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I use the Storage to store some DLLs to save space. It works, not for all programs though.
Have tried installing programs to storage before (Journal Bar and Avantgo) but system seemed to be unstable afterwards.
Wonder if anyone has any good experience of storing and running other programs from Storage.
Also, has anyone tried installing the cab files from extended rom to Storage??? Is that possible at all???
RE
Yes, you can use Storage to store your cab files for the EXTROM.
BTW, program cab files for Storage and EXTROM are those that don't upgrade frequently otherwise you'll have to hard reset frequently too
Using Storage or Storage Cards should be avoided for anything on the today screen or anything which is bound to a hardware button. This is because the SD drivers take a little time to initialise when the device powers up and can result in files not being found - which can lead to small or big problems, depending on the nature of the 'missing' file.
This is why Pocket Plus cannot be installed in Storage any more and why Pocket Informant recommends installation into main memory. This is documented both by Spb Software House and WebIS.
I was beta testing SpbWeather and had some of the skins installed to Storage - whenever I used those skins, the plug-in was icon-less on power up, but main memory skins were fine.
As mentioned above, be careful selecting where to install Today Screen plug-ins.
As of the Storage, well I am not sure but I recommed you put in SMALL items in there since the storage becomes unstable at times because to OS may use a little of the Storage space to accomodate memory intensive applications like Adobe Acrobat. Correct me if I am wrong but this is what I understand about it.
Mvmajorem said:
As mentioned above, be careful selecting where to install Today Screen plug-ins.
As of the Storage, well I am not sure but I recommed you put in SMALL items in there since the storage becomes unstable at times because to OS may use a little of the Storage space to accomodate memory intensive applications like Adobe Acrobat. Correct me if I am wrong but this is what I understand about it.
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Ther is so little storage there, why not just ignore it and use SD memory, or main memory where required?
I use storage to store my wma ringtones... haven't have the guts to move the DLLs yet. with regards to this... if i create a folder named Windows in Storage and move all my DLLs there would I need to hack into the apps individually ang make them look at this folder... or will the OS automatically look at both folders? Some people say to use systempath to do this.
bnycastro said:
I use storage to store my wma ringtones... haven't have the guts to move the DLLs yet. with regards to this... if i create a folder named Windows in Storage and move all my DLLs there would I need to hack into the apps individually ang make them look at this folder... or will the OS automatically look at both folders? Some people say to use systempath to do this.
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As I know U have to hack the registry files of single appz to point in to storage folder instead in the main memory... :roll:
Regards,
Primoz
belfast-biker said:
Ther is so little storage there, why not just ignore it and use SD memory, or main memory where required?
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It's 10% of the device's memory, that's not insignificant and certainly not worth wasting. I store 13.2Mb of utilities and etc. in Storage so that it frees up the same amount of Main Memory but permits me to use them when swapping cards. I think it's a waste not to use it.
Into my Storage i have install :
Resco keyboard pro
Laplink controller
Handymenu
Hottbutton plus
Phone today
Today phone pro
VIto voice dialer
Used space for all this 3.21 mb
Free space 4.31 mb
I Don't have any problem at all, my JAM works smoothly & stable plus the today plugins run faster than ever...
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Hi,
I am reading for the post that people make use or make bigger \storage folder.
I never use or didn't know that \storage folder can be used as \storage card folder (SD Card). So far I only know that it is used to keep contact, todo, calendar, and connection.
Could I put file, program, wav or mid file on it to make use of \storage folder?
Can somebody please explain.
Thanks!
Arto
keep it i your mind as just only another sd-card storage but with better spped times.
What I heard is SD is faster than storage.
But the REAL advantage of storage over SD is yr PDA will not supply power to SD in suspend mode. And time is needed to initialize it from suspend mode
Therefore, if yr PDA want to loaded program installed on SD from reset (or suspend) mode, it may complaint it couldn't found the program or low batter error
anansky thanks.
Could I install something like Skype on \storage folder? And can I run it like normal program afterthat?
I should try it myself, but I am too lazy
Regards,
Arto
yes, U could.
But for skype, I would rather install it on SD (unless U are using an SD wifi card) since it doesn't needed immediately after an suspend.
Good canadiates of program to be installed on storage will be Today's plugin, driver, Beta Player (in case I switch the SD for the songs), DLL (using MemMaid to move dll from main memory to storage), and programs I needed even I need to take out the SD (eg. Resco file manager, Resco Register editor, Burr Oak's Hot Button, Pocket Hack Master, Voice Command and Pocket Informant)
Rgds,
Jack
jackleung said:
yes, U could.
