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JASJAR / UNIVERSAL - BUGS N TWEAKS

Just thought I would start a forum Dedicated to one location to document any Bugs that are known, and possible solutions. So if you have any known bugs, or if you have known tweaks, please post.
I have only had the JASJAR for 2 days now, and notice the following issues:
1. Significant amounts of my old software that was working on WM2003SE will not run on WM2005 for example:
SPB - The screen short cuts work fine, but the rest doesnt, no tweaks to PIE, no battery status, no "CLOSE" fix. This is a big problem, cause everything you open stays open unless you close it all via running programs.
KSE Fax - didnt work
Resco Explorer - didnt work
MSVC - didnt work, wont uninstall!!
Pocket Dictate - didnt work
Navman SmartST - didnt work, so didnt get to test the GPS port technology.
Flashdash - didnt work, per supplier working on a fix.
PHM Registry editor - didnt work
2. Text messages dont appear to be deleting, they come back on reset
3. Mortgage calculator due to VB Runtime not supported
4. Couldnt activate MS Reader even though its a microsoft product!!
5. No backup software which is a pain when you are installing software to test, and then cant install it, or your not certain its properly uninstalled
6. No VGA output, or cannot locate how to display on alternative screens such as data projectors. I got the back pack with the XDA II, but cannot find an option here.
7. Serious slow downs due to applications not closing
8. Seem to be a problem with the Blue tooth headset activating the voice command when its switched off.
9. calculator is still the basic model, not the advanced version you can get on your PC.
10. Cant find the registry hack to show the date not just the time.
11. Couldnt get avantgo to work.
12. Explorer still takes a very long time to explore the windows directory, and still doesnt allow a properties view on it.
Some of these might be because I simply couldnt be bothered tweaking some of these, or looking at possible fixes.
I can also see some serious memory issues and the need for a good SD card is going to be important. Speaking of which, allows the ability to automatically/select install to SD card, which is a bonus, dont need cabinstall anymore. Even so,
BUT OVERALL, I think its a nice device, only just released, nice and clear screen, great functionality, good WIFI without serious battery drains compared to what I am used to, BT Headset works usually. I am still to get the MMS and GPRS operational, and dont know anybody that can use 3G yet.
Synchronising music with WMP10 is a good feature, and it can be setup to synchronise your videos and pictures I think.
So, what do the rest of you think please list your bug bears, and if you see a fix great, and any suggested tweaks or software that does work on your devices would be great. Hoping for a long and fruitful post of consolidated tweaks and bugs.

resco file explorer on wm5
I upgraded to resco file explorer 2005 (half price if you last purchased 2003 version after 1 yr) . Try that version if the 2003 version does not work.

some of the stuff mentioned are not really bugs (resco explorer 2k3 works for me,slowdowns because of multiple apps running-> you need a task manager for this)
right now, I'm still waiting if this will ever support USB hosting (but I doubt if it is). I'm quite confuse with how tekguru came up with the conclusion that Universal can act as USB host. i tried inserting an external harddisk using the stock usb cable+female usb A+usb A, nothing happens

hey
i beg to differ...
the phm registry works just fine..
ive tweaked the date and time into the top bar thru registry
ive also changed the calendar softkey on the screen to run and display file explorer
resco explorer 2005 works just not the network part of it...
spb pocketplus with battery bar at the top of the screen works aswell

WM2005 Tweaks n bugs
Thats interesting, I will try to download updated versions then rather than those kept in my library and try again and will advise.
Does the "close" operation on SPB work ok?
Where did you locate the registry tweak?
I think I was using Resco 2003, a few have noted 2005 works ok.
Cheers

for closing app i bought this application called handyswitcher... i also know the close app in wisbar advance 2 also works i havent tried spb close app button..since i have the other two

spb 3
I downlaod and installed spb3. it seems to slow this thing down, but it does have the task manager.
the biggest bug I have is with skype, it just closes down suddenly?

magic button task manager is lightweight and its freeware. I'm having problems with WA2, I'll just install it later when a more stable build for wm5 will be available

avantgo installation
I have found that u can install Avantgo by doing the following:
1. Go to Avantgo website
2. Register
3. Download old wince version
4. install it on pc with pda connected and activesync active
5. upgrade to pocketpc version
6. do an activesync syncing (after choosing ur free channels)
thats it, u get avantgo on your system, but beware, it takes internal disk space...
Greetings
Nabil H
PS I guess M$ removed Avantgo from Rom because it offers now pocketmsn on universal and Avantgo competes with it, the old IE/Netscape story...

