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Internet via bluetooth

Hey Guys,
I'm new to the PPC,where i just bought a K-Jam and installed activesync 4.1 on my laptop (winxp sp2).
i have also a bluetooth dongle (MSI) and it seems to be working fine with me, i can connect my kjam to the laptop to syncronize my data.
now when it comes to using the internet via my laptop, i'm lost
i've been reading all threats which confused me when setting up the connection and i'm still not able to work it.
please if anyone can help me step by step , i'll be thankfull
thanx in advance.

I have noted by Bluetooth experiences with connecting my Xda Exec to my Home PC internet connection. It took me over a weeks worth of shouting & frustration to get this working as I ended up falling down every pitfall you could fall down! :evil:
Anyway, take a look here:
http://www.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?=42488
GL
Andy

all you need to do is discover your device and connect to the dial-up networking connection.....
once that's done it's just a matter of getting the correct phone number, username and password (if applicable).
In the US for T-Mobile the phone number is *99# and there is no user name or password.

dear underwurld
thinks for your fast response and for trying to help, not sure if the link is working at the moment , i've tried to open it several times.
lvlolvlo,
i donot think it can be that easy, i came across alot of threats were all about the activesync and ports and network connections , what made it more complicated.
any help..?

Oops sorry about that....
Missed a bloody 't' out try again:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42488
@lvlolvlo... DUN connection via TMobile.... erm I didn't go anywhere near that
:shock:
@freeway
i donot think it can be that easy, i came across alot of threads were all about the ActiveSync and ports and network connections , what made it more complicated.
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EXACTLY: Nail. Head. Hammer!
This is EXACTLY what my thread explains - I have combined & condensed so much **** you wouldn't believe.
Andy

Dear Underwurl,
i would like to thank u for these amazing information and references , however ( to tell u the truth) it is still confusing to me..
i thouhgt there might be any guidelines where i could go through steps
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2-
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and so on...
i think i have no problem connecting my device to the laptop ( not through the dialup thing but through the activesync 4.1 and it says connected in both)
also all reference were talking about incoming ports and outgoings ones which doesnot exist in activesync4.2 ( i know it might exist on 3.8 ver)
1- if it is somehow connected to the activesync, are there anything to be configured for the proxy server , and how ( i'm using my office lan)??
2- when it says connected i try to open IE but all i get is page is under construction...what does that mean???
3- is it something related to the bluetooth (msi) driver or ghosted ports??
u c....i'm going randomly considering all these thoughts, which is confusing me alot...
will appreciate any help...

OK....
So, just to be clear:
Have you installed those nice WICOMM Bluetooth services installed on your PC?
Andy
PS
Do you have WiFi in your office???? Bin Bluetooth if you have!!!!!!!

yes, I installed the BT software that came with my BT dongle
it shows widcomm in my driver data
and no idonot have wifi in my office
what do u think?

while connected with my laptop via activesync, i checked the tcp/ip setting with pocket mechanic, it is showing a different ip address than the one in my laptop connection (LAN connection),
but showing a correct host name
and it says " Local area networks cannot directly communicate across wide area networks because they are defind by a private class of ip's"
any idea?????
when i open internet explorer on my kjam it says "page not found"

is it that difficult for you guys,
no one have gone through this before??

Using my XDA2i as a modem to connect my laptop to internet

Hi
I want to use my XDA2i to connect my laptop to the net....
Any ideas how to achieve this, thinking bluetooth laptop to XDA then use GPRS on XDA to connect.
Thanks

Hi,
Look overhere ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]/USB_modem/ for modem driver & documentation.
Cheers, M

Hi
Thanks for the reply, however, I want to connect my laptop through bluetooth to my XDA and use the GPRS on my XDA to connect to the net.
I need to achieve this without using a USB connection, if I understand correctly the link you supplied tells me how to connect USB modem etc.
Maybe I'm completely misunderstanding. It's all so simple using a Nokia 6230i, plug and play virtually!! (until my company deactivated data calls:-()
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

Set the Connection Type to Bluetooth in the Wireless Modem program, then push the start button & make the BT connection to your laptop. Hope it works this way or experiment a little with it pls. I use the USB connection & don't have BT on my PC, so can't try the settings myself.
Regards, M

