and i didn't quite understand what files i need to d/l.
anyone ?
"tcpmp.arm.cabs.0.66.zip" if you want the .cab files which you copy to your JasJar and install locally.
"tcpmp.setup.0.66.exe" if you want to connect your JasJar to your computer via ActiveSync and run the .exe from the desktop to install it.
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10x sub

TCMP Wifi playback.

Has anyone managed to get a standard divx type format playing without having to buffer over wifi ?
Playing like a 700mb divx, avi or whatever it will stop to buffer every minute or so. Is there any way to play with any of the buffer settings to get it to play a file back without any buffering ?
I know I can convert the files to ppc and they would play fine but I was just wondering if there was a way to avoid this.
+1 Yeah, I would love to know this one. Is there any way to get a player to load a sufficient amount into memory (SD, storage) to play smoothly? I am using Resco Explorer 2005 and TCPMP.
No answer here, but I'd like to know this too! I tried to watch something over WiFi and it was shocking. Damn... that... spinning... pie... chart... thing! :lol:
I'm kinda surprise..certain wmv files I've played does not have any buffer..
But i've compared 2 video in Mpeg and Wmv format. the Wmv format (320X240 pixel, bit rate 234kbps,16bit,2(stereo) audi sample rate 32Khz) can play the movie smoothly.Perhaps we should look into the size and format or the bitrate?Sorry I'm not a pro in this..
Spooling via VLC (Macintosh) to TCPMP over WiFi works smoothly without buffering on all the files i have tried. For those formats not supported you can transcode the video and audio and set the bit-rate at whatever you want.
Been playing with the settings, and while the video only is a little choppy on higher bitrate stuff with fast movement, I'm no longer experiencing the dreaded piechart for most stuff.
Could not tell you which of my settings are affecting it though, but theoretically, how can the wifi network be the weak link? Even the slower version of wifi should be able to stream this amount of data....?
Of whats in my vid folder right now, I'm experiencing the following:
Surface - not full 24fps via wireless, but extremely watchable, no piechart
xvid - 624x352 - 1104kb/s, 128kb/s audio
Sleeper Cell - not full fps but again extremely watchable, no piechart
xvid - 624x352 - 865kb/s, 131kb/s audio
Powaqqatsi - awful jerky quality. No piechart, but the video freezes every couple of secs, while audio continues. Unwatchable
divx5 - 592x320 - 1654kb/s, 448kb/s audio
Hidden Fortress - Works perfectly due to low bitrate/screensize, either in 100% mode or fit-screen mode - tcpmp doesn't do subtitles though, argh!!
xvid - 416x176 - 509kb/s, 192kb/s audio
Intoxicated - Works well enough in 100% or fit-screen mode - got one piechart though
xvid - 512x288 - 946kb/s, 115kb/s audio
Used GSpot to find out bitrate etc, highly recommend it.
Indeed, 802.11b at feeble rate SHOULD be able to handle it. It can make a difference if the hard-disk on the network PC is fragmented.
I would defragment mine, but they are too full so it'd take hours... doh!
Melty said:
Indeed, 802.11b at feeble rate SHOULD be able to handle it. It can make a difference if the hard-disk on the network PC is fragmented.
I would defragment mine, but they are too full so it'd take hours... doh!
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Good tip - mine WILL be highly fragmented, I let it get near full a few times.
Will run it overnight, see if it improves matters.
Still found it had to buffer even when switching the audio to mono and reducing the video quality to low.
There is obviously a bottle neck somewhere on the universal. I had this problem on the wizard but the impression I got was it was down to the cpu. I thought the Uni may have been okay but its just the same.
Im assuming maybe the cpu is doing so much in tcmp to decode the file, there isnt enough time left to actually get the wifi running smooth enough.
Has anyone tried to run a file of large divx size from a memory card to see if its even an issue from there ?
knowsleyroader said:
Has anyone tried to run a file of large divx size from a memory card to see if its even an issue from there ?
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Will do that right now with powaqqatsi, the highest bitrate one from my list above.
