MSN Messenger battery and bandwidth usage - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

I got pocket MSN working and tested it out yesterday. it used over 700kb just to keep alive and nearly 2/3 of my battery just in 5 hours.
does agile messenger behave in as hungry a manner, or is there a way of being online without sucking my battery and bandwidth?
I really wanted to keep online with msn at work with this device-all help and advice appreciated as I have 40mb per month limit on this tariff from t-mobile.

How did you keep track of how much GPRS/UMTS kilobytes it was using?
Like you I'd like to have MSN permenantly connected when I'm at work, but fortunately I have a spare Mini-USB cable so it can be charging from work PC - using their electricity not mine :lol: But the fact that it apparently uses so much battery is a bit concerning. Perhaps try getting one of those utils that can deliberately underclock your CPU?

the problem is if you are using UMTS. This ultra speed tecnology drains the battery. I you connect using GPRS you can leave MSN connected during one day or more without charging.

sl9 said:
How did you keep track of how much GPRS/UMTS kilobytes it was using?
Like you I'd like to have MSN permenantly connected when I'm at work, but fortunately I have a spare Mini-USB cable so it can be charging from work PC - using their electricity not mine :lol: But the fact that it apparently uses so much battery is a bit concerning. Perhaps try getting one of those utils that can deliberately underclock your CPU?
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I am using SPB GPRS Monitor v 2.3.0 build 525 - it monitors by selecting a connection so it adds up both GPRS and UMTS and displays it.
Would using GPRS use less bandwidth? Also, does anyone know how to make it use GPRS instead of 3G?

In phone application, select menu options/phone/band and select gsm, althought I prefer to use UMTS and not to leave MSN connected.

dherrero said:
In phone application, select menu options/phone/band and select gsm, althought I prefer to use UMTS and not to leave MSN connected.
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I agree: I also prefer UMTS. Much faster with IE.
But gives me few hours of battery life with MSN open.
I need MSN connected. GPRS is, of course, fast enough for MSN.
Doing some tests with Agile now. Hate the fact that it has no look and feel of WM5 (IMHO)
I seem however to be too stupid to switch off the MSN sound, warning that a contacts becomes on line. Agile keeps its mouth shut.
Would love the ability for a chat request to send the beep to my headset. Loose a lot of chats because of this.
Huib

sl9 said:
How did you keep track of how much GPRS/UMTS kilobytes it was using?
Like you I'd like to have MSN permenantly connected when I'm at work, but fortunately I have a spare Mini-USB cable so it can be charging from work PC - using their electricity not mine :lol: But the fact that it apparently uses so much battery is a bit concerning. Perhaps try getting one of those utils that can deliberately underclock your CPU?
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O2 supply GPRSMonitor with all their Xda's, including Exec. works for UMTS as well...

Southern_Man said:
O2 supply GPRSMonitor with all their Xda's, including Exec. works for UMTS as well...
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My new UK Exec doesn't have a GPRS monitor....
Edit: Sorry It's on the companion CD, which I haven't opened yet.

Ok, since my originalpost, here's what I get:
Agile on GPRS only (band selected in phone settings), uses <150k/working day to remain online. Battery isn't hit unduly, and all is well.
Speed is fine for MSN, also this setup is causing me to need to have a blow-out web session at the end of the month as I am too economical and am not using my 40MB. :lol:

joebongo said:
Ok, since my originalpost, here's what I get:
Agile on GPRS only (band selected in phone settings), uses <150k/working day to remain online. Battery isn't hit unduly, and all is well.
Speed is fine for MSN, also this setup is causing me to need to have a blow-out web session at the end of the month as I am too economical and am not using my 40MB. :lol:
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Yep Joebongo, I have the same feeling.
And Agile does not bother me with a beep every time a new contact comes up. I am not able to switch that sound off on MSN messenger.
Also being able to select only online Contacts is an advantage.
I had Agile on the Nokia 9500 and it never came back after a visit in the metro without GPRS signal.
This rversion econnects nicely after having been in a twilight zone.
A pity though it does not have the look and feel of WM 2005. The program would do better if it would use the buttons. Also smaller, and nicer fonts would be nice.
Huib

