Hi,
i've googled around but haven't been able to solve this problem: every time i connect my magician to the usb port in my PC, it starts synching and charging at the same time. I know this is correct behaviour since USB ports are able to supply power to connected devices.
Anyway, i'd like to know if there's the possibility to avoid charging from the USB port (while retaining, of course, synching capability).
I need this hack 'cos i often connect my magician to the pc only for the time needed to sync my contacts/appointments (just a few seconds/minutes) or to install some small programs and i fear that recharging the battery for so a short time and 5-10 times a day may reduce its capacity or even destroy it.
I'd like to sync my magician without recharging its battery, do you thing it is possible? Is there a registry hack (either in ppc or in winxp) to disable USB power supplying? Do i need to manually hack my USB cable by cutting out the red and white power wires?
Thanks for your help,
bye bye,
Isidoro
You really have nothing to worry about. Lithium rechargeable batteries do not mind having small frequent top ups.
Ni-Cads on the other hand, yes they would be ruined.
Your phone uses a Lithium battery so as I said, no need to worry. :wink:
If you really wanted to, you could build a custom USB cable which does not carry the power, by omitting the GND and +5V pins (the first and the last pin of the usb connector).
This is not really needed, because modern batteries don't get damaged by multiple recharges...
iDG said:
If you really wanted to, you could build a custom USB cable which does not carry the power, by omitting the GND and +5V pins (the first and the last pin of the usb connector).
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I tried it but it didn't work: the phone doesn't charge, ok, but it doesn't' sync too!!! Winxp doesn't see it.
Maybe i should keep ground wire?!? Mah!
This is not really needed, because modern batteries don't get damaged by multiple recharges...
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I know, i know, but i would definitely feel more safe if i could sync without charge.
Anyway, thank u all,
Isidoro
Use bluettoth to sync the device with pc, your problem will be solved.
All 4 wires are required for usb to work.
Removing any of them will prevent USB operating.
As stated, it doesnt matter about the top up charging, dont worry.
Disable charging
Disable USB charging
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\usbfndrv
and change the
EnableUsbCharging to '0'
then
soft reset
I'd like to try this on my Ameo. How do I use the REG files contained in the ZIP file? I am using the Ameo to connect my laptop to the Internet. It works great over a USB cable but I cannot get it to work with Bluetooth. I am concerned about constant short recharges. Is there a special folder to put the REG files into? How do I make the Ameo read the values before doing a soft reset?
Thanks
Bob
Hi
I'd like to try your solution with editing registry on my T Mobile Ameo. Could you tell me wwhat I need to do with the REG files. Is there a special folder to put them in? How do I invoke the setting before doing a soft reste ?
Thanks
Bob
@pedjajovicevic : my magician does not have this registry key
I searched for that key you wrote,
but this key doesn't exist on my (german) magician.
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\usbfndrv
Under BuiltIn there are many subkeys, but no usbfndrv, i searched the complete Builtin key but no key you wrote.
Can you tell me, where I maybe can create this key. Would it work ???
OK, i will try, but i don't know when. Two childs hold me away from my notebook
Are those registry files executed from the phone or the PC?
on your device.
but it won't work - there are no ways disable usb chargin in Magician via regsitry.
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Alright so I've done quite a bit of searching but I can't figure this out and its really frustrating me. I have mfrazz's Windows Mobile 6 release 3 installed.
Rom version: 10.1.0.811 WWE
Rom Date: 8/11/06
Radio Version: 02.25.11
Protocol Version 4.1.13.12
My problem is that activesync will not recognize my MDA no matter what I do. I've hard reset my phone, installed and uninstalled activesync 4.5 a bunch of times. Done this on two different computers, but when I plug the mda in, nothing happens at all. I plug my roomate's MDA in (running a different rom) and it instantly recognizes the phone and begins to sync. I really want to try different roms out, but without an activesync connection I can't. Any ideas guys?
Thanks...
ps. Let me know if this should be in the WM6 forum, I wasn't sure.
Well,this problem has been discussed hundreds of time in the forum,just read through the forum,I'm sure you'll find answer to your problem easily,there was no need to start a new thread,or just hit the 'Search' tab at the top of this very page and enter 'Activesync Problems'.
Cheers!