EDIT: Works perfectly at 100% and fit-screen mode. Smooth as a babys bum, even fast moving stuff.
Processor ain't the bottleneck as such...
belfast-biker said:
knowsleyroader said:
Has anyone tried to run a file of large divx size from a memory card to see if its even an issue from there ?
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Will do that right now with powaqqatsi, the highest bitrate one from my list above.
EDIT: Works perfectly at 100% and fit-screen mode. Smooth as a babys bum, even fast moving stuff.
Processor ain't the bottleneck as such...
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Yup agree with you,I've tried a large divx size movie and it play the move smoothly on SD card
So maybe the answer is the tcmp streaming ? Having said that its the same with webpages. They dont load anywhere near as quick as on a desktop so for me even b wifi isnt getting anywhere near to capacity never mind bringing g into the mix.
Hello all first post on forum.
I need some feedback on this:-
I have changed the TCPMP Player settings as follows
Normal Buffer size 49984KB
Preload at underrun 200%
I still get the video to stop with pie chart appearing but its less frequent but the stop is a bit longer. It’s a bit better but not perfect maybe someone can try some other numbers and combinations. For me these are the best I could get.
Could someone give me some tips as to how i can stream video's on my PC to my jasjar.
I have a Linksys WAG54G router.
Appreciate it.
Doc:
You have to make the files on the host pc 'shared' (right click> properties > sharing.. on windows xp). Once youve done that, use a file explorer program such as Resco File Explorer to access the host PC from your phone via your wifi network. Browse to the file you want, then tell it to play!
Hi Richard,
Thanks for the quick reply.
I have already done what you have said. But when i try to map a drive through resco explorer,i get an error saying "No computer found in the network. Check your network card or modify settings to specify your network subsets"
What do you suppose i am doing wrong?
Thanks.
Itll be an issue with the way windows manages networks... check settings such as the workgroup/domain you are on (My computer > Computer name)
Just fiddle around until it works
Ummm, sorry if i am sounding thick Richard.
I haven't setup any workgroup or domain. This is my home wireless network and i am the only one using it. My computer name is "Universal". When i try to map a network drive through resco explorer, it doesn't even see a computer with that name.
What do you think?
Dont worry :-D
The only reason I know a lot about wireless networks is that mine is always breaking ;p
Workgroups and domains are silly little things the Microsoft likes you to organise your computers on a network into. Regardless of the fact that you only have one, that one PC still needs to be grouped, so old Bill is happy. I havent the foggiest what the practical differences are between workgroups and domains, but I know you may only be in one of the two at once. Check on the My computer page I mentioned, see if anything looks awry. Failing that, tick/untick boxes until it works....
Hi again Richard,
Well, i finally got my jasjar to see my computer through resco file explorer.
NEW PROBLEM!!!
When i click on the share button, i get the following error:
"Cannot map network path. Network resource cannot be found or you do not have a permission to access the network. Contact your network administrator".
All firewalls are off. I dont know what is blocking it. Suggestions?

Windows Media won't go full screen

On all my other XDAs I could view videos in complete full mode.
I have tried all I can to find out how my exec will play a movie in full and it won't.
It just blacks out the rest of the screen and plays a tiny little video in letterbox shape.
This is so so so annoying and i would love to find out if anyone can help.
I haven't seen anything on here about it - search returns nil.
Is anyone able to play Full Screen????
Help me.
Use a freeware player like TCPMP. WMP doesn't support full-screen playback, its a problem with the OS itself.
So this is a bug isolated to WM5/WMP10 only? WMP9 doesn't have any problems on WM 2003.
This problem is request and know in i-mate web... Looking for solutions.
Worked on wm9
Yeah I agree, on my old XDA ii and XDA iis it worked fine. must be a wm10 or wmb5 thing.
With that in mind, is there a way to put windows media 9 on my pda?
Also on another subject, i just did the latest upgrade ofrom from o2's site and my phone keeps crashing and has the following errors:
* when I go back to the today screen, the last window is still showing on the icon left hand side of the screen, therefore stopping me from selecting things.
