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streaming video from PC + 802.11b or 802.11g to wizard

guys,
i've got a really straight question which probably gets complicated by specific scenarios but i'm hoping to collect in this thread all your feedback and experience so that i can make my final decision whether to buy or not...
...can you STREAM videos from your computer / router ( mine is 802.11b but i can buy a 802.11g if needed ) to the K-JAM without experiencing saccades ?
...i'm talking about .avi ( divx,xvid, mostly, some .mpg too ) files NOT CONVERTED to low rez or specific PDA bitrates usually around 700MB long ( yeah, movie rips ) I DO NOT want to recode for PDA viewing.
is there a difference in playback performance with videos of "weird" resolution ( 99% of my videos are NOT 640x480 precisely or 320 x 240 either ) ?
...if it's hard to playback for the WIZARD, do you think it's possible ( better ? ) to run TERMINAL SERVICES and have the PC perform the playback while the WIZARD only receives the image stream ?
THANKS A LOT for your feedback on this matter; this is really the one "to buy or not to buy" feature i'm looking for in the WIZARD.
=)
PS - on a side note, how would you judge viewing a movie on your WIZARD screen ?
is it too small for you ?
THANKS !

croquette said:
...if it's hard to playback for the WIZARD, do you think it's possible ( better ? ) to run TERMINAL SERVICES and have the PC perform the playback while the WIZARD only receives the image stream ?
PS - on a side note, how would you judge viewing a movie on your WIZARD screen ?
is it too small for you ?
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Not sure about the other questions but I can answer these.
You can't use Terminal Services to view video. It is far too slow, and only 16 colours so it would not work.
I am upgrading from the XDA Mini to the K-JAM, both of which have 2.8" QVGA screens, and viewing video on the 2.8" screen is fine. It looks better than my previous 3.5" QVGA screen because of the higher density of the pixels. You can't really see the black between the pixels. Its great!!
If you haven't purchased by Wednesday next week, I may be able to try it for you. I should get my K-JAM then

Without trying it, I would have to say that it's probably not possible to run full-size divx/avi/wmv from your wizard over wifi. It has a hard time just playing PDA-size videos off local storage.
It would be interesting for someone to confirm it with empirical evidence though.

I have only read good reports of video playback on the K-JAM.

Ive streamed many video files to my xd2i and now my exec...........occasionally it can slow up or re-buffer, but thats part of the the fun lol
You might need a different player to WM10 though, something like the Core player (TCPMP) does the job

Did anyone try to Stream Beyond TV to the Wizard ?????

can you see shared folders on your network? or do you just put in the URL/address manually to stream those videos?

i use www.orb.com
but i'd love to work out how the hell i can browse network shares via wireless on my wizard

you can see network folders if you have Resco File Explorer and then click on the file to play it. I don't think this works on WM file explorer and its a pain to enter a network address into the file field (to long). I haven't tried it with DIVX or MPG yet. but when I tried streaming with WMV I get an error. something about parameters. any ideas?

use pocketlan.
(or resco)
I can stream full size divx (movies from bittorrent) ok on my jam with wifi card but it does buffer quite a bit
the g might make a difference on the k-jam...

I have the same problem. Resco and Total commander can open shared "drive" but if I try to open *.wmv or *.wma by using WM10 I got an "error" from WM10.
But if I associate the wma mp3 avi to TPMC(Betaplayer) i will run!
Like if built in app will never open networked version...

adebilloez said:
I have the same problem. Resco and Total commander can open shared "drive" but if I try to open *.wmv or *.wma by using WM10 I got an "error" from WM10.
But if I associate the wma mp3 avi to TPMC(Betaplayer) i will run!
Like if built in app will never open networked version...
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sounds like you get further than me then.. i just get a nasty error when i try to even open a share thats got full access to anyone

I have the same problem. Resco and Total commander can open shared "drive" but if I try to open *.wmv or *.wma by using WM10 I got an "error" from WM10.
But if I associate the wma mp3 avi to TPMC(Betaplayer) i will run!
Like if built in app will never open networked version...