Can i ask you poeple with the new EXEC, or branded version, Looking at the pictures the microphone and speaker are on the same side as the LCD screen. If its closed (like a laptop) do you need to open it and spin the LCD round (like a tablet PC) in order to use it as a phone for a voice call
Thanks John

applecom said:
Can i ask you poeple with the new EXEC, or branded version, Looking at the pictures the microphone and speaker are on the same side as the LCD screen. If its closed (like a laptop) do you need to open it and spin the LCD round (like a tablet PC) in order to use it as a phone for a voice call
Thanks John
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you dont need to open the lid. there's a Send/End call button at the side to make the call. problem is you dont have a way of knowing who's calling. that's where jabra bt800 or akon hbh660 BT headsets come in handy

thanks for the reply GM, that makes sence to use a Bt headset that shows caller ID, But as to answering it with the external buttons, and if the thing is closed wuth the screen inside, cam you hear the caller if you dont have a headset

applecom said:
thanks for the reply GM, that makes sence to use a Bt headset that shows caller ID, But as to answering it with the external buttons, and if the thing is closed wuth the screen inside, cam you hear the caller if you dont have a headset
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yes.

gm said:
some of the stuff mentioned are not really bugs (resco explorer 2k3 works for me,slowdowns because of multiple apps running-> you need a task manager for this)
right now, I'm still waiting if this will ever support USB hosting (but I doubt if it is). I'm quite confuse with how tekguru came up with the conclusion that Universal can act as USB host. i tried inserting an external harddisk using the stock usb cable+female usb A+usb A, nothing happens
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Tekguru didn't come up with it - quite the opposite in fact. But he reported that ANOTHER site was reporting it worked

Microsoft Voice Command 1.5 has issues... it requires a manual install using the .cab file and seems to mostly work but causes problems with WM5.. and it won't uninstall.
also, I have found that you cannot copy text from a note and paste it into the body of an email using the tap and hold method. you must press fn+space bar to do it... this is a bug in WM5.

applecom said:
thanks for the reply GM, that makes sence to use a Bt headset that shows caller ID, But as to answering it with the external buttons, and if the thing is closed wuth the screen inside, cam you hear the caller if you dont have a headset
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You can hear the caller anouncement with voice command installed.

the skype issue is caused by active sync
active sync turns itself on non-stop, I am constantly having to return to running programs and turn it off. skype needs memory, so it crashes when active sync is running.
Is there a registry tweak to stop the 'auto-on' feature of skype?
as for spb3, it does slow this down and make it buggy. I am losing it.

can't you just turn off auto sych into your AS?

NO Announcement with incoming calls. Its so low you cant hear sh..

no turning off active sync in options
the 'option' to turn off is simply gone.

One upon a time....

I use to have a XDA 2 (well, SPV M1000) and (the important thing) a folder named "My XDA 2 must have". The software I use most, the software to backup, the software to keep not only to try. Like:
1. Sprite Backup
2. Visual IT Rough Guide to London (like A-Z map to central London + extras)
3. Splash ID
and not last
4. TomTom 5 .... and others that I miss already.
And THEN, here it is, I waited so long for it, (Exec) that I decided to switch from Orange, to O2, (Orange don't have this even now). Three days of "testing"...Well the device is great....Windows 5 isn't. (At least for me.)
My folder (My XDA 2 must have) is now "The software that doesn't work on WM5" ...None of the four named programs work...it takes ages to charge, it's slow, everything has changed...and how about that 'program' included "Clear Storage"??!!!
I thought it was something like remove programs, not a bloody HARD RESET!
Everything seems to say about Windows 5.....WHY FIX IT IF IT AIN'T BROKEN??!!!
BTW: Does anybody know a decent Wi-Fi Connections Manager that WORKS?? (Hitchhiker crashes my Exec, Retina Scanner wants to know what my socks size is when registering, Wi-Fi Companion Doesn't Install in WM5.........)
I am glad I didn't sell my SPV M1000 yet....but I want to....I love the Exec, but hate what it does...or rather what it doesn't!
..............helps us all !!!

