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'Phone' always off after reboot on my Vario II

Hi,
Lately the phone side of my T-Mobile Vario II is alays off after I turn it off and then on. I have to manually start it from the Comms Manager.
It was fine when I first got it.
Any ideas? Is there a Registry setting I can check?
Thanks.

Hi,
I have the same problem too. Hope sombody can find a solution to it.
cheers

Make comm manager an exception in whatever task manager (magic button, InClose, ....) you have installed.

I have the same problem and I don't have any of the task managers installed....

Same issue here. It doesn't seem to be related to close app exception lists either since mine only recently started exhibiting this issue and I've had spb pocket plus installed since I upgraded to the 1.31 Cingular ROM with no close exceptions defined. My first TyTN started doing it too.
Interestingly, pressing reset doesn't have the same effect: the radio comes right up then. Every night spb backup plus resets my device after the backup and I've never had an issue. Therefore, I believe it has something to do with the power-off shutdown process itself. In support of this, I've noticed that when I press "Yes" on the shutdown dialog, the first thing that happens is the radio shuts off. Then, about 5 seconds later the device shuts off.
What I've done so far is to add Conmgr.exe to SPB pocket plus' close app exception list. I'll see if this affects anything. IIRC there were a few more apps that needed adding too. I'm hunting those down right now.
edit:
hmmm.... after adding conmgr.exe to the close exception list, the phone came right up when I tried a powercycle. Either this fixes it or its intermittent. Perhaps spb does an explicit close on all open apps when you try to power off and this is somehow affecting the phone mode when conmgr starts back up.

Hi, are you all referring to flight mode being on when the phone reboots?
I know I have had an issue where after I install some apps that when I reboot flight mode will be on, and it will keep doing this, I also noticed that if I just soft reset it wouldn't happen, the trick I have found to get it workin again was to use the always on settings with the fit4cat tweaker, and usually once or a couple times of setting like gprs always on of off, and a softresetting that it will fix the flight mode being on problem...I'm not sure if you all are talkin about the same thing and this really isn't pinpointing the fix, but I thought this info might help atleast one persons aggrivation..cause I'm sure I can't be the only one with the flight mode problem.
I don't use spb btw, well I use spb backup, but have had the problem arise after I installed wmirc and netfront for example.
I never use the comm manager, I just click the signal by the time in the taskbar and it says flight mode is on, I just realized it is likely the same problem.
edit: I had the problem arise again and can't figure out how to fix it, even tried a registry restore.

Not a Fix but a Working Solution
I started having the issue of the radio being off on startup a few weeks ago.
So I invested($10) in a copy of SK Softwares Scheduling Manager SKScheMa.
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sksc..._skschema.html
This has a powerful scripting language and one of the script commands is "GPRS on"
I created a shortcut in the startup folder to a GPRS On script. and since then I have had no more problems.

Another workaround (free)
This problem recently started to affect my Cing 8525, as well. I don't know if this has been already resolved, but my solution was to DL this little freebee named FlightMode v1.1.0 (Thanks to Cristiano Severini) from here:
http://www .winmobileapps.com /device/pocketpc/fm/fm .aspx
I've only tested it so far with one reboot, but it seems to work around whatever bug there is in WM5 ... as long as you don't mind CommManager flashing on the screen for an instant at bootup, and then having it running in the background (too bad it doesn't do a full close of CM).
I installed this app, and then created a shortcut and placed it into the \Windows\Startup directory. Seems to do the trick nicely.
Hope you find it useful.
[EDIT: Further tests have shown me that Comm Manager does NOT flash on the screen briefly, nor remain loaded. Seems that had something to do with PhoneAlarm, instead. Personally, I think this might be a good solution to this particular problem.]
[EDIT2: Ok, further tests of Fightmode showed me that this was merely a toggle, and in cases where the phone was ON after a reboot, Flightmode shut it off. Nice little program, but this issue made me look at the SKScheMa mentioned by paulbacik. What a powerful tool! I agree, that $9.60US is a bit expensive just to have the phone/radio on after a reboot, but I feel this app has some wonderful potential. So I plunked down the cash and registered it after a day of testing. Does the trick VERY nicely! Thanks Paul!]

Aha... I think I have found the problem...
Ms Voice Command v1.60 does it for me. As soon as I install it the phone won't start at boot up. Remove it and the problem is gone.
Wonder if everyone else with this problem has VC installed.

