JASJAR / UNIVERSAL - BUGS N TWEAKS - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

JASJAR / UNIVERSAL - BUGS N TWEAKS - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Just thought I would start a forum Dedicated to one location to document any Bugs that are known, and possible solutions. So if you have any known bugs, or if you have known tweaks, please post.
I have only had the JASJAR for 2 days now, and notice the following issues:
1. Significant amounts of my old software that was working on WM2003SE will not run on WM2005 for example:
SPB - The screen short cuts work fine, but the rest doesnt, no tweaks to PIE, no battery status, no "CLOSE" fix. This is a big problem, cause everything you open stays open unless you close it all via running programs.
KSE Fax - didnt work
Resco Explorer - didnt work
MSVC - didnt work, wont uninstall!!
Pocket Dictate - didnt work
Navman SmartST - didnt work, so didnt get to test the GPS port technology.
Flashdash - didnt work, per supplier working on a fix.
PHM Registry editor - didnt work
2. Text messages dont appear to be deleting, they come back on reset
3. Mortgage calculator due to VB Runtime not supported
4. Couldnt activate MS Reader even though its a microsoft product!!
5. No backup software which is a pain when you are installing software to test, and then cant install it, or your not certain its properly uninstalled
6. No VGA output, or cannot locate how to display on alternative screens such as data projectors. I got the back pack with the XDA II, but cannot find an option here.
7. Serious slow downs due to applications not closing
8. Seem to be a problem with the Blue tooth headset activating the voice command when its switched off.
9. calculator is still the basic model, not the advanced version you can get on your PC.
10. Cant find the registry hack to show the date not just the time.
11. Couldnt get avantgo to work.
12. Explorer still takes a very long time to explore the windows directory, and still doesnt allow a properties view on it.
Some of these might be because I simply couldnt be bothered tweaking some of these, or looking at possible fixes.
I can also see some serious memory issues and the need for a good SD card is going to be important. Speaking of which, allows the ability to automatically/select install to SD card, which is a bonus, dont need cabinstall anymore. Even so,
BUT OVERALL, I think its a nice device, only just released, nice and clear screen, great functionality, good WIFI without serious battery drains compared to what I am used to, BT Headset works usually. I am still to get the MMS and GPRS operational, and dont know anybody that can use 3G yet.
Synchronising music with WMP10 is a good feature, and it can be setup to synchronise your videos and pictures I think.
So, what do the rest of you think please list your bug bears, and if you see a fix great, and any suggested tweaks or software that does work on your devices would be great. Hoping for a long and fruitful post of consolidated tweaks and bugs.

resco file explorer on wm5
I upgraded to resco file explorer 2005 (half price if you last purchased 2003 version after 1 yr) . Try that version if the 2003 version does not work.

some of the stuff mentioned are not really bugs (resco explorer 2k3 works for me,slowdowns because of multiple apps running-> you need a task manager for this)
right now, I'm still waiting if this will ever support USB hosting (but I doubt if it is). I'm quite confuse with how tekguru came up with the conclusion that Universal can act as USB host. i tried inserting an external harddisk using the stock usb cable+female usb A+usb A, nothing happens

hey
i beg to differ...
the phm registry works just fine..
ive tweaked the date and time into the top bar thru registry
ive also changed the calendar softkey on the screen to run and display file explorer
resco explorer 2005 works just not the network part of it...
spb pocketplus with battery bar at the top of the screen works aswell

WM2005 Tweaks n bugs
Thats interesting, I will try to download updated versions then rather than those kept in my library and try again and will advise.
Does the "close" operation on SPB work ok?
Where did you locate the registry tweak?
I think I was using Resco 2003, a few have noted 2005 works ok.
Cheers

for closing app i bought this application called handyswitcher... i also know the close app in wisbar advance 2 also works i havent tried spb close app button..since i have the other two

spb 3
I downlaod and installed spb3. it seems to slow this thing down, but it does have the task manager.
the biggest bug I have is with skype, it just closes down suddenly?

magic button task manager is lightweight and its freeware. I'm having problems with WA2, I'll just install it later when a more stable build for wm5 will be available

avantgo installation
I have found that u can install Avantgo by doing the following:
1. Go to Avantgo website
2. Register
3. Download old wince version
4. install it on pc with pda connected and activesync active
5. upgrade to pocketpc version
6. do an activesync syncing (after choosing ur free channels)
thats it, u get avantgo on your system, but beware, it takes internal disk space...
Greetings
Nabil H
PS I guess M$ removed Avantgo from Rom because it offers now pocketmsn on universal and Avantgo competes with it, the old IE/Netscape story...