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ThunderHawk Pre-Release version 1.10 XDAII

Fianally ...I'm going to test it right now!
http://www.bitstream.com/wireless/prerelease.html
ciao
marco
What exactly is it and what does it do ?
What advantages will I have over IE ?
it's *the* web browser for pocketpc imho ...check their web page
ciao
marco
Looks good so far. Normally, I find GPRS to slow for casual web browsing. Only WiFi can work well enough with Pocket IE or Netfront type browsers. But since ThunderHawk only sends and receives keystrokes and screen data - and if you don't mind potentially sending personal info via the Bitstream servers - browsing over GPRS is very usable.
Yes Dale,
I was tesing it for over one hour and it's really really fast
ciao
marco
Is that a freeware ?
I saw it supports Hebrew fonts, would I be able to view Hebrew based web pages ?
The software is free, but is useless without the proxy service from Bitstream, which costs $50 US per year.
i think that it worths every buck
ps: dale ...i descovered right now that tekntoys has already charged my c/c even if they do not yet have the backpack in stock! :evil:
ciao
marco
They charged mine a week ago. They claimed that the credit card processing company was supposed to "hold" instead of "charge".
I don't know if you saw my other post in the "Expansys" thread, but Tek n Toys claims they will have stock and begin shipping out to customers this week. With overnight shipping, I hope to have my backpack by Friday.
Despite the incredicle clusterf*ck this has become, Tek n Toys has been reliable in the past, so I'm not worried about getting stiffed, just annoyed at the lack of communication about it all.
ok ...hope to have mine soon too ... :wink:
ciao
marco
DaleReeck said:
Looks good so far. Normally, I find GPRS to slow for casual web browsing. Only WiFi can work well enough with Pocket IE or Netfront type browsers. But since ThunderHawk only sends and receives keystrokes and screen data - and if you don't mind potentially sending personal info via the Bitstream servers - browsing over GPRS is very usable.
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Looks that we have a different situation here in CZ !
Lots of people using GPRS as their main data connection. GPRS unlimited subscription costs cca $23/month and it is relatively fast comparing with classic telephone line (coding scheme CS4 + comprimation proxy = up to 100kbps speed for GPRS). ADSL and other connection possibilities are expansive because of Telecom's almost monopoly, so we all have mobiles ;-) A good ilustration how monopoly and high prices help to deploy progressive technologies ;-)))
I'm not surprised that coverage in Europe is strong as it is the primary cellular service technology for the continent. But in the US, unfortunately, GPRS falls behind CDMA for throughput and overall coverage, especially in the area I live. Coverage is good with GPRS, but I get slow data speeds. OK for email, not OK for web browsing - unless I'm using a proxy like ThunderHawk.
Does anyone know which programm else could be used in order to convert the screen of O2?
I just tried to install the ThunderHawk product on my MDA II, but it gave a message that the device was unsupported.
Maybe I'm missing something on this thread. Are others using this product with the new HTC PPC Phone-2003?
gratefuled said:
I just tried to install the ThunderHawk product on my MDA II, but it gave a message that the device was unsupported.
Maybe I'm missing something on this thread. Are others using this product with the new HTC PPC Phone-2003?
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Make sure you are installing the CAB file that you download from the middle of the web page, not the "exe" download from the buttons near the top.
DaleReeck said:
gratefuled said:
I just tried to install the ThunderHawk product on my MDA II, but it gave a message that the device was unsupported.
Maybe I'm missing something on this thread. Are others using this product with the new HTC PPC Phone-2003?
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Make sure you are installing the CAB file that you download from the middle of the web page, not the "exe" download from the buttons near the top.
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i'm having the same problem, downloaded from the middle of the page, installed, registered, inputed reg. info, launched.
thunderhawk splash screen comes up, then after about 15-20 sec. i get a message saying "unable 2 connect at this time, please try again later".
i've checked 2 make sure that i was connected 2 gprs, even un/reinstalled, and still nothing. very dissappointing since i've been waiting 4 quite some time 4 the imate version 2 be released.
Hmmm. It seems to work OK for me...
DaleReeck said:
Hmmm. It seems to work OK for me...
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by the way i'm using T-Mo's free gprs on an imate with the official imate update.
Thunderhawk FREE TRAIL
Well, installed Thunderhawk on my MDA2, everything fine, then after connection i cannot get passed the upgrade screen. So that 30 day free trail is rubbisch :twisted:
It is just a discount, first pay then pleasure, where have i heard and felt that before.
So a simple uninstall will do the job. sorry guys a will not depart with money before i try. I am Dutch and that explains everything.
FREE TRAIL HE :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