* My e-mail accounts keep disapearing although the name of them still shows in the selection option in the today screen. This used to happen all the time before the upgrade and now it is worse. Usually deletes the account after a soft reset or crash. annoying thing is you can't name a new account with the previous name as it is still stored in the memory somewhere but you can't find it in the e-mail program.
* when i did my upgrade, I copied everything across from the pda (drag and drop) so that I could re-insert the message files to keep my sms's, although it just copied empty folders. Are all the files locked or restricted or did I need to perform the drag and drop by files and not folders?
I seem to have a love and hate relationship with my pda. Although, the best thing about wmb5 is the memory, no more lost data when your battery dies. They are getting closer to laptop functionality and I can't wait to see what the next version has to offer.
* and finally, it is slower than ever.
Hi all
Any updates or new ifo on why wm10 doesnt play recorded videos in full screen?
thanks
Hi all
Any updates or new ifo on why wm10 doesnt play recorded videos in full screen?
thanks
Windows Media player full screen
Hi,
Samething is missing.
I have a Xda Universal and a Xda Atom.
Last Rom in both.
Running ORB (www.orb.com) on home PC.
Xda Universal connect via Wifi steam via orb cannot get full screen.
Xda Atom same connection same programs install via Wifi I can get full screen in Windows Media Player. Both systems WM5.
Why can´t I see full screen in Universal?
Regards
JoseF
I don't know how it say it nicely (but I mean no disrespect) but the point needs to be made: Trying to use WMP for video playback is so worthless (compared to using TCPMP) that it is rediculous to spend time and effort in regards to the video play back in WMP not being full screen. If you're not the kind of person who would be willing to try the free TCPMP (soon to be BetaPlayer or pay version CorePlayer) then there's no reason to be on these forums.
Hi . I usually use TCPMP
The point is that it you can see in full screen in WMP in WM5
The question is why you can see in the Atom but not in the Universal
If you see the topic is
"Windows Media won't go full screen"
The question is not using TCPMP
JoseF
Agree with JoseF.
Sometimes you just need wmp10 to do the job, like wmv streaming. I'm not sure TCPMP support that.
But of course wmp10 can go full screen if the original video size is bigger than 640x480.
I find that WMP gives better sound quality (and slightly more volume) than TCPMP when listening through headphones.
Good as TCPMP is, if WMP would play videos properly I would uninstall TCPMP and use the space for something else instead. Is anyone looking at a hack to get WMP working properly?
Rowan
jerome923 said:
Agree with JoseF.
But of course wmp10 can go full screen if the original video size is bigger than 640x480.
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In other words WMP is working fine with videos over 640x480 - thats good news - will try it later.
Matt

media player

since everyone is telling (youtube etc) that the buildt in mp is crap.
who has a better one?
for video?
the built in player is excellent for things that are encoded for it. beautiful quality
anything else use coreplayer.
Jamiewalshe said:
for video?
the built in player is excellent for things that are encoded for it. beautiful quality
anything else use coreplayer.
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2nd that. I use CorePlayer, brilliant program
nicelad_uk said:
2nd that. I use CorePlayer, brilliant program
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in many movies on youtube they say that the coreplayer has blue screen flickering with video palyback (with video out cable)
I have been looking at CorePlayer, the WindowsMobile PocketPC version, and under notes it says:
CE/Windows Mobile/PocketPC/Smartphone
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- Does not support the Qualcomm MSM7200 QTv chipset (we only support the MSM7500)
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Doesn't the TP2 use a Qualcomm 7200 chip?
Edit: no idea why it says the above, but I bit the bullet and bought the app and it works soooo sweetly =)
I used coreplayer on my tytn2 but it won't run on my touch pro 2 it fails to start everytime ????
just downloaded an ipod movies .mp4 video and all it shows up as on the built in media player is perfect sound but a green screen ??? why is it so hard to play video's on my phone
I'm using Coreplayer 1.3.2 Build 6909 for ARM atm on my TP2. Had no problem with the install, and it runs all my Xvid/DivX movies just fine.
