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I just want to warn everyone the 2003 rom has many problem, since it is an internal development version. Here is the bugs I found right now.
1.Maybe it's not a "BUG". It miss the Wireless Modem which many people asked for a long time.
2.I tried Windows Media Player and Pocket Music 1.5, both can't turn off the display, which means you have to leave the display on when you listen the music. If any one can turn off the display , please tell us, may be I got some software conflicted.
3. 2 "Power" Logo on the setting menu, but the have different content. It looks like one is the new power setting tab, but it didn't provided some old fuction in the old power setting tab, so O2 kept the old one.
4. The SIM Contacts (Sim utility provided by PPC 2003) is horrible.It has NO fuction except copy the SIM card address to the phone.
5. YOU MUST NOT install Batterypack 2003 on the phone. It looks like working after you install, but your machine will never boot up after a soft-reset except hardreset the phone. (It is PPC 2003 / Battery Pack 2003 problem, not O2 / HTC's fault).
6. You will never know if the current signal support GPRS or not. It will not display the G logo in the "signal bubble".
Please add the list if you got any problem with the new rom.
If the bug I listed can't stop you install the new rom, go ahead :twisted: .
Moreover, it's not an official / final version rom, if you want stable rom, stay with XDA SE 1.1 rom.
Sorry for my horrible english~
1.Maybe it's not a "BUG". It miss the Wireless Modem which many people asked for a long time.
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Not a bug. it was a feature added by xda-developers.
2.I tried Windows Media Player and Pocket Music 1.5, both can't turn off the display, which means you have to leave the display on when you listen the music. If any one can turn off the display , please tell us, may be I got some software conflicted.
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tried it with windows media player and got the same thing. Pocket music 2.0 refuses to work at all
6. You will never know if the current signal support GPRS or not. It will not display the G logo in the "signal bubble".
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when i have grps signal i have G displayed in my bubble.
Alex
kalex said:
1.Maybe it's not a "BUG". It miss the Wireless Modem which many people asked for a long time.
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Not a bug. it was a feature added by xda-developers.
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No, it was added in the new ROMs by Qtek and O2. Whether it's a Microsoft or HTC tool I don't know, but it's definitely not ours...
XDA developer Peter Poelman,
didn't know that. i thought it was urs.
PPC 2003
Hi all
Only autentization to VPN over cetificates is good feature for me.
Another features :?
XDA-dev ROM 1.1 is best solution
It seems the "screen toggle" bug (can't switch off the screen probelm) can be fixed by install the PocketMusic 2.0 Bundle plus the 2.0_4_3 fix.
I can see a hotkey to turrn off display with 2.0 version.
Moreover, the "auto turn off display" fuction still works on the PocketMusic 1.5 Bundle version, and 2.0 too.
It's so strange the PocketMusic 2.0 works but WMP 9.0 doesn't work.
I'm happy with the PPC2003 now. If we have to wait to long beforce the official release, will XDA-Developer release an extra SE version based on the current version of PPC2003?
It still suffers fron some sms issues, i cant get a delivery receipt, and also the time sent stamp is actually the time received.
The auto config does not work, so as a result i can't get gprs working...
(Anyone know the settings for o2 uk ?)
All in all though a good upgrade !!
i loaded the 2003 rom and only have minor issues.
1. when connecting the network says voicestream instead of t-mobile.
2. connection seems slower even with the accelerator proxy turned on. the connection used to be as high as 40k according to spb gprs monitor. now i haven't seen it break 20k.
Unit no longer powers-on when placed in sync cradle; In order to sync the unit I now have to either (a) make sure unit is turned-on before placing it into cradle, or (b) place powered-off unit in cradle, then turn power on.
Not a major issue, but certainly a back-step in functionality. Anyone else notice this?
I'm using a TMobile XDA with updated ATT radio stack and PPC2003.
To Dondi :
I have your issue too, but I didn't think it is a problem for me, since I hate the machine suddenly power on itself when I am charging it.
i guess it s even better for the screen not to be lighted all the time when plugged on the cradle
Hey all. I just installed WM2003 PE. It looks and feels great. I only have the following comments:
I have installed the ROM on my Qtek 1010.