Can i ask you poeple with the new EXEC, or branded version, Looking at the pictures the microphone and speaker are on the same side as the LCD screen. If its closed (like a laptop) do you need to open it and spin the LCD round (like a tablet PC) in order to use it as a phone for a voice call
Thanks John

applecom said:
Can i ask you poeple with the new EXEC, or branded version, Looking at the pictures the microphone and speaker are on the same side as the LCD screen. If its closed (like a laptop) do you need to open it and spin the LCD round (like a tablet PC) in order to use it as a phone for a voice call
Thanks John
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you dont need to open the lid. there's a Send/End call button at the side to make the call. problem is you dont have a way of knowing who's calling. that's where jabra bt800 or akon hbh660 BT headsets come in handy

thanks for the reply GM, that makes sence to use a Bt headset that shows caller ID, But as to answering it with the external buttons, and if the thing is closed wuth the screen inside, cam you hear the caller if you dont have a headset

applecom said:
thanks for the reply GM, that makes sence to use a Bt headset that shows caller ID, But as to answering it with the external buttons, and if the thing is closed wuth the screen inside, cam you hear the caller if you dont have a headset
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yes.

gm said:
some of the stuff mentioned are not really bugs (resco explorer 2k3 works for me,slowdowns because of multiple apps running-> you need a task manager for this)
right now, I'm still waiting if this will ever support USB hosting (but I doubt if it is). I'm quite confuse with how tekguru came up with the conclusion that Universal can act as USB host. i tried inserting an external harddisk using the stock usb cable+female usb A+usb A, nothing happens
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Tekguru didn't come up with it - quite the opposite in fact. But he reported that ANOTHER site was reporting it worked

Microsoft Voice Command 1.5 has issues... it requires a manual install using the .cab file and seems to mostly work but causes problems with WM5.. and it won't uninstall.
also, I have found that you cannot copy text from a note and paste it into the body of an email using the tap and hold method. you must press fn+space bar to do it... this is a bug in WM5.

applecom said:
thanks for the reply GM, that makes sence to use a Bt headset that shows caller ID, But as to answering it with the external buttons, and if the thing is closed wuth the screen inside, cam you hear the caller if you dont have a headset
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You can hear the caller anouncement with voice command installed.

the skype issue is caused by active sync
active sync turns itself on non-stop, I am constantly having to return to running programs and turn it off. skype needs memory, so it crashes when active sync is running.
Is there a registry tweak to stop the 'auto-on' feature of skype?
as for spb3, it does slow this down and make it buggy. I am losing it.

can't you just turn off auto sych into your AS?

NO Announcement with incoming calls. Its so low you cant hear sh..

no turning off active sync in options
the 'option' to turn off is simply gone.

Related

XDA II: Closed Applications Still Running In Memory

Open an application, for example, Internet Explorer and then close it.
Next, check out the applications running in memory:
Settings-> System-> Memory-> Running Programs
Internet Explorer is apparently still running in memory! Is this a known bug and if so, is there a work around as I would expect this to affect the performance.
Also note this happened before and after the ROM 1.60 Upgrade.

it's been like that from the first version of windows CE
i suppose that because of slow cpu and mem
and such ms believed that keeping the applications running
would inc the response time of the pda so they would not
seem slugish compared to palm and other pda os's

This is a Windows Mobile 2003 'feature' :roll:
There are programs available to close the program down completely.
I have my personal favourite, by far, and is completely free. I can't remember the name of it and I'm currently updating my ROM, but as soon as that's done, I'll look in ActiveSync and let you know.

chopper32uk said:
Open an application, for example, Internet Explorer and then close it.
Next, check out the applications running in memory:
Settings-> System-> Memory-> Running Programs
Internet Explorer is apparently still running in memory! Is this a known bug and if so, is there a work around as I would expect this to affect the performance.
Also note this happened before and after the ROM 1.60 Upgrade.
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Certainly one of the thing's that I've found since the recent XDAII ROM update is that closing apps down via the Tast Manager has caused the OS to crash out with the message 'A unhandled error has occurred in the shell.' type message (has only happened a couple of times). The only way forward from this is a soft reset.
Nutz

Hi,
How are you trying to exit the programs that this happens to ? It could be that instead of clicking what you think is the close button, you are actually clicking the Today Screen icon ?
As regards Task Managers, the best I have come across and use all the time is PocketNav. Here is a link for it.
http://www.scottandmichelle.net/scott/cestuff.html
This app allows you to see currently running programs and flip between them with ease. You can also close or close all programs from this menu too.
Hope this helps.
Rgds,
Rob.

