Forumers,
I can't delete or move to archieve the sms at Inbox. I tried soft reset but it wont disappear. Tried to send it so it will go to Sent Items but still wont budge. The receipient of the undeleted sms receives nothing!
Please, help. It is annoying.
If you post to the forum, maybe you should articulate a bit more on what the problem truly is. What you wrote makes absolutely no sense (at least to me anyway).
Please describe the problem in a bit more detail.
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"I can't delete or move to archieve the sms at Inbox."
If you post to the forum, maybe you should articulate a bit more on what the problem truly is. What you wrote makes absolutely no sense (at least to me anyway).
Please describe the problem in a bit more detail.
This has almost no information:
"I can't delete or move to archieve the sms at Inbox."
ppc4 said:
If you post to the forum, maybe you should articulate a bit more on what the problem truly is. What you wrote makes absolutely no sense (at least to me anyway).
Please describe the problem in a bit more detail.
This has almost no information:
"I can't delete or move to archieve the sms at Inbox."
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Sorry for that ppc4,
I forgot to tell you that our country (Philippines) is a "Text Messaging Country" where most people communicate by Text instead of a call (Speak by phone). Text Messaging is technically called the "Short Messages" or SMS for brevity. While "Multimedia Messages" are called MMS for brevity.
Now here we go with the problem:
Text Messages (SMS for brevity) are automatically saved at the folder called Inbox of a Program called Messaging (with an envelpe logo). You can delete these SMS or saved them in the archieve folder. The problem is that i can not delete those SMS. I can't even move them to another folder which is, normally, not a problem.
We usually delete the SMS when it takes too much space in the memory or folder. In my case, i don't delete but move the SMS in the archieve folder for future reference.
Now, how can i delete them? Resgistry Tweak or something?
Please help.
PS. I hope these clears the doubts. If it does not, then i can't help it anymore.
hey emil:
I've experienced this before I think it happens when the messaging database is corrupted or something to that effect. Only happened once and I haven't been able to replicate it.
Try smsbackup v1.2 it's freeware and can backup messages to your storage card. then do the hard reset and fresh install. I know it's kinda brute force but I'm sure this will clear it up.
Thanks for the clarification on the problem.
I agree that the mail db's have become corrupt. Follow the suggestion of backing up all the sms messages but before you do a hard reset, try this little attached program first to clean up the mail databases. Sprite software originally wrote it to clean up a problem where the deleted items folder showed a count of messages but there was nothing there to even delete. It should take care of your problem without having to do a hard reset and reinstall. Just make sure you save all those messages first.
ppc4,
Thank you for this reply.
I will try tommorow and post the result for everyone to know.
More power man.
I've used it before. Be forewarned that any accounts that you have created on your ppc will be deleted. After the program is run, only the default email accounts will remain intact (ie. sms, mms, outlook). Any pop or exchange accounts that you created will go away and will have to be recreated.
It's a whole lot easier than doing a hard reset though!
ppc4 said:
I've used it before. Be forewarned that any accounts that you have created on your ppc will be deleted. After the program is run, only the default email accounts will remain intact (ie. sms, mms, outlook). Any pop or exchange accounts that you created will go away and will have to be recreated.
It's a whole lot easier than doing a hard reset though!
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Your warning was noted when cleaning. Thanks.
But the problem is when i tried to "restore" the Text Messages from "backup" through Sprite Backup, all Text Messages that were restored are corrupted (they can't be read anymore). Have you encounterred the same problem?
Your prompt reply is highly appreciated.
Haven't seen that problem but I don't keep sms messages. I know the mail db's on the ppc get messed up from time to time and I've learned to not really trust them when it comes to saving actual messgaes.
Did you try that smsbackup instead of Sprite to try and get the messages saved off somewhere? You may also want to try looking for a program that can read the databases on the ppc to see if they can parse the messages out again.
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In the Messaging app, the "Deleted Items" folder of my Text Messages has (10) after its name in the Show menu to indicate that there are 10 unread items in the folder. When I open the folder, there are no messages there, although at the bottom of the screen it sais " Text Messages 0 Items, 10 Unread". Whatever I try, I cannot clear that and make that 0 Items, 0 Unread, like it should show, since the folder is empty.
I tried the tools-> Empty Deleted Items option, but the problem remains. Does anyone know how to get rid of the message that there are 10 unread messages in th folder, although it is actually empty?
Thanks.
Do you use Sprite Backup? Sometimes a restore can cause that to happen. They have a utility that worked for me:
http://spritesoftware.crmdesk.com/a...il.zip&search=Search&area=0&criteria=0&sort=0
Thanks the link you suggested worked, the count is now 0 like it should be. It even worked too good, it also erased my email and mms accounts, which I now cannot get to work again... Well, just have to install them again I guess, at least that annoying faulty sms count is gone now.