But for skype, I would rather install it on SD (unless U are using an SD wifi card) since it doesn't needed immediately after an suspend.
Good canadiates of program to be installed on storage will be Today's plugin, driver, Beta Player (in case I switch the SD for the songs), DLL (using MemMaid to move dll from main memory to storage), and programs I needed even I need to take out the SD (eg. Resco file manager, Resco Register editor, Burr Oak's Hot Button, Pocket Hack Master, Voice Command and Pocket Informant)
Rgds,
Jack
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I have the impression that the \Storage (ROM) has slower read/write speed compared to main memory (RAM) so I wouldn't install my frequently run programs like Today's plugin into \Storage.
Would the OS use the \Storage space as working memory when main memory runs low? I've got a feeling that it would not...
Is it possible to:
1. set MyDocuments default path to Storage?
2. Store mail attachments on storage folder?
YRLS said:
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2. Store mail attachments on storage folder?
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you can store them on sd :wink:
crino said:
YRLS said:
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2. Store mail attachments on storage folder?
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you can store them on sd :wink:
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I know, but I have to use a SDWifi too ;-)
With Tweaks2k2 I set mail attachements on storage 8)
patrickquek said:
I have the impression that the \Storage (ROM) has slower read/write speed compared to main memory (RAM) so I wouldn't install my frequently run programs like Today's plugin into \Storage.
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Yes, ROM is MUCH slower than main memory. But mini only got 4x mb main memory left and some programs and DLLs must installed in main memory to work (Chinese Plugnin, Voice command ... etc). People like me who runs serveral applications at the same time (GPS software, BetaPlayer, Phone) have to sacrifty some speed over stability.
patrickquek said:
Would the OS use the \Storage space as working memory when main memory runs low? I've got a feeling that it would not...
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No, it won't.
T-Mobile NL MDA Compact upgrade works
Hi,
Just wanted to drop a note that the magician_os1.11wwe_bigstorage works, I just upgraded my T-Mobile Netherlands MDA Compact.
However, I did have some troubles getting the rom image on my SD card (sections=1 not allow, update! errors). After tried about 4 different cheapo brands of SD cards, I finally got it working on the boxed 256 MB Sandisk MiniSD w/ adapter which came in the T-Mobile package.
As this 15 page thread mentions a whole spectrum of bytes to copy varying from 220 bytes in the original doc, up to several MB's, the number of bytes I copied is exactly 416 decimal bytes (that is 1A0 hex, i.e. HDD Hex Editor showing Sel: 00000000-000001A0 (416 bytes) in the right bottom corner).
All files I used for the upgrade are on http://www.crapware.nl/qteks100/
I did the big storage hack thereby gaining for myself the extra 26.72 mb of space. I have a O2 mini. I used the Method C, using a copy of my own ROM (referred to notes from the Dubai forum). I then went out on to install all my programs into the newly acquired storage area. Some cab files from the saved extended rom (my extrom version is 1.12.920 wwe). Yes ! it is not blank even though I did the hack! Strange.
Programs installed in Storage card of 256 MB
(1) Lexisgoo
Programs in the storage memory of 26.72 MB
(1) BurOaks Conversion in Hand
(2) Conduits Pocket Player
(3) Illium Software E Wallet
(4) Johnathan sachs stop time
(5) Microsoft Voice
(6) Omega 1-Calc
(7) Phatware Phatnotes
(8) Phatware Phatpad
(9) PocketX Photo Contacts
(10) Resco Audio
(11) Resco explorer
(12) Resco keyboard
(13) TCPMP &
(14) Webis Pocket Informant
Program in Main Memory
(1) Phatware calligrapher
I use Pocket Nav to task manage
Earlier I had around 22 mb of memory free. Progressively as I kept using programs and closing them I find that my system is reporting less and less free space. Currently I have 5.37 MB free space, such that the systems flashes the message “the device is critically low of memory etc. etc.”
Total Main Memory - - > 57.42 MB
Allocated:31.49 MN Allocated: 25.92 MB
In use: 28.60 MB In use: 23.44 MB
Free: 2.89 MB Free: 2.48 MB
Storage 26.72 MB
In use: 20.63 MB Free 6.09 MB
My contention is that after loading all programs in storage memory I should have enough free space for running programs. Since, this was the main reason to do a big storage hack. Moreover, now, at any given point I do run more than 1 program in the background.
Also assuming I did not have memory problems, how much further programs could I squeeze into the storage memory ?