WisBar Advance
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/wisbar
Highly recommended, very small memory footprint, very fast and highly customizable. Oh, and FREE. If you get it, make sure you download an XP skin. Don't use the bundled ones
EDIT: Just so you know, it doesn't officially support Phone Edition. To turn the phone on/off via the taskbar, you have to close WisBar to access the icon.

Rob_B said:
Hi,
How are you trying to exit the programs that this happens to ?
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I'm just using the O2 Active Task Manager (the little arrow on the bottom of the screen) that comes by default with the OS (haven't got round yet to installing a decent Task Manager - will check out the suggestions made here!).
Nutz

WisBar Advance is one of the better ones that I've used but I will not give PocketNav a go, as there is a HUGE problem with WisBar and the XDAII.
Once you recive a call and access a notification (missed call, SMS things like that). You will not be able to recive any calls after that, if you ring your XDAII from another phone it actualy rings on the other phone but the XDA II does not register the call at all (as though no call is even being placed!!!, no missed call, no error messages NOTHING!!!)
I loved WisBar untill I've narrowed the problem down of not reciving calls to uninstalling or exiting WisBar and doing a softreset and never had the problems again...
Most other task managers I've found seem to have problems with the Phone Edition, cannot hide the Phone ID Program, cant close the Phone after it has been opend, phone keeps ringing over and over a gain even though there is not incomming calls... all are a few problems I have found with other Task managers I've tried... I will give that PocketNav a go and see how it works with phone edition...

I have tested most task managers under Phone Edition and my conclusion is that SBP's Pocket Plus is THEone...
It actually let's you see the notification area just as it's meant to be and it let's you exclude applications so they don't close but minimize (perfect for IA_Caller_Id.exe)
Best regards,
Rayan

Do you know of any freeware ones that are worth while?

Spb Pocket Plus 2.5

Does Spb Pocket Plus 2.5 working well on a Magician?

ovsoft said:
Does Spb Pocket Plus 2.5 working well on a Magician?
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Yes it does...running PP 2.5 till it came out without problems.
Regards,
Primoz

Woks well, except one little thing - the BT icon in the tray dissapears after a soft reset. Anyone solved this?

Other have similar problems?

Gevor said:
Woks well, except one little thing - the BT icon in the tray dissapears after a soft reset. Anyone solved this?
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I had this problem with Calendar Plus. BT went totally unreliable and I would get "bluetooth not found" errors. Ended up removing Calendar Plus and all was good again.
Ian

ianwood,
Well, I have problems with an icon only. The bluetooth itself is working fine. I was reinstalling everything today after a hard reset and was specifically waching for that issue. After installing Pocket plus the BT icon disapeared.

@Gevor
Did a clean install last weekend.
Also SPB Pocket Plus 2.5 build 2084
Still have the Bluetooth icon in the corner (did a few resets also)
So nothing wrong overhere
MDA II
Qtek rom (RUU172602WWE_Belgian_Shipping.exe)
T-Mobile radio stack 1.17 (HI_TMNL_17200_190_11700_Ship.exe)
Tuurtje