Glad it worked. The included .txt file does say that it will wipe everything clean and to be sure you're backed up with whatever's needed.
Hope you're back up and running.
Yeah, I read the .txt file. The app itself showed what items would be deleted, but never mentioned that it would delete all the mail settings and accounts as well. As it turns out, I couldn't get my MMS composer to work after I ran the program, so I hard reset the device and runned my backup on it. Now my MMS composer is back, my mail accounts and settings are back, but the annoying corrupt sms count is back as well off course. I plan to hard reset and reinstall all my apps manually anyway, since I am having more trouble at the farm, so I will then as a side benefit also be rid of the corrupt sms counts. But thanks anyway for your help.
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Yeah, I read the .txt file. The app itself showed what items would be deleted, but never mentioned that it would delete all the mail settings and accounts as well. As it turns out, I couldn't get my MMS composer to work after I ran the program, so I hard reset the device and runned my backup on it. Now my MMS composer is back, my mail accounts and settings are back, but the annoying corrupt sms count is back as well off course. I plan to hard reset and reinstall all my apps manually anyway, since I am having more trouble at the farm, so I will then as a side benefit also be rid of the corrupt sms counts. But thanks anyway for your help.
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I have the same problem after apply the patch of the Sprite. I make a hard reset but when I restaure again I disable 2 directory UAContents and folder of MMS. Now it works perfectly
That sounds as the thing I have been looking for. How did you disable the folders in your restore? When I restore, I cannot disable any folders, Sprite just puts back all my apps, folders, settings etc. Can you tell me how exactly did you leave out those folders? Should I do this when making a back up ( thereby losing the folders after the hard reset) or when restoring ( can you show me how to leave them out when restoring?). Can you tell me where the folders are located on my Compact?
It's necessary to exit of elementary mode. You can find it in Option. I don't arrive to understand in English, look here and here
Ok, thanks! I did the restore from my desktop PC, but I see that from my SD card I can choose to leave some folders out of the restore. Thanks for your help!
After applying the patch, when MMS composer dissapeares, you can install it again from Extended ROM. For me it was OK.
P/S/ To make ExtROM visible run LoadVDisc program from Windows folder
Firstly, I did a search and this issue was briefly touched on, but no resolve was given. I receive a new text message, I go into my inbox it says 0 items 1 new. This has been going on for a week. Now I have missed 11 text messages. My inbox and today screen say 0 items 11new. Any way to find these messages and to repair so this does not continue?
Thanks
Help I can't retrieve my text messages... now there is 13.
nerdgurl, kindly send a list of all 3rd party programs installed.
Here is the list:
Total Commander, Sygic Mobile Contacts, Pocket Max PhoneAlarm,
AE Button Plus, SetAsRingTone, ME PhonePlus, SPB PocketPlus, Sprite Backup.
It was working fine until last week, when I did a full restore, but I do have the newest Sprite Backup so there should have been no conflicts, but I don't know.
Is there any way to retreive them with another messaging software?
Thank you so much, I'm getting desperate
Are you going to the correct inbox? There are several inboxes: MMS, Outlook E-Mail, SMS...
Restoring backups screws up inboxes. Sprite's the closest thing to a proper backup app but still not perfect.
Yes, I'm going to the correct inbox, as for Sprite perhaps I am unable to save my old messages but I can't even receive new ones. If I knew how to do a screen capture, I would post a picture of this bizzare behavior.
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Restoring backups screws up inboxes. Sprite's the closest thing to a proper backup app but still not perfect.
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Nah, I would suggest SPb Clone, lotsa issues with Sprite :>
Is there any remedy for this, to retrieve my older messages or to stop this from occuring with new incoming messages?
Nerdgurl said:
Is there any remedt for this, to retrieve my older messages or to stop this from occuring with new incoming messages?
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There is a tool to backup messages. I have not yet tried it myself. I'm just going to post a link to it since after install you need to put in a code at their website in order for software to be able to run. Hope it helps.
http://pdafresh.freeweb.hu/communications/sms/app_smsbackup.htm (Backs up only messages)
Developer site: http://www.zedsoft.net/smsbackup/
http://pdafresh.freeweb.hu/communications/sms/app_allexport.htm (Exports messages AND Outlook data)
UPDATE: Export function works fine. Restore will test after a HR. Backup worx.
Developer site: http://www.zedsoft.net/allexport/
Hope it worx 4 u
OH I messed it up good! It says Message Backup successfull (0 Messages), then I tried to restore the messages and it would state: Message restore successfull (0 Messages). What have I done?
Nerdgurl,
Your sms database seems to be corrupt. Use the attached tool to delete all mail/sms databases. Dont forget to backup since it destroys all SMS, mail & account info. I had a similar prob & resolved.