Thanks for the feedback-
It seems like I've read every single thread related to this problem, but in almost all of those their phone is at least recognized by activesync. With mine, even after disabling all firewalls and doing all the suggestions in the other threads, I just can't get activesync to even recognize my phone
If you still can't sync at someone else's computer, you probably have a bad USB cable, or worse, a bad connector. Try a different cable (any USB to micro should work, they aren't specially wired or anything). If that's no help, try blowing out the connector jack on the phone (use a magnifying glass or ? to look for debris, too). If that's no help, you may be screwed. You can try these guys, but it'll be expensive (like, replace my phone expensive): http://www.drcellphone.com/index.php
Are you at least getting a charge light (solid amber) when you plug in?
Yea, it charges just fine and I get the solid amber light and everything. I use the same cable to sync my roomates' mda, so that isn't the issue. I'm really stumped. Im almost positive its something with the specific rom I have on my phone..
I've been forcing it into bootloader mode to try to flash any other rom onto it (I figure if i can just get ANY rom on it... official tmobile, or a cooked rom, etc. then the sync problem should go away) but I'm having troubles there too.
You're not trying to do this with a Vista computer, are you? There are known problems syncing with Vista-based PCs.
If you use Mozilla Thunderbird at all, you can try using FinchSync, just to see if the hardware is functioning properly. This is theoretical, though. I haven't tried this myself, so I can't offer much on FinchSync.
Nope, I first tried it with 3 different XP computers and then for the hell of it tried it with Vista. No go with either one. I've pretty much convinced myself that it is the rom I have on my phone (mfrazz's Windows Mobile 6 release 4) because I never used to have any problems whatsoever
mmj12345
OK, let's take stock of things. I'm assuming that you are using XP.
Check in activesync :
File -> Connection Settings
Make sure "Allow USB connections" is checked.
'Uncheck' the 'advanced network functionality' in the phone.
Start -> Settings -> Connections tab -> USB to PC
If that still doesn't work, I'd try the uninstall, reboot, reinstall activesync and see if that helps any.
I'd also be suspecting the usb cable/ mini usb port of the phone. Recharging a device and getting a data connection are two different things. I have a k-jam that would charge via the USB cable, but would not sync, XP kept complaining about an unknown device. Turned out it was a broken connector in the mini usb port of the phone.It maybe that usb cable connector is not making proper connection with the connector of mini usb port of the phone,try to 'wriggle' the usb cable plug a little and check if it tries to make a connection, while connecting to the phone,sometimes it helps.
Cheers!
I've made sure everything you suggested is correct. I didn't know that charging and data connection are two different things. I figure that if it charges, it should sync. The USB port on my MDA is really loose, and I can only get a charge when I plug in the charger and "push" the plug to the right an hold it there (usually by twisting the cord around the phone in a way that keeps the pressure on the USB socket). So now that you mention that, I'm just guessing that it charges but its so loose that I probably won't ever get it to sync again.
Hmm..
Is there any way at all to flash without an activesync connection? I tried flashing a bunch of roms by forcing the phone into bootloader and then running the RUU, but it always fails because it says I don't have an activesync connection...
Nopes !
You got to have connection with phone through usb cable.Get the mini usb port of the phone repaired or replaced,only then it can establish connection and flash a rom.
Cheers!
Alright, thanks a lot for all of your help! Looks like maybe I'll take the phone apart and see if I can actually see any disconnection on the main board, etc. Not sure if I'll try to make a repair attempt myself because I've read that the solder contact points are pretty small
Hi, my activesync doesn't work, but it is charging...
i tried other USBs and i tried different PCs and same thing happens..
tried to take off the advanced network functionality...
Does anyone have a solution to that? please please help me im begging
Thanks alot in advanced!
anyone???? pleasee??????
go to active sync on the Hermes and delete the old profile. This may work...
Cheers...
tried.. doesnt work.. plus it didnt even work the past couple of roms that i had... i think since i upgraded it from wm6 to wm6.1 i started getting this issue..
any solution????
if trying to connect it to another computer dont work
i would suspect a faulty connector
so how is it possible that its charging??
To charge, all it needs is for the pins carrying voltage to get a connection. (All USB has a 5v current at 500mA, it just uses that to charge).
It could be that one of the data pins used by USB solely for transferring data are damaged or broken (or the connector is broken internally). This is almost impossible to diagnose without the correct tools, so I'm guessing here.