porblems at Pocketplus
there are some problems with pocketplus running on xda2 and mini..
you will not be able to see the storage card indicators as it has bugs in it. that's why SPB has disabled them (this is what i read from their website forum spbsoftwarehouse.com)
BT icon gone? have a read at pocket breeze website forum. this is how you overcome this problem:
There is a workaround for this problem.
It's not pretty, it requires hacking the registry, but it works.
I found it at http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthr...7403#post397403, but had to make a slight adjustment.
I assume that you know
- How to install form a CAB file
- How to create and edit a shortcut on your Pocket PC
- How to edit the registry on your Pocket PC
Ready? Here we go:
1) Download NoPluginsToday (you'll most likely want the ARM version) from http://www.ictinus.com/NoPluginsToday/
2) Install the CAB somewhere. Make sure you know the exact location of NoPluginsToday.exe (e.g. \Storage\NoPluginsToday\NoPluginsToday.exe)
3) Create a shortcut to NoPluginsToday.exe in \Windows\Startup. Name this shortcut ZzzNoPluginsToday, so that it is last in the list of shortcuts to be launched.
4) Start a registry editor, and go to HKLM\init. Look for keys named LaunchXX. You'll want to create a new String key named LaunchYY, where YY is a bigger number than any of the XX you found. I created Launch99. The value for LaunchYY is the exact location of NoPluginsToday.exe (e.g. \Storage\NoPluginsToday\NoPluginsToday.exe) you looked up earlier.
Now you're set! Do a soft reset, and see your Bluetooth icon again! You'll notice your startup time may be a little longer.
How does it work?
The BT icon disappears because of a timeout issue when loading plugins.
We solve this by using NoPluginsToday, which switches all Today plugins off, remembers the settings, and reactivates them the next time it is executed.
By calling NoPluginsToday twice, once via the registry (early) and then again via \Windows\Startup (late), we "postpone" the loading of Today plugins until after the BT icon has been activated. That's your longer startup time for you.
Hope this helps!
cheers,

sheggario
Thanks for the tip, will try it out.

Been running PocketPlus 2.x on my Qtek S100 since the day I got it and no problems with the BT icon so far.

Same here .. PPlus2.5 on a Qtek s100 since they started to deliver them in Sweden..
Np at all ..
Be sure U run latest build..
Maybe its the rom in our qteks that makes it work... ??
Carlis

running Pocket Plus 2.5 since a few days.
no problem at all with BT icon.
Just missing Storage Card icon on Today screen.
Changed register with regedit (as posted on the Pocket Plus 2.2 thread) and now i have my storage card icon on the desktop.

can you post the link for the thread you mentioned. TIA

Here you go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=68780#68780

thanks

applications

Is there a list of apps that are perfectly compatible with the ameo?
I have tried a few apps and utils such as wisbar advance and spb mobile shell but they seem to have side-effects which alter the the ameo's reliability.
I even had an issue where the camera wouldnt load while spb mobile shell was installed.
So if anybody knows what software best compliment the ameo please let me know!

Smartstradamus said:
Is there a list of apps that are perfectly compatible with the ameo?
I have tried a few apps and utils such as wisbar advance and spb mobile shell but they seem to have side-effects which alter the the ameo's reliability.
I even had an issue where the camera wouldnt load while spb mobile shell was installed.
So if anybody knows what software best compliment the ameo please let me know!
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on my side I am happy with the test with Pocket Informant, pocket slides.
Bad expertise with pocket hack master. Times bad expertise with the print software coming with the device, I think is due the wifi is a little special on athena.
Resco explorer last version creates problems -I think is due too much options on network- managing files in other network computers.
Expensepro runs fine, except the problem with the screen if you rotate it.
About hw, I own a jabra bt8010 and no caller id support, I think is a problem of the bluetooth stack that jetware doesn't solve.

Smartstradamus said:
Is there a list of apps that are perfectly compatible with the ameo?
I have tried a few apps and utils such as wisbar advance and spb mobile shell but they seem to have side-effects which alter the the ameo's reliability.
I even had an issue where the camera wouldnt load while spb mobile shell was installed.
So if anybody knows what software best compliment the ameo please let me know!
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I have manage to quite a lot of programs working, yes some have bug and side effect, but there is always a solution to it. Pocket hack master works too. Actually you will find most of the good application out there works fine with Ameo, there is only very small amount that doesn't work

functional applications...
The following is a list of programs that I've installed on my x7500 which haven't yeilded any problems:
- Vito Audio Notes
- CorePlayer
- PocketXMRadio
- SlingPlayer Mobile
- IM+
- pRSSreader
- Sniffi
- WiFiFoFum2
- WM6 Remote Desktop
- Google Maps (just haven't gotten the GPS to work on it)
- Microsoft Live Search
- Pocket Informant
- eWallet
- AE Button Plus
- Check Notifications (I think this caused ActiveSync to stop working so I would caution against installing this)
- Magic Button
- Resco File Explorer/RegistryAddon/FTP Addon
- SmallMenu Plus
- Total Commander
- VGAToggle (buggy aesthetics but no system issues as of yet)
- VJBigPhoner
- Gentimer (just installed and testing still)
Edit #1: Just installed 'HIMILAYA WM2k5 Screen Rotate Fix v1.1' which so far works as expected.
Let me know if you need specific versions for any listed items.