Cheers...
You can try the soft from Jeyo to see, if it can salvage your messages. But when all is said and done, you will HAVE to do a hard reset, to get things running again. With a bit of luck you can reinstall everything but the messages, otherwise a full reinstall is needed.
Also, you may wanna try visiting www.Sunnysoft.cz for Backup Manager. A very nice alternative to Sprite, which has way too many unsolved bugs. I fully agree with dmmh on that...
The notification said I had new sms's.
The inbox status line says: Text Messages 0 items, 3 Unread.
Anybody some smart ideas?
mambaum said:
The notification said I had new sms's.
The inbox status line says: Text Messages 0 items, 3 Unread.
Anybody some smart ideas?
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Had the same problem, Like it or not, it was caused by Spritebackup (and other backup programs do the same thing). Are you using some backup software on your device? If so that might be the cause. These programs have trouble with the databases (when restoring / patching the backup data into the database during a restore) and sometimes (or even pretty often) screw up the databases. There is a "CleanMail.exe" tool available from Sprite backup. I'll attach it to this post but you should go to their website to read about it if you are inclined to use it. It will wipe all the mail databases completely. Do a backup before using it, just in case the backup programs were not the cause of the problem.
If the problem persists there is no way around a hard reset. Had at one time lost my SMS folder altogether and couldn't get the registry fixed, so hardreset it was for me. Luckily I keep my daily backup files for 21 days, so I found a older backup with the reg intact.
Hope it helps.
CleanMail removed MMS
Hello
I tried the CleanMail util.
After running CleanMail util, I can send an MMS to myself,
but if try to receive it, it only contains an SMS...the picture is gone.
After syncing with outlook, only have 2 message boxes:
-mail
-sms
These two seam to work, now....I can receive sms'es again.
The mms box has disappeared.
Another solution
Another solution is posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=278434#278434
All of my text messages are very very important and personal to me. I carefully saved every single of them into my email and computer so I won't lost a "single" of them. That is the reason why I went for android platform because there is an application (My Backup Pro) that helps me to back up all the important texts I have with my family and my wife. The disaster struck when i upgraded my android phone to the Nexus One from the G1. The new message app in the nexus one has a "Delete old messages" option on the default which I completely acknowledged nothing about it thus I did not disable that option, so it started to delete all my messages when they reached to the certain amount number of text messages. When i noticed i was in a big shocked stage, I am extremely unhappy. I called Tmobile to see if they can send me a copy of all the contents of the texts that were deleted, they offered no help for that sort of request neither Nexus One Customer Support Department can do anything about it. To my knowledge, when a data is being "deleted", it's not really gone forever instead it is being compressed to a smaller value for saving space purpose or it's lying somewhere inside the flash memory and waiting for the new data to overwrite it. I did spend weeks of research and calling for help but I could not find any help. If any developer or anyone could help me to recover the deleted text messages in my Nexus One, I would be really happy and greatly appreciate your help. I will pay you a big reward, the reward is your choice. Anything you want. Thank you very very much for your help. My phone is not rooted yet and I haven't done the hard reset. So I guess the data is still in the flash memory, we just need to get them out.
So you went for android platform because of My Backup Pro but you didn't make any backup with it before upgrading to the N1?
Anyway.. I don't think deleted SMS messages will be recoverable... sorry
I've never seen anyone even want to accomplish this goal.. or cared about their texts in such way..
I dont know for sure, but I would assume this is something you wont be able to do.. hope you find a way I guess.
unfortunately the messages do not get saved on the sd card but rather on the phone. There does exist software that recovers lost data from Hard drives, sd cards, etc. But the messages were deleted from the phone itself and its hard to say this but you wont be able to recover it! just remember to always backup for next time and make sure you get rid of the "delete all messages" and dont forget that after a large number of text, they seem to all get deleted at once even if you dont have that option selected. it has happened to me after about 4000 texts! and not once but three times already. thats why i always backup and if i ever lose any text it will be under 100's. and also remeber to backup the backups of Backup Pro, LOL! Sd cards die as well, so you never know! so try saving a copy to your pc and by the way if your text are that imprtant then remeber that hard drives from PC'S die as well and you never know either, so backup as well and Remeber lol that you can burn it onto a cd every once in a while!
Good Luck
Yeah I hate to say you are s.o.l. with the old messages. all you can do is look how to prevent this in the future. 1. use Google voice or 2. download the sms2email app
I delete my text messages on a daily basis. I just have no use for them after I read them once. This seems important to you, so I do hope you find a way of recovering them. Good luck!
wow what kind of messages have you received that you want them back so bad?
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wow what kind of messages have you received that you want them back so bad?
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Naughty ones.