T-Mobile MDA

I just wanted to share my experiences with my new phone so far. The T-Mobile MDA (I'm not sure what version it is, it's the only one for sale at T-Mobile right now) is an awesome phone.
Just today I learned how to listen to streaming Sirius satellite radio, and I enjoyed the sounds of dance music by the pool from Windows Media Player on my phone.
The things I hate about this phone are the battery life (it's horrible, especially if I have Bluetooth on all day for my Bluetooth headset or am listening to streaming music), the bad Outlook syncing (I don't know how to set contacts in a group like Personal and ONLY sync Person contacts with my phone), the GPRS connection is bad... I guess when I don't have service it disconnects itself or something, I don't know how to always keep it alive. Also, downloading things from this forum from my phone doesn't work, it downloads the file download.php when it should be downloading the actual file instead.
Are there any solutions to my problems?
How to keep your GPRS alive
1) Go to the following registry entry:
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A3 *****}\Connections\GPRS*****\"
2) Change "Always On" 0 into 1.
Thanks, is there anything wrong with keeping it on all the time?
Any battery saving enhancements or longer lasting batteries?
Battery
I am still looking into that GPRS issue myself.
I am not sure Kenny, but I read that there are two battery versions
for MDA vario. The standard version that is included with your device, and one that is a little bit more expensive, but will give you 50% extra power.
Please do a search on the net.
Tried this... my device will auto disconnect anyway.
JaySea,
Please try again,
It should work.
If it disconnects then something else is blocking it.
And even when it disconnects, it will connect by itself again,
about 2 minutes after disconnecting.
JaySea said:
Tried this... my device will auto disconnect anyway.
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Do a soft reset, then see if it works...
I'm a total n00b with the T-Mo MDA so please excuse the question.
To view the registry entry must you connect to a PC and access from that or is this done in the phone itself?
Thanks.
Viewing the registry...
You can check/edit the registry on your handheld device with (for example) Resco Explorer or Total Commander...
okay, I'm confused. Is this the right version of Total Commander? MDA has an xscale proc, right?
Sjaakman: Thx so much for the tip.
My MDA has excellent battery life, much better than my previous iMate jam.
WiFi drains your battery life quickly. Set your backlight to the 2nd lowest level and make sure it is set to turn off after 1 min - if it's on all the time that takes a lot of power.
Maybe your battery is bad, see if you can get it replaced.
I'm a newbie in this subject on PDA phones, I just acquired the new MDS Vario T-mobile and don't know many of the great features that some of you mentioned here. If there is any way that I can find more information about the usage of the phone, please send me a PM to guide me through in my initiation. Every bit of advise will be much appreciated.
I'm a newbie in this subject on PDA phones, I just acquired the new MDS Vario T-mobile and don't know many of the great features that some of you mentioned here. If there is any way that I can find more information about the usage of the phone, please send me a PM to guide me through in my initiation. Every bit of advise will be much appreciated.
question how did u get serious radio
Yea how DID you get sat. radio? i mean we all have wifi/gprs/edge...so where do u go to listen?!?!
thanks
Kenny Pollock said:
Thanks, is there anything wrong with keeping it on all the time?
Any battery saving enhancements or longer lasting batteries?
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:lol:
thanks
Kenny Pollock said:
Thanks, is there anything wrong with keeping it on all the time?
Any battery saving enhancements or longer lasting batteries?
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:lol:
Battery Good overe here
My battery is good it last a long time for a device of this magnitude, also I foud a thread on here about increasing frame rate of the cam from 10 to 19, well i did this then enabled the frame rate counter, it stayed at 10.06 or so. But yesterday I turned the fram rate enabled thing on again now its showing 30-38 frams a sec for video and 15-16 for Pics!!! I dont know y, anyone experience this!!!
Web Access via Wifi or GPRS/Edge
Hello, I am new to TMobile and the MDA; I have had it for 4 days. For the life of me, no matter what I do I cannot get the phone to access the web. Here is what I have done:
1) At home, my PDA (ipaq 4705) and previous phone (imate Jam mini) both connect to my home wireless acess pont with no trouble. The MDA shows my access point in the Network Cards Settings, but it will not associate with it at all. The battery is fully charged, the mode is set to performance, woreless is on, the acess point shows up in the Settings Wireless status screens, but it will not associate. The access point is a b/g one and it is set to mixed mode.
2) I have set up the GPRS settings exactly as per TMobiles web site with the access point (wap.voicestream.com), the proxy, the 8080 port number etc. When I try to go to a website (any web site), the GPRS/Edge modem successfully connects, but Internet Explorer just indicates 'Locating' and I never see a web site,
I have phone service plus the full internet package at 29.95 per month.
Nothing on the phone makes me think it is broken. For those that may have all this working, is there some magic to it? I'm trying not to call TMobile as the 3 or 4 times I have spoken with them I have not seen very good technical knowledge at all.
I have searched quite a bit but have not seen any mention of these problems. I'm hoping I am doing something wrong. Any experienced TMobile user out there that can give a few suggestions?
Regards,
Bob