1. I can't seem to see any MIDI ringtone support on this one (probably because it's not a final release)
2. I'm still running on my old Radio Version 3.23 and my GPRS resumes connection seamlessly after calls - which is great.
3. I've read somewhere that applications will be visible on the 'taskbar' when running, but do not get this functionality also. No worries on this though, because 'Switch' works fine with WM2003.
4. Still no ability to add custom Operator Logos.
5. Hooray for the 'Busy' tone and indication!
SPB GPRS Monitor works fine with 2003. I also wanted to know from the rest of you guys: Do you have to manually initiate GPRS connectivity after a soft-reset? Or does it pick up your default connection and auto-connect?
To killercheung and Cyberb0b: You've given me a new perspective on the XDA not automatically switching on when placed in the cradle in the off state -- I appreciate the benefits you pointed out.
Also, I did notice that when I initially loaded the Ozone beta (prior to upgrading radio stack) the GPRS symbol was being displayed regularlyand I had no problem connecting with GPRS and getting decent performance (> 20 Kbps). However, after I convinced myself to "go all the way" and also perform the Radio Stack update, I now rarely see the GPRS symbol, and GPRS perfirmance has dropped to the 1Kbps level.
Now I wonder if Ozone also updated the radio (which I perhaps subsequently "downgraded" by loading the ATT RSU). Can anyone shed some light on this?
for what i ve seen Ozone does not modifiy the radio stack, you have to upgrade it yourself useing for exemple the O2 upgrade version 4.21.
As far as i m concern using GPRS in France with Orange as operator with SE 1.1 or with ozone i have the same brandwith capacity depending on the network trafic and my position, between 10 and 30 Kbps, i use SPB GPRS manager to monitor my connexion 24/7 and see what is my data consumption day by day (it also allow me to shut GPRS off without switching the phone off).
by now using ppc2003 for about a week, i have no gprs shut down, except going out of coverage area, we poor french are not full gprs anywhere, but it works pretty good in cities.
on thing i ve notices that i guess is significant :
however it is said that Gprs connexion isn t dropped any more when an incoming CSD call start, that is true but the transmissions are stopped.
I mean i can not send or recieve data while talking on the phone line. But this is not due to the software i guess it is due to the number of channels aviable on the device usually it s 4 + 1 or 4 + 2
whereas phones like SE P800 have 6 + 4 channels allowing the to really exchange data while using CSD channel.
But nevertheless it is a good upgrade cause i do not have to kill my irc session while talking on the phone (just have to hang up fast before the irc timesout ) ).
I got pocket MSN working and tested it out yesterday. it used over 700kb just to keep alive and nearly 2/3 of my battery just in 5 hours.
does agile messenger behave in as hungry a manner, or is there a way of being online without sucking my battery and bandwidth?
I really wanted to keep online with msn at work with this device-all help and advice appreciated as I have 40mb per month limit on this tariff from t-mobile.
How did you keep track of how much GPRS/UMTS kilobytes it was using?
Like you I'd like to have MSN permenantly connected when I'm at work, but fortunately I have a spare Mini-USB cable so it can be charging from work PC - using their electricity not mine :lol: But the fact that it apparently uses so much battery is a bit concerning. Perhaps try getting one of those utils that can deliberately underclock your CPU?
the problem is if you are using UMTS. This ultra speed tecnology drains the battery. I you connect using GPRS you can leave MSN connected during one day or more without charging.
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How did you keep track of how much GPRS/UMTS kilobytes it was using?
Like you I'd like to have MSN permenantly connected when I'm at work, but fortunately I have a spare Mini-USB cable so it can be charging from work PC - using their electricity not mine :lol: But the fact that it apparently uses so much battery is a bit concerning. Perhaps try getting one of those utils that can deliberately underclock your CPU?