If you have the data backed up with mybackup pro, u can inspect the files in: /sdcard/rerware/MyBackup/
Followed by whatever name u gave em. you can restore it from there too. i think they're stored in sqlite3 but, i tried restoring some data i had backed up to sqlite3 and it couldn't re-create the db cuz it was kinda encrypted.
hope that helps. maybe u could try emailing the dev of MyBackup Pro?
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If you backup your msgs into email, why did you not use "SMS Backup" (by Christopher Studer) instead or a similar tool which does real-time backup? It adds your message proactively into gmail under a certain label. That is time saved for you.
Also, as others have pointed out, you can not recover your messages, unless you had an auto-backup of that saved to your SD card. In that case, even if your SD card was wiped or formatted, you could essentially perform a recovery using a disk recovery application.
Thank you very much for all the comments. I guess there is no help. I will try to call Tmobile again to see if they can send me contents of the the text messages.
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Thank you very much for all the comments. I guess there is no help. I will try to call Tmobile again to see if they can send me contents of the the text messages.
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T-Mobile cannot send you the contents of the text messages, they do not open up and read your texts, nor do they save that burst of data, that would be an insane amount of data to save, as well probably an illegal invasion of privacy.
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Thank you very much for all the comments. I guess there is no help. I will try to call Tmobile again to see if they can send me contents of the the text messages.
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Yeah, Tmobile is of no help! They cannot look at your text messages as they will be violating your rights! neither would they backup something that they have no use for!
You should really look into Google Voice or something similar in the future. That way all of your text messages are available online at all times - like email. Very, very useful.
I have been saved so many times by that service.
texts are saved i think for a certain amount of time on servers. Look at the Kwame Kilpatrick case in Detroit for example. In order to get them though you would need a search warrant to gain access to those files.
Tmobile say they would but only if the police or law enforcement involve in order for them to pull out the contents, in this case i dont know what to do. The only way get the contents back is to access to my wife iphone but the problem is her iphone also has the auto delete old sms. I did lots of researches on recovering the deleted sms on iphone and there are a few methods but im not certain because im not a tech savvy. So i have her iphone in hand and it has not been synced for months. Is there a possiblility to recover the conversations i had with her that are also had been deleted in her iphone? The reason i want get those conversations back because they involve in our large business deals. Please help.
Hey, I have PM'd you some info to help you retrieve txt msgs of an
iphone...
hope it works...
I also archive every text message. To make sure that I won't lose them, I backup them on WaveSecure (free for Android until March 31!!) and SMS Backup & Restore app. Both of them can be found on the Market. WaveSecure is an anti-theft app that also backups SMS, call logs, and files on their servers. SMS Backup & Restore (and Call Logs Backups & Restore by the same developer) saves an XML file to your SD card. You can easily email the XML to yourself.
If you were using GOOGLE VOICE on your GOOGLE Android phone there would be no issue.
aad4321 said:
its ok, i lost my sextmessages one time too
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WHOA!!!
hahahhaa, i lost a few also while trying different ROMs, but we don't go admitting to them! hahahaa.
I sincerely hope that the original poster, phuthanvinh, can find a solution for this with T-Mobile.
It seems pretty lame that they would offer to fix this IF law enforcement was involved.
Hi guys,
I've searched the forum but couldn't find an answer so here goes...
In the HTC (SMS) messaging app (conversation mode) I am getting two entries for every person. Pressing either one, for the same person, brings up exactly the same messages. I've had a look in traditional mode and the messages themselves are not duplicated, neither are they when displayed in the Sense UI thingy!
I'm hoping this is just going to be some sort of database/text/xml file problem which if deleted will be re-built but things are never that simple!
I'd prefer an answer that doesn't involve a hard-reset as there are LOTS of text messages I'd rather keep (and again, the messages themselves are not duplicated, just their initial thread display entry in conversation mode)
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Check your contacts and see if they are not duplicated...
Have you used PIM backup? I get the problem when restoring messages from that?
Hi guys,
Thanks for your replies.
@DeadVirus: I've just checked my contacts and there are no duplicates on my phone and my SIM has no contacts on it.
@corny2007: I haven't used any kind of PIM backup software.
However, rather oddly, the problem has sort of fixed itself. By "sort of" I mean everything has returned to normal for all except one thread.Typically it's the one thread that probably gets used more than any other (you guessed it... its for a woman! ) and its probably the one that I least want to lose texts from!
I'm wondering if this is being caused by duplicate texts on the phone and SIM. Is there any software that allows the deleting of text messages on a SIM?
Once again, thanks for your help, any further assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Okay, so I've found a "fix" for the one remaining duplicated thread: Delete all the messages and then undelete them one-by-one (which is no small task, given there is probably about 200 messages!).
Anyways, its fixed now. Thanks guys for your help.