icq / IM

Which program do you use for IM on your windows mobile?
Are there any free ones? Which would you recommend?
I saw ShapeServics IM+ 4.22, commercial program, looks neat but overpriced.
hacked aim.
It's free and works excellant.
where can one download that?
is there anyway to make hacked aim less dependent on the stylus? i hate using that thing.
Hope this helps...
You can download hacked AIM from here.
And as for not using the sytlus as much, you can set the options to make the Enter key send the msg instead of inserting a line break.
Agile Messenger
You can try Agile Messenger... its free.
I heard that Agile Messenger is quite unstable, is that true?
Also I heard that some IM's disconnect GPRS connection when phone goes to stand-by (power off key pressed) is that true?
Not sure
Not sure really about the unstability factor, works pretty ok until now, doesn't disconnect, but haven't really tried being logged on for the whole day or long enough for it to go on stand-by. GPRS also stays on. Though it gives another kind of error of start-up (maybe because it doesn't like being on a memory card) that's when the prog is not running. Otherwise I am quite happy, give it a try.
dpetrek said:
I heard that Agile Messenger is quite unstable, is that true?
Also I heard that some IM's disconnect GPRS connection when phone goes to stand-by (power off key pressed) is that true?
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1) Yes, Agile is not good
2) No, that is not true.
so...
So what is the best service then? :?

gprs usage

Hi all,
I got rid of mine P990 and got myself this amazing tytn.I was wondering if
there is a program which shows gprs connection status and data usage?
Thanks in advance
The defacto standard program that I know of is SPB GPRS Monitor. It's a great piece of software and one of the only ones available. The other that's far less popular (based on dl's and google search ranking - not customer rating) is All-Locations GPRS Monitor. As far as I know it does the same with only minor differences in graphics. An alternative to both is using the data "add-on" in phonealarm - haven't tried it but looks like it has alot of potential.
SPB GPRS Monitor works great.
It came with my previous QTek 9100 and my current Vario 2. I don't know if HTC branded devices come with it too, but check on your CDs that came with it.
I wonder why there isn't any software that count the traffic when I use my Pocket PC as a laptop modem...
PhoneAlarm
Check out PhoneAlarm from www.pocketmax.net, it give you more then just data monitor, you got multiple phone profiles, call min monitor and more.
I'm using Smartphone gprs monitor myself on my M3100, works fine and you can just set your start billing date and let it get on with it.
The link to it is http://www.efficasoft.com/gprsmonitorppc.html...
I also use a little util to stop any data traffic unless I actually mean to use it.. such as accidently connecting to the net.. Also usefull to stop roaming connections on gprs (big bills) (Got it off MODACO forum)
Hope that helps
Thank you all for your help