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I am using SPB GPRS Monitor v 2.3.0 build 525 - it monitors by selecting a connection so it adds up both GPRS and UMTS and displays it.
Would using GPRS use less bandwidth? Also, does anyone know how to make it use GPRS instead of 3G?
In phone application, select menu options/phone/band and select gsm, althought I prefer to use UMTS and not to leave MSN connected.
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In phone application, select menu options/phone/band and select gsm, althought I prefer to use UMTS and not to leave MSN connected.
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I agree: I also prefer UMTS. Much faster with IE.
But gives me few hours of battery life with MSN open.
I need MSN connected. GPRS is, of course, fast enough for MSN.
Doing some tests with Agile now. Hate the fact that it has no look and feel of WM5 (IMHO)
I seem however to be too stupid to switch off the MSN sound, warning that a contacts becomes on line. Agile keeps its mouth shut.
Would love the ability for a chat request to send the beep to my headset. Loose a lot of chats because of this.
Huib
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How did you keep track of how much GPRS/UMTS kilobytes it was using?
Like you I'd like to have MSN permenantly connected when I'm at work, but fortunately I have a spare Mini-USB cable so it can be charging from work PC - using their electricity not mine :lol: But the fact that it apparently uses so much battery is a bit concerning. Perhaps try getting one of those utils that can deliberately underclock your CPU?
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O2 supply GPRSMonitor with all their Xda's, including Exec. works for UMTS as well...
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O2 supply GPRSMonitor with all their Xda's, including Exec. works for UMTS as well...
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My new UK Exec doesn't have a GPRS monitor....
Edit: Sorry It's on the companion CD, which I haven't opened yet.
Ok, since my originalpost, here's what I get:
Agile on GPRS only (band selected in phone settings), uses <150k/working day to remain online. Battery isn't hit unduly, and all is well.
Speed is fine for MSN, also this setup is causing me to need to have a blow-out web session at the end of the month as I am too economical and am not using my 40MB. :lol:
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Ok, since my originalpost, here's what I get:
Agile on GPRS only (band selected in phone settings), uses <150k/working day to remain online. Battery isn't hit unduly, and all is well.
Speed is fine for MSN, also this setup is causing me to need to have a blow-out web session at the end of the month as I am too economical and am not using my 40MB. :lol:
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Yep Joebongo, I have the same feeling.
And Agile does not bother me with a beep every time a new contact comes up. I am not able to switch that sound off on MSN messenger.
Also being able to select only online Contacts is an advantage.
I had Agile on the Nokia 9500 and it never came back after a visit in the metro without GPRS signal.
This rversion econnects nicely after having been in a twilight zone.
A pity though it does not have the look and feel of WM 2005. The program would do better if it would use the buttons. Also smaller, and nicer fonts would be nice.
Huib
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I am just about to purchase a new PDA. I am deciding between the Wizard (o2 xda mini s) and Universal (o2 xda exec).
The universal seems to have everything I want, but I am scared by the posts here.
So I have one basic question for you guys:
Do you think:
1. There are basic hardware problems which can't be resolved until there is a new version
2. It is just a buggy software/firmware issue, and this will be fixed by the current and future firmware upgrades ?
If it is 2, I will not mind buying it ?
thx
Only a personal viewpoint, but my view is that most of the problems are being caused by software that claims to support WM5.0 - but the reality is that although they do support it, not all software is as robust as it should be. I have installed and uninstalled a whole range of applications (purchased and trial versions) - and found that many cause lock-ups etc. After trial and error I have settled on a PIM (Pocket Informant) and a closer/launcher (GSPocketMagic) that work reliably, do not cause my Universal to lock up and do not seem to have any effect on system speed. Others I have tried may cause lock-ups or at least really slow the system performance down significantly. Not sure if others have found the same - just what I have found by trial and error. Hope it helps
that is a very interesting point. I was very influenced by this article:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35177
Also it seems if you read aximsite re: dell x51v, that Wm5 is not as compatable with wm2003se software as people think.