Mediaplayer, wont show any files in its library so i stopped using that, for music I'm using that crappy Touchflo player (library is too limited for me)
For Vid's I really recommend you to use Coreplayer, it plays music as well, although I haven't tried that yet
just looked at their site and they want me to pay $29 for it !!!! it may be annoying not to be able to watch certain movies on my phone but it isn't worth parting with the much money. I used TCPMP player previously before it became commercially Coreplayer, it worked on my tytn and it was free, since it's become commercial I guess it's no longer an option.
MP4 Player fix for TP2 PLEASE!?
I'd just like to take this moment to say AHHHHHH!!! I'm about to pull what little hair i have left OUT!!
Ok... I've dug through 1000s of sites and forums, 100s of downloads, installs, uninstalls onto memory card and or directly onto my phone. Downloaded even directly to Desktop computer to open / transfer / unzip to removable, then active sync, drag drops, etc... etc...etc...
I had a good TCPMP Player on my winMo5.0 phone that lasted me the last couple years. Now on TP2 WinMo6.1 It doesnt work and i FINALLY found a new one to download and hear people DO have it working on theirs while others don't.... the player they sent with the device beyond sucks!! and I am unable to view flash on the fly..
I even PAID for the download and recieved NO help whatsoever so I'm here after a YEAR of great advice from you all...
I downloaded TCPMP.pocketPC.0.72rc1,
ran the .cab and all seemed to work correctly and even have the shortcut in my programs.. I click on it and receive this pop open:
::::Unexpected program failure. Please send "crash.txt" to the developers. Program will now exit::::
I read some on people saying there is a fix or an add.. please help this long term beginner... PLEASE... I would pay if anYONE could make this simple.. I need to use my phone and cant risk dinking around tOO much with it.
AnYthInG... PLEASE?!?!
gOOOD mp4 player that has been tested and you can walk me through step by step
OR if Im to use the player on the phone currently, how can I create an option for it to auto replay until I can fix the TCPMP so I can move smoothly through the frames
GREATLY appRecIated in AdvAnCe!!!
Which Coreplayer version for us?
I see there are 2 arm versions of coreplayer. For the TP2, would I get the "Pocket PC / Arm" or "Smartphone / Arm" version? Both say they are for Windows Mobile.
NetGoo said:
I see there are 2 arm versions of coreplayer. For the TP2, would I get the "Pocket PC / Arm" or "Smartphone / Arm" version? Both say they are for Windows Mobile.
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"Pocket PC / Arm"
DrProphecy said:
I downloaded TCPMP.pocketPC.0.72rc1,
ran the .cab and all seemed to work correctly and even have the shortcut in my programs.. I click on it and receive this pop open:
::::Unexpected program failure. Please send "crash.txt" to the developers. Program will now exit::::
I read some on people saying there is a fix or an add.. please help this long term beginner... PLEASE... I would pay if anYONE could make this simple.. I need to use my phone and cant risk dinking around tOO much with it.
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This forum does have a search facility, you know. Had you considered using it?
Download the version of TCPMP that you'll find here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3275845&postcount=172
Then go into the Settings screen, the DirectDraw page, and tick the box that says "use blitting instead of overlay".

how to stream movies from pc to TouchHD over wifi?

Hi,
I managed to access the shared folders on my desktop with resco explorer. I wanted to see if i could stream movies. On my previous device (Kaiser) there was a lot buffering & stuttering so i hoped the TouchHD would handle things better, but in fact it's worse. Windows media player says "cant play file" (for avi) and streaming mp3 is terribly slow. Coreplayer doesnt know how to find files when launched from resco explorer same goes for htc videoplayer.
Does anyone have a tip to get a decent stream? My wifi network is fast enough and the touch hd is perfectly capable of playing movies from the sd card so it should be possible, theoratically...?
Thanks in advance.