You seem surprised that a major version upgrade (WM2003 to WM5) comes with occasional problems. Didn't we see the same when we changed from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95?
Later versions of desktop operating systems have some backwards compatibility built in, but with the limited resources of the PPC platform I guess they couldn't achieve everything.
We may not know what they are yet , but I'm sure WM5 has built-in features that drive the platform on another big leap and over time we'll take them for granted. I looked at my XDA2 last night (now two days-worth of dust gathering on it) and was reminded how fast it responded to commands, but it looked dated already compared with my shiny new Exec.
Don't forget, we're early adopters of WM5 and we're always going to have problems. When ROM upgrades are released and developers get new versions out for us, we'll wonder how we ever lived without it!
In case you haven't seen it yet, there's a thread running over at www.tekguru.co.uk listing the software that works perfectly on WM5. I found it useful when looking for replacements for my old WM2003 versions.

I have #2 and #4 working (for #4 you need TT 5.1 - d/l the update from their site)
Reinstall from fresh I reckon. And you are using activesync 4 not 3.8 still?

I agree with SiliconS.. I'm always wanting the very latest of everything (hardware and software) and to be honest, I'm surprised how good windows mobile 5 is!
There are many problems, like icons disappearing and speed etc..but they're not life threatening.
I only hope that the providers are going to keep up with the developers and release their specific patches..if not then I'll have to convert to the Jasjar rom :shock:
I love the MDA PRO even with it's problems.

Thanks for the help guys. I'll try these options as well.
BTW, anyone has any problems with the AvantGo software?

Also
#1 Try googling : Sprite Backup v3.2.0 build 2487.
Should be working with JJ.
Best of Luck. :wink:

mosesJJ said:
Also
#1 Try googling : Sprite Backup v3.2.0 build 2487.
Should be working with JJ.
Best of Luck. :wink:
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This is real? had you used and work with restores?
Thanks.

From the Sprite Backup developers website:
"Sprite Backup is only compatible with devices using Windows Mobile 2002 and 2003. Windows Mobile 2005 devices cannot use Sprite Backup. We will be releasing a new version that will be compatible with these devices in the near future. Please keep visiting this site for updates."
I did try the version you mentioned but no luck. I use a Exec not a JJ...coud that be it? Thanks anyway...and damn I need a backup program...[/quote]

Here I am after another whole day of reading forums, installing and uninstalling, hard resets, trial and error....and things like that.
As far as the XDA is concerned....I feel better about it now, installed SPB Pocket Plus (works a dream), SPB Finance (great 'cuz it syncs with Quicken), and most of all, swiched to "Corporate" mode...and man, it is FAST now !!!
As mentioned before, Sprite Backup doesn't work, AvantGo works but not as it should, SplashID....nope. I did try eWallet, which works ok on the desktop but not on the XDA.
It's all good fun though.

Grogo said:
swiched to "Corporate" mode...and man, it is FAST now !!!
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I'm thinking that I might go for a hard reset and choose Corp, but I don't know how to set up the GPRS details. How did you get GPRS working for Corporate Mode, or haven't you needed to?
I do find the settings for all these connections v.confusing. I just want it simple, like my laptop! One connection does all...

Now that you mentioned that, I wouldn't know if I need different setting yet, as I am still on Orange for the next couple of days until they port my number. Interesting to see if it works though.

I've tried today the GPRS, G3 connection and it worked without changing anything. (In Corporate mode)

TomTom 5.2 Update - Better?

IS there much difference in performance running 5.2 instead of 5.1 on the Universal?
Is there any difference at all?