What also seems to be adding to the issues is that the service providers (o2, orange, etc.) are NOT aware of this and are installing applications as standard (e.g. battery meter) which actually cause lags in answering phone calls as they are not correctly for Wm5.
I guess the question is now, does the jasajr work fine when all bad the sowftare is uninstalled, and is it possible to uninstall monitoring software that service providers have installed ?
I just bought mine on Monday... great piece of kit!
If you are just going to use the software that came with it you shouldn't have any problems at all (i haven't anyway) all is working well.
I think as soon as WM2005 becomes more established and more developers cater for it the glitches will go, like NH said, it's more 3rd party software that's causing the problems
hey budo, which service provider did you buy from ?
how is surfing the internet using 3g (the real reason I want to buy it, as I will keep my normal mobile for phone calls)
rgds
My position is clear. WM5 itself has bugs and does things you don't expect. Here are just four examples of WM5 probelms which are nothing to do with third-party apps:
- If the Camera app is left on it heats-up the devices as it drains the battery
- On downloading email over GPRS/3G the Messaging app can freeze
- Media stored on the SD card when used by apps when the "suspend" option is used can cause the app to fail when you re-start your device
- WM5 can report it has insufficient memory even when it has 20MB of RAM free
- Memory leakage means you need to reset the device daily
- If you do reset it is possible to loose settings and data if this data has not been written back to the persistent storage from the real RAM
O2, and they give you 3 options for "install type" so if you want all the bells and whistles you can switch it on, or if you want just the basic software you can switch that on lol...
I have to sort my internet out for 3G, needs to be config for some reason.... but from what i have seen from GPRS it's top dog esp with sites that cater for mobile internet....
this is not good jah, i am put off again. although this could be fixed with a firmware update if htc provide that kind of thing. Anyone know their record on this for other devices ?
hey budo. If 3g is turned on, it should use it automatically for connection, even if it says gprs. that is normally how all my 3g phones have worked when 'bluetoothed' with a pda.
Colonel
I assume you have seen this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33871
I am not trying to put you off but just want to make sure you have a balanced perspective. I have an Exec and all I can say is that it is "high maintenance" like all M$ based systems
thanks, i'll read.
I'm not sure I totaly agree with you about M$ stuff. I had a dell x50v and currently have an orange m500, and they are perfectly reliable and low mainentance. It does seem however that the hardware people have rushed out wm5 systems without really doing their research and I am sure M$ is responsible for a load of bugs. Roll on WM5se ......
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hey budo, which service provider did you buy from ?
how is surfing the internet using 3g (the real reason I want to buy it, as I will keep my normal mobile for phone calls)
rgds
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Sux. This pixel doubling issue means that you don;t get anywhwere near the estate you expected. U can switch to Oz VGA but that costs a 5 min reset either way - easier to get to a PC! The other issue is that the IE browser is SO bad that 3G surfing feels like GPRS - in fact I used to fire up my laptop just to check that I had a good 3G signal in the area and was indeed surfing on UMTS!! Issue is that browser renders slowly, and cache's so badly that it actually reloads the whole friggin page when u go 'back'. I could have my laptop working on a 3G card right alongside my JJ on 3G, type in xda-developers and press 'go', and my laptop would give me the screen in seconds, whilst my JJ would take a full minute!! We're taking over 10x slower. Also, many sites do not render in PIE - blank drop boxes etc. In SA that's movie booking gone, not a SINGLE TV guide site works, and altho my private bank works, my company bank does not. However, terminal services in VGA is awesome...
craigiecraigie4
I don't really have problem with 3G and PIE. I use T-mobile and o2 in the UK and the rendering etc is reasonable given that I did not expect laptop like performance on my Exec. The Exec in corp mode with GSPMagic+ is very quick.
I just wanted to share my experiences with my new phone so far. The T-Mobile MDA (I'm not sure what version it is, it's the only one for sale at T-Mobile right now) is an awesome phone.
Just today I learned how to listen to streaming Sirius satellite radio, and I enjoyed the sounds of dance music by the pool from Windows Media Player on my phone.