wu5262 said:
I have manage to quite a lot of programs working, yes some have bug and side effect, but there is always a solution to it. Pocket hack master works too. Actually you will find most of the good application out there works fine with Ameo, there is only very small amount that doesn't work
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maybe you made some special thing, maybe related other sw in your athena, with it. In my case extend aditional seconds the startup and frozen it. Tested all the possible configurations of speed and memory.
For me this program doesn't provide any help on speed or performance except nice rings when start -if doesn't frozen-. Previously, in my universal it was great, but not in x7500, but obviously is my case...

beginner said:
maybe you made some special thing, maybe related other sw in your athena, with it. In my case extend aditional seconds the startup and frozen it. Tested all the possible configurations of speed and memory.
For me this program doesn't provide any help on speed or performance except nice rings when start -if doesn't frozen-. Previously, in my universal it was great, but not in x7500, but obviously is my case...
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you must disable internal auto scale.....

wu5262 said:
you must disable internal auto scale.....
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pocket hack master disable automatically all the extensions, did you make it yourself?

beginner said:
pocket hack master disable automatically all the extensions, did you make it yourself?
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no, you just need to go to setting to disable internel scale, pretty simple

wu5262 said:
no, you just need to go to setting to disable internel scale, pretty simple
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mine hasn't that option (or I can't find it). It is htc x7500 and local language. Rom is 1.25.412.2. I think it manages automatically the performance under battery and not needed aditional magmt.

beginner said:
mine hasn't that option (or I can't find it). It is htc x7500 and local language. Rom is 1.25.412.2. I think it manages automatically the performance under battery and not needed aditional magmt.
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i'ts the PHM setting not the device setting.

wu5262 said:
i'ts the PHM setting not the device setting.
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ufff ... thanks. sorry I look stupid.

beginner said:
ufff ... thanks. sorry I look stupid.
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no worry, good luck with your CPU scaling, report back the result pls

ltxda said:
The following is a list of programs that I've installed on my x7500 which haven't yeilded any problems:
- Vito Audio Notes
- CorePlayer
- PocketXMRadio
- SlingPlayer Mobile
- IM+
- pRSSreader
- Sniffi
- WiFiFoFum2
- WM6 Remote Desktop
- Google Maps (just haven't gotten the GPS to work on it)
- Microsoft Live Search
- Pocket Informant
- eWallet
- AE Button Plus
- Check Notifications (I think this caused ActiveSync to stop working so I would caution against installing this)
- Magic Button
- Resco File Explorer/RegistryAddon/FTP Addon
- SmallMenu Plus
- Total Commander
- VGAToggle (buggy aesthetics but no system issues as of yet)
- VJBigPhoner
- Gentimer (just installed and testing still)
Let me know if you need specific versions for any listed items.
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thanks for the replies
Are the apps above all the latest versions?

Smartstradamus said:
thanks for the replies
Are the apps above all the latest versions?
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Don't think so. Let me know if you're interested in knowing the version of any app in particular.

Wifi troubles
I don't know if this is your case but since I replaced the jasjar with HTC I have at home wifi network access problems some times. It navigates by internet without issues but when I try to access to other pc disks shared times it sees and times not.
Some infraestructure -pc, access points, ..., no changes-
with the last version of resco explorer was impossible to share information with other pc, with the previous one is intermitent. And same problem with the software for printing in the network, times see the shared resources and times not.

beginner said:
with the last version of resco explorer was impossible to share information with other pc, with the previous one is intermitent. And same problem with the software for printing in the network, times see the shared resources and times not.
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I'm using Resco Explorer 2005 and having no problems using WLAN shared drive etc (other than it not remembering the password for my NAS but it always did that.)