As I assume that you're using Windows vom Micro$oft, just Pair the two devices (not using 'Wireless Modem').
It will automatically install a Bluetooth-Modem
David

Hi
What type of connection do I need, I can only find a network access connection to my laptop, thats all that is available.
I am using a HP laptop with XP home, its a new one so would imagine everything is in order.

seek and you shall find
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24383

Thanks for the replies people...
Although I have to admit I'm struggling still....given up on the bluetooth connection and reverted back to USB cable but still I can't connect.
Here's the steps I have used:
Unticked Active Sync allowing USB connections.
Restarted laptop, connected USB cable to XDA and selected Wireless Modem, used the drop down to select USB and selected Start.....
the documentation etlls me that my laptop will go into a plug and play routine of allowing me to install it as a modem but this does not happen.
And yes, I have admin rights on the laptop.
Do I have to do anything with connections/modems because I haven't.
Am I being thick? Not sure but it's driving me to distraction...

start the modem program on your XDA (Start-Programs) and conenct it, windows will ask for a driver. install the driver from ftp. then create a new modem connection in windows. here (in germany) the number windows must call is *99# (for GPRS/UMTS)

Thank you for your patience...
The XDA installed as stated using driver on FTP, great.
Run up IE, tools, options, connections and added a dial up connection called XDA USB Link.(com8)
Settings of which are:
user name2web
passwordassword
untick automatically detect settings
untick configuration script
untick proxy server
Not sure where I'm going wrong but when I dial it errors with...No dial tone detected.
To recap I am dialing with GPRS connected on XDA and the WModem program connected through USB started
Am I missing something?

Can anyone help??????
Please?????

Try running usbmodemdialer instead of DUN by IE, it's in the package on the ftp.
Cheers, M

Hi
OK, I am now using the HTC USB dialer but I'm receiving an error 734 code, which is a PPP issue.
To recap, I am starting Wmodem, connecting to laptop (GPRS off) using a USB cable. Starting HTC USB Modem with APN as Internet & modem as HTC USB modem.
On XDA I get a connection light, then send and receive lights flash before the lot dissapear. The laptop goes through Connecting/verifying/registering then Remote access error 734.
I'm nearly there...
Please excuse my ignorance on this subject :roll:
Thanks

Yeah seems like it again :--(
Upload is running to ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/
Regards, M

Hi
Ive done everything as suggested but I'm getting a 680 error, this I believe is a "no dial tone" error.
Please, where am I going wrong?
Thanks
Gary

Frankly I haven't got the slightest idea what's going wrong. It works like a charm with my magician & Windows XP Sp2.
M

Hm how could the line be busy? are you phoning the same time? (always when you try to connect? sorry silly question.)
Are you sure your provider give you GPRS Access? (i don't know any who don't )
did you a google search on this error?

Hi
Yes, I googled it and it appears to be "No dial tone" not line busy....I'm not in a call when attempting to connect.
I've tried every possible combination of settings......usernames and passwords etc....
There isn't any issues with my laptop and updates etc. I am sys admin by day!!! This is just beating the hell out of me. Incidentally my laptop is a HP pavillion zd8369ea, a new one!!! Alpine is running radio 1.04.
Yes, data calls are enabled on my SIM, I can connect perfectly to IE on XDA and mail etc.
Taken down all firewalls etc and nothing....
Help
Thanks
Gary

Follow the instructions here:
http://www.seeo2.com/html/HowToUse/XdaII/How to setup Wireless Modem for Bluetooth.htm
At part 5. the line you need is:
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","mobile.o2.co.uk","",0,0
At point 11. you don't need a user name or password.

How to use GPRS Internet on Laptop

How can you use GPRS Internet from your O2 Exec/JASJAR on Laptop/Desktop computer?
I am guessing there should be a way through the wireless modem. Any ideas guys?

Activate the wireless modem, install the device as a modem on the computer.
Dial *99# with the computer..