I just used the network cab (sorry in a hurry or would find the thread), browse to the file, and click on it, having set it to open automatically in CorePlayer. Results: Coreplayer loads and starts playing the file (and it's just able to keep up, through one thick wall
Although if people have better suggestions/settings, please share!
Use VideoLAN streaming to resize and reduce the bitrate on the fly. http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/streaming-howto-en.html
Personally I still use Orb as mentioned here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3370433#post3370433
In conjunction with Coreplayer it's certainly ftw.
welki1979 said:
Personally I still use Orb as mentioned here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3370433#post3370433
In conjunction with Coreplayer it's certainly ftw.
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+1 for ORB
It'll also do TV if you have a tuner in your host PC.
It'll automatically set the stream bitrate depending on your connection speed, so streaming over 3G/HSPDA should also be possible depending on your provider.
djmc321 said:
+1 for ORB
It'll also do TV if you have a tuner in your host PC.
It'll automatically set the stream bitrate depending on your connection speed, so streaming over 3G/HSPDA should also be possible depending on your provider.
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Yeah the TV bit will take a bit of configuring but it's nothing too complicated. I have it installed on my media centre and it's quite clever in the fact that if media centre is using all the tuners it will even give you the option to shut down media centre remotly so you can watch telly from anywhere.
Mediacentre does not need to be shut down this way to watch/listen to/read any other files on the host though.
4 years running Orb with no issues.
Opera browser seems to struggle a bit so I've created an 'Orb.lnk' file on my start menu that calls Pocket Internet Explorer for loading Orb without changing the default PIE homepage.....I've even got an icon assigned to it thanks to SKTools Shortcut Manager and a .dll I created using GConvert 5.0.
(Also see this thread to edit menu icons)
EDIT: forgot to mention that they've now implemented another option to power on the PC remotely (currently via another download provided by Mycast on the Orb site).
But why is it so difficult for the device to stream over wifi while it can pay fine from the card? The speed cant be the issue.
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But why is it so difficult for the device to stream over wifi while it can pay fine from the card? The speed cant be the issue.
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I myself only have a cheap standard G wireless router and obviously experience serious playback issues trying to stream the original files without converting them to another format first....it can take up to 20 mins to start playing.
..however....if you stream the file(s) via VLC, ORB or something similar the stream is compressed better and playback begins almost instantly...and it also saves converting all your files prior to watching them.
Generally speaking....unless you have a N or N+ router then you will certainly get streaming problems with larger video files.
Also....another thing to note is that unless you've enabled it the wireless in the Touch HD (Blackstone) only works on Wireless B not G as standard.
There is a .CAB to enable wireless G or you can use HD Tweak to do it.
welki1979 said:
I myself only have a cheap standard G wireless router and obviously experience serious playback issues trying to stream the original files without converting them to another format first....it can take up to 20 mins to start playing.
..however....if you stream the file(s) via VLC, ORB or something similar the stream is compressed better and playback begins almost instantly...and it also saves converting all your files prior to watching them.
Generally speaking....unless you have a N or N+ router then you will certainly get streaming problems with larger video files.
Also....another thing to note is that unless you've enabled it the wireless in the Touch HD (Blackstone) only works on Wireless B not G as standard.
There is a .CAB to enable wireless G or you can use HD Tweak to do it.
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Thanks. I already enabled it using hd tweak and my router is a wireless N so streaming should be no problem at all. I still believe it's a flaw of the Touch HD (and older htc devices) somehow that it's unable to stream files properly.
Coreplayer doesnt know how to find files when launched from resco explorer same goes for htc videoplayer.
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It's worth trying to re-assign the file types to coreplayer with another application so that Core is used instead of the standard software. You can set more buffering options in Coreplayer than most other appliactions.
Thanks. I already enabled it using hd tweak and my router is a wireless N so streaming should be no problem at all. I still believe it's a flaw of the Touch HD (and older htc devices) somehow that it's unable to stream files properly.
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The router might be N but the other thing to bear in mind is that the HD is only Standard G so won't benefit from N speeds only the signal range.