Phoenix Studio 1.1 works, but you need to make sure you're in portrait mode and exit it before attaching the keyboard, otherwise touchscreen input goes a bit wrong and you'll have to exit the application by starting another one and going to the "Running Programs" panel.
Sounds good, too, with the speakers in the Ameo!
Pocket Commodore Plus4 works quite nicely on it for BASIC, but the emulation drops to cripplingly slow speeds when any input is used - shameful for what should be one of the fastest devices on the market.

***NOOB WITH A JAMin*%#$%#$%$#%$#%$#%$#%$#%#

Hi guys,
Recently i have just purchased a brand new I-MATE jamin...i have been using it for over a week and have noticed a few things...
In the instructions manual it makes reference to some additional programs such as "skype" , "smart dialer" and "clearVUE pdf reader"....however when i recieved my phone, it did not come with these applications....any suggestions?
Also i have noticed that the included battery only lasts for MAX of 1 and a half days of normal usage...i dont use WIFI or BLUETOOTH often...just mainly use it as a phone..also the screen brightness is adjusted to the 2nd lowest scale...is the battery use normal ??? Also is it safe to buy one of those after market batteries from ebay as use it as a secondary battery????
Also i have read from various sources that the ROM of the jamin can be upgraded, although i have no idea how to do so..can anyone point me in the right direction? At the moment the specs of my JAMin are:
Rom version: 2.13.9.23 WWE
ROM date: 2/23/06
Radio version: 1_02.20.21
Protocol version: 4.1.13.9
IPL: 2.13.0001
SPL: 2.13.0001
I have no clue as to what the numbers mean except for the ROM...can anyone please tell me what the other numbers such as IPL and SPL mean? Also can anyone suggest any ROMs??
Sorry for so many questions...i am truly a noob with a JAMin...
thanks guys

YOU NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE READING AND A LITTLE LESS ASKING
just kidding.... welcome to the forum... No n00b bashing from me...
coz then I'd have to bash myself too
1. You can download skype from the skype website - try it if you have friends that use skype.
I haven't bothered as it takes a lot of CPU, and I think it can only use the headset or the speaker on the back of the phone.
You can download clearvue pdf reader, but I prefer adobe reader lite...
smartdial AFAIK is just what happens when you are typing a number to call, and the phone picks out matching contacts before you finish typing.
2. yeah, battery is lame. Go and live next door to a mobile phone transmitter, that will help
Seriously a lot of people get a spare battery, you could try underclocking the phone using "batterystatus", but then you will lose speed.
Make sure you have the power setting to turn off when not used (it still receives calls)
3. yes you can upgrade wm6 is shiny and new but there are bugs reported in pretty much every WM6 ROM so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310452
I'm using TNT professional right now, it's pretty nice.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330289
ipl=initial program loader
spl=secondary program loader
this is the bootloader, this runs before Windows loads up.
Sometimes if there is a problem upgrading you can fix it by writing a new ROM in bootloader mode
from the wiki
(http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Prophet)
[one of the] ways to enter the bootloader on the Prophet:
Hold down the camera button and reset the device. (Boot Loader Mode is: Press Camera + Soft Reset, then release soft reset and keep pressing camera button till appear the Boot Loader.)
This will start the bootloader, and red/green/blue colour bands will be displayed on the device.
Once the colour bands are displayed you can connect to the device via USB.
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triplejay said:
YOU NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE READING AND A LITTLE LESS ASKING
just kidding.... welcome to the forum... No n00b bashing from me...
coz then I'd have to bash myself too
1. You can download skype from the skype website - try it if you have friends that use skype.
I haven't bothered as it takes a lot of CPU, and I think it can only use the headset or the speaker on the back of the phone.
You can download clearvue pdf reader, but I prefer adobe reader lite...
smartdial AFAIK is just what happens when you are typing a number to call, and the phone picks out matching contacts before you finish typing.
2. yeah, battery is lame. Go and live next door to a mobile phone transmitter, that will help
Seriously a lot of people get a spare battery, you could try underclocking the phone using "batterystatus", but then you will lose speed.
Make sure you have the power setting to turn off when not used (it still receives calls)
3. yes you can upgrade wm6 is shiny and new but there are bugs reported in pretty much every WM6 ROM so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310452
I'm using TNT professional right now, it's pretty nice.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330289
ipl=initial program loader
spl=secondary program loader
this is the bootloader, this runs before Windows loads up.
Sometimes if there is a problem upgrading you can fix it by writing a new ROM in bootloader mode
from the wiki
(http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Prophet)
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THanks for the reply triplejay,
As far as i know, my JAMin doesn't come with smartdialer at all!!! When i dial numbers, it doesnt match any of them before i finish typing!! Could this be due to the version of my ROM??
Also with regards to ROMs, is it better to upgrade to a newer ORIGINAL ROM (ie. a ROM date is made by I-MATE) or should I upgrade to one of the "aftermarket ROMs found on this website?