Nope ... not VC
Thanks for the attempt, Essef, but VC is one of the few apps I haven't (yet) installed. I'm leaning towards it being related to (in my case) Wi-Fi Compnion. I'm going to reinstall that this weekend, and see if my problem resurfaces. Hopefully not, since I like the app (and paid for it).
FWIW, I am also now using the SK ScheMa "fix", and I like it a lot. It never fails on startup, and I aim to use it ... and PPL a lot to customize/personalize my 8525.
Best regards,
-pvs
[UPDATE] OK, so far, so good. I reinstalled Wi-Fi Companion last night, and it worked pretty well. Actually, my 8525 froze the first time, and I needed to hard-reset (thank GOD for SPB Backup!). But, not being one who gives-up easily, I tried it again, and it installed flawlessly. I've been using it on-and-off today, and so far, my phone still boots without the "The Operation Failed" error messages I was seeing before. Mind you, I have done quite a bit of tinkering since the last time I had the problem, going from ROM version 1.34.502.1 to 2.06.502.3 after SuperCIDing and SIM Unlocking the device, so maybe all of this stuff made a difference.
At any rate, I will post to this thread again should anything change with regard to this issue.
-pvs
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After a bit of experimention I found a fix for Voice Command causing this on my Jasjam.
It seemed to occur as soon as I assigned VC to the 5th button (which was Cyberon's Voice Dialer) - then no radio after reboot.
So I tried removing the sddaemon shortcut in the startup folder (this starts the Cyberon service), rebooted then assigned VC to button 5 and now the radio satrts everytime I reboot.
I guess with the Cyberon service running and assigned to button 5, reassigning the button caused the device to get confused and not start the radio.

8125: phone goes into hibernate and wont come out

well ...
just like the title states my 8125 will go into hibernate mode and whne i go to power it back up it wont. the service light is still flashing but the screen will not appear..
anyone have a solution ?

Had the same problem on and off. Upgraded to 2.26 and have not had the problem since.

and how do i go about doing that?
is it a hard procedure? amd is it easy to screw up?
i did a hard reset on the device and the problem went away, then after about a month or 2 of use again it seems to have started happening.

I had that problem after I installed the test bluetooth stack... probably a memory leak issue...

anyone have suggestion what i should do ?

I had the same problem too.. I installed Memmaid, and checked the notifications queue. There was a program I installed which placed itself to run when the device woke up.. When I deleted it the problem was solved. But be careful, just delete 3rd party software entries. I guess this is easier than uninstallling them one by one. After spotting the problematic software, you can consider uninstalling it. Hope this helps.

well, you did do a hard reset right? That should tell you what software you installed that caused this, that is if you do your app installation one by one...
Another advice given to me is to get a task manager and monitor if any process/app take up too much memory..

the only apps i have installed are:
SPB Pocket Plus
SPB Weather
MemMAID
Resco Photo Viewer
Batti
Smartskey
Eten Dialer Skin
NFpencil - some nothing drawing/sketch application
it gets really annoying, when i do a soft reset it starts off with 22mb of memory by the end of the day or next morning its down to 18-17-16mb which is usually when it would freeze.

Missing Settings

Every now and then i open activesync on my JasJam to see if my servers updated and last sync would be a 12 hours to a day before. So i go to Settings-Connections only to notice a lot of items are missing in all the settings menus. Sometimes a single soft-reset doesn't restore them, but multiple soft resets does. If you don't understand what i mean check out the attached screenshots.
I would post my rom info but the Device Information is missing from System-System! Get what mean?

fone_fanatic said:
Every now and then i open activesync on my JasJam to see if my servers updated and last sync would be a 12 hours to a day before. So i go to Settings-Connections only to notice a lot of items are missing in all the settings menus. Sometimes a single soft-reset doesn't restore them, but multiple soft resets does. If you don't understand what i mean check out the attached screenshots.
I would post my rom info but the Device Information is missing from System-System! Get what mean?
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I do not know the cause but you are not alone - I have told people to go to a certain Icon to change a setting, only to be told they do not have such an icon - but a day or two later they tell me they did a soft reset and suddenly the icon has appeared!
Mike

HAd the same problem. Was told by the service centre that it could be due to ROM instability....... Anyway did a couple of reflashing of the ROM but still happened. In the end, they changed the unit for me. Now everything is back to normal

I too have had this problem with my latest 8525. Settings just disappear sometimes and only return after a few resets, then disappear soon after. Glad I finally found this post, I thought I was going crazy. Guess I am getting a new phone in a couple of days.