Hi all
I just avtivated by wireless modem through similarly named app on Exec.
Then on laptop dialed *99# and all was looking well until Win XP laptop said registering computer on the network.
Then error message on Laptop said device wasn't functioning.
Whilst it was trying though the coloured lights on the wireless modem(exec) app were flashing away like merry.
That was entertaining enough but any clues as to where I'm going wrong?
Using a bluetooth dongle with IVT soleil on laptop.
Which works for activesync and headset.
Have stopped activesync on exec in order to get this far.
Phil

You have to install USB modem drivers for your Exec on your XP desktop. I don't know if the modem will work through bluetooth. I use USBmodem drivers with my Vario and it works perfectly. I don't know if you need to use different drivers for your Exec, but I will attach the ones that work with the Vario.

fillippe said:
Then error message on Laptop said device wasn't functioning.
Phil
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Try a soft reset (that worked setting up a mate's Universal with the same error), sounds like you have the modem installed and everything else set up.
Btw when his couldn't connect with that error, it couldnt connect to the network when not functioning as a modem anyway.

thank you for the modem driver for Universal! I really looking for it :wink:

this is about the best walkthrough i have ever read. so Koksie thanks if you wrote this....
anybody got any ideas when this error comes up when i go to start "4- Then in Programs, click on "Wireless Modem". With the Connection type on USB, click on "Start". " and i click start thie error "ERROR .... COME OPEN ERROR"
any ideas what that means?!
Jay

I did not write it myself, just found it and passed it on because it worked perfectly for me. I have no idea why it gives the error you mention. I think the walk through was found on this forum, perhaps try to find the thread and ask the question there? The person who posted this originally might perhaps know the answer. good luck!

I've tried this loads of times all I get is a COM OPEN ERROR on the XDA.. it did work once briefly then wont work again..

I've tried this loads of times all I get is a COM OPEN ERROR on the XDA.. it did work once briefly then wont work again..

I had the same problem. In bluetooth settings delete all the outgoings port that you created. In my case it was port 8 for gprs....Now works¡¡

well thanks for the help.. lol although that doesn't sound to promising maybe i will take it back to o2?
arhh just saw dherrero's reply i may try thatl
jay

hey hey! great thanks for that works brillantly. now i just need to test my tomtom to see if he can stil connect to my GPS device:

Update
Koksie and Kevino most helpful.
I gave up on Bluetooth and got me USB cable out.
The USB modem connects and works well now.
I am not sure the "receive all incoming beams" tick is neccessary?
For O2 customers I found this which was quite useful for the USB Modem Connections settings on the Laptop/PC.
http://flash.o2.co.uk/productsservices/mobileweb/pdfs/Windows manual set up instructions.pdf
BTW I can connect for my emails but have to setup a new Email Account in Outlook to send using the O2 smtp server (smtp.o2.co.uk).
However I still can not get Internet Explorer to be able to browse on this GPRS connection, any ideas?

Re: Update
fillippe said:
BTW I can connect for my emails but have to setup a new Email Account in Outlook to send using the O2 smtp server (smtp.o2.co.uk).
However I still can not get Internet Explorer to be able to browse on this GPRS connection, any ideas?
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Well m8...as you bring this up...
If anyone can shed some light on this it would be great.
It seems to me tat this problem is only with o2 :?
I have also tried in the passed to make phones work with laptops an tomtom go's etc for the gprs connection usage and had no joy.... at first i thought it was the phones...tested with Nokias 6310i, 6230, 6230i, SE t630, w800, w900i, etc all running the latest firmware and 02 active settings and always connection errors.
In the meantime ALL the other networks like voda, t-mobile, orange etc work like a charm on the same setups.
:?: :?:
BR

tytn as a laptop modem?

hows the conection done? hopefully usb?
what setting / software are needed on the lappy and tytn?
if at all it can be done?

You can do it through USB, Bluetooth or IrDA.
These instructions are for universal, but the same applies for TyTN:
BlueTooth
IrDA
USB

maybe we should put this on the wiki?

yak86 said:
maybe we should put this on the wiki?
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Wiki updated, I've put it on FAQs:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_FAQs

DUN
Is there a way to use DUN now that it's been disabled because of Internet Sharing?