This new version has the following new features and improvements:
Improved phone functionality for your device.
TomTom NAVIGATOR is now compatible with Microsoft Windows™ MOBILE 5.0 devices.
http://www.tomtom.com/support/category.php?ID=3&Language=1&FID=3361

Don't know if i may post it here. but check this out:
http://rapidshare.de/files/8475711/TomTom_Navigator_update_V.5.21_cracked.rar.html

excellent stuff, been waiting for this, but i cant get it to work, where do i place the cracked exe???

stf06 said:
This new version has the following new features and improvements:
Improved phone functionality for your device.
TomTom NAVIGATOR is now compatible with Microsoft Windows™ MOBILE 5.0 devices.
http://www.tomtom.com/support/category.php?ID=3&Language=1&FID=3361
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Thanks. But TT 5.1 works fine on my EXEC without any problems already. I was wondering if there is an actual difference in experience? Because I dont want to fix what aint broken unless there are new features or a performance improvement, etc...
So has anyone with the 5.2 update installed experienced any significant improvement please??

tyl said:
Thanks. But TT 5.1 works fine on my EXEC without any problems already. I was wondering if there is an actual difference in experience? Because I dont want to fix what aint broken unless there are new features or a performance improvement, etc...
So has anyone with the 5.2 update installed experienced any significant improvement please??
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Just tried the cracked one, and I can't see a difference against 5.1. The screen still draws visibly slowly and the UI is still as limiting and unsophisticated as ever.
I can't see any benefit in upgrading if TT is working already for you.
Looks like TomTom will be waiting a while longer to get my upgrade fee. I'm happy to upgrade legitimately from my legitimate v3, but I don't consider it to be a viable option at the moment. TomTom seem to have lost their way on PocketPC software since they are apparently unifying the software to match their TomTomGO platform. Sadly that leaves those of us with sophisticated multi-purpose devices wondering why we can't have the flexibility of version 3, in which we could keep the Windows Taskbar on the screen and actually use the damn operating system at the same time!
Not good, TomTom. Not good at all. :evil:

Thanks SiliconS.

You have no choice but to wait for the upgrade as I can't find any link to do this on their web site. Does anyone know of any other way of upgrading?
I have version 3 & I refuse to buy version 5 other than through an upgrade.
Mike

I have paid for the upgrade, but the cracked version saves having to mess around with their annoying registration system.
I find the UI clean and elegant. It allows you to quickly do what you need, without fuss. It also makes switching from other TomTom's (Go etc) easy. I find version 5 far better than 3. The maps are much improved too and include all of Europe. Easily worth the upgrade price.
(The screen update is slow in landscape mode, but fine in Portrait.)

i got this (on the wizard) and i still get the same backlight turning off when running it problem. and the hex edit doesnt work with this exe (well not the same values anyway)

thefunkygibbon, you need to hex edit the exe and find the 4 instances of backlight and change them to bbcklight.
Works great on wm5.

hack done
Tomtom 5.2 with hexa change

I have noticed no difference in operation over 5.1
The only change I can see is that it installs via active sink (sic) and ignores the instruction to install to the SD card by placing the application in RAM :evil:

not working correctly
this works for me but cant get any voices to work (i put them on the storgae card from original disk)
it will not find my gps either any ideas
clive

sparkyxda said:
I have noticed no difference in operation over 5.1
The only change I can see is that it installs via active sink (sic) and ignores the instruction to install to the SD card by placing the application in RAM :evil:
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Yea, those bozos at TomTom excelled themselves again, didn't they?
http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=6309013&postcount=9

Apart from what was said on Howard Forums, which I agree with (clueless TomTom devs!), the update seems to add the ability to install without having to copy the CABS onto the phone.
Apart from that, no difference. If you start it up in landscape mode, it'll run in portrait mode.
One other hint that TomTom are clueless idiots - the compatibility list shows the Jasjar and the MDA Pro as being compatible. However, when I requested an activation code from them they insisted the M5000 was not compatible. They wouldn't accept that the M5000 and the XDA Exec were the same hardware and base image!