Can someone please help?
It appears that you have a memory leak.
Memory can and does get consumed and lost over time due to badly written programs and other OS issues, but to be down to "critical memory" in 1 day is unusual. I run many more programs and that almost never happens to me, so I think that it's either the combination of programs you're using, or how you're closing the tasks. You should know that "closing" tasks can also leak memory potentially.
None of the programs you mention seem to be particularly dangerous, and your setup is not unconventional. I suggest that you use a systematic approach to examining your system and apps, checking each by opening and closing several times, to see which, if any are leaking memory. Run only one app at a time, checking memory before and after.
VJEschaton has a freememory display (and an alpha release memory compacter) if you don't have another one anywhere else.
V
Phew ! A reply at last ! Thank you. I was loosing patience and I needed some sort of explanation. I agree with your explanation. Before posting here I have been reading a lot on this forum and other forums regarding the big storage and what it does. A few questions that I have which I am listing below. I hope you don't mind answering.
(a) Do I need to flash my modified big rom again ? Then start all over again installing my programs.
(b) Could something be wrong with my Device. Which means I have to flash my old, save rom, go back to old Ext rom of 7 mb and then reflash with the Big storage ROM
(c) Stay where I am (with big storage) and install /uninstall programs till I pin point the offending program.
(d) It could be Pocket Player which is the culprit since that was the last program I installed. At that time my free memory was between 21 & 24.
(e) Can I continue to install more programs in storage memory until it is full to capacity and ;
(f) then install other programs to Card
(g) Why would my Ext Rom not show blank (since I have modified this area). Instead it is showing me the Ext Rom Version Number 1.12.920 WWE when it should be blank
(h) Would SK Tools, Freeup Ram be of any help if I install it.
Regards,
Hello,
after Using Meschles Touch 3.1 WWE -Rom I wondered how I used up my remaining 46mb main Storage, since I usually put all programs etc on my 8GB SDHC-Card.
Is there any tool that would give me an idea, what programms use how much of my storage? (in Activesync I do not see whether programs are in main or external storage, SKTools does also not show all my installed programes).
How much would I save round about, if I start to compile some programs into self-cooked roms?
How can I find out, wheather my pagefile -memero is 2, 4, 6 or 8 MB?
Thanks for your help
You may go to
mydevice>application data>volatile
open volatile then delet whatever inside it. You may get extra 9 mega.
pocket mechanic is great for that as it. It can also move programs from main memory to storage card (including all relevant files, registry info etc..)
Re:
Thanks for your efforts. I tried both, but I could not free anything, maybe that volatile folder might also be emptied by oxios hibernate?!?
Pocket Mechanic seems quite similar to SKTools, actually there were many programs I could not move, du I even did not information wheather they are on main or external storage (like tomtom). I guess its theses kind of programm who also do not ask you wheather you want to install on external or main memory ;-(
Hello All.
I installed on my Qtek 9090 a ROM WM6 in Spanish, everything works fine but when I see how little storage space is left and plenty of room for programs that I use, I wonder:
How can free up space or distribute the available space for storage and programs.
This is data:
Memory storage:
Total space 60.30MB, In Use 52.55MB, Free 7.5MB
Memory Program:
Total space 109.12MB, In Use 37.45MB, Free 71.67MB
What I want is to have more memory for storage, as I do this?
Or able to balance the memory as is done in WM2003.
Forgive but do not like taking a picture of the device.
Unistall programs that dont need speeds and install on Storage card, that way yu can save lots of memory space.
April 1 said:
Unistall programs that dont need speeds and install on Storage card, that way yu can save lots of memory space.
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It's not that easy. Every program I can install in the storage card, I try to do. I also changed my email and attachments to the storage card. Prior to syncing my email, I had 18MB and the PIM file was 11MB. 3/4 of the way through, I have 8MB left and the PIM file is 12MB.
After looking in every directory, I can't seem to find why 10MB of space was used. Further, you can't relocate the PIM file.
In WM2003, you can adjust the program and storage memory. You can't in WM6.
Try this...
Go see the second post here for what I do to keep the storage running with 12MB free and still install mad amounts of software!
Best advice is to read the bit about Pocket Mechanic - it'll help move most (not all) software to the card for you - changing all the reg entries and links for you!
And if it's speed you're after, try Pocket Hack Master from the same company!
But DO remember to backup with something like Spb Clone BEFORE you paly with these tools! Saves any embarrassment later
Bird
i think you may need ramdisk
look at the following thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382944