The things I hate about this phone are the battery life (it's horrible, especially if I have Bluetooth on all day for my Bluetooth headset or am listening to streaming music), the bad Outlook syncing (I don't know how to set contacts in a group like Personal and ONLY sync Person contacts with my phone), the GPRS connection is bad... I guess when I don't have service it disconnects itself or something, I don't know how to always keep it alive. Also, downloading things from this forum from my phone doesn't work, it downloads the file download.php when it should be downloading the actual file instead.
Are there any solutions to my problems?
How to keep your GPRS alive
1) Go to the following registry entry:
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A3 *****}\Connections\GPRS*****\"
2) Change "Always On" 0 into 1.
Thanks, is there anything wrong with keeping it on all the time?
Any battery saving enhancements or longer lasting batteries?
Battery
I am still looking into that GPRS issue myself.
I am not sure Kenny, but I read that there are two battery versions
for MDA vario. The standard version that is included with your device, and one that is a little bit more expensive, but will give you 50% extra power.
Please do a search on the net.
Tried this... my device will auto disconnect anyway.
JaySea,
Please try again,
It should work.
If it disconnects then something else is blocking it.
And even when it disconnects, it will connect by itself again,
about 2 minutes after disconnecting.
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Tried this... my device will auto disconnect anyway.
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Do a soft reset, then see if it works...
I'm a total n00b with the T-Mo MDA so please excuse the question.
To view the registry entry must you connect to a PC and access from that or is this done in the phone itself?
Thanks.
Viewing the registry...
You can check/edit the registry on your handheld device with (for example) Resco Explorer or Total Commander...
okay, I'm confused. Is this the right version of Total Commander? MDA has an xscale proc, right?
Sjaakman: Thx so much for the tip.
My MDA has excellent battery life, much better than my previous iMate jam.
WiFi drains your battery life quickly. Set your backlight to the 2nd lowest level and make sure it is set to turn off after 1 min - if it's on all the time that takes a lot of power.
Maybe your battery is bad, see if you can get it replaced.
I'm a newbie in this subject on PDA phones, I just acquired the new MDS Vario T-mobile and don't know many of the great features that some of you mentioned here. If there is any way that I can find more information about the usage of the phone, please send me a PM to guide me through in my initiation. Every bit of advise will be much appreciated.
I'm a newbie in this subject on PDA phones, I just acquired the new MDS Vario T-mobile and don't know many of the great features that some of you mentioned here. If there is any way that I can find more information about the usage of the phone, please send me a PM to guide me through in my initiation. Every bit of advise will be much appreciated.
question how did u get serious radio
Yea how DID you get sat. radio? i mean we all have wifi/gprs/edge...so where do u go to listen?!?!
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Thanks, is there anything wrong with keeping it on all the time?
Any battery saving enhancements or longer lasting batteries?
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Kenny Pollock said:
Thanks, is there anything wrong with keeping it on all the time?
Any battery saving enhancements or longer lasting batteries?
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Battery Good overe here
My battery is good it last a long time for a device of this magnitude, also I foud a thread on here about increasing frame rate of the cam from 10 to 19, well i did this then enabled the frame rate counter, it stayed at 10.06 or so. But yesterday I turned the fram rate enabled thing on again now its showing 30-38 frams a sec for video and 15-16 for Pics!!! I dont know y, anyone experience this!!!
Web Access via Wifi or GPRS/Edge
Hello, I am new to TMobile and the MDA; I have had it for 4 days. For the life of me, no matter what I do I cannot get the phone to access the web. Here is what I have done:
1) At home, my PDA (ipaq 4705) and previous phone (imate Jam mini) both connect to my home wireless acess pont with no trouble. The MDA shows my access point in the Network Cards Settings, but it will not associate with it at all. The battery is fully charged, the mode is set to performance, woreless is on, the acess point shows up in the Settings Wireless status screens, but it will not associate. The access point is a b/g one and it is set to mixed mode.