In tomtom V5.21 better bluetooth management and u can install directly by activesync with WM2005. For the voices you must to install with the original disk and then you can choise the voices otherwise copy tomtom directory contain the voices in "my documents"

dazza12 said:
Apart from what was said on Howard Forums, which I agree with (clueless TomTom devs!), the update seems to add the ability to install without having to copy the CABS onto the phone.
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Precisely. Activesync install was the one obvious thing they had to fix, and they cocked it up. Funny how every other WM5 developer in the world seems to manage it.
Apart from that, no difference. If you start it up in landscape mode, it'll run in portrait mode.
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Precisely. Broken landscape mode. No support for soft buttons. So what's this magical support for WM5? Everything works the same (or doesn't) as in 5.1.
One other hint that TomTom are clueless idiots - the compatibility list shows the Jasjar and the MDA Pro as being compatible. However, when I requested an activation code from them they insisted the M5000 was not compatible. They wouldn't accept that the M5000 and the XDA Exec were the same hardware and base image!
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Clealry, TomTom employees are a complete bozos, and their management couldn't give a sh*t because they've got your money. No wonder people are so keen to rip them off.

kojiro said:
u can install directly by activesync with WM2005.
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Yes, but the morons f*cked up the code so it won't install to the Storage Card. One CAB doesn't ask, the 2nd CAB asks but ignores your answer. So unless you move everything by hand with File Explorer, that's 3MB of your precious main memory wasted. Don't forget it's your money that's paying them to write that crap.

tomtom xda exec
i cant get voices to work or my bt gps helpppppppppppp ,ripping my hair out ive tried all the socalled fixes but no goooood any help would be really great thx

Help please. New xda mini s and tomtom.

I'm a bit confused here. I have the new xda mini s and tomtom 5 which works fine on my mitac and xda 2. I tried installing on the mini s and it crashes.
My question is simple. Is it a pda or a smartphone. There are version of tomtom for pda and smartphone, but the tomtom site seems to call it a smartphone because of the os. I was more than happy with ppc 2003 and wish it was on the mini s as I don't like the lack of backup in activesync. A major oversight in my opinion. Other than that, I really like the mini s and find it much more usable as a phone than either of my previous xda's.
Any help is appreciated in advance.

It's a PDA and you want TomTom Navigator and NOT TomTom Mobile.

You may want to do a search on tomtom and WM5 in the forum; i remember seeing a few posts on this.

tom tom 5.2
if you do get tom tom 5 you must make sure that you upgrade to version 5.2 however it will not sync with the mini s, so you must do it externally i.e. with a card reader and it will work fine. Hope that this helps. :lol:

Tried all that, now what.
Thanks again for the replies.
I have got to various stages in making it work, the best being to get to the select voice stage whereupon it hangs and does nothing. Soft reset time again. I have read that the voice is in the wrong folder, but where exactly is it suppossed to be. It works if I test it before selecting it. It only hangs when I actually select the voice. I have tried using a reg editor to remove everything, but there is nothing in the registry referring to tomtom when I remove it using the remove programs feature. Several attempts have made no difference.
Is 5.21 the official tomtom patch which is supposed to properly support windows mobile 5 and the xda mini s. In the list of compatible devices there is no mention of the mini s, but the mda vario is there. Is this different somehow?.
I have tried this on my mitac and xda2, but work fine without problems. Its only the mini s which won't have it. Everyone I know also has no problem with PPC and the 5.21 update, only problem being with anyone having a mini s. Have we gone backwards by trying to go forwards.
Other than that, I really like the phone and think it would be the best yet if everything was properly supported. Faster would be nice, but its not bad now I've followed the advice on here and stopped all the crap from loading. As always, thanks in advance for any help.

I have exactly the same problem as you ripz69.
So close to ditching the a to z, but then so far!
Hope someone can help us get it sorted.