However, my Hermes' USB port has started to 'act up' - it still charges fine, but you have to have the USB cable at juuuust the right angle and you can't move it or touch it at all, otherwise the USB connection disconnects. I suspect either oxidisation on the terminals or a dodgy USB connector - but as long as it charges alright, I can live with that!
you could try cleaning the contacts with a cotton bud and some isopropyl alcohol (surgical spirits - NOT METHO). If there is any buildup on your contacts this will fix it.
Cheers....
Mine has done this many times before, the bloody pc rejects the usb device as unknown. [email protected] frustrating, I go in and delete all stored data about the phone and same on the PC in Active sync, some times works. Try different cables, sounds weird but some work well some are no good, dunn'o why, just does. I would perform a Hard Reset, I have done this once and it fixed it, blows away all your stuff (which should be on your 2Gb min mem card anyway). Good luck, sounds like a Hard Reset is where your headed.
is it possible that its not working since i switched to WM6.1? cuz i dont usually charge my phone through the pc and i just relized it a month ago... so if i switch back to wm6 do you think it would work??
Try this
Try and going to ur Start Menu,and then into Settings,go into the last tab "Connections", now go into the little icon titled USB to PC,and make sure the little box is UNCHECKED...well now that should do the trick
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Try and going to ur Start Menu,and then into Settings,go into the last tab "Connections", now go into the little icon titled USB to PC,and make sure the little box is UNCHECKED...well now that should do the trick
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if you would read the first post... where i actually asked the question u would see that i tried that already
but tnx for trying
my 8525 does this from time to time as well, while I've never traced down the exact problem, a soft-reset almost always fixes it (I'm not saying you haven't soft-reset, it's just how I fix mine).
It likely has something to do with memory, as it usually happens after I've been using a lot of features (windows live search, outlook, etc.) and haven't reset in several days.
good luck....it is frustrating!
u did not described what it actualy does if you connect it to the pc and what rom are u using
the common problems with wm6.1
uncheck the advanced usb disconnect from pc restart pc
go to active sync on ppc seting - connection uncheck box (allways) check box open `usb close `usb ok reconnect ppc
the wording might be different cause im using right now diff. language
I just tried to plug my phone in today, and activesync does not detect my phone when I plug it in.... Activesync usually works great for me.
So far I have tried:
1. soft reset phone
2. attach wife's phone - still no sync (this leads me to believe it is a problem on the PC - not the phone)
3. remove and re-install activesync on the pc
4. restart the PC
The USB connection is definitely being made - as when I plug the phone into the computer it starts charging the battery..... but no activesync session is initiated, so I can't modify any files on my phone....
any other ideas?
Hmm that is bad... Well what do you use activesync for? Transferring files or for internet sharing?
All I can think of is maybe a virus? Run avast! virus cleaner. It's the stand alone virus cleaner not the actual anti-virus program. It won't install anything on your pc and it's actually one of the best. Just go to Avast.com.
If you use activesync for internet sharing you actually don't need it . I don't use it for internet sharing. You just need the drivers. I use wm5torage to put stuff of my memory card.
Hope something I wrote helped.
Uncheck start>settings>connections>usb to pc.
never mind........ I guess my data cable just went retarded.
I bought a new USB>MiniUSB cable today and activesync loads right up.
strange, since the original cable does not look like it is damaged at all, and can still charge the phone.
Oh well - all's well that ends well. lol.
zaep0b said:
never mind........ I guess my data cable just went retarded.
I bought a new USB>MiniUSB cable today and activesync loads right up.
strange, since the original cable does not look like it is damaged at all, and can still charge the phone.
Oh well - all's well that ends well. lol.
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i bit late to the party,me ,but this is a comon problem in certain devices,so far i changed 4 cables with my hermes.
oh well. good to know anyway.