2) I have set up the GPRS settings exactly as per TMobiles web site with the access point (wap.voicestream.com), the proxy, the 8080 port number etc. When I try to go to a website (any web site), the GPRS/Edge modem successfully connects, but Internet Explorer just indicates 'Locating' and I never see a web site,
I have phone service plus the full internet package at 29.95 per month.
Nothing on the phone makes me think it is broken. For those that may have all this working, is there some magic to it? I'm trying not to call TMobile as the 3 or 4 times I have spoken with them I have not seen very good technical knowledge at all.
I have searched quite a bit but have not seen any mention of these problems. I'm hoping I am doing something wrong. Any experienced TMobile user out there that can give a few suggestions?
Regards,
Bob
Hi. Well firstly just a quick hello as this is my first post on these forums!
I've just got my HTC Touch HD and think it's a great phone. However I'm having a few interent connection problems. I'm with Orange and have 500mb a month internet with them. I would like my phone to access my home wifi when at home, my work wifi when at work (which is patchy at the best of times) and when these aren't availabe, connect via orange through my phone.
The problem I have is that I woke up this morning to find my Orange Interent had been on all night (Just over 10 hours)........is this eating into my 500mb limit, or do I have to accessing a program for it to run the 500mb down?
Also, does the GPS for tomtom and google maps need interent access?
Thanks for any light you can she don this!
The 500mb is how much you download to your phone for the month. If your orange internet is on all night, but not downloading anything you are fine, if on the other hand, you had a site eg BBC on opera all night, it will eat up each time the page refreshes.. does this make sense?
One tip I do to ensure I only use wireless is to turn off data communication when in the house, so it only picks up my wifi..
Hi
I'd recommend downloading Tweak HD. It's got lots of options to disable Orange internet and wap to stop things like this happening. I was having the same problem until I got this brilliant program.
Ah great.Thanks guys. There wasn't any programs running, so hopefully it wasnt actually downloading etc. I have tried turning the connection off...but it seems to turn itself back on whenever it needed it!
I'll try the HD Tweak program, I've seen it about but not tried it yet.
Thanks again.
Im on Orange aswel and have the 500MB a month package.
I downloaded an app that you can put in your data plan (500MB) for the month and then it gives you a % of your used and your remaining.
Pretty cool app I must say, and i've never maxed that out and I use my phone constantly, 3 e-mail accounts constantly syncing, google maps (latitude), you tube, tomtom, web pages etc.
Hi JayPeg
I dont suppose you remember where you downloaded it? Or what it was called. Sounds like it would help me get used to knowing the limit.
Thanks for your reply
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Im on Orange aswel and have the 500MB a month package.
I downloaded an app that you can put in your data plan (500MB) for the month and then it gives you a % of your used and your remaining.
Pretty cool app I must say, and i've never maxed that out and I use my phone constantly, 3 e-mail accounts constantly syncing, google maps (latitude), you tube, tomtom, web pages etc.
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In future try and provide names of software to help other users otherwise your post is useless.
You can achieve that with SPB Wireless Monitor (http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/wirelessmonitor/).
They have a 14-day trial to try out the tool.
The HD will always use wifi in preference to 3g, unless you've changed something there.
The problem comes if you don't close apps fully, many of them stick with the same connection they used last. You can demonstrate this with websites like whatismyip.com , note your 3G and wifi ones and do some experiments.
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You can achieve that with SPB Wireless Monitor (http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/wirelessmonitor/).
They have a 14-day trial to try out the tool.
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SPB Wireless Monitor is useful, but I found there was often up to a 50MB difference (sometimes over, sometimes under) when compared to my Orange Bill. Visiting http://orangeworld.co.uk from your phone will give you an accurate (accurate in terms of what Orange will bill you for anyway and it's also sometimes a little out of date) measurement of network usage.
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Visiting http://orangeworld.co.uk from your phone will give you an accurate (accurate in terms of what Orange will bill you for anyway and it's also sometimes a little out of date) measurement of network usage.
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I only get info on SMS and call timers from there? Any ideas why that might be?