5.21 works fine on mine, but the setup.exe doesn't. Had to manually run the four cab files to get it installed.

tomtom 5.21 and mini s
I did that. Installed the cabs manually and it locked up. Installed from the pc and it locked up. Although I haven't done a hard reset, I have scoured the registry and there is nothing in there relating to tomtom after removing it prior to trying another method. Maybe its just mine, but I doubt it.
It can't be just me as my efforts over the last few days have revealed it to be a common problem despite the new release from tomtom supposedly supporting windows mobile 5. Its not the only program to have problems. I have also used a later version of vbar (0.40 instead of 0.23) which works better, and my favoured batmemtime has been replaced with another (less colourfull) version of something which does almost the same thing. Things are much better now except for tomtom.
I have had this thing about a week now and have done a number of hard resets to try different configurations after reading the threads on this site regarding the best ways of making it run at a decent speed. This was easily done before the removal of the backup and restore facility from activesync as it was easy enough to get it back to the state of play before messing with it. I don't understand the reasoning behind the removal of this facility, and know of no other program that allows you to restore the thing to a working state (as reliably as a/sync) without a full re-installation of stuff.
As much as I like it, I see times ahead when I sit here frustrated at yet another crash. I can only hope that Microsoft see the mistake of omitting the restore facility from a/sync and replace it in a future release. I have to say that my confidence in the robustness of windows mobile 5 in the mini s is less than it was in my xda2 or even the 1, mainly because of the a/sync issue.
At the risk of repeating myself yet again, I only wish Psion had entered the pocket pc market as several years with a mine were virtually trouble free. Will it even be the case with Microsoft.
Somehow, I doubt it.
TIA

Re: Tried all that, now what.
ripz69 said:
Thanks again for the replies.
I have got to various stages in making it work, the best being to get to the select voice stage whereupon it hangs and does nothing. .
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i have just come across the same problem, anyone found a fix to this?
cheers

Copy the "TomTom" folder that contains Munich.bin and data.chk (probably several other files as well) from your storage card to the "My Documents folder on the XDA.
This will fix the hanging at voice selection problem.
Make sure you copy not cut the folder though.

This continues to be a big headache for WM5 users
You could try this step by step guide on 4WinMobile

see if this helps, it got 2 people going.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39074

one things need notice, make sure the path in currentmap.dat is same as your map location in your sd. you can use ultraedit-32 check the currentmap.dat and change the map path.

Success
Thanks to all the suggestions, its now working. I seem to have sussed everything including theb bluetooth gps problem. It starts the bluetooth driver when I start tomtom and stops it when I exit. Perfect.
I had to do the reg thing and copy the tomtom folder as seggested, but I'm just glad to see it work. Thanks to all who helped with the brains. I'm so glad I found this place (as is my mate who now has his working too, thanks to what I have learned here).
Now if only Microsoft will give us a proper backup and restore feature for Windows mobile 5. That would be the icing on the cake.
Cheers all.

I give up..........

Well, it looks like I will be disposing of my O2 Mini S because try as I might, I can't get TomTom to work with it.
I've tried a myriad of things from these forums to get it working, but nothing seems to do the trick. I can't even get the software to install properly, let alone run! (And yes, I've dropped the .CAB files on the SD card - three run properly, the 4th tells me it hasn't installed correctly.
I played with the registry - which scares the bejesus out of me to be honest!
I need a PDA that does everything - which to be honest, I thought the Mini S was.
So, I give up. I think I'll go back to my Dell Axim X5!
I think I'll sit in the corner and sulk now!

See ya!
Did you start this thread just to piss and moan, or were you going to tell us what the problem is installing TomTom so we might help? If the former, don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.

rv said:
I think I'll sit in the corner and sulk now!
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As far as I know, no amount of sulking or installing will make tomtom work straight from the dvd. For me, it always crashed on my windows pc, when I launched the program installer (not for the maps, but for the actual tomtom software).
What I HAD to do was download a patched 5.21 from their website. That worked like a charm. I installed tomtom to the main memory and the maps to the storage card. After which there was a voice missing and I had to install any voice with the installer program before being able to complete the tomtom setup wizard on my wizard (heh).
Hope you can make it work. I am running the KJAM rom with push email and other neat stuff. Had to "hack" (unlock) my Finnish Qtec 9100 to make it work.
-JJ