Orange Internet - Cost of connection

Hi. Well firstly just a quick hello as this is my first post on these forums!
I've just got my HTC Touch HD and think it's a great phone. However I'm having a few interent connection problems. I'm with Orange and have 500mb a month internet with them. I would like my phone to access my home wifi when at home, my work wifi when at work (which is patchy at the best of times) and when these aren't availabe, connect via orange through my phone.
The problem I have is that I woke up this morning to find my Orange Interent had been on all night (Just over 10 hours)........is this eating into my 500mb limit, or do I have to accessing a program for it to run the 500mb down?
Also, does the GPS for tomtom and google maps need interent access?
Thanks for any light you can she don this!
The 500mb is how much you download to your phone for the month. If your orange internet is on all night, but not downloading anything you are fine, if on the other hand, you had a site eg BBC on opera all night, it will eat up each time the page refreshes.. does this make sense?
One tip I do to ensure I only use wireless is to turn off data communication when in the house, so it only picks up my wifi..
Hi
I'd recommend downloading Tweak HD. It's got lots of options to disable Orange internet and wap to stop things like this happening. I was having the same problem until I got this brilliant program.
Ah great.Thanks guys. There wasn't any programs running, so hopefully it wasnt actually downloading etc. I have tried turning the connection off...but it seems to turn itself back on whenever it needed it!
I'll try the HD Tweak program, I've seen it about but not tried it yet.
Thanks again.
Im on Orange aswel and have the 500MB a month package.
I downloaded an app that you can put in your data plan (500MB) for the month and then it gives you a % of your used and your remaining.
Pretty cool app I must say, and i've never maxed that out and I use my phone constantly, 3 e-mail accounts constantly syncing, google maps (latitude), you tube, tomtom, web pages etc.
Hi JayPeg
I dont suppose you remember where you downloaded it? Or what it was called. Sounds like it would help me get used to knowing the limit.
Thanks for your reply
JayPeg said:
Im on Orange aswel and have the 500MB a month package.
I downloaded an app that you can put in your data plan (500MB) for the month and then it gives you a % of your used and your remaining.
Pretty cool app I must say, and i've never maxed that out and I use my phone constantly, 3 e-mail accounts constantly syncing, google maps (latitude), you tube, tomtom, web pages etc.
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In future try and provide names of software to help other users otherwise your post is useless.
You can achieve that with SPB Wireless Monitor (http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/wirelessmonitor/).
They have a 14-day trial to try out the tool.
The HD will always use wifi in preference to 3g, unless you've changed something there.
The problem comes if you don't close apps fully, many of them stick with the same connection they used last. You can demonstrate this with websites like whatismyip.com , note your 3G and wifi ones and do some experiments.
K_Hismoom said:
You can achieve that with SPB Wireless Monitor (http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/wirelessmonitor/).
They have a 14-day trial to try out the tool.
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SPB Wireless Monitor is useful, but I found there was often up to a 50MB difference (sometimes over, sometimes under) when compared to my Orange Bill. Visiting http://orangeworld.co.uk from your phone will give you an accurate (accurate in terms of what Orange will bill you for anyway and it's also sometimes a little out of date) measurement of network usage.
moshbeard said:
Visiting http://orangeworld.co.uk from your phone will give you an accurate (accurate in terms of what Orange will bill you for anyway and it's also sometimes a little out of date) measurement of network usage.
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I only get info on SMS and call timers from there? Any ideas why that might be?

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