I work as a manager at a retail store, and found a couple of PSP data cables (the exact same cable that HTC phones use, surprisingly) that were in the back room which clearanced to 10 cents.... I bought them out - so I have a TON of backup cables in case I ever need them. LOL
the problem is not the usb cable per say but the usb hub in the device.
the new htc hub since the Hermes have a low threshold for wear, the pins that is, so when your usb cable gets used for awhile it wears out a bit also,this gets to a certain stage the the pins no longer touch each other therefore this problem occurs .
i have noticed that my wife 3 year old wizard has a standard usb plug and we never had any problem with any cables,even using the cables that do not work in the hemes that started showing that problem after 6 months of usage.
yeah - well maybe I'll be lucky and the cables I bought (from the PSP) don't have this wear and tear problem
Thanks to all great developers from here, i've already saw a lot of amazing softwares and use some of them.
I was wondering if it's possible when we connect the phone to USB, the phone shows the normal popup asking if we want activesync or USB storage, but with another option that is "Charge battery".
It would be great because i use a lot of computers and i don't want it to sync neither to be a usb storage.
Thank you all..
PS: Sorry for my bad english
neives said:
Thanks to all great developers from here, i've already saw a lot of amazing softwares and use some of them.
I was wondering if it's possible when we connect the phone to USB, the phone shows the normal popup asking if we want activesync or USB storage, but with another option that is "Charge battery".
It would be great because i use a lot of computers and i don't want it to sync neither to be a usb storage.
Thank you all..
PS: Sorry for my bad english
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I second this, Im using a lot of different working PCs, also outside the country, so only charging without syncing, sharing internet or mass storage would be a great thing!!!
If you use a standard mini usb connector as opposed to the HTC one, it should only charge the phone. Works for me.
HoTaCe said:
If you use a standard mini usb connector as opposed to the HTC one, it should only charge the phone. Works for me.
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Even standard mini-usb leads use all the pins. You want a usb cable that only has the middle two pins, buy a cheap one, use a pencil or tweezers and pull out the outer pins and you'll have a power only cable, easy.
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Even standard mini-usb leads use all the pins. You want a usb cable that only has the middle two pins, buy a cheap one, use a pencil or tweezers and pull out the outer pins and you'll have a power only cable, easy.
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That's not an option for me because sometimes i want to charge and other times i want to use as usb storage.
And i also have a cradle and i'll NOT remove pins
I've already seen here a diferent popup with an option to use phone as modem, so i think this shouldn't be difficult.
Thank you
Just select internet connection sharing..
that way it won't sync..
Just turn it off!
An easy way to prevent the diamond from connecting to the pc but still charging it via usb cable is to just press the power button and put it to sleep.
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An easy way to prevent the diamond from connecting to the pc but still charging it via usb cable is to just press the power button and put it to sleep.
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Iam using that method ..
my method
i use bluetooth to sync and have disabled 'allow usb connections' in activesync so that it charges ONLY via cable.
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An easy way to prevent the diamond from connecting to the pc but still charging it via usb cable is to just press the power button and put it to sleep.
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That's another point, i don't want put it to sleep.
The perfect solution for me is an option to put it to charge, because i don't want to desiblr activesync because i use it on my computer, and don't want to put it to sleep, because i want to use it.
Thank you.
bumping because I second (er, third) this notion. I don't mind putting it to sleep, but I work in a flaky reception area so my damn phone is always waking up on its own. And everytime it does, guess what pops up? Yeah, annoying.
Who's the ninja that added that connect as modem feature? I have that installed and love it. Maybe if we all ask nice he/she will add a "Connect to Charge" option...
i use to chose "Mass storage" when i dont want to activsync
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i use to chose "Mass storage" when i dont want to activsync
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Yes, thank you for your input...
Now what we are looking for is an option to...
...don't sync...
...don't use Internal Storage as a disk drive...
...don't share internet connection...
...when connecting the device with a usb-cable to a PC.
We just want it to charge the battery, nothing else.
Because we don't want this to be permanent and we don't want to lose functionality by...
...switching off the device...
...disabling active sync on the pc...
...pulling pins from a cable...
...we are asking for a fourth option in the USB to PC menu.
And while we're at it:
I would like a shortcut to te USB to PC menu too, because I like to switch a lot. Anyone?
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Yes, thank you for your input...
Now what we are looking for is an option to...
...don't sync...
...don't use Internal Storage as a disk drive...
...don't share internet connection...
...when connecting the device with a usb-cable to a PC.
We just want it to charge the battery, nothing else.
Because we don't want this to be permanent and we don't want to lose functionality by...
...switching off the device...
...disabling active sync on the pc...
...pulling pins from a cable...