Well guys let me tell you that you can stream videos or music from your pc to your pocket pc via wifi anyway you have to install Windows media encoder to do this process and you will be watching the videos or listening to music from the Media player on your pocket pc ;D

Hello,
Already tried with WMEncoder 9 always get this "error" I guess that it's something with DRM but it's not...
When I use other device (WM2003 with wifi) Pocket WM works well...with my brodcasting PC
I think it's something with WM5 (not able to do wifi with my 3th device 2020 with Buzz1.6c czuz I don't have Wifi SD...) or 9100 ROM..
If anybody can test "built in" (ROM) app using shared resource
it will be great ...

guys,
have anyone among you lucky owners of a K-JAM finally managed to stream an .avi movie ( 700Mb and not 640x480 or 320x240 ) from the PC to your smartphone through an 802.11b or 802.11g wifi connection without saccades yet ?
i still fail to find confirmation of this online, and i'm hurting everytime i talk on my dying cell unable to upgrade just yet because i couldn't find the answer to this question to make up my mind...
=P
...i'm hoping you have some good news.
THANKS !=)

no and even 320*240...

ok, a month and a half has gone by since my first post, and i was wondering if you guys have had enough time to play with your new cell to give feedback about this specific topic... :roll:
i'm stuck with an almost useless phone until i upgrade, and i would REALLY join the WIZARD group...
PLEASE HELP ME !!!

adebilloez said:
no and even 320*240...
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Nope video stream is poor via my mda vario approx 50 %
Vario has only b wifi not g
ern

Just tried it with a 640*360 DivX file and its no good, but then having said that its prettymuch the same when i run the same file from the SD card. doesn't seem to like the decoding on the fly

Windows Media Player - Full Screen

Dear guys,
I have a little question ..
Each time i look to files on my jasjar and when i put it on full screen, it stills stays quite little..
Is there a way to get a movie on real full screen ???
Thanks !

Use TCPMP for Windows Mobile, its a freeware from here http://corecodec.org/frs/?group_id=53&release_id=224#r224

Sadly TCPMP doesn't support streaming video, which I use WMP for a lot, but cannot play full screen. I do use tcpmp for playing files of my SD card and it works VERY well.
Is there any way to get streaming working with TCPMP? Failing that is there a different player that will do the job?

OK - Update:
The latest TCPMP (0.71) does support streaming, but when I try to use it I get an "Unknown File Type" error.
I'll keep playing with it.

Which file do I use?
Is it this one? tcpmp.arm.cabs.0.71.zip
And then which cab file do I use and how?
O2 Exec user.
I'm assuming this will allow video playback and recording to use the full screen. Correct?
Many Thanks.

Use ac3.cabs.0.71 for the codec and tcpmp.arm.cabs.0.71 for the player.

Windows Media won't go full screen

On all my other XDAs I could view videos in complete full mode.
I have tried all I can to find out how my exec will play a movie in full and it won't.
It just blacks out the rest of the screen and plays a tiny little video in letterbox shape.
This is so so so annoying and i would love to find out if anyone can help.
I haven't seen anything on here about it - search returns nil.
Is anyone able to play Full Screen????
Help me.

Use a freeware player like TCPMP. WMP doesn't support full-screen playback, its a problem with the OS itself.

So this is a bug isolated to WM5/WMP10 only? WMP9 doesn't have any problems on WM 2003.

This problem is request and know in i-mate web... Looking for solutions.

Worked on wm9
Yeah I agree, on my old XDA ii and XDA iis it worked fine. must be a wm10 or wmb5 thing.
With that in mind, is there a way to put windows media 9 on my pda?
Also on another subject, i just did the latest upgrade ofrom from o2's site and my phone keeps crashing and has the following errors:
* when I go back to the today screen, the last window is still showing on the icon left hand side of the screen, therefore stopping me from selecting things.
* My e-mail accounts keep disapearing although the name of them still shows in the selection option in the today screen. This used to happen all the time before the upgrade and now it is worse. Usually deletes the account after a soft reset or crash. annoying thing is you can't name a new account with the previous name as it is still stored in the memory somewhere but you can't find it in the e-mail program.
* when i did my upgrade, I copied everything across from the pda (drag and drop) so that I could re-insert the message files to keep my sms's, although it just copied empty folders. Are all the files locked or restricted or did I need to perform the drag and drop by files and not folders?
I seem to have a love and hate relationship with my pda. Although, the best thing about wmb5 is the memory, no more lost data when your battery dies. They are getting closer to laptop functionality and I can't wait to see what the next version has to offer.
* and finally, it is slower than ever.

Hi all
Any updates or new ifo on why wm10 doesnt play recorded videos in full screen?
thanks

Hi all
Any updates or new ifo on why wm10 doesnt play recorded videos in full screen?
thanks

Windows Media player full screen
Hi,
Samething is missing.
I have a Xda Universal and a Xda Atom.
Last Rom in both.
Running ORB (www.orb.com) on home PC.
Xda Universal connect via Wifi steam via orb cannot get full screen.
Xda Atom same connection same programs install via Wifi I can get full screen in Windows Media Player. Both systems WM5.
Why can´t I see full screen in Universal?
Regards
JoseF

I don't know how it say it nicely (but I mean no disrespect) but the point needs to be made: Trying to use WMP for video playback is so worthless (compared to using TCPMP) that it is rediculous to spend time and effort in regards to the video play back in WMP not being full screen. If you're not the kind of person who would be willing to try the free TCPMP (soon to be BetaPlayer or pay version CorePlayer) then there's no reason to be on these forums.

Hi . I usually use TCPMP
The point is that it you can see in full screen in WMP in WM5
The question is why you can see in the Atom but not in the Universal
If you see the topic is
"Windows Media won't go full screen"
The question is not using TCPMP
JoseF

Agree with JoseF.
Sometimes you just need wmp10 to do the job, like wmv streaming. I'm not sure TCPMP support that.
But of course wmp10 can go full screen if the original video size is bigger than 640x480.

I find that WMP gives better sound quality (and slightly more volume) than TCPMP when listening through headphones.
Good as TCPMP is, if WMP would play videos properly I would uninstall TCPMP and use the space for something else instead. Is anyone looking at a hack to get WMP working properly?
Rowan

jerome923 said:
Agree with JoseF.
But of course wmp10 can go full screen if the original video size is bigger than 640x480.
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In other words WMP is working fine with videos over 640x480 - thats good news - will try it later.
Matt

FULLSCREEN VIDS not postage stamp fullscreen please!!!

yes, yes, yes, i know every newbie gets told to search. i tried but this seems like a heck of a site with tonnes of posts.
In short could anyone kindly point me to a post or answer the que:
How do i get my videos to play on actual FULLSCREEN and not postage stamp fullscreen.
is there an option or is it small because of the limited processing power?
Cheers
Mark

If u wanna play them with the default WM player then upgrade to the AKU 3.2 version ROM or else try TCPMP player it's free and good enough for all ur multimedia player needs.

Thanks bud. i tried a few vids on the wmp player first and luckily one of them actually played on the FULLSCREEN. the vid had a much larger data transfer rate.
So is there any way to modify the files i have so that they have the same arrangement as this particular file.
Anyone had the same problem
Cheers
Mark

I'd really recommend installing TCPMP. The standard media player is pretty crappy (just like Windows Media Player, I guess). TCPMP is free and plays all videos in Fullscreen if you want. If also supports a lot more codecs than the standard player.

WMP that comes with the phone will not show a video to be any larger than it actually is. If a video is 64x64 pixels then it will occupy that much on the screen. It will however crush a 640x480 video to fit your 320x240 screen.
TCPMP WILL stretch videos to fill your screen. Get that!!
There is no way to edit the file like you suggested without making the file size much greater needlessly.

If I use the camera video capture function, it always plays in reduced size, even using the new ubeaut 3.2 ROMs. These ROMs have not fixed the full size video issue for videos captured in 320x240 using mp4 format.
Unless, of course, somebody can tell me where to look and the settings. I have been using AKU3.2 for a while both versions, and they do not play the video capture in full screen mode at all.
Maybe if I use AVI formats rather than MP4 might be an idea I havent tried. MP4 is a much more compressed format.

hey thanks for the help - cheers
guys, i just needed the reassurance that it was ok. i just downloaded it and as u say its a great full screen player - thanks again.

simon_darley said:
Maybe if I use AVI formats rather than MP4 might be an idea I havent tried. MP4 is a much more compressed format.
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U r right as avi will take much of ur memory so thats not practical to use.

Smooth video viewing possible? (h2.64)

Heya folks, i am wondering if it is possible on TCPMP to view a hi res video smoothly, i first got the H2.64 format invalid error but shortly after fixed that with the TCPMP ffmpeg addon but now the video i want to watch doesnt run smoothly,
anyone have any ideas how to set it up and if so if they are willing to provide the presets
Cheers everyone
exemike
Sorry title error, i meant to say H.264 =)

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i dont think that will work, i tried a h.264 video on my exe aswell and it was just as slow.
maybe i need to convert the video

exemike said:
maybe i need to convert the video
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That's exactly what you should do.
I use a nice freeware conversion tool for WinXP called SUPER, which converts videos to a specific compression of AVI that's optimized for Pocket PC. Just select "AVI (for Pocket PC)" as the output container, and bob's your uncle. Works great: is formatted to fit the screen correctly, and goes into full screen mode flawlessly. You can even strip the audio tracks from strictly visual media (your p*rn, for example...)
Now, sure, you're going to lose some resolution, but you had to know that was going to happen anyways viewing it on a 320x240px screen, right?
Download SUPER

YES
Myrddin Wyllt said:
That's exactly what you should do.
I use a nice freeware conversion tool for WinXP called SUPER, which converts videos to a specific compression of AVI that's optimized for Pocket PC. Just select "AVI (for Pocket PC)" as the output container, and bob's your uncle. Works great: is formatted to fit the screen correctly, and goes into full screen mode flawlessly. You can even strip the audio tracks from strictly visual media (your p*rn, for example...)
Now, sure, you're going to lose some resolution, but you had to know that was going to happen anyways viewing it on a 320x240px screen, right?
Download SUPER
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Yep the super converter is SUUUUPER!!!! i use it too... and can recomend to you the AVI format our devices can view smothly without overclock a video at lest 230 mbps.

thank you very much guys, I really am enjoying this wizard very much and having it play videos just makes it so much better
now I just have to read the big book on how to upgrade to wm6
thanks again guys,
exemike

Youre welcome men
Be sure to read evrything!!!! and ask somuch more ok?
Its our pleassure to give you the needed info about what you will do.

hehe thanks q will bear that in mind and be sure that I will have lots of questions, after all like I said for a device growing in age it really is brilliant.

The Guide
Well people you have all read the threads so i thought i would translate everything to one simple guide.
First of all, this should hopefully work for most Htc's out there (from what i've read and understand anyway)
Second First of all
You should download the program (Freeware) TCPMP, which can be downloaded at the provided link.
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/
Personally i downloaded the 0.72RC1 but any of the versions should work farely well.
Secondly you should take the time to download some of the additional plugins for the player, commonly for the program we will be using, the ffmpeg plugin i think is suggested but also the avc and aac video and audio codecs from another site i have provided.
Aditional Plugins
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/
This is the AVC and AAC codecs, commonly used for H.264 videos, although the wizard struggles with really high quality videos sometimes may be worth overclocking to get the performance you want
http://www.box.net/public/gk97uv7x1o
Addons worth having for sure though
Next you will need to download a program, yes another magnificent piece of freeware known as Super
http://www.erightsoft.info/GetFile.php?SUPERsetup.exe
When the installation is complete, run it, install it, and open it up, from there
When you run the program for the first time, one main menu will setup, the base of the program, now im sure on first sight its like lots of new buttons to press, well its not really that, all you need to do is set where you see (1) and the formats for the output container, just selec avi for Pocket pc, immediately, pocket pc res and settings are loaded.
The settings i am using for my MDA Vario (HTC Wizard) are 320:240 video scale, 4:3 aspect, 25fps, a bitrate of 128 and hi quality + 48k audio for the video options,
for audio i am using a frequency of 22050, 2 channel, 48kbps bitrate and default dvd language select.
further towards the bottom of super you will see what looks to be an input box, anywhere within the white area right click and select add media, add your video (any video you like) and hit ok, the file should input itself, and there should be a checkbox under the active colum, tick it and then further down the program hit encode, wallah, your video should encode perfectly for your wizard, heck you can try other presets to differ your performance.
Open the vid in TCPMP and it should happily play.
For youtube videos etc, there are altho online + downloadable programs to convert to different programs for youtube directly.
http://www.vixy.net/
This is the program with the installable converter, it is freeware but expires every so many months, but its always put back up for download again, dont know why they do that really but it is a good program.
Another program which is reliable online and has lots of options is
http://mediaconverter.org/
Hope this guide helps newcommers someone.
Thanks to Q and Myrd for the information =)

Sweet
I use Lathe 1.5, been using it for almost 2yrs
Works great

exemike said:
The settings i am using for my MDA Vario (HTC Wizard) are 320:240 video scale, 4:3 aspect, 25fps, a bitrate of 128 and hi quality + 48k audio for the video options,
for audio i am using a frequency of 22050, 2 channel, 48kbps bitrate and default dvd language select.
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One more thing would help me pretty much. Could you add which video (h.264 / h.263 / h.262 / xvid / mpeg4 / msmpeg4 / ...) and audio (mp3 / aac / wma / ...) codecs you're using?