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As far as i know, my JAMin doesn't come with smartdialer at all!!! When i dial numbers, it doesnt match any of them before i finish typing!! Could this be due to the version of my ROM??
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could be, not too sure about smartdial to be honest
JAMinGUY said:
Also with regards to ROMs, is it better to upgrade to a newer ORIGINAL ROM (ie. a ROM date is made by I-MATE) or should I upgrade to one of the "aftermarket ROMs found on this website?
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well, if you depend on your phone for work or anything, I'd suggest sticking with an official ROM for now. If you don't mind the odd bug*, then join the "aftermarket" club!
*e.g. bluetooth stereo headsets work with good quality on the newest ROMS, however every time I reset the phone I have to re-pair the headset with it.
Internet works well, good integration of Windows Live, however, sometimes after a reset I have to re-confirm the internet settings for it to work.
Those are the only two I've experienced with this ROM (TNT)
You might want to wait a bit, newer ROMS are coming I think, maybe without these bugs...
I attach an example of my today screen on WM6

Hi triple jay,
Your today screen looks totally different to mine...mine is still the original WM 5.0 screen...just wondering, did you make your today screen look like that by just installing the TNT ROM? Or do you have any other programs installed such as WISBAR..
Also after a week of use, i have noticed the BACK SPEAKER of my JAMin to distort occassionally when playing ringtones (set on the HIGHEST sound level)...is my speaker faulty???
Thanks for your help mate

Hi,
1. The lack of application could be due to lack of customization on your unit and it is just a generic wm5 rom. I would suggest a hard reset (not soft but hard reset) , then press the green send button to erase all the data on your handset. Then wait around 3 seconds after the reboot has finished and customization will commence.
2. The speaker most certainly sounds like it has problems, quite common and it will probably fail. They are cheap to purchase off ebay however installation is quite a bit of work.

Hi, regarding my today screen; no Wisbar, I just have Batterystatus installed, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=270751,
that's the bottom line u can see there
the rest came with the TNT ROM
The bit above batterystatus where it says "sync" is windows live,
then above that is the htc homeplug (part of the ROM) with custom icons (not made by me)!
Reading the forums, I think quite a lot of people have had troubles with the speaker...
but I just checked mine and it seems to distort a bit on the very loudest setting too, at least with MP3s.
Like grimmy said, installation of a new one is quite a bit of work though so prob. not worth it unless it dies completely....

Hi triplejay,
I have decided not to tamper around with my ROM just yet until i am familiar with the various available ROMs.
I have instead decided to install some today screen plugins such as wisbar,spb pocket plus etc etc . Do you have any suggestions of TODAY screen plugins that don't slow my JAMin down? I have heard that SPB slows the JAMin down and also has some program compatibility issues.
Thanks

Before I updated my ROM I used to use SPB mobile shell, and SPB pocket plus.
There's no denying they take up a lot of space on your device though,
Speed wise, any slowdown seemed negligable, but then I had overclocked from day 1 so that prob. helped.
I haven't tried the latest wisbar, but the older versions I did try seemed quite good. Might try the new version out actually.
There are some freeware alternatives;
claunch is an older one
http://home.pacific.net.sg/~welic/claunch.html
https://sourceforge.net/projects/claunch/
rltoday is pretty cool
http://rotlaus-software.de/
lots of good user made skins on their site
http://rotlaus-software.de/forum/viewforum.php?id=5
I listen to a lot of music so the other thing I used to use was a plug-in that showed media player on the today screen,
e.g. the one at the bottom of this post or the newer HTC one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1318018&postcount=14