I recently had AT&t replace my 8525 because of the afore mentioned settings problem (btw it also reverted back to windows default ringtone no matter what I selected, and I even tried removing TCPMP leaving only WMP)....
AT&T sent me another new phone,
I install my usual 3RD party apps and tweaks.......
SPB: Pocket plus v3 then v4, diary, time, weather, insight, tips and tricks
TCPMP and flash plugin
Opera mini with JBED midlet manager
MISC themes, skins, and icons
Live Search
sirius WM5
device lock and sleuth's PTT fix
Soft key applet
PHM w/ in-call slider volume hack, and maybe one other... I can't recall
I THINK THATS IT...
STILLL THE SAME PROBLEM(S)!
What the hell is happening w/these disappearing settings and default ringtone?
I can only return this damn phone and get a free one until January under my warranty(which is worth every penny so far, if only for all the scratches).
My original Cingular branded (original ROM) phone had no such issues.
HELP ME, OBI WAN XDA!

I think this has happened to other Windows Mobile phone users as well. I have the original rom for my Kaiser and it has happened to me. I freaked out the first time I saw it happen. At first I thought it only occurred when I did a soft reset without a power source (USB or AC), but now I realize it can happen either way. It just happens more frequently when my Kaiser isn't plugged in. The weird thing is I didn't start noticing it until about 2 months after purchasing my phone. I only started noticing it when I attempted to set up my internet connection. Hopefully someone can pinpoint the cause.

It's happening to me to from time to time, the entire settings menu goes missing. (I'm on a TyTN with official wm6).

ameo freeze every day serveral times

Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks

tvrman said:
Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks
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Hi tvrman.
For starters, install Sprite backup (on one of the CD's you got with the Ameo). This will eradicate the need for a full install after a hard reset in the future!
I suggest you do a full hard reset anyway then install Sprite Backup utility.
Only put back your essential apps one by one with 1/2 a days gap between each installation and test the turn off turn on function.
Be sure to use the supplied X-Button application to ensure you properly clode apps down after you're finished with them....or use Wisbar Advance 2, which will do it for you....except for Active Sync (this will always remain active unless shut down manually in memory menu).
I have not once suffered the problem you have in over a months use of the Ameo....might be a faulty unit or a buggy ROM. What version ROM are you using?
Anyway, if all goes well over the next 3 days, do a full backup and save a copy to your storage card or micro drive and be sure to copy a copy over to your PC...that should future peoof you having to do a full install again in the future. And be sure only to back up, if you have no problems with the device and the problems you mentioned earlier. Otherwise you will allways restore the bugs in the device after a hard reset.
Hope this helps. keep us updated on how you get on.

Mackaby007
thanks for you professional answer, i was not aware that spd backup
was on the cd which was delivered at the ameo.
Well yesterday i found out that one of the programs (profimail)
which i'm using serveral times a day for my mail, that this is the problem
I found out that yesterday i didn't use profimail but the built in mail the
whole day and the ameo did not freeze at all the whole day
tried to turn it off an on the whole day and no problems at all,
yesterday late i start profimail and check serveral mails, i close profimail
and turn the device off, later turn it on and a black screen it would not
turn on
After soft reset everthing works.
So i will check today again without using profimail and see what's happends
again.
i'll let you know....

hi,
I had the same problem.
My solution was to format the mini-sd card.
So what i did:
1. copied all data on de minisd in a cardreader to a directory on pc
2. Formatted (not quick) the minisd
3. Copied all data back to the minisd.

All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
Anyone else find this? Shame as it is the program I like the most
Robert

tvrman said:
Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks
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Have you got a password to lock your phone try removing that see if it still locks , i was having the same issue

Mrsums said:
All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
Anyone else find this? Shame as it is the program I like the most
Robert
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No such issue here! WA2 runs like a dream on my Ameo...even better than it did on my Hermes or Prophet! I'm using the 2.8.0.2 version of WA2 without WAD.

WA2 + WAD
Yes, in my case it was also WA2. I made my own skin and all work fine. But in time I got more lock-ups. So I decided to reinstall everything. Then things went wrong. That day I have installed everything 6 times. Every time I had lock-ups when I pushed the power button and activated it again. But after disabeling WA I had no troubles anymore. The last production and beta version have the same problems. At this point I have to advice not to use WA2. I did not examine every feature of WA2. So there can be one feature that caused the problem. I made my own iPhone landscape skin and I was very pleased. Could somebody try this skin to see if it freezes their device?

skin
iPhone skin ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Software/iPhone.rar
I use a lot of apps. I also use the following plugins on WAD:
SPB Diary
Profiles for Windows Mobile
Windows Life Messenger

QAN said:
Yes, in my case it was also WA2. I made my own skin and all work fine. But in time I got more lock-ups. So I decided to reinstall everything. Then things went wrong. That day I have installed everything 6 times. Every time I had lock-ups when I pushed the power button and activated it again. But after disabeling WA I had no troubles anymore. The last production and beta version have the same problems. At this point I have to advice not to use WA2. I did not examine every feature of WA2. So there can be one feature that caused the problem. I made my own iPhone landscape skin and I was very pleased. Could somebody try this skin to see if it freezes their device?
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I'll give the skin a test run in an hour, but I refuse to use plug-ins again. They have always caused me problems, but WA2 never has. What version were you running?