How large are the files you're trying to stream? I just streamed a 350mb 1 hour recorded video straight from my mediabox to my HD by browsing to the file in Total Commander and opening it with Coreplayer with very little stuttering....took a long time to buffer the first part though has to be said I'll be sticking to using Orb for most of my streaming.
Also, what Radio do you have installed? As different Radio Roms (if thats the correct term!?) will perform differently, sometimes depending on where you are and what handset you're using. I use 1.14.xx and the only issue I have with it is the extra heat it generates.
welki1979 said:
Also....another thing to note is that unless you've enabled it the wireless in the Touch HD (Blackstone) only works on Wireless B not G as standard.
There is a .CAB to enable wireless G or you can use HD Tweak to do it.
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What is the Option in HD Tweak ? I'm running 0.5.4 and under Wifi it only lists,
7.1 Wifi standby mode
7.2 Wifi certificate mode
It's in there somewhere...I no longer have it installed to check though.
welki1979 said:
It's worth trying to re-assign the file types to coreplayer with another application so that Core is used instead of the standard software. You can set more buffering options in Coreplayer than most other appliactions.
The router might be N but the other thing to bear in mind is that the HD is only Standard G so won't benefit from N speeds only the signal range.
How large are the files you're trying to stream? I just streamed a 350mb 1 hour recorded video straight from my mediabox to my HD by browsing to the file in Total Commander and opening it with Coreplayer with very little stuttering....took a long time to buffer the first part though has to be said I'll be sticking to using Orb for most of my streaming.
Also, what Radio do you have installed? As different Radio Roms (if thats the correct term!?) will perform differently, sometimes depending on where you are and what handset you're using. I use 1.14.xx and the only issue I have with it is the extra heat it generates.
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i am running mirri's 6.5 manila 2.5 rom at the moment, but previous roms dealed with streaming the same way. I still believe the wifi on the hd is fast enough to stream a divx movie (650mb). I just downloaded a 9 mb pdf file to my phone and it was there in seconds! Also transferrings mp3s from my hd to my hd over wifi is quite fast.
But to be honest i cant tell how it streams movies really as long as i cant get coreplayer to play network files. The error i get is: File not found!\Network\my dir name
i tried it with Total Commander which also gives me a file not found error in coreplayer
any suggestions?
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i am running mirri's 6.5 manila 2.5 rom at the moment, but previous roms dealed with streaming the same way. I still believe the wifi on the hd is fast enough to stream a divx movie (650mb). I just downloaded a 9 mb pdf file to my phone and it was there in seconds! Also transferrings mp3s from my hd to my hd over wifi is quite fast.
But to be honest i cant tell how it streams movies really as long as i cant get coreplayer to play network files. The error i get is: File not found!\Network\my dir name
i tried it with Total Commander which also gives me a file not found error in coreplayer
any suggestions?
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It's not the ROM thats the issue, what radio are you using?
The RADIO is not generally built into the ROM's Miri distributes and you'll need to do any Radio changes yourself.
As stated before I use 1.14.xx with the rilphone.dll and my HD does stream the files directly but it takes ages to start playing without any prior conversion, sometimes up to 20 mins with the rare occasion where I get a 'buffer overflow' error from Coreplayer.
my radio is 1.13.25.24
hmm. Mine is working fine from Network drive (NAS) with coreplayer, and resco explorer.
buffers very little in beginning, buffering set to microdrive mode. and set little higher buffer value.
no stutters unless going too far from hotspot.
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my radio is 1.13.25.24
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Never tried that one myself, it might be worth experimenting with others.
I would try to ask the advice of someone in the ROM development area....they do a lot of tweaking there with Radios as well as ROMs.
Maybe even Tunppi can help somehow. What Radio do you use Tunppi?
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hmm. Mine is working fine from Network drive (NAS) with coreplayer, and resco explorer.
buffers very little in beginning, buffering set to microdrive mode. and set little higher buffer value.
no stutters unless going too far from hotspot.
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Excellent information! Thanks everyone!

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