New Tyten and Vista
Ok, I've been through the 3 ways to connec as a modem, I actually manged to connect ages ago with XP.
I now have a new Tyten, well new for the states but probably old in the rest of the world.
Anyway the New Tyten has a thing called Internet Sharing instead of wireless modem
None of the old settings are there anymore.
It also has a new way to connect via Blue Tooth Pan.
I've tried the Pan way but I had no luck, the connection seemed to work but I couldn't get on the internet.
I then tried USB, I couldn't get Vista to recognise the Tyten, even when I turned off the active synch, anybody got any ideas????

with Vista and WM6 internet sharing I think its easier than DUN. there is a whole how to in the help program on your hermesjust open the help app and search for internet sharing. just make sure your phone and laptop are connected via bluetooth and then open the internet sharing app and click connect make sure its set to bluetooth PAN. on my laptop I have a little bluetooth icon when its on so I right click that and then connect via persoanl network and then a little pop up pops up and I click on the connect bottun and it connects in about 15 seconds pretty easy! I know for USB you have to open the WMDC connection settings and uncheck allow usb connections.

Thanks
Cheers for that, I'll give it a go, although to be honest I've been trying it all afternoon..
I get the connection but no Internet connection..

Help Still needed
Ok, the plot thickens, I found drivers on the HTC Europe site to connect your Hermes to Vista.
I uninstalled all of the previous active synch hardware and also thre previous modem
When I plug the phone in it doesn't open the new downloads.
Any ideas, I'm running Windows 5.1, is there an official Windows 6 I can update to?

Some help with Macbook
So the instructions are great but how does it work on an Apple Macbook? I've searched through the forum many times without any luck. Any ideas on how to connect via USB and/or bluetooth?

elnino132 said:
So the instructions are great but how does it work on an Apple Macbook? I've searched through the forum many times without any luck. Any ideas on how to connect via USB and/or bluetooth?
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Search, then you'll find.
It is ok for me using 10.4.10 with USB via MissingSync.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302977&highlight=MissingSync

this may help...
For anyone having trouble getting their laptop to recognize the 8525 as a modem this may be the solution.
http://www.terranettech.net/DisplayPg.aspx?codeid=1128
my phone was working fine but when I tried to set my wife's up to tether it wouldn't show new hardware found when plugged in and when I tried to manually install the driver the process bix just kinda stalled out and wouldn't go forward with the driver even though I had browsed to the right one. I had to uninstall the driver which was viewing the phone as a serial device. if you're having this trouble then try following te directions in the link above. it worked for me...

Using my mda as a modem via usb /gprs

Im off on holiday to a place with no wifi access im taking my laptop and was wondering if i can use my gprs connection so i can check email and browse using my laptop ?
Thanks

Try a program called pdanet available from www.junefabrics.com. I had the same issue last week and used pdanet to connect my PC to the internet via my GPRS T-Mobile account. The program worked well for me.

Modem Link
Look in programs on your MDA and you will see a program called ModemLink, it allows you to use your MDA as an Edge/GPRS modem. It's how I connect to the internet at home on my desktop. Hook up to the USB cable run Modem Link hit activate and follow the directions. If you look on Your CD that came with the phone in the OEM folder you'll find directions and a driver to use.

Heres a good guide:
http://www.pdagold.com/articles/detail.asp?a=269

Also see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=510&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for more info.

I was recently given a new laptop and had to reconfigure all my connections. Like you I have TM GPRS and while slow, it was still better than the alternatives. I tried & tried to get the usb modem to work but couldn't so in a last ditch effort I started playing around with the bluetooth modem and eureka, it works. I actually think it works better than usb, no cable, you dont have to mess with modemlink, it's stable, I'm using it right now.
My laptop is a dell xps which uses Toshiba's bluetooth stack. I initially tried configuring it with the auto configure wizard and it wouldn't recognize the wizard's modem. Instead use the manual process and in the Toshiba version there is a switch between modem and file transfer, it defaults to file transfer in the wizard, setting the switch to modem it instantly connected and logged into the gprs net (*99#, no password or logon info needed).
I also recently updated the wizard with the new tmobile rom which I believe eliminates modemlink because when I said you dont mess with it, it's because it's not there or at least I couldn't find it. Anyone else see this?

which one is more easier to set up?
thanks

usb
I figured this out yesterday using the usb cradle (to see if it would work).
The key is in the order that you do things.
Go to the wiki site (look at the top of the page - left) and follow the really simple instructions. THey work perfectly.
Good luck