Tried the i-phone skin and have experienced no issues whatsoever.
Maybe the Problem is WAD and your plug-ins.

WAD keep on giving problems like this...it's a sin for such an interesting application...here it is because I gave up to use it.

Mrsums said:
All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
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I did some searching and found some suggestions it might be the skin I was using. I changed the skin and no more freezing.
Robert

trayap.exe
Since I removed the trayap.exe from the init part of the registry I did not have any freezing anymore. I will try WA2 again to see if this solves my problem.
By the way, I am using the latest beta's of WA2 and WAD

hi all
i find that if i use the off button to turn off the backlight whilst media player is running it jams the machine, requiring a reboot. i know that i can usethe light button on the keyboard but i sometimes forget that media player is running (ie. paused).

I have the same freezing problem now after a few weeks of usage.
The device was running very nicely but now, without installing anything further or adding anything to the device, it freezes randomly.
It likes to freeze when the backlight goes off, while I play MP3 files or have a phone conversation using bluetooth.
In the past 4 days I have softreset the device no less than 81 times.
I suspect the Microdrive is to blame. Is it sensitive to movement?
I will remove all my software and other files from the microdrive and see if things improve.
In the mean time, has anyone else experienced random and frequent freezing?
Oh, I have the Dopod U1000 branded device with the latest firmware.

ok, I had it with this. 16 more soft resets within 4 hours.
I hard reset the device. So far I see no random freezing, but I didn't install anything extra yet except ozVGA and VJBigPhone. And both of them on the internal memory, so nothing on the microdrive.

HTC HD - Settings freezing my phone :(

Hi,
This is my first post here and obviously it's a problem related issue.
I have my HTC TOUCH HD, for about 1 week now.
Everything worked great, until yesterday, when i tried to install the following:
- installed the HTC Hotfix for responsivness, seemed to work fine.
- than i wanted my phoen call to be announced with voice, so i tried to findVoiceCommand (cracked, shame on me)
- downloaded something from this forum, that was posted on rapid share.
Oh Joy and than the problems started:
- It gave an error when installing
- than o n reboot, it toook waaay to long to boot up.
- than i tried to go into the settings to remove it.
Now, EVERYTIME i try to enter the settings, it just freezes, i can not access anyting any more, not even the upper power button, only taking out the battery will work.
Rebooting, i used total commander (thank God i had it installed before) to delete the startup link for voice commander and the entiere voice commander folder.
Now, unfortunate this did not do the trick.
Accessing the settings button will still freeze my HD (
I am very very very frustrated, do not know how to restore it to previous state. Pretty please someone can guide me what to do ?
Thank you in Advance.
ps: everything else seems to work fine, though

Do you think hard reset is the best way??

Yes, unfortunate, this was my only solution.
After digging for more than 4 hours, sleeping 4 hours, digging more hours, i gave up and did a hard reset.
(i even had to digg that up too )
Now everything is back to normal, BUT my weather application is not updating through GPRS / 3G any more, only through wireless.
There is no option for me to set it through what connection it should connect
(Only in coinnection manager, and there its set fine, i already tried everything, and internet seems to work, just fine)

sneila said:
After digging for more than 4 hours, sleeping 4 hours, digging more hours, i gave up and did a hard reset.
(i even had to digg that up too )
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WIKI nr 32 of this page

Same thing happend to me. I have now managed to get back into my settings. I think there are two ways.
1. Use active sync to remove the program
2. I installed the 1.5 trail version (which doesn't run) but let me back into settings so I could uninstall MSVC and then uninstall the trail.
start up still seems a bit slow and the first time you press settings it is a little slow going in but after the first time it is fine.
The better option might be a hard reset but it isn't one for me at the moment as I have far to much stuff to re-install and setup. I really want MS voice commander but I am to scared to try and install any versions

sound like the program had a virus maybe

go to startup in windows explorer and remove the shortcut related to it. this will solve the problem.

Damn stop listening to people that quickly tell you to hard reset.
I had a similar problem in which i couldn't access Settings to remove the program that was causing it.
I connected the phone to ActiveSync and you can easily the program from there. Problem solved.

Another way to uninstall would be to launch the CAB file again (the one with the "bad" program). You will asked if you should remove the old version first, say yes, then cancel installation when it asks where to save the new version. Together with a soft-reset thereafter, in most cases it should work out ...