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Before I updated my ROM I used to use SPB mobile shell, and SPB pocket plus.
There's no denying they take up a lot of space on your device though,
Speed wise, any slowdown seemed negligable, but then I had overclocked from day 1 so that prob. helped.
I haven't tried the latest wisbar, but the older versions I did try seemed quite good. Might try the new version out actually.
There are some freeware alternatives;
claunch is an older one
http://home.pacific.net.sg/~welic/claunch.html
https://sourceforge.net/projects/claunch/
rltoday is pretty cool
http://rotlaus-software.de/
lots of good user made skins on their site
http://rotlaus-software.de/forum/viewforum.php?id=5
I listen to a lot of music so the other thing I used to use was a plug-in that showed media player on the today screen,
e.g. the one at the bottom of this post or the newer HTC one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1318018&postcount=14
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Hi triplejay,
In regards to using SPB mobile shell, and SPB pocket plus, did you install these programs into your JAMin's phone storage memory or on the SD card? I have heard that installing programs into the phone's SD card causes the programs to run slower because the phone needs time to access the programs..and also how did these programs affect your memory?? used up alot of memory ?? Also would I still be able to set my own today backgrounds using these programs or can i only use the themes designed for these programs???
thanks for your help, your posts have been a lot of help to a newbie like myself

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Hi triplejay,
In regards to using SPB mobile shell, and SPB pocket plus, did you install these programs into your JAMin's phone storage memory or on the SD card? I have heard that installing programs into the phone's SD card causes the programs to run slower because the phone needs time to access the programs..and also how did these programs affect your memory?? used up alot of memory ?? Also would I still be able to set my own today backgrounds using these programs or can i only use the themes designed for these programs???
thanks for your help, your posts have been a lot of help to a newbie like myself
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no problem
I don't think SPB mobile shell gives the option to install to SD card, it's possible with Pocket Plus but not recommended, even by SPB.
I remember reading the following on the SPB site,
and after that always installing stuff that involves the today screen or system to main storage...
We strongly recommend that you not install Spb Pocket Plus to a storage card because storage card drivers can be loaded with up to a 5 second delay after system restart and important files will not be available for loading. One other reason is that Spb Pocket Plus is a system utility and some of its components run in the background. If you remove the storage card Spb Pocket Plus will not be able to load its resources.
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...so the space they take up, is on the device and yes it is a fair amount of memory, maybe a fifth of available memory or something... (not sure)
you should be able to use your own pic for the background with all these I think,
the SPB extended themes for example, will set new system colours etc, with a matching background that you can change as normal.

Hi triplejay,
I have downloaded the trial versions of both SPB pocket plus and mobile shell and will install tonight and let you know how it goes...
Although i still have a couple of questions...
Backup programs such as SKTOOLS or sprite backup...should these be installed into the phone's SD card or the phone's memory ?? Also where should i install games????
Also does anyone know the date of the newest official ROM for the imate JAMin?? I have searched the imate site to no avail...
thanks guys

hey, JAMinGUY,
about the latest imate ROM, I wouldn't know, but looking at this blog post from menneisyys;
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/in..._finding_identifying_the&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
and then checking ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/
leads me to believe that the newest available is :
ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/JAMin_WWE_213923_2139123_022021_ship.zip
Could be wrong, just seems to make sense...
I would say definitely put games on the SD card, I've got my backup program (SPB backup) installed on SD too...
the only thing that I would be unsure of is SKtools, but it doesn't seem to run at startup, or run in the background,
so i would say it's probably OK to install to card as well.
...Unless if you did something like ran it off the card, then used it to format the card your running it off. That probably wouldn't be good, lol.

hey guys,
i have been using SPB POCKET PLUS AND SPB MOBILE SHELL (both installed in system memory) for a week now and have noticed some things....
the phone seems slower to respond to screen taps...and also when i lock the phone, sometimes i can't unlock it...i need to soft reset it....
triplejay, do u know of any programs similar to SPB POCKET PLUS that dont have these freezing issues???
cheers mate

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hey guys,
triplejay, do u know of any programs similar to SPB POCKET PLUS that dont have these freezing issues???
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unfortunately not really ...
if u haven't already tried rltoday though, that could be worth a go.
Resco explorer comes with a today plugin, but it's a bit gay, just a few icons, but resco explorer itself is quite good, try the demo if u havent already....
and a couple of threads below this one you will find the htc homeplug (for wm5), personally that homeplug together with batterystatus have filled all my own shortcut related needs....

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