...we are asking for a fourth option in the USB to PC menu.
And while we're at it:
I would like a shortcut to te USB to PC menu too, because I like to switch a lot. Anyone?
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yea it would be great if someone can create a 4th option for us to be able to select "Charge Only" how perfect is that?
I'm not sure what you're really asking for, but i use an old small program called kill active sync. It still works for the latest activesyncs on XP. You can google for a few more versions. This will let you charge without having sync pop up annoyingly.
WM5
you could also enable this tool, so you PPC will be acknowledged as an USB Storage device. So you can USE all funktions except files form your storage card. It charges without sync.
http://freewareppc.com/communication/wm5torage.shtml
ecor said:
you could also enable this tool, so you PPC will be acknowledged as an USB Storage device. So you can USE all funktions except files form your storage card. It charges without sync.
http://freewareppc.com/communication/wm5torage.shtml
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HexiumVII said:
I'm not sure what you're really asking for, but i use an old small program called kill active sync. It still works for the latest activesyncs on XP. You can google for a few more versions. This will let you charge without having sync pop up annoyingly.
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Please read this post.
Antimus said:
Even standard mini-usb leads use all the pins. You want a usb cable that only has the middle two pins, buy a cheap one, use a pencil or tweezers and pull out the outer pins and you'll have a power only cable, easy.
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I think you got the usb pinout wrong there, the inner two pins are the data and the outer two are the power supply.
It would also be sufficient to only remove one pin.
And the Idea of charge only would be very useful and is a good idea, I imagine it could also be accomplished from the PC side.
Funny Thread, isn't it?
People just don't read.....
I second the idea of rvdgeer because i'm used to charge my diamond via car radio usb port and have some trouble with this. I cannot put it to mass storage because i need access to it to get tomtom working.
So i regularly use the modem option.
But the only purpose of this thread is to find an answer if, or if not possible to add a 4th setting to usb connection popup which is "charge only"
Maybe the developers/chefs can answer this question or somebody has a serious idea how to get this function
Thx for all the other ideas, but the best would be a 4th popup option
Maybe it's different on the Diamond from the Touch Pro, but on the PC if you Right Click the ActiveSync icon in the tasks bar (next to the clock) select Connection Settings then uncheck the box labeled Allow USB Connections. It continues to charge the phone without using anything else.
I don't know if this is known already, but I thought I'd share.
I recently (rather stupidly) bought the wrong type of micro-USB cable, the one with the completely rectangular profile on the micro end. Not wanting to throw it away, I decided to file the corners down so it would fit.
I confirmed the pin-outs were the same, at the site below
http://www.leadsdirect.co.uk/technical/usbwiring.html
The only difference being that there was an identifying pin that was either unconnected, or connected to ground.
When I plugged the cable in, it automatically took me to Navipanel!! I was going to use it in the car anyway, so all in all, very useful!!
ALSO
Just discovered it does not appear to allow data transfer, as the phone does not show up in Windows when connected up with this cable.
I can confirm that if you connect a 'Motorola Mini-USB to Micro USB convertor' to the socket then you will also get the NaviPanel. Not sure if it is a good thing though because it annoys the hell out of me, not being able to access my Emails etc very easily. Of course I would not be driving at the same time as playing with the phone anyway.
Same happens when you just plug-in in the hd2 a microusb-to-female-usb adaptor (ment for nokia n85?) which i had bought to test (without success) some usb-host drivers mentioned somewhere in this forum.
I can add that it is possible to disable navipanel autostart (i did it but don't recall now exactly were among settings) and after that (obviously in my case using an additional usb/microusb adapter) the connection is fully functional as an usual cable.
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I can confirm that if you connect a 'Motorola Mini-USB to Micro USB convertor' to the socket then you will also get the NaviPanel. Not sure if it is a good thing though because it annoys the hell out of me, not being able to access my Emails etc very easily. Of course I would not be driving at the same time as playing with the phone anyway.
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I have the same motorola conventor and the same problem. I just tried other charger and navipanel doesn't start.
so, if i read you all correctly, to activate navipanel electronically, ground pin 4 (not usually used)?
navipanel blues
does anyone know how to completely cauterise navipanel...? when using my hd2 as a usb drive the lead (as supplied with the phone!) makes the unit think its in the car